Hailey Dunn #8 2/25/11 - 3/05/11

[Titch]

This is an old article from Jan 22nd, but it shows the city's budget somewhat. I wonder if they have a fund set up for people to donate to, to assist and offset the cost of Hailey's investigation. If so, that is definitely something I'd donate to. I refuse to donate to Billie, and any organization that assists her. Again, I don't even care if she's innocent in Hailey's disappearance at this point, bc she still showed negligence to her children.

Sorry, here's the link:

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/22/kampfer/

[Tamikosmom]

It is one thing to explore other avenues in his quest for answers regarding his missing daughter but .... it is quite another thing when Clint references the official suspect in the Hailey Dunn case as "sincere" ... as "innocent".  IMO

The distancing of Shawn Adkins by both of Hailey's parents has to be very frustrating to investigators in their efforts to connect the dots.

Janet

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Sincere?

Adkins "Needs to Help Find Hailey" Father Says
Tuesday, February 08 2011

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As the only named suspect in Hailey Dunn's disappearance ends his silence, Hailey's father has something to say about Shawn Adkins.

"Instead of spending money on a lawyer he needs to spend money on trying to find Hailey," said Clint Dunn.

Adkins, Hailey's mother's once live-in boyfriend told KTAB in an exclusive interview that he maintains his innocence, and Clint says although he believes Adkins is sincere.
 
"He needs to help find Hailey," said Clint, "so he can get the heat off of him."

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http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339996
 
 
Innocent?
 
Missing Teen's Father Believes Only Named Suspect Is Innocent
POSTED: 6:23 pm CST February 23, 2011
UPDATED: 8:23 pm CST February 23, 2011

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- The missing Colorado City teen's father speaks out Wednesday on the only named suspect in his daughter's case, Shawn Adkins.

Clint Dunn told KTXS he doesn't believe Adkins is involved in his daughters disappearance, "I want Shawn to get out and help. That's how he will prove his innocence and I think he is innocent."

Clint told KTXS Wednesday he is no longer putting any stock in all the rumors, and he still has complete faith in finding his daughter alive.

<snipped>

Video
http://www.ktxs.com/news/26972918/detail.html
 

[Titch]

It is one thing to explore other avenues in his quest for answers regarding his missing daughter but .... it is quite another thing when Clint references the official suspect in the Hailey Dunn case as "sincere" ... as "innocent".  IMO

The distancing of Shawn Adkins by both of Hailey's parents has to be very frustrating to investigators in their efforts to connect the dots.

Janet

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Sincere?

Adkins "Needs to Help Find Hailey" Father Says
Tuesday, February 08 2011

<snipped>

As the only named suspect in Hailey Dunn's disappearance ends his silence, Hailey's father has something to say about Shawn Adkins.

"Instead of spending money on a lawyer he needs to spend money on trying to find Hailey," said Clint Dunn.

Adkins, Hailey's mother's once live-in boyfriend told KTAB in an exclusive interview that he maintains his innocence, and Clint says although he believes Adkins is sincere.
 
"He needs to help find Hailey," said Clint, "so he can get the heat off of him."

<snipped>

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339996
 
 
Innocent?
 
Missing Teen's Father Believes Only Named Suspect Is Innocent
POSTED: 6:23 pm CST February 23, 2011
UPDATED: 8:23 pm CST February 23, 2011

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- The missing Colorado City teen's father speaks out Wednesday on the only named suspect in his daughter's case, Shawn Adkins.

Clint Dunn told KTXS he doesn't believe Adkins is involved in his daughters disappearance, "I want Shawn to get out and help. That's how he will prove his innocence and I think he is innocent."

Clint told KTXS Wednesday he is no longer putting any stock in all the rumors, and he still has complete faith in finding his daughter alive.

<snipped>

Video
http://www.ktxs.com/news/26972918/detail.html
 

I agree, Janet, but I think Clint said he thought Shawn may be innocent before the child porn info was released.

