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Author Topic: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland, OR #43 5/23/11 - 4/11/12  (Read 390969 times)
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« Reply #300 on: June 16, 2011, 08:54:23 PM »


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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland, OR #41 1/18/11 -
« Reply #76 on: January 23, 2011, 01:19:05 PM »
Quote from: klaasend on January 23, 2011, 09:45:19 AM
Quote from: sassifrass on January 23, 2011, 09:41:34 AM
I think Jaime and Rudy are brothers. At least that was my understanding. They sure do look alike, don't they?

Yes they do and I wonder why Jaime moved in with Rudy in August 2010?  What changed?  Has anyone looked at Jaime's previous address in Clackamas for evidence of Kyron?  Clackamas is about 24 minutes SE of Portland.

This looks like it may be your answer, although if he went into foreclosure a few years ago, where did he live between 2009 and August of 2010? Maybe in with RS and changed the address when his renewal came due?

http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/11/02/kyron-horman-case-terri-horman-sexts-sent-to-kaine-hormans-phone-what/#comments

riverpearl says:
January 22, 2011 at 7:21 pm

Per the Clean Factor web site, Jaime Estrada “… has been cleaning carpets for over 5 years”.

Could he “be the money” to purchase house ?

JMHO

http://clean-factor.com/company/

No, as I believe he lost his own home to foreclosure a few years back, iirc.
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This is what I remember being posted about Clackamas. Sass what was the address you were talking about?

Also, there was a carwash fundraiser I think in Clackamas. This city has been mentioned several times in this case. Why is that given it is not right around the corner from Skyline El?
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« Reply #301 on: June 16, 2011, 08:58:39 PM »

http://clackamas.katu.com/content/car-wash-fundraiser-planned-aid-kyron-search

There was a carwash fundraiser right near where these bones were found? WTH? Who throw the carwash? Anyone know? There is also an elementary school near to that area, sunnyside el. Ok my mind is spinning. Where is everyone?
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« Reply #302 on: June 16, 2011, 09:15:10 PM »

Another event happened in Sept at the godfathers pizza in Clackamas.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/godfathers-pizza-clackamas
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« Reply #303 on: June 16, 2011, 10:32:14 PM »

http://clackamas.katu.com/content/car-wash-fundraiser-planned-aid-kyron-search

There was a carwash fundraiser right near where these bones were found? WTH? Who throw the carwash? Anyone know? There is also an elementary school near to that area, sunnyside el. Ok my mind is spinning. Where is everyone?

TG: I'm here, kind of. I have some things going on in RL, but I will answer you tomorrow.

Yes there are Clackamas ties.
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« Reply #304 on: June 16, 2011, 10:36:02 PM »

I'll let you know my thoughts tomorrow. I have some thoughts but I have to get back to doing some personal things.

Believe me when I say, even if I have other obligations in my life, I continually think of Kyron and try and find what is missing in this case.
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« Reply #305 on: June 16, 2011, 10:38:11 PM »

Clack Co. LE joined forces in helping with Mult co. LE and I didn't go back and look but IIRC they also have an officer or two still helping out with the task force.  I believe it was one of the counties mentioned still helping.  What we don't know is is this just LE being friendly across the board or is this investigation spilling over into Clack Co. due to some folks tied into it living there?  Maybe we will know one day.  I hate to say it but I'm gonna need to read a book about this case just to see how it was ran and how far and wide they went with this investigation.  I just have a hard time keeping up with this one.
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« Reply #306 on: June 17, 2011, 12:19:50 AM »

link to a pic of the clothing Kyron was wearing. would someone mind posting the pic?

Look at the pants and what the officers are pulling out of the creek? Do you think they look a like?

Hi TG~

I'm hoping they're not Kyron's pants.  The amount of material seems to be more than I imagine for Kyron's clothes (I hope). 
Over at BOC there is discussion about the bones belonging possibly to an adult male?

-----snipped from BOC----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/01/30/fugitive-cop-shooter-david-durhams-house-located-in-new-kyron-horman-search-grid/#comments

18.sma says:
June 16, 2011 at 8:39 pm
cd says:
June 16, 2011 at 7:05 pm

Beejay says:
June 16, 2011 at 1:20 pm

“…in the car on the radio they said they still aren’t sure what they have but “it could be a very large animal or an adult male””
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It could be a deer. a few years ago deer would sometimes cross Sunnyside right around that area. i think one even got hit by a car.

