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« Reply #460 on: July 09, 2011, 10:46:28 PM »

TY Sassi, for posting the pics!
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« Reply #461 on: July 09, 2011, 11:09:49 PM »

This is in reply to a BOC poster:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/01/30/fugitive-cop-shooter-david-durhams-house-located-in-new-kyron-horman-search-grid/#comments

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July 9, 2011 at 8:55 pm

Sassi,
Just saw your post. Big Stuff. Ask Neighbor, this guy misrepresented himself as a former PPS principal. Mid-June on this site has a lot of stuff. You are on to the sister I was speaking of in my last sentence. I’ll help, tell me what you need.
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erose: I want to look at Sheryl R Sanchez on DAG's FB. I have a stinking feeling and I think we need to look further.

Those pics of her FB profile vs. the Rodolfo Sanchez FB daughter, look too familiar to me. There is a better pic coming, but it will take a few weeks to get.
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« Reply #462 on: July 10, 2011, 12:31:33 AM »

This is in reply to a BOC poster:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/01/30/fugitive-cop-shooter-david-durhams-house-located-in-new-kyron-horman-search-grid/#comments

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July 9, 2011 at 8:55 pm

Sassi,
Just saw your post. Big Stuff. Ask Neighbor, this guy misrepresented himself as a former PPS principal. Mid-June on this site has a lot of stuff. You are on to the sister I was speaking of in my last sentence. I’ll help, tell me what you need.
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erose: I want to look at Sheryl R Sanchez on DAG's FB. I have a stinking feeling and I think we need to look further.

Those pics of her FB profile vs. the Rodolfo Sanchez FB daughter, look too familiar to me. There is a better pic coming, but it will take a few weeks to get.


I see roads converge!

@Erose, that is not a nursery.  Paul and Bonnie run an adult foster care.  Manta is wrong.
http://www.ourparents.com/oregon/portland/gill_bonnie_a

What other sisters are you referring to?  Gail (x John) in IL or Susan (x Gregory) in N Portland.
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« Reply #463 on: July 10, 2011, 02:27:39 AM »



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Just wanted to drop in and say thanks to everyone for all the sleuthing you are doing, Sassi~you have really done an incredible job in piecing so many things together and I know everyone still thinks about Kyron, prays for him, but I rarely have time to post.....but HUGE thanks to everyone who does and continues to work so hard on this.

WRT the divorce atty fees, that is HUGE and retainers for a divorce case aren't generally near that. Mine was 7,500 and I ended up spending about 35m-40m to settle and protect my son over many yrs, so 100m out of the gate is extremely high IMO.

Second issue is a step parent taking a child to the Dr etc., I was never questioned once taking mine to the Doc, Dentist or therapist.....and twice were emergency issues, one for asthma and one for extremely low heart rate and a migraine (both in an ambulance). Since the boys mom lived far away and ex wasn't home had I not taken them I shudder to think what could have happened. I have never heard of a case where a step couldn't take a child, sans some really severe custodial issues but still don't know of one personally, and my step kids just left this week after a 7 day visit (and I divorced their dad 8 yrs ago) so I guess they knew I loved them as my own.......not all step parents are bad, just like not all bio parents are good. Anyway thanks again to everyone and Kyron, we haven't forgotten you lil frog man.
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« Reply #464 on: July 10, 2011, 03:03:14 AM »



Re the "SAR" person.  I have read on line that some of the claims he made of finding people were false.  When a child goes missing, there are so many kooks out there that are trying to "help".  So  many.

I am getting a feeling that some of the people commenting are happy that this investigation has gone nowhere. I also sense passive agressive remarks about Desiree.



   

Then you are obviously reading anyone's comments WAY wrong..I can't think of anyone who has dedicated a yr+ time here on SM, BOC and on their own ripping this case up/down/sideways and backwards as HAPPY it has gone nowhere, and to say anything like that HK is a slap in the face to those who work so hard and are advocates of missing children....WOW
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« Reply #465 on: July 10, 2011, 10:27:27 AM »

I forgot to add this to my earlier post. I know BOC posters are aware of it, but I don't think it was posted on SM.

Carrie Lee Gill, wife of David James Lee Gill, was arrested the morning that Kyron went missing, on 10 counts of Tampering with drugs.

http://www.pdxmugshots.com/mug/carrie-lee-gill


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« Reply #466 on: July 10, 2011, 03:36:33 PM »

 

Island Monkey!  I have missed you!  It's great to see you back on the forum again, however briefly!

