Hailey Dunn #8 2/25/11 - 3/05/11

[Tamikosmom]

Titch

Thanks!!!

Could it be assumed that this is not the same boat belonging to Uncle Cody that was in the video that of Shawn and Corey?

Janet

[Titch]

Titch

Thanks!!!

Could it be assumed that this is not the same boat belonging to Uncle Cody that was in the video that of Shawn and Corey?

Janet

You're very welcome & I have no idea if it's the same boat.

You know what? I just thought of something, could somebody run a boating license check? All boats, just like vehicles, have to be registered. Once a true description is found, it could be used for comparison purposes. I'm on my son's computer right now, so I can't save those pictures that I just posed. Could somebody please google that entire craigslist ad, just put the link in the search field, then instead of clicking on the link, click on the cache instead, then save the google cached link of that craigslist ad, then save the pics of the boat. I can't do it from this computer but I have a feeling that ad is gonna go "poof"...

[Tamikosmom]

Who all resides at the Walker residence and ... who had access to the computer?

1.  Christina Walker
2.  Steven Walker
3.  Brad Roberts?
4.  Tyler Adkins
5.  Shawn Adkins 

[Titch]

Hailey Dunn Open DiscussionBD was at the search center today. She did have a tattoo of Hailey. It wasn't paid for by donations. It was stated it was paid for by her dad (I am assuming stepfather.) and he is the one that sent her to get it. There is no link to this, it came from a very good source. You can take it as a rumor or fact, the choice is yours. (MM)


http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905#!/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905

I thought her step father was killed - shot while in the front doorway.     

Now I'm not sure, but I thought that it was Mr. Ostrander that was shot and died
several days later.  I think he was Billie real father, though not married to Connie
Stewart at the time of Billie's birth.

Billie's bio father was Del Ostrander, whom was shot & killed, according to his sister that posts on HDOD. He married Connie Lou Stewart, Billie's mother. I forget all the exact dates, but it was Del Ostrander that was murdered, and he was Billie's biological father, not stepfather.

[Tamikosmom]

Eleven year old grandson was just dropped off.  He is having a getaway weekend from his three siblings with Mama and Papa.

I certain hope that stuff is going on behind the scenes within the investigation ... stuff that implies that the arrest of Shawn Adkins is imminent.

Justice for Hailey Dunn!

Good Night All

Janet
8:00 PM PT

[Titch]

Who all resides at the Walker residence and ... who had access to the computer?

1.  Christina Walker
2.  Steven Walker
3.  Brad Roberts?
4.  Tyler Adkins
5.  Shawn Adkins 

I have no idea. When I do a reverse address on 2807 Apache Drive Big Spring TX, all that comes up is Bradley Roberts.

[Titch]

Eleven year old grandson was just dropped off.  He is having a getaway weekend from his three siblings with Mama and Papa.

I certain hope that stuff is going on behind the scenes within the investigation ... stuff that implies that the arrest of Shawn Adkins is imminent.

Justice for Hailey Dunn!

Good Night All

Janet
8:00 PM PT

Have a great weekend with you grandson, Janet!

I sure do hope an arrest is forthcoming...sooner rather than later...!

[Magnolia]

Hailey Dunn Open DiscussionBD was at the search center today. She did have a tattoo of Hailey. It wasn't paid for by donations. It was stated it was paid for by her dad (I am assuming stepfather.) and he is the one that sent her to get it. There is no link to this, it came from a very good source. You can take it as a rumor or fact, the choice is yours. (MM)


http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905#!/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905

I thought her step father was killed - shot while in the front doorway.     

Now I'm not sure, but I thought that it was Mr. Ostrander that was shot and died
several days later.  I think he was Billie real father, though not married to Connie
Stewart at the time of Billie's birth.

Billie's bio father was Del Ostrander, whom was shot & killed, according to his sister that posts on HDOD. He married Connie Lou Stewart, Billie's mother. I forget all the exact dates, but it was Del Ostrander that was murdered, and he was Billie's biological father, not stepfather.

That is how I remembered it too, Titch.  I am not sure that Billie has a stepfather.
When she was arrested recently, she was listed as Connie Ostrander on the police blotter.

[Titch]

That's what I thought, too, magnolia. I have no idea if Connie remarried or what. Sometimes people are with somebody for such a long time, but never married, yet they say husband and wife. maybe it's one of those deals...but is there a man in Connie's life that we know of? I'm not sure, didn;t pay as much attention to that...

Whatchu think?