[starwynn]

Ugh...I got up after going to sleep, restless night so I'm finding myself here pondering a few thoughts in the wee hours of the morning.

Ya know, in light of what was disclosed my mind went back to revisiting it being reported that Billie worked as a stripper, despite her being 33 yet has the underdeveloped body of a younger girl or maybe that is exactly why she was hired.  The reason I'm bringing that up is because that inandofitself would indicate that she is desensitized.   She met Shawn on line & then carried on a relationship while she was still living with Clint, bottom line she cheated on her husband...was that a first time during their marriage, something tells me no.   It makes me have further consideration that she knew what was on that memory stick and/or what she shared with Shawn together for that matter.  Their other self-described "hobby" was looking at gore & "studying" murder cases..her constant flat affect seems to indicate that she is void of all moral compass & has a twisted sense of priorities.  It was also said that Clint mentioned that Shawn was supposedly upset & jealous that she striped (I cant remember if that was said in his own words in an interview or someone mentioned what he said but I do remember it being said).

She bothered to get a nursing license at one point in her life, I guess to some degree she was a decent mother up to a certain point but yet she got hooked on prescription drugs, got together with a violent sociopath & decided to start stripping...these are choices she made herself & there is no one else to blame for it but her.   She had several chances to get Shawn out of her & her childrens' lives, instead she made it a he said/she said cat and mouse game involving 911 several times...if you listen to her snide remarks on the calls it was meant to "get back" at Shawn more than it was for protection.   BILLIE put her children at risk, played with fire & seemed to enjoy screwing with people's heads, including Shawn.   It seems that all her recent year activity revolved around resentment that her youth was taken from her early, why because she got pregnant as a teen.  In essence, she has been rebelling responsibility & acting out after spending years tied down to it.

The last straw for me was hearing her denials & claims of being in the dark after it was disclosed what was found at her house & Shawn's mother's house.   The entire raw interview was filled with major deception.  She is more upset that she has to further defend Shawn and herself than she is that something happened to Hailey.   There is only one reason why she cannot and will not be outraged with Shawn, she has guilt by participation to some degree or knowledge after the fact regarding why the world has not seen Hailey.

Pretty much spot on, I'd say.

I'd add if you look at her pictures, early portrait, with Hailey, BD is dressed up like a little girl lolita.  She's wearing a stripy shirt, hair in pigtails, but particularly heavy-heavy makeup.  Honestly she looks out of it.  I wonder if she picked up stripping before or after she picked up drugs, because the two sadly do go together.  We have never once heard her deny the stripper charges; but have we had an actual confirmation?  Maybe that's a question for her tonight on the webchat.

[Tamikosmom]

When you think about the ongoing relationship between law enforcement and the parents of Kyron Horman ... the ongoing relationship that has kept Desiree Young and Kaine Horman informed of every update in the investigation of their missing son .... what is wrong with the picture in the Hailey Dunn case?  Why are Hailey Dunn's parents not being kept informed of the status of the investigation into the disappearance of their daughter.  Are there underlying issues that have not been revealed?

Janet

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Clint Dunn

Clint Dunn Expresses Frustration With AuthoritiesBy Casey James, KTXS News
POSTED: 10:35 pm CST February 12, 2011
EmailPrintAAAText SizeUPDATED: 9:19 am CST February 14, 2011

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Nearly seven weeks after the disappearance of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn, her father Clint Dunn is frustrated with police as he continues to search for his daughter.

"I haven't talked to them in three weeks; I don't know what they're doing," Clint Dunn said Saturday.

Clint Dunn expressed his frustration with how tight-lipped authorities are being about the investigation of his missing daughter.

Clint told KTXS, "They haven't called me or nothing. Last time I went up there ... three weeks ago was the last time they have gotten a hold of me."