We parents are so busy, but truly do have our priorities straight in that regard.  Thanks for popping and and sharing your astute insights!  Smile
Cheers,

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an angelic monkey

Just wanted to drop in and say thanks to everyone for all the sleuthing you are doing, Sassi~you have really done an incredible job in piecing so many things together and I know everyone still thinks about Kyron, prays for him, but I rarely have time to post.....but HUGE thanks to everyone who does and continues to work so hard on this.

WRT the divorce atty fees, that is HUGE and retainers for a divorce case aren't generally near that. Mine was 7,500 and I ended up spending about 35m-40m to settle and protect my son over many yrs, so 100m out of the gate is extremely high IMO.

Second issue is a step parent taking a child to the Dr etc., I was never questioned once taking mine to the Doc, Dentist or therapist.....and twice were emergency issues, one for asthma and one for extremely low heart rate and a migraine (both in an ambulance). Since the boys mom lived far away and ex wasn't home had I not taken them I shudder to think what could have happened. I have never heard of a case where a step couldn't take a child, sans some really severe custodial issues but still don't know of one personally, and my step kids just left this week after a 7 day visit (and I divorced their dad 8 yrs ago) so I guess they knew I loved them as my own.......not all step parents are bad, just like not all bio parents are good. Anyway thanks again to everyone and Kyron, we haven't forgotten you lil frog man.
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« Reply #467 on: July 10, 2011, 03:38:42 PM »

 
Sassi!  Wow, you've done it again!  Amazing work, and much to contemplate here... I almost feel like I need a graph or chart or "family tree"-like map thingy to figure it all out! 

Can't thank you enough...

Cheers,

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« Reply #468 on: July 10, 2011, 04:58:11 PM »

::snipping2::
http://my.peoplesmart.com/psp.aspx?_act=peopleResults


THANK YOU.  One remark
Sheryll Sanchez 36

Troutdale, OR
Gresham, OR
Beaverton, OR

Portland, OR  Anthony M Sanchez
Antonio Mark Sanchez SR
Maria Guadalupe Sanchez (The wife of Ubaldo Sanchez?)
Remedios R Sanchez

Could also be a younger Maria Sanchez from Beaverton.

Maria Sanchez, Beaverton
Age: 31
Phone: (503) 626-XXXX
Places Lived: Beaverton, OR; Portland, OR

Friends & Family
Leticia Sanchez Seattle, WA 93
Frank Sanchez Hillsboro, OR 55
Yolanda Sanchez Beaverton, OR 30
Leticia Sanchez Aurora, IL 53
Leticia Sanchez Portland, OR 45
Sheryll Sanchez Gresham, OR 36

see http://www.mylife.com/c-2242087469

Spokeo gives the middle initial G with the same phone exchange 503-626-xxxx (I blanked some):

Maria G Sanchez
Female | Early 30's
Phone: (503) 626-xxxx
Address: xxx SW Murray Blvd
Location: Beaverton, OR 97005

see http://www.spokeo.com/search?q=maria%20sanchez%2C%20beaverton%2C%20or#:2884786811&sst=1
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« Reply #469 on: July 10, 2011, 06:18:11 PM »

::snipping2::
http://my.peoplesmart.com/psp.aspx?_act=peopleResults


THANK YOU.  One remark
Sheryll Sanchez 36

Troutdale, OR
Gresham, OR
Beaverton, OR

Portland, OR  Anthony M Sanchez
Antonio Mark Sanchez SR
Maria Guadalupe Sanchez (The wife of Ubaldo Sanchez?)
Remedios R Sanchez

Could also be a younger Maria Sanchez from Beaverton.

Maria Sanchez, Beaverton
Age: 31
Phone: (503) 626-XXXX
Places Lived: Beaverton, OR; Portland, OR

Friends & Family
Leticia Sanchez Seattle, WA 93
Frank Sanchez Hillsboro, OR 55
Yolanda Sanchez Beaverton, OR 30
Leticia Sanchez Aurora, IL 53
Leticia Sanchez Portland, OR 45
Sheryll Sanchez Gresham, OR 36

see http://www.mylife.com/c-2242087469

Spokeo gives the middle initial G with the same phone exchange 503-626-xxxx (I blanked some):

Maria G Sanchez
Female | Early 30's
Phone: (503) 626-xxxx
Address: xxx SW Murray Blvd
Location: Beaverton, OR 97005

see http://www.spokeo.com/search?q=maria%20sanchez%2C%20beaverton%2C%20or#:2884786811&sst=1

Thanks! I wanted to make sure. I noticed that "Leticia" name keeps popping up when I look into the Sanchez'. "Leticia" doesn't seem to be a common name within the Hispanic community.