If you look at the news video you see what appears to be deteriorating clothing they were putting into the bags so unlikely moo that it is an animal.
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« Reply #307 on: June 17, 2011, 12:26:04 AM »

link to a pic of the clothing Kyron was wearing. would someone mind posting the pic?

Look at the pants and what the officers are pulling out of the creek? Do you think they look a like?

Hi TG~

I'm hoping they're not Kyron's pants.  The amount of material seems to be more than I imagine for Kyron's clothes (I hope). 
Over at BOC there is discussion about the bones belonging possibly to an adult male?

-----snipped from BOC----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/01/30/fugitive-cop-shooter-david-durhams-house-located-in-new-kyron-horman-search-grid/#comments

18.sma says:
June 16, 2011 at 8:39 pm
cd says:
June 16, 2011 at 7:05 pm

Beejay says:
June 16, 2011 at 1:20 pm

“…in the car on the radio they said they still aren’t sure what they have but “it could be a very large animal or an adult male””
—————

It could be a deer. a few years ago deer would sometimes cross Sunnyside right around that area. i think one even got hit by a car.

If you look at the news video you see what appears to be deteriorating clothing they were putting into the bags so unlikely moo that it is an animal.
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I think I am going to wait until information is released on the bones. I don't know what to think about it.
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« Reply #308 on: June 17, 2011, 08:09:37 AM »

This article is a couple of weeks old, but I couldn't find where it's been posted here previously.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/05/kaine_horman_endures_year_sinc.html
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Kaine Horman endures year since his son Kyron Horman disappeared
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« Reply #309 on: June 17, 2011, 09:02:46 AM »

The address where the bones were found is 13243 SE 124th Ave, Clackamas, OR 97015. This is on the corner of SE 124th and SE Sunnyside rd.


WS had a link to a comment made on OL about a poem that was written by a poster there.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6695904

The direct link to the OL poster comment is here.

http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/anna_griffin/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_horman_has_gone_from_tra/4897/comments-2.html

This was originally posted by "The Eskimo (Rich)", and followed up by a poster named "Open Letter" .


To: The Eskimo (Rich) you posted on July 16, 2010 at 7:58 a.m. on OregonLive the following...

"The sunny side, where you should be, not in the woods or near a tree. A childs blessing a mans remorse, one cops woman so stay the course. Intent was there, luck prevailed humanity blushed and evil sailed, a course, a path, watery grave. Not the K or T we know but others hands in the fire, so, look elsewhere, you will find a clue, idea and then the end that we all knew, would come, sad and happy to see it gone, our lives will go on but one will not, we shed a tear for little him, but not for them."
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« Reply #310 on: June 17, 2011, 10:13:05 AM »

This is for erose and MBS over at BOC. Not sure which image of Terri you wanted to use. If you give me a link I'll post the one you want.

http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/01/30/fugitive-cop-shooter-david-durhams-house-located-in-new-kyron-horman-search-grid/#comments

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June 17, 2011 at 2:07 am

Wow, your post blows me away. DAD’s brother referenced Willie and Laurie/Lori in an interview, and we spent some time on finding out who they are, and it seems someone found a newspaper article that implied DAD’s mother and stepfather(?) adopted them. It would not be hard to believe that she adopted DAD.

The Monkey’s came up with Kisiel as TH’s birth mother’s name. This was done by process of elimination. DAD is 44, TH is 41. Who knows.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8168.10;wap2

IF ANY MONKEY’S ARE READING, could you please try what T.Ruth did or post side by side photos of DAD and TH so we can see the resemblance?

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June 16, 2011 at 3:25 pm

Since we’re still under the David Durham thread, can anyone tell me if anyone has found a birth certificate for him? I just can’t get over how much he and Terri look alike, like brother and sister and he looks nothing like his brother that we’ve seen on the news. Could he be adopted as well? There is a blog somewhere that alleges DAD was a cancer victim and needed treatment he could not afford. Is it possible he was adopted and went looking for his bio family to get financial assistance? Found Terri, tried to squeeze her, instead held something over her head and kidnapped Kyron? IDK, but their resemblance just blows me away. I saved both their pictures and if you slide one over the other, the eyes line up, the ears line up, the mouth and nose, DAD’s chin is slightly longer. Just blows me away.
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland, OR #41 1/18/11 -
« Reply #76 on: January 23, 2011, 01:19:05 PM »
Quote from: klaasend on January 23, 2011, 09:45:19 AM
Quote from: sassifrass on January 23, 2011, 09:41:34 AM
I think Jaime and Rudy are brothers. At least that was my understanding. They sure do look alike, don't they?