[Magnolia]

That's what I thought, too, magnolia. I have no idea if Connie remarried or what. Sometimes people are with somebody for such a long time, but never married, yet they say husband and wife. maybe it's one of those deals...but is there a man in Connie's life that we know of? I'm not sure, didn;t pay as much attention to that...

Whatchu think?

There was a marriage license issued to Connie Lou Stewart and Brian Glasco,
Clint's half brother.  But I don't think the marriage ever took place.
It is all confusing.  They are all intermingled.

[starwynn]

Yep, exactly.

Have to say something positive, though...

Whomever did the tatt did a great job, Hailey looks cute & just like her pictures! Ron's tatt of HaLeigh Cummings made her look like the Cowardly Lion and I was po'd whomever did it did such a horrible job! HaLeigh is/was a beautiful darling lil girl!

This is true; those things can go so horribly wrong, portrait tattoos.

[Titch]

Cappuccino - When ya coming back? How's that lip?

Wanted to say something. We were talking the other night on chat in reference to the police showing Billie the child porn (as well as bestiality & the other porn). I said no way would le show her that stuff, unless she was in it or it was used to identify Hailey. Billie obviously informed they did indeed show some images to her. I apologize for being wrong, but I still can't believe it. Not that it's hard for me to accept, but that it's unacceptable for le to show her images first of all from somebody else's computer - which is what Billie alluded to...right? Didn't she say on her BTHN interview that they showed her some kiddie porn pics from the computer? Why would they show her pics from somebody else's computer? I'm wondering if that computer was at Billie's house prior or something bc how could they legally show her evidence that came from somebody else's residence? Remember, it was admitted into evidence on the 5th of Jan, right after Christina called CCity PD to let them know she was on her way to pick it up, since the pd had it since dec 30th when her husband Steven handed it to them from their Apache Drive residence. Then she proceeds to say they showed her stuff that was on the "thumb drive", stuff of her as well as other women from the net, Shawn, etc. My cousin told me that under no circumstances, unless Billie's picture was on that computer taken from Christina's house, or Hailey's picture was on it in some form, then no way should le have shown Billie what was evidentiary data confiscated from another residence other than her's. I am also informed that even the portable drive containing questionable stuff would have to be handled delicately, especially considering legal issues soon to ensue...let alone allowing her to view child porn, if in fact it was on there. Not too sure now. I'll have to look up case study law in that area of child crimes.

Which brings me to something else... Why do you think she keeps on saying Thumb Drive when it's listed as a Memory Stick (that certain model is a flash drive)? I know they're the same thing, but Billie acts like she knows nothing about computers, so why say thumb drive? Is it to distance herself from implication since different wording is used in the affidavit?

Billie makes my head spin like I'm in an exorcism or something. How 'bout u?

[texasmom]

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9287.msg1290427#msg1290427

The Apache Drive address is in Titch's post here.

Shawn's mom..

It matches the address that corresponds to one of the phone numbers in the Craigs List ad.

http://www.whitepages.com/search/Replay?lower=1&more_info=1&search_id=14031383185406850659&search_type=reversephone

YEP - reverse address comes up with the same name on Apache as the reverse phone listing has

2807 Apache Drive, Big Spring, Texas (mom's house)

Klaas, check it out...



http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9287.msg1290427#msg1290427
1804 Chestnut Street, Colorado City, TX (Billie Dunn's house)
37 W St, Snyder, TX 79549 (Weaver Services Inc)
2807 Apache Drive, Big Spring, Texas (Shawn's mom's house)



http://www.411.com/search/ReverseAddress?street=2807+Apache+Drive&where=Big+Spring%2C+TX
Bradley Roberts
2807 Apache Dr
Big Spring, TX 79720-6306



http://odessa.craigslist.org/boa/2229248721.html
Odessa Craigslist Listing
2005 Bayliner - $8000 (Big Spring, TX)
Date: 2011-02-22, 6:31PM CST
Reply to: sale-teczz-2229248721@craigslist.org
Boat for Sale
2005 Bayliner
17 ½ Ft.
Inboard/Outboard
135 HP
Approx. 160 Engine Hours
Floor Storage
Stereo
$8,000
432xxx-xxxx Edit out ph #'s MB
432xxx-xxxx Edit out ph #'s MB
Trailer included
Location: Big Spring, TX
it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
PostingID: 2229248721
Picures of the boat:











http://media.reporternews.com/media/static/0113_001.pdf
Refer to pages 5 (past paragraph) & 6 (first paragraph)
Car affidavit informs Christina's husband is Steven Walker. They live at 2807 Apache Drive, Big Spring, TX.
For your convenience, it's also the first affidavit that I posted in the Docs thread, this link (screen caps pics for easier viewing & less download time):
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9331.msg1290374#msg1290374