Colorado City officials have assured KTXS that they plan to get in touch with Hailey's parents if there is a big break in the case. So far that hasn't happened.

Hailey's mother, Billie Dunn, has told us that police do call her every now and again.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/26848324/detail.html


Billie Dunn

Missing teen's father putting faith in God that his daughter will be found
Posted: Jan 21, 2011 7:09 PM PST
Updated: Jan 21, 2011 8:51 PM PST

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Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer said the number of people from outside agencies working on the case has lessened. He estimates about 10 people per day working on the case, down from 30 a week ago. "It's disappointing. I wish they'd call more people in to see what's going on, but I guess they're giving up," Dunn said.

Kampfer insists they're not giving up and that their investigation will continue even if numbers are lower. Dunn said conversations with Hailey's mother Billie are also less frequent. "We're in the same book, but not in the same page. We're not keeping a lot of contact, especially since the affidavits came out."

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http://www.kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=13887971

[cw618]

Anyone think she will actually show up for this

sure she will,billie likes to talk and talk, about SA LOL

[starwynn]

It is one thing to explore other avenues in his quest for answers regarding his missing daughter but .... it is quite another thing when Clint references the official suspect in the Hailey Dunn case as "sincere" ... as "innocent".  IMO

The distancing of Shawn Adkins by both of Hailey's parents has to be very frustrating to investigators in their efforts to connect the dots.

Janet

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Well, think of it this way - he has no more ability of proving Shawn's guilt than you or I would, honestly.  The LE already know about Shawn's character (the masks, the cp, the bat, the threats, the picking fights, the videos, the "blood thirsty s----" as SA so 'eloquently' puts it /rollseyes).  Anything CD knows about Shawn on that day, or others, I'm sure he's told.  I don't get where he got "sincere", but I see his statements as being two things:  a) attempts at keeping things civil with BD in (mislead) hopes that as before if he were nice and played dumb, BD would finally relent; and b) a sincere inability to deal with the fact that he let HD live in a house with her when someone of THAT level of monsterousness was living there, possibly resulting in her death, which he cannot afford to believe.

You say by morals sakes he cannot afford not to come out and say that SA is guilty.  If he does do it, it will change not one single thing except our perceptions about him.  He already knows the only people who can do anything about it feel that SA is guilty and are trying their best to prove it.
He says by hanging on to the edge of the cliff that is his sanity, he cannot afford to come out and say that he and BD are guilty.
He has to survive, to live, if he's going to be here to be the only person out looking for his daughter. 

[starwynn]

Anyone think she will actually show up for this

sure she will,billie likes to talk and talk, about SA LOL

Exactly she HAS to - her Boo's honor is at stake!

However, I predict she'll refuse to answer all the good questions, or possibly walk out.  Like she did with the polygraph.

I don't think that bigcountryhomepage is going to be able to handle the types of questions they're likely to get tonight....

[Titch]

When you think about the ongoing relationship between law enforcement and the parents of Kyron Horman ... the ongoing relationship that has kept Desiree Young and Kaine Horman informed of every update in the investigation of their missing son .... what is wrong with the picture in the Hailey Dunn case?  Why are Hailey Dunn's parents not being kept informed of the status of the investigation into the disappearance of their daughter.  Are there underlying issues that have not been revealed?

Janet

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Clint Dunn

Clint Dunn Expresses Frustration With AuthoritiesBy Casey James, KTXS News
POSTED: 10:35 pm CST February 12, 2011
EmailPrintAAAText SizeUPDATED: 9:19 am CST February 14, 2011

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Nearly seven weeks after the disappearance of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn, her father Clint Dunn is frustrated with police as he continues to search for his daughter.

"I haven't talked to them in three weeks; I don't know what they're doing," Clint Dunn said Saturday.

Clint Dunn expressed his frustration with how tight-lipped authorities are being about the investigation of his missing daughter.

Clint told KTXS, "They haven't called me or nothing. Last time I went up there ... three weeks ago was the last time they have gotten a hold of me."