Also, you have to make sure the middle name is Guadalupe. The middle letter  "G" could be many things. It could mean " Gatorade" for all I know. j/k with ya. 

I don't like to go by initials because there can be a wide variety of people with those same names.
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« Reply #470 on: July 10, 2011, 06:28:51 PM »

I'm not trying to make this fit, I'm trying to see if it does fit.

The MGS is most likely NOT the US fit. What about the Sanchez Estrada names that pop up? Do they pan out?

Also, we need to look at the "Andrade" people related to the Gills. In order to look at some of them, you have to search 'International' Yahoo/Google sites. You'll also have to use a translator site to read it though.

You would be surprised how many International sites I looked at and Googled the word "Kyron Horman" and found hits. Orphanages in those countries are also a good place to look.

neighbor, have you looked at airports close to La Pine by any chance?
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« Reply #471 on: July 10, 2011, 08:34:26 PM »

BOC post:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/01/30/fugitive-cop-shooter-david-durhams-house-located-in-new-kyron-horman-search-grid/#comments

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July 10, 2011 at 6:41 pm

RE: SM Posts
Just a reminder that Leticia Sanchez is an aka for RS’s brother Jaime.

http://www.peoplesmart.com/psp.aspx?_act=results

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erose: Sorry I haven't seen that, on that people search engine, or any other. Could you copy/paste results please?

I'm tired of these damn Sanchez names. I guess it's better than the name Jones though. 
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« Reply #472 on: July 10, 2011, 09:59:44 PM »

BOC post:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/01/30/fugitive-cop-shooter-david-durhams-house-located-in-new-kyron-horman-search-grid/#comments

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July 10, 2011 at 8:16 pm

Somehow the Gills of La Pine are tied into the Haugen name.

http://www.veromi.com/Search.aspx?sType=name&db=&fn=&mn=&ln=haugen&city=la+pine&state=OR&dobmm=&dobdd=&doby=

Left field?

http://www.bendbulletin.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110709/NEWS0107/107090340/1009/NEWS01&nav_category=NEWS01

Haugen’s execution, originally scheduled for Aug. 16, has been postponed indefinitely.

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I don't think it's left field. If you remove the small stuff, you could lose the information to the large stuff. You should follow it. Check and double check everything, and most of all, don't make assumptions.

Btw, I surely appreciate and admire your work erose. 


I looked up airports close to La Pine. There is a small air field a little over 12 miles from there.

http://www.us-city-home.com/oregon/la-pine/airports.html

Sunriver Airport

Sunriver, OR: Deschutes County
12.4 miles from La Pine, Oregon
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« Reply #473 on: July 10, 2011, 10:01:07 PM »

One other thing. I checked to see if perhaps the Gills were renting the cabin, and I didn't see any signs that they were. At least publicly.
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« Reply #474 on: July 11, 2011, 02:05:07 PM »

BOC post:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/01/30/fugitive-cop-shooter-david-durhams-house-located-in-new-kyron-horman-search-grid/#comments

erose says:
July 10, 2011 at 6:41 pm

RE: SM Posts
Just a reminder that Leticia Sanchez is an aka for RS’s brother Jaime.

http://www.peoplesmart.com/psp.aspx?_act=results

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erose: Sorry I haven't seen that, on that people search engine, or any other. Could you copy/paste results please?

I'm tired of these damn Sanchez names. I guess it's better than the name Jones though. 

Searching peoplesmart for last name sanchez-estrada in OR yields:

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Leticia Sanchez

AKA:
Estrada Jaime Sanchez
Estrada Jamie Sanchez
Estrada J Sanchez
Estrada L Sanchez
Leticia Sanchezestrada
Leticia S Estrada

places:
Portland, OR
Milwaukie, OR
Oregon City, OR

relatives:
Arturo C Sanchez

"Leticia" could be the 2nd given name.
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« Reply #475 on: July 11, 2011, 05:28:46 PM »

After writing this post, with much help, I think that there is a possibility that Kyron is alive. Also I think there is a very LARGE possibility that the Chicago FB Sanchez' that I posted on SM, was a set up. Just throwing this out there.

Sassi-

First of all, thank you for all of your hard work on this and all of your other research you have done.  I have always tried to remain hopeful that Kyron is alive (I admit I've had many low moments where it just doesn't seem likely). 

