April 2006 AVD plus transcipt Fox

From Heli

Heli Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:00 pm
The Lineup Apr 22 TRANSCRIPTNOT VERBATIM NOT COMPLETE Kimberly Guilfoyle: New suspect has been moved, just hours ago GVC was transferred from Noord to ... we don't know if he's being questioned or readied for release. We went straight to the scene and dug up everything we could on GVC. We have exclusive never seen before photos of JvdS the best investigative reporter in Aruba is on the phone with me, Tito Lacle, nobody knows the story like him. Let's cut right to the chase. Tell me about GVC
Tito: Depends what you want to hear, he's been moved around today He's still at the same jail he's been held for the last couple of days. He left jail couple of times today, no idea why. I spoke to the lawyer, she said they got back from ...she will see him later tonight, she wouldn't say where he'd been
Kim Is his arrest major ...will he be released Tuesday
T: My sources tell me he's no major suspect, just a person detained because he was not co-operating, no major break
K There are two possible arrests as early as next week, are they connected...is this shirt a possible link
Tito; The shirt is outdated from last June, it's not being spoken about, I've been hearing about other arrests as early as next week. Just like Geoffrey they are two people who are not co-operating either these other two
Kim Are these two people who know GVC?
Tito; I wouldn't go as far as saying that, but they do know something or heard something about the case, the info is sketchy. They are not co-operating so they may be arrested K You've talked to DOmpig, anything knew about him?
Tito: He wasn't very happy about the interview you had on the show with Michael, he has not spoken to his son and he has told him not to say anything to the press but to co-operate with police. He was shocked and apologizes to Geoffrey's family
Kim: Just who exactly is the new suspect, what's his connection to Natalee...to aruba for this investigation and some videotape of an interview I had with _______
Kim: Tell me what you know about the van Cromvoirts?
Ricardo: They came to aruba in 1999 and GVC is a kid that seems to have bragged a lot about the case
Kim what's his reputation
Ricardo: I don't know, I don't know him personally, it's like he was bragging about knowing info on the case, he seems to have a drug related charge, he seems to have been fired from the company for behavioural and psychological problems.
Kim: We're here on the beach by the hotels. Who patrols the beach
Ricardo: This area is patrolled by the Visiblity Team which is made of of people from the private sector and authorities, it's a joint venture.
Kim: WHo is involved in the private sector?
Ricardo: You have this company VCB directed by van Cromvoirt sr.
Kim Is this area currently patrolled by Visibility Team
Ricardo: Yes, but with change in staffing, seems not staffed with security guards but only police Supposed to be much safer
Kim There was speculation that on May 30, this area was patrolled by the Visibility Team, and GVC was working that assignment
Ricardo:: Not clear if he was working in May of June, attorney of the van Cromvoirts is denying that, there are still questions about his whereabouts on the night in question
K We're in the area past the Marriott, the info we have is they were at the fisherman's hut
Ricardo: Yes, we see here, this could be the fisherman's hut in question, not too sure, this seems like the first hut after the Marriott
K: Could Natalee's body be disposed of in the water, this seems really shallow, I see small boats
Ricardo : If you see those windsurfers they are walking in the water, waist high, it's shallow. You need to know your way around, a big boat would have trouble anchoring in this area ************************************************************* Kim: Mother of JvdS speaks out. no question goes unanswered There's a 19 year old being held GVC, Dutch national, young man tall like Joran, blond, do you know him?
Anita: No, I don't know him, we don't know him Kim: Do you know the family?
Anita: NO, I don't know them. Joran is not a friend to them at all. I don't know if the Kalpoes are friends with him we got lot of phone calls from media etc, the island is small but we work 5 days a week, Joran goes to school , he plays tennis and soccer and after school activities, they didn't go to same school. I understood this boy didn't go to school anymore .
Kim: Did you ask Joran about GVC?
Anita: I asked him he said no, he doesn't know him, he was very surprised. He said "I hope they didn't arrest somebody who had nothing to do with this"
Kim: DO you think they're followng other leads?
Anita; I hope so after 10 months, I hope the investigation will be broader. In the beginning I understood the tunnel vision, Natalee left on her own, she didn't have a buddy, Joran left her there and that was wrong, but so many things could have happened after that. All the gossip, we just don't know, we need facts.
Kim: How do you feel about another family being in the eye of the media with their son arrested?
Anita Terrible, I'm not in a position to call them I don't know them, but I'm a Mom and he has a mother and father, parents are important and it hurts. If he's involved I hope that the truth comes out real fast, if he's not involved I hope he's released fast
Kim: Do you believe Natalee Holloway is alive?
Anita: AFter so many months, I believe for long time Natalee was alive and then somebody said to me this is wishfull thining b/c she should have been coming forward, if she sees this happening, her family suffering, no normal person could do something like that
KIM Or go undetected too for all this time
ANita; I cannot envision something like that, but we don't know. Let's hope the investigation will come to closure
Kim: Do you think it will be solved?
Anita: I hope so
Kim: Do you have any theories?
Anita: SOmetimes of course I lay awake at night and think about her, Natalee please tell me what happpened, I don't know, I really hope it will be solved and we get an explanation for all this and Joran and the Kalpoe brothers will be cleared and it's all over I'm not going to do what most people are doing and think about all kinds of scenarios that might not be true.
Kim PPl are speculating too much you think?
Anita: Too much, way too much, everywhere mistakes have been made but it never happened to Aruba, ppl were so helpful here, ppl were fantastic and if I see all these ppl looking around the wild part of ARuba, looking for Natalee, it's a small community ppl talk, In the beginning there was rumour she was seen around, even the police thought she was alive in the beginning. ************************************************************* Kim: Tell me about Joran, about girls, drugs ....