Yes they do and I wonder why Jaime moved in with Rudy in August 2010?  What changed?  Has anyone looked at Jaime's previous address in Clackamas for evidence of Kyron?  Clackamas is about 24 minutes SE of Portland.

This looks like it may be your answer, although if he went into foreclosure a few years ago, where did he live between 2009 and August of 2010? Maybe in with RS and changed the address when his renewal came due?

http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/11/02/kyron-horman-case-terri-horman-sexts-sent-to-kaine-hormans-phone-what/#comments

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January 22, 2011 at 7:21 pm

Per the Clean Factor web site, Jaime Estrada “… has been cleaning carpets for over 5 years”.

Could he “be the money” to purchase house ?

JMHO

http://clean-factor.com/company/

No, as I believe he lost his own home to foreclosure a few years back, iirc.
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This is what I remember being posted about Clackamas. Sass what was the address you were talking about?

Also, there was a carwash fundraiser I think in Clackamas. This city has been mentioned several times in this case. Why is that given it is not right around the corner from Skyline El?

TG: the address is 7169 SE Renada St., Milwaukie, OR 97267. It is 11 minutes from the bones house.

http://www.bing.com/maps/?rtp=adr.13243%20SE%20124th%20Ave%2C%20Clackamas%2C%20OR%2C%2097015~pos.45.413971_-122.589737_7169+SE+Renada+St,+Milwaukie,+OR+97267-3342&where1=7169+SE+Renada+St,+Milwaukie,+OR+97267-3342
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland, OR #41 1/18/11 -
« Reply #76 on: January 23, 2011, 01:19:05 PM »
Quote from: klaasend on January 23, 2011, 09:45:19 AM
Quote from: sassifrass on January 23, 2011, 09:41:34 AM
I think Jaime and Rudy are brothers. At least that was my understanding. They sure do look alike, don't they?

Yes they do and I wonder why Jaime moved in with Rudy in August 2010?  What changed?  Has anyone looked at Jaime's previous address in Clackamas for evidence of Kyron?  Clackamas is about 24 minutes SE of Portland.

This looks like it may be your answer, although if he went into foreclosure a few years ago, where did he live between 2009 and August of 2010? Maybe in with RS and changed the address when his renewal came due?

http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/11/02/kyron-horman-case-terri-horman-sexts-sent-to-kaine-hormans-phone-what/#comments

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January 22, 2011 at 7:21 pm

Per the Clean Factor web site, Jaime Estrada “… has been cleaning carpets for over 5 years”.

Could he “be the money” to purchase house ?

JMHO

http://clean-factor.com/company/

No, as I believe he lost his own home to foreclosure a few years back, iirc.
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This is what I remember being posted about Clackamas. Sass what was the address you were talking about?

Also, there was a carwash fundraiser I think in Clackamas. This city has been mentioned several times in this case. Why is that given it is not right around the corner from Skyline El?

TG: the address is 7169 SE Renada St., Milwaukie, OR 97267. It is 11 minutes from the bones house.

http://maps.yahoo.com/#mvt=m&lat=45.423695&lon=-122.56467&zoom=15&q1=7169%20SE%20Renada%20St.%2C%20Milwaukie%2C%20OR%2097267&q2=13243%20SE%20124th%20Ave%2C%20Clackamas%2C%20OR%2097015-9321&gid2=63932748


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« Reply #313 on: June 17, 2011, 01:47:15 PM »

Sassi - TY for the post of the pictures of Terri and DAD

Uncanny - how much they look alike, isn't it?

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« Reply #314 on: June 17, 2011, 03:19:32 PM »

I agree neighbor. It's not just deafening, it's down right ghostly how people are keeping their mouths shut. Why is that? I'm not just talking about LE either.

You see one person trying to soothe the search and investigation by stating it may take up to 4 years, and another person screaming out using bill boards, that they will never give up. Why is that?

Let's not forget about the people that are on the side lines and yet a part of this mess just by being a part of the Skyline community, or a part of the Horman associated crew. They are also silent. Why is that? Many of these people have children. How could they not speak up?