Colorado City officials have assured KTXS that they plan to get in touch with Hailey's parents if there is a big break in the case. So far that hasn't happened.

Hailey's mother, Billie Dunn, has told us that police do call her every now and again.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/26848324/detail.html


Billie Dunn

Missing teen's father putting faith in God that his daughter will be found
Posted: Jan 21, 2011 7:09 PM PST
Updated: Jan 21, 2011 8:51 PM PST

<snipped>

Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer said the number of people from outside agencies working on the case has lessened. He estimates about 10 people per day working on the case, down from 30 a week ago. "It's disappointing. I wish they'd call more people in to see what's going on, but I guess they're giving up," Dunn said.

Kampfer insists they're not giving up and that their investigation will continue even if numbers are lower. Dunn said conversations with Hailey's mother Billie are also less frequent. "We're in the same book, but not in the same page. We're not keeping a lot of contact, especially since the affidavits came out."

<snipped>

http://www.kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=13887971

Only reason I can think of is because they can't be ruled out. Even if they've ruled out Clint, he still sort of protects Billie, so imo they won't be forthcoming with him.

Again, this is just my opinion.

They most certainly will not share information with anybody that they can;t rule out and isn;t a professional connected to the case. They could get in trouble if done.

[starwynn]

Thanks for the links Starwynn

Janet

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<3

[Titch]

I'd like to know all of the media stations that play in their area, their owners, and their head professional staff. Time to see who's anti dp and who's for it. This case is gonna be big. This is a poor area in the middle of one of the highest grossing oil business lands. Criminal defense attorneys are gonna start coming outta the woodwork.

Again, with all the arrests regarding these families, I'd like to know if there is a formal investigation going on as to where and who is prescribing these narcotics? Is there doctor shopping occurring? Who are the major drug dealers in that area? What types of drug factories does that area favor? I've read that meth labs used to be prevalent but they're getting the meth problem under control now. Is this true?

[Tamikosmom]

I agree, Janet, but I think Clint said he thought Shawn may be innocent before the child porn info was released.

Prior to the child porn revealation ... on the NG show and in the BTH intervier ... Clint's mother and sister's words imply they were are the same page as Monkeys regarding speculations encompassing Shawn Adkins ... speculations based on affidavits.  However ... Hailey's parents read the same affidavits and ... continued to distance Shawn from implication in the disappearance of their daughter.

Neither Billie nor Clint have directed any outrage towards Shawn regarding the child porn revelation ... an emotion that I would have expected. 

Titch ... think about the facebook entry posted by Clint's BIL.  Richy Cooper's words reveal one distraught/angry uncle.

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No clue whether this is rumor or not.......just reposting:

Richy Cooper, Hailey's Uncle just posted this on FB

Richy Cooper
Ok, Know that I speak only for myself and that this is just my opinion and should involve no one but myself. I believe that Shawn raped and killed Hailey in the middle of the night and then told Billie what had happened, that's when they co...ncocted their story. I think he dismembered her the next morning in the 2 hours he had in ccity and then took her to a hidden location to dispose of her. I don't think we'll find her. I am writing this, barely able to see through my tears as I hate the thoughts I have about what has happened to this precious neice of mine. Fred I'm so sorry! I personally think that for pedophiles, child pornographers, beast lovers and the like, that prison is too good for them. I believe that they should all be placed into a room together in groups of 20 and given a single dull knife and then told when there is only one, we'll feed you. Do that each day till they're all gone. Then maybe the next "Hailey" will get to have her life and love and children of her own.

http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34799002&postID=2638812607171373610

[starwynn]

Only reason I can think of is because they can't be ruled out. Even if they've ruled out Clint, he still sort of protects Billie, so imo they won't be forthcoming with him.

Again, this is just my opinion.

They most certainly will not share information with anybody that they can;t rule out and isn;t a professional connected to the case. They could get in trouble if done.