Well who is Brad Roberts, the person who's phone # and boat is linked to the same address as Christina? I did a search on Brad Roberts Big Spring Texas and found this - please note I have no idea how old this Reunion info is:

http://www.reunion.com/bradroberts/
Snipped:
Brad Roberts
Age 39
View Details
Big Spring High School ' 89
Big Spring, TX
Blog About My Personal Life I am living in Big Spring and working as a plant engineer at Sid Richardson Carbon Black Co. I graduated from Texas Tech and have been married for 2 years.



Ok, now here's one search result on 411 reverse phone search from the first # shown on the craiglist ad, it returned 3 results (Note - his work is listed as 2807 Apache):

http://www.411.com/search/ReversePhone?full_phone=432-xxx-xxx Edit out ph. #'s MB
Bradley Roberts

 2807 Apache Dr Big Spring, TX Job: Bradley Roberts, Principal 1
Bradley W Roberts

 2300 Edgemere Rd Big Spring, TX Age: 35-39
Associated people: Joey D Roberts 2
Joey D Roberts

 2300 Edgemere Rd Big Spring, TX Age: 30-34
Associated people: Bradley W Roberts



The second tele # given on the craigslist ad comes up as a cell #, so no need to post it.



Google search of Sid Richardson Carbon Black Co:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=Sid+Richardson+Carbon+Black+Co&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=



So, question is this: How is this guy connected to Christina & Steven Walker's address? If it's an old address, and he's since moved, then why is he selling a boat from that address? His work # shows up at the same address as 2807 Apache drive. Does he live there, or someplace else? How ironic that a boat should be sold from that exact address, the same address Shawn's mother lives at and the same address a computer was taken from - as per the affidavit Christina gave permission to le, they came to the house & Steven Walker (Christina's husband) handed it over to them. Who is this guy, is he related, just a friend, etc. So, hmmmf...
Edit-Please don't post personal phone numbers on the forum.  MB

Thanks Titch, I'd wondered the same when I was looking at the information last night.

I went back to the video of Shawn in the boat, and I don't think it's the same boat.  JMO

This is one comparison, imo the boat in the video of Shawn is older.

[Titch]

That's what I thought, too, magnolia. I have no idea if Connie remarried or what. Sometimes people are with somebody for such a long time, but never married, yet they say husband and wife. maybe it's one of those deals...but is there a man in Connie's life that we know of? I'm not sure, didn;t pay as much attention to that...

Whatchu think?

There was a marriage license issued to Connie Lou Stewart and Brian Glasco,
Clint's half brother.  But I don't think the marriage ever took place.
It is all confusing.  They are all intermingled.

Magnolia, Connie Lou is Billie's mom. The one that was married to Brian is Cindy. Here's the marriage license & link:

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~txscurry/vitals/GroomFG.htm

(066158) GLASCO BRIAN K 25 - STEWART CINDY L 29 - 6/12/1995

[Titch]

Thanks texasmom! Yep, it was older!

Dontcha just love teamwork? See why I love it here so much?

[Titch]

I've seen a lot of henna done on hands and etc., and know what that looks like, but I was just looking at at google images "temporary henna tatoos".  I haven't really asked anyone if their tat was temporary or not, and I wouldn't know how they might look in comparison with other stuff, just a thought.  And of course, one could go to google and research temporary henna tatoos, which I did.  I saw all kinds of stuff...

http://www.tattoo-me.com/
http://www.amazon.com/Henna-Tattoos-Temporary-Anna-Pomaska/dp/0486416461

 

Yeah, I think I'm going to have to call b.s. on that tat being temporary and henna.  Every henna tattoo I have ever even heard of is just linear, not shading.  Hmmm I think I might run that picture by a friend of mine who has tattoos and get her take on it.

Here's a link to a google image search with main words being "black & white henna portrait tattoos". Looks like some that are actually from henna can have shading in the portraits as well as color. I don't have any tattoos, don't really know that much about them except so many people in my family have them, so I had to look it up. I do know that every year we go to Disney & my sons get these henna tatts on their backs or upper arms...nothing elaborate, though, but those celtic bands, etc.

I forgot to supply the link:
http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&source=imghp&q=black+%26+white+henna+portrait+tattoos&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=

[Titch]

Trying to keep my eyes open but I'm a lost cause right now...too tired, plus I have a busy day tomorrow with my youngest.