Then we have dead bodies near the search areas and there is no follow up. You contact MSM and they ignore you. Why is that?

We have death scents coming from the Horman property that are being ignored. Even if it turned out to be false, why not utilize every means possible, to prove to themselves, that it was a false alarm? It's free. They wouldn't have to pay a dime.

I'm sick of it! This little boy deserves more than that. He deserves the right to have adults stand up for him and take him home where he belongs.

I have more questions than answers.

Regarding the Skyline community .. realizing that this is not just a family affair is scary for those that trust their kids to school everyday.  Several people who have been following this case, don't think MCSO is equipped to handle this case. 

Once discussions about PPS policies started, the giant flexed its muscle. PPS hinted that they can switch the high school as easy as 1-2-3.  PPS has hinted it considers to straight-out close Skyline school if attendance drops significantly.  In their last move PPS showed that can replace the highly praised principal at will.
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« Reply #315 on: June 17, 2011, 03:46:16 PM »

The address where the bones were found is 13243 SE 124th Ave, Clackamas, OR 97015. This is on the corner of SE 124th and SE Sunnyside rd.

WS had a link to a comment made on OL about a poem that was written by a poster there.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6695904

The direct link to the OL poster comment is here.

http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/anna_griffin/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_horman_has_gone_from_tra/4897/comments-2.html

This was originally posted by "The Eskimo (Rich)", and followed up by a poster named "Open Letter" .


To: The Eskimo (Rich) you posted on July 16, 2010 at 7:58 a.m. on OregonLive the following...

"The sunny side, where you should be, not in the woods or near a tree. A childs blessing a mans remorse, one cops woman so stay the course. Intent was there, luck prevailed humanity blushed and evil sailed, a course, a path, watery grave. Not the K or T we know but others hands in the fire, so, look elsewhere, you will find a clue, idea and then the end that we all knew, would come, sad and happy to see it gone, our lives will go on but one will not, we shed a tear for little him, but not for them."

That is poem (BBM) is creepy in relation to the location of the bones.

The bones were found near
  13243 SE 124th Ave, Clackamas
That place is close to a strip mall and garage boxes.
http://www.flashalert.net/news.html?id=624

Rudy lived 3.7 mi from there at
  9850 SE Amherst St, Clackamas

The car wash fundraiser was 0.3 miles away at
  12002 SE Sunnyside Rd, Clackamas
http://clackamas.katu.com/content/car-wash-fundraiser-planned-aid-kyron-search

If these were animal bones, I guess that CCSO would have figured that out by now.  What animal wears cloths anyway.
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« Reply #316 on: June 17, 2011, 03:49:21 PM »

I agree neighbor. It's not just deafening, it's down right ghostly how people are keeping their mouths shut. Why is that? I'm not just talking about LE either.

You see one person trying to soothe the search and investigation by stating it may take up to 4 years, and another person screaming out using bill boards, that they will never give up. Why is that?

Let's not forget about the people that are on the side lines and yet a part of this mess just by being a part of the Skyline community, or a part of the Horman associated crew. They are also silent. Why is that? Many of these people have children. How could they not speak up?

Then we have dead bodies near the search areas and there is no follow up. You contact MSM and they ignore you. Why is that?

We have death scents coming from the Horman property that are being ignored. Even if it turned out to be false, why not utilize every means possible, to prove to themselves, that it was a false alarm? It's free. They wouldn't have to pay a dime.

I'm sick of it! This little boy deserves more than that. He deserves the right to have adults stand up for him and take him home where he belongs.

I have more questions than answers.

Regarding the Skyline community .. realizing that this is not just a family affair is scary for those that trust their kids to school everyday.  Several people who have been following this case, don't think MCSO is equipped to handle this case

Once discussions about PPS policies started, the giant flexed its muscle. PPS hinted that they can switch the high school as easy as 1-2-3.  PPS has hinted it considers to straight-out close Skyline school if attendance drops significantly.  In their last move PPS showed that can replace the highly praised principal at will.


BBM

In one word, "UNBELIEVABLE". That is disgraceful. I think new board members need to be re-elected. Kyron going missing, happened on their watch and what do they do? They start throwing their "strong arm tactics" around. Allowing full blown alcoholics to work with the children. What BS! 

I do not envy you, living in that school district.