I definitely agree; I think they aren't being terribly open with Clint, honestly, for a few reasons:
a)  He had a warrant out, drug associations, etc.  Those are cleared up, but until time passes, he will still be seen as a druggie to them.
b)  He has had a tendancy to go-with-the-flow as far as BD goes in his hopes that she will relent and give up information, at least not balk to punish him.
c)  He has not publicly denounced her strongly (unlike Kyron's parents), and likely will not; in their eyes, that makes too large of a risk of his telling her something he finds out.
d)  There is too little evidence/information in this case already to risk the loss of it or weakening of it by having it anywhere other than close to the vest.

[starwynn]

Only reason I can think of is because they can't be ruled out. Even if they've ruled out Clint, he still sort of protects Billie, so imo they won't be forthcoming with him.

Again, this is just my opinion.

They most certainly will not share information with anybody that they can;t rule out and isn;t a professional connected to the case. They could get in trouble if done.

I definitely agree; I think they aren't being terribly open with Clint, honestly, for a few reasons:
a)  He had a warrant out, drug associations, etc.  Those are cleared up, but until time passes, he will still be seen as a druggie to them.
b)  He has had a tendancy to go-with-the-flow as far as BD goes in his hopes that she will relent and give up information, at least not balk to punish him.
c)  He has not publicly denounced her strongly (unlike Kyron's parents), and likely will not; in their eyes, that makes too large of a risk of his telling her something he finds out.
d)  There is too little evidence/information in this case already to risk the loss of it or weakening of it by having it anywhere other than close to the vest.

I'm going to add another.
e) Unlike TH, BD is the actual biomother of the missing child.  It has been shown time and time again that when a biomother might be the culprit, fathers have a much harder time accepting the fact and distancing themselves than if it's a step-mother.   I'm sure the police and FBI at least realize this and theyre just being conservative.

[Titch]

I agree, Janet, but I think Clint said he thought Shawn may be innocent before the child porn info was released.

Prior to the child porn revealation ... on the NG show and in the BTH intervier ... Clint's mother and sister's words imply they were are the same page as Monkeys regarding speculations encompassing Shawn Adkins ... speculations based on affidavits.  However ... Hailey's parents read the same affidavits and ... continued to distance Shawn from implication in the disappearance of their daughter.

Neither Billie nor Clint have directed any outrage towards Shawn regarding the child porn revelation ... an emotion that I would have expected. 

Titch ... think about the facebook entry posted by Clint's BIL.  Richy Cooper's words reveal one distraught/angry uncle.

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No clue whether this is rumor or not.......just reposting:

Richy Cooper, Hailey's Uncle just posted this on FB

Richy Cooper
Ok, Know that I speak only for myself and that this is just my opinion and should involve no one but myself. I believe that Shawn raped and killed Hailey in the middle of the night and then told Billie what had happened, that's when they co...ncocted their story. I think he dismembered her the next morning in the 2 hours he had in ccity and then took her to a hidden location to dispose of her. I don't think we'll find her. I am writing this, barely able to see through my tears as I hate the thoughts I have about what has happened to this precious neice of mine. Fred I'm so sorry! I personally think that for pedophiles, child pornographers, beast lovers and the like, that prison is too good for them. I believe that they should all be placed into a room together in groups of 20 and given a single dull knife and then told when there is only one, we'll feed you. Do that each day till they're all gone. Then maybe the next "Hailey" will get to have her life and love and children of her own.

http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34799002&postID=2638812607171373610

I know, I totally agree with you, Janet. Clint did say that before the child porn info came out, though. I do think he's just trying to take the higher road bc maybe he feels Billie is the link to finding Hailey. Or...maybe Clint still has a soft spot for Billie so is trying to give her and her man the benefit of the doubt? Nothing makes sense...unless he's still in love with her and has many regrets himself...or...unless he believe Billie and/or Shawn are his ticket to finding his daughter.