Goodnight Starwyn and guests. Sweet dreams...

 

[starwynn]

Trying to keep my eyes open but I'm a lost cause right now...too tired, plus I have a busy day tomorrow with my youngest.

Goodnight Starwyn and guests. Sweet dreams...

 

Me, too, Titch.  I am tired.  Search day tomorrow for the searchers; let's hope it's a good day.

[texasmom]

Thanks texasmom! Yep, it was older!

Dontcha just love teamwork? See why I love it here so much?

YW Titch!   

I haven't gone back and listened to the caller again, but iirc he said the ad was placed a few days after Hailey disappeared.  The ad that we've posted about is from February, so I'm wondering if there was another "earlier" ad...another boat?  It's just another thing I've been wondering about, lol.

I tried some last night but wasn't able to come up with one from Dec or Jan.

[Cappuccino]

Cappuccino - When ya coming back? How's that lip?

Wanted to say something. We were talking the other night on chat in reference to the police showing Billie the child porn (as well as bestiality & the other porn). I said no way would le show her that stuff, unless she was in it or it was used to identify Hailey. Billie obviously informed they did indeed show some images to her. I apologize for being wrong, but I still can't believe it. Not that it's hard for me to accept, but that it's unacceptable for le to show her images first of all from somebody else's computer - which is what Billie alluded to...right? Didn't she say on her BTHN interview that they showed her some kiddie porn pics from the computer? Why would they show her pics from somebody else's computer? I'm wondering if that computer was at Billie's house prior or something bc how could they legally show her evidence that came from somebody else's residence? Remember, it was admitted into evidence on the 5th of Jan, right after Christina called CCity PD to let them know she was on her way to pick it up, since the pd had it since dec 30th when her husband Steven handed it to them from their Apache Drive residence. Then she proceeds to say they showed her stuff that was on the "thumb drive", stuff of her as well as other women from the net, Shawn, etc. My cousin told me that under no circumstances, unless Billie's picture was on that computer taken from Christina's house, or Hailey's picture was on it in some form, then no way should le have shown Billie what was evidentiary data confiscated from another residence other than her's. I am also informed that even the portable drive containing questionable stuff would have to be handled delicately, especially considering legal issues soon to ensue...let alone allowing her to view child porn, if in fact it was on there. Not too sure now. I'll have to look up case study law in that area of child crimes.

Which brings me to something else... Why do you think she keeps on saying Thumb Drive when it's listed as a Memory Stick (that certain model is a flash drive)? I know they're the same thing, but Billie acts like she knows nothing about computers, so why say thumb drive? Is it to distance herself from implication since different wording is used in the affidavit?

Billie makes my head spin like I'm in an exorcism or something. How 'bout u?

Lip is a bit sore but pain subsiding, my shoulder is in agony & difficult to lift from the tetanus shot but Im trying to grin and bear it as best as I can, tks for asking.

You're right Billie seems to be using different terms on purpose, what she thinks that is going to do for her I'm not sure.  I tend to believe that there is another electronic device but I could be wrong.  I also think there was another computer involved that once was at Billie's & she has direct knowledge of it but was not recovered (gut instinct).   It is also now my opinion that Billie did not see images other than what was depicted of herself with LE but she knows what was on them.   I do not believe it was only Shawn that told her afterwards what was on the memory stick or the computer.  Billie also went thru the bother of saying it was in Shawn's dresser not hers to distance herself, but something tells me Shawn did not have his own separate dresser at her home...bottom line the memory stick was still found in her home.   I agree, I believe that computer was at Billie's home at some point and moved back to his mother's.  Also, considering what was found on it & where the computer was I find it curious as to why Shawn & Billie are so quick to say that other individuals used that computer...in essence that seems to indicate that they are implicating other family members.   I mean, really what other individuals would be on a computer at Shawn's mother's home, right?  Shawn actually stated that up to 10 other individuals could have been on that computer, that seems to be a rather significant exaggeration in attempt to clear himself in the court of public opinion...it just seems to be too much deflection to be credible.

I'd be curious what Clint would be able to tell us was in his home (technically it is still his home) prior to Billie hooking up with Shawn during their marriage before he left.  It doesnt escape me that Billie met Shawn on line & something tells me that she didnt communicate with him on line just at work.   If I were Clint I would kick Billie to the curb from that home, his children are not residing there & the deed is in his name.   By all accounts, she only made one payment on the house, the last one...Id like to see what the facts are on paper.