As far as MCSO not being able to handle this case, I think they have already proven that. They have done a suck azz job so far, because Kyron isn't home.
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« Reply #317 on: June 17, 2011, 03:56:53 PM »

Per T.Ruth, this is the pic she compared to DAD. FYI, I enlarged it a bit to get a better look. For you T. Ruth.

http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/01/30/fugitive-cop-shooter-david-durhams-house-located-in-new-kyron-horman-search-grid/#comments

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June 17, 2011 at 12:22 pm

@erose

FYI, this is the picture I used when comparing DAD’s pic above with Terri as she’s pretty much looking straight on as he is, if anyone would like to try it. http://www.opposingviews.com/i/terri-horman-sexting-since-kyron-s-disappearance


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« Reply #318 on: June 17, 2011, 04:00:46 PM »

The address where the bones were found is 13243 SE 124th Ave, Clackamas, OR 97015. This is on the corner of SE 124th and SE Sunnyside rd.

WS had a link to a comment made on OL about a poem that was written by a poster there.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6695904

The direct link to the OL poster comment is here.

http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/anna_griffin/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_horman_has_gone_from_tra/4897/comments-2.html

This was originally posted by "The Eskimo (Rich)", and followed up by a poster named "Open Letter" .


To: The Eskimo (Rich) you posted on July 16, 2010 at 7:58 a.m. on OregonLive the following...

"The sunny side, where you should be, not in the woods or near a tree. A childs blessing a mans remorse, one cops woman so stay the course. Intent was there, luck prevailed humanity blushed and evil sailed, a course, a path, watery grave. Not the K or T we know but others hands in the fire, so, look elsewhere, you will find a clue, idea and then the end that we all knew, would come, sad and happy to see it gone, our lives will go on but one will not, we shed a tear for little him, but not for them."

That is poem (BBM) is creepy in relation to the location of the bones.

The bones were found near
  13243 SE 124th Ave, Clackamas
That place is close to a strip mall and garage boxes.
http://www.flashalert.net/news.html?id=624

Rudy lived 3.7 mi from there at
  9850 SE Amherst St, Clackamas

The car wash fundraiser was 0.3 miles away at
  12002 SE Sunnyside Rd, Clackamas
http://clackamas.katu.com/content/car-wash-fundraiser-planned-aid-kyron-search

If these were animal bones, I guess that CCSO would have figured that out by now.  What animal wears cloths anyway.

Crazy link but .. "Cops woman", reminded me of an ex-LEO or the beauty salon owner Debbie Higbee Benton that was murdered in Clackamas.
http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=130715624941113100
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« Reply #319 on: June 17, 2011, 04:04:35 PM »

The address where the bones were found is 13243 SE 124th Ave, Clackamas, OR 97015. This is on the corner of SE 124th and SE Sunnyside rd.

WS had a link to a comment made on OL about a poem that was written by a poster there.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6695904

The direct link to the OL poster comment is here.

http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/anna_griffin/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_horman_has_gone_from_tra/4897/comments-2.html

This was originally posted by "The Eskimo (Rich)", and followed up by a poster named "Open Letter" .


To: The Eskimo (Rich) you posted on July 16, 2010 at 7:58 a.m. on OregonLive the following...

"The sunny side, where you should be, not in the woods or near a tree. A childs blessing a mans remorse, one cops woman so stay the course. Intent was there, luck prevailed humanity blushed and evil sailed, a course, a path, watery grave. Not the K or T we know but others hands in the fire, so, look elsewhere, you will find a clue, idea and then the end that we all knew, would come, sad and happy to see it gone, our lives will go on but one will not, we shed a tear for little him, but not for them."

That is poem (BBM) is creepy in relation to the location of the bones.

The bones were found near
  13243 SE 124th Ave, Clackamas
That place is close to a strip mall and garage boxes.
http://www.flashalert.net/news.html?id=624

Rudy lived 3.7 mi from there at
  9850 SE Amherst St, Clackamas

The car wash fundraiser was 0.3 miles away at
  12002 SE Sunnyside Rd, Clackamas
http://clackamas.katu.com/content/car-wash-fundraiser-planned-aid-kyron-search

If these were animal bones, I guess that CCSO would have figured that out by now.  What animal wears cloths anyway.

BBM

I know, I know! Mickey Mouse!  Monkey Devil! Tired of the Barney Fife's.

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