Is DAG in the group photo in your post and/or do you have any clear pictures of DAG?

 ::snipping2::
David Owen Gill's pic too:



Does anybody see a resemblance to the Fanno Creek sketch?
http://www.oregonlive.com/beaverton/index.ssf/2010/08/beaverton_police_release_sketch_of_suspect_in_sexual_assault_at_fanno_creek_park.html
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« Reply #476 on: July 11, 2011, 06:38:03 PM »

BOC post:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/01/30/fugitive-cop-shooter-david-durhams-house-located-in-new-kyron-horman-search-grid/#comments

erose says:
July 10, 2011 at 6:41 pm

RE: SM Posts
Just a reminder that Leticia Sanchez is an aka for RS’s brother Jaime.

http://www.peoplesmart.com/psp.aspx?_act=results

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erose: Sorry I haven't seen that, on that people search engine, or any other. Could you copy/paste results please?

I'm tired of these damn Sanchez names. I guess it's better than the name Jones though. 

Searching peoplesmart for last name sanchez-estrada in OR yields:

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Leticia Sanchez

AKA:
Estrada Jaime Sanchez
Estrada Jamie Sanchez
Estrada J Sanchez
Estrada L Sanchez
Leticia Sanchezestrada
Leticia S Estrada

places:
Portland, OR
Milwaukie, OR
Oregon City, OR

relatives:
Arturo C Sanchez

"Leticia" could be the 2nd given name.

Thanks. Now I see it. WTH are they doing? I just don't get it. I'm sick of these people.
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« Reply #477 on: July 11, 2011, 06:39:01 PM »

After writing this post, with much help, I think that there is a possibility that Kyron is alive. Also I think there is a very LARGE possibility that the Chicago FB Sanchez' that I posted on SM, was a set up. Just throwing this out there.

Sassi-

First of all, thank you for all of your hard work on this and all of your other research you have done.  I have always tried to remain hopeful that Kyron is alive (I admit I've had many low moments where it just doesn't seem likely). 

Is DAG in the group photo in your post and/or do you have any clear pictures of DAG?

 ::snipping2::
David Owen Gill's pic too:



Does anybody see a resemblance to the Fanno Creek sketch?
http://www.oregonlive.com/beaverton/index.ssf/2010/08/beaverton_police_release_sketch_of_suspect_in_sexual_assault_at_fanno_creek_park.html


Hmmm. I don't see it. Maybe because the glasses are different?
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« Reply #478 on: July 11, 2011, 06:40:08 PM »

Why are we getting in the same box? I went way past the quote line.
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« Reply #479 on: July 11, 2011, 08:39:57 PM »

BOC post:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/01/30/fugitive-cop-shooter-david-durhams-house-located-in-new-kyron-horman-search-grid/#comments

erose says:
July 10, 2011 at 6:41 pm

RE: SM Posts
Just a reminder that Leticia Sanchez is an aka for RS’s brother Jaime.

http://www.peoplesmart.com/psp.aspx?_act=results

__________________________

erose: Sorry I haven't seen that, on that people search engine, or any other. Could you copy/paste results please?

I'm tired of these damn Sanchez names. I guess it's better than the name Jones though. 

Searching peoplesmart for last name sanchez-estrada in OR yields:

Quote
Leticia Sanchez

AKA:
Estrada Jaime Sanchez
Estrada Jamie Sanchez
Estrada J Sanchez
Estrada L Sanchez
Leticia Sanchezestrada
Leticia S Estrada

places:
Portland, OR
Milwaukie, OR
Oregon City, OR

relatives:
Arturo C Sanchez

"Leticia" could be the 2nd given name.

Thanks. Now I see it. WTH are they doing? I just don't get it. I'm sick of these people.

It is inconvenient to us, the Spanish names simply do not fit within the US naming convention. 

Spanish names:
- one or two first names
- no middle name
- two last names (last name of paternal grandfather, last name of maternal grandfather)

SSA rules:
- no hyphens or spaces
- first name up to 10 characters
- middle name up to 7 characters
- last name up to 13 characters

The common approach seems to be to either
- concatenate the last names, or
- to use the maternal name as middle name and the paternal name as last name.

When concatenating the logical approach would be to use a hyphen, but many computer systems (such as airlines) will not allow this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_naming_customs
http://www.ssa.gov/employer/ssnvshandbk/usingSSNVS.htm
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