I love how Desiree, Tony and Kaine are handiling their united front against Terri...but...it hasn't helped to make Terri budge. Maybe Clint is trying to do the opposite?

I have no idea, really, but I do agree with you. I know I'd be in somebody's face over this, that's for darn sure!

[Titch]

Only reason I can think of is because they can't be ruled out. Even if they've ruled out Clint, he still sort of protects Billie, so imo they won't be forthcoming with him.

Again, this is just my opinion.

They most certainly will not share information with anybody that they can;t rule out and isn;t a professional connected to the case. They could get in trouble if done.

I definitely agree; I think they aren't being terribly open with Clint, honestly, for a few reasons:
a)  He had a warrant out, drug associations, etc.  Those are cleared up, but until time passes, he will still be seen as a druggie to them.
b)  He has had a tendancy to go-with-the-flow as far as BD goes in his hopes that she will relent and give up information, at least not balk to punish him.
c)  He has not publicly denounced her strongly (unlike Kyron's parents), and likely will not; in their eyes, that makes too large of a risk of his telling her something he finds out.
d)  There is too little evidence/information in this case already to risk the loss of it or weakening of it by having it anywhere other than close to the vest.

I'm going to add another.
e) Unlike TH, BD is the actual biomother of the missing child.  It has been shown time and time again that when a biomother might be the culprit, fathers have a much harder time accepting the fact and distancing themselves than if it's a step-mother.   I'm sure the police and FBI at least realize this and theyre just being conservative.

Gosh, Starwyn, especially with your ""e0"! I am finding that I agree with you just about every single time you post. It always seems to make sense.

[cw618]

fires are still burning in some counties

Texas Wildfire Update: Four Large Blazes in Big Country
Large fires from yesterday (more than 300 acres):
snip
MITCHELL COUNTY COMPLEX, Howard/Mitchell counties:
7,000 acres. This fire started in Howard County and burned close to two other fires in Mitchell County. The fires have burned around Big Spring and Colorado City. Twelve homes were destroyed and three damaged. A nursing home in Colorado City was evacuated. A Texas Forest Service Type 3 incident management team was deployed Sunday evening from the command post in Abilene.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=347286

[Tamikosmom]

When you think about the ongoing relationship between law enforcement and the parents of Kyron Horman ... the ongoing relationship that has kept Desiree Young and Kaine Horman informed of every update in the investigation of their missing son .... what is wrong with the picture in the Hailey Dunn case?  Why are Hailey Dunn's parents not being kept informed of the status of the investigation into the disappearance of their daughter.  Are there underlying issues that have not been revealed?

Janet

++++++

<snipped>

Only reason I can think of is because they can't be ruled out. Even if they've ruled out Clint, he still sort of protects Billie, so imo they won't be forthcoming with him.

Again, this is just my opinion.

They most certainly will not share information with anybody that they can;t rule out and isn;t a professional connected to the case. They could get in trouble if done.

Makes sense.  Thanks Titch.

Janet

[Titch]

fires are still burning in some counties

Texas Wildfire Update: Four Large Blazes in Big Country
Large fires from yesterday (more than 300 acres):
snip
MITCHELL COUNTY COMPLEX, Howard/Mitchell counties:
7,000 acres. This fire started in Howard County and burned close to two other fires in Mitchell County. The fires have burned around Big Spring and Colorado City. Twelve homes were destroyed and three damaged. A nursing home in Colorado City was evacuated. A Texas Forest Service Type 3 incident management team was deployed Sunday evening from the command post in Abilene.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=347286

This makes me so angry. Almost makes ya wonder if   somebody   started it intentionally and just used the guise of wildfire season or something.

[Puzzler]

Just listening to Fox News talking about the Texas fires - saying it's dry as a bone out there and very windy.

Fires are not under control.  Authorities do not believe these fires were deliverately set.