Anita: Joran never did drugs, he has been tested for that in school and in prison, one of the few that tested clean. We always talk to him about such things, he's a sporter ...he drinks now and then a beer or rum and coke, drinking age is 16 I know all the rumours about going to the casino ... he just started to play that advertised poker game that was all over the island, he got an invitation for that. He was always gentle to girlfriends, he had a long relationship with an aruban girl for 9 months; we see her often, she refers to me as Mom and she is still good friends with Joran. There is a girl from the States coming forward who knows Joran very well, he went to New Jersey and stayed with her family when he went to soccer camp
Kim: ANything where you thought he might be headed down the wrong road did you talk to him about sex education ... He said, very specifically he said that there was a point things were going to another level with Natalee, sexually, he said he didn't have a condom ...
Anita: I have talked to my boys, I have 3 boys, hormones are starting to work, we talk to the kids a lot about that, I said always like if you have sexual activity with a girl, be careful and I want you to wait, we always talk about that. You dont' have like, you can kiss a little bit and Joran knows that and I'm sure that on the beach when you hug a little bit but he didnt have sex with her
Kim: Did you ask him, explicit sexual details, did you ask him if he had sexual relations with her?
Anita: Yes I did. He said NO. I asked him right in the beginning, I asked b/c I wanted to know
Kim: Do you think he'd be afraid to tell you that... that he'd done that, it would be out of character and him misbehaving.
Anita: No, he tells me everything
Kim: If beth came in right now, what would you say to her?
ANita: Hi
Kim: Do you have any hard feelings towards her?
Anita: You know I was raised Roman Catholic, I am not a big person who is very religious but I believe in positive energy I hope she did not lose herself in this, I can see her pain, I know she wants to find out what happened, I would be the same but I would not point to especially one boy for 11 months and call him a rapist and a murderer based on nothing. Kim: Joining us from Birmingham is Beth Twitty, You heard Anita, what do you think?
Beth: What I'm hearing about is what a a fine young man Joran is, I can't help but wonder how that fits into pnly spending the first 10 days washing the car inside and out, cleaning the car with cleaning fluid from the roof to the floor mats, corroborating stories with his father and the other suspects , hiring a team of attorneys, implicating two minority security guards, how does that go with what a good boy she claims he is. I just don't see it Kimberly
Kim: Anything you hear her say that particularly caught your attention? We asked her about the civil lawsuit, she does say she was disappointed Joran lied in the beginning. Anything you heard that contradicts what you experienced with her?
Beth No, really not, just that when we are referring to the citizens early on they were helpful in the beginning, the problem was her son and husband that threw the entire investigation, they threw it into the wrong direction ...it cost Natalee her investigation; Joran and Paul threw it in the wrong direction and everybody knows that....if they'd been men in the beginning and come forward we'd know what happened to Natalee
Kim: How would you describe the relationship between you? Did the relationship between your two families at some point go south?
Beth I don't feel it was ever headed in a parallel direction with them, we knew the facts, we knew these young men were the last to see Natalee and they repeated lies they told officials, they never were parallel, they were never going to be on the same path as our family
Kim: Maybe we'll try to get you back to hear the rest of the interview, I asked her about the time you were together with her about the alleged sexual assault and the civil lawsuit ... I want to talk about the latest developments with this guy GVC I was outside his house the yellow house, what do you think is going to happen with GVC?
Beth I hope something comes out of it. I see where the suspect is acquainted with Steve Croes, I don't know the connection with the other suspects. I feel that Karin Janssen has had a resurgence to get to the bottom of the case. I have to hope and believe they have evidence. I just hope that leads us somewhere
KIM: You have evidence that you've seen, GVC and Steve Croes together. I went to Steve Croes' house and he said he doesn't know this guy, they've heard of him but they're not buddies
Beth I have the photo and I'll send it to you. I'm hearing rumours just as you are that there are arrests forthcoming, I don't know if they are re-arrests or new ones
KIM: Do you think GVC is connected to these other arrests we hear are going to happen next week?
Bet Just don't know, it was such a surprise, going into Easter Sunday, just couldn't have expected this at all. I just don't know what's ahead ************************************************************* Kim: Nadira Ramirez, the mother of Deepak and Satish Kalpoe. How are your sons doing?
Nadira: They're doing ok. Deepak doesn't have a job. Satish is going to school still Last year he failed his class
KIm: For the reason of this case?
Nadira: He had to stay back one more year, and now we're waiting to see if he makes it this year.
Kim What does he hope to do
Nadira: He's studying mathematics, sometimes he wants to be a pilot sometimes medicine, he changes. Deepak wants to do business. I'm still seeing good for them, they are hard working and they are interested in studying and doing exams. Deepak passed his exams and he was trying to go to college in Miami, but he can't go anymore
Kim: So everything is on hold
Nadira: Yes, financially and everything
Kim: Any problems with the boys running around, drinking, problems with girls
Nadira: They go out sometimes on Friday or Saturday, that's it...in Aruba it's only on the weekend and only for hour or two. I used to work until midnight and when I come home they see me
Kim Do you believe your boys will be cleared
Nadira: Yes, 100%
Kim Anita believes your boys are good boys, do you think that Joran is innocent in this case
Nadira: I don't konw Joran, I think I met him once, but I see him as a good kid also *************************************************************Last edited by Heli on Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:49 pm; edited 2 times in total Transcription GoddessJoined: 23 Mar 2006Posts: 11940Location: Puffed Up DimWit