Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #857 3/20/11 - 4/20/11

[klaasend]

Philip

http://www.myspace.com/pmerryweather



They have a boat:




Expensive cars:

[Tamikosmom]

Lawyer Bram Moszkowicz is investigating whether he can take Joran van der Sloot to court in a civil case.
6 March 2008

HILVERSUM - Lawyer Bram Moszkowicz is investigating whether he can take Joran van der Sloot to court in a civil case.

On the television programme Pauw en Witteman on Wednesday he said there was a n "85 to 90 percent chance" that he can file for damages on behalf of Beth Twitty, the mother of missing American teenager Natalee Holloway.

Moszkowicz says Van der Sloot caused the mother damage by not telling Aruban officials information contained in the confessions he made about the disappearance on hidden camera footage taken by crime reporter Peter R. de.

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The famous lawyer said he though it remarkable that Van der Sloot had not been taken into custody. "The examining judge that held him earlier without a confession now says a confession isn't enough to hold him," Moszkowicz said.

He says Van der Sloot's statements can be deemed a confession "without a doubt."

http://www.expatica.com/nl/news/local_news/Moszkowicz-investigates-damages-claim-against-Van-der-Sloot-.html

[klaasend]

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/10/01/john-merryweather-at-no-moment-did-i-defend-joran-vd-sloot-or-the-kalpoe-brothers/

John Merryweather: At no moment did I defend Joran van der Sloot or the Kalpoe brothers
 (Edit Post)

From Diario:

ORANJESTAD(AAN) — Related to a press release yesterday “Merryweather wants to challenge Natalee’s mom?”, Mr. John Merryweather reacted yesterday by indicating that the contents of much of that article was based on the misinterpretation of his thoughts and that he will contest it.

He starts by explaining that in the first place, it goes without saying that he prays for the Twitty and Holloway families. “At this time, we also pray for Aruba because it is due to the Twitty family, who has asked for a boycott of tourism to Aruba, against citizens who have nothing to do with what happened to Natalee, sadly she was last seen on her trip to Aruba.

For the rest of the translated story go to Aruba Getagrip.

http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/2005/09/john-merryweather-at-no-moment-did-i.html

[Tamikosmom]

The Speech

CNN LIVE TODAY
Missing in Aruba
Aired July 5, 2005 - 10:00   ET

<snipped>

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY’S MOTHER: It is now that I ask the world to help me. Two suspects were released yesterday who were involved in a violent crime against my daughter. These criminals are not only allowed to walk freely among the tourists and citizens of Aruba, but there are no limits where they may choose to travel.
I am asking all mothers and fathers and all nations to hear my plea. I implore you, do not allow these two suspects, the Kalpoe brothers, to enter your country until this case is solved. Do not allow these criminals to walk among your citizens. Help me by not allowing these two to get away with this crime.

It is my greatest fear today that the Kalpoe brothers will leave Aruba. I am asking the Aruban officials to notify the United States State Department in the event these suspects try to leave this island. I am asking all nations not to offer them a safe haven. I am asking this in the name of my beautiful, intelligent and outstanding daughter who I haven’t seen for 36 days and for whom I will continue to search until I find her.

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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0507/05/lt.03.html


The Fallout

Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway

Exerpt

Page 157/158: No one is breathing. Or Moving. Reporters and camera people are crying. The media hve been here more than a month, and they’ve seen firsthand what we’ve experienced. They are moved by this plea. But some of the Arubans are not. Calling their local sons “criminals” offends them. Having just heard the prosecuting attorney tell us at least one of the Kalpoes could be involved in whatever happened to my daughter. I felt the term seemed appropriate. But it led to an abrupt change in the tide of support.
… Not long after the “criminals speech,” some Arubans back off their prayer vigils for Natalee. A few protest in the streets against the barage of negative media. We’ve worn out our welcome at the Holiday Inn. And they let us know they’ve had it. The Aruban Tourism Authority (ATA), the Aruba Hotel and Tourism Association (AHATA), the Aruba Trade and Industry Association and a scattering of island officials establish the Strategic Communications Task Force to combat the negative media. And to combat us.


Some Arubans angry at Holloway’s mom
Calling brothers ‘criminals’ elicits resentment, statement from lawyer
updated 6:56 p.m. PT, Wed., July. 6, 2005

ORANJESTAD, Aruba - A latent but growing resentment here became evident for the first time when more than 200 people, some wrapped in Aruban flags, said they were incensed by statements made by the mother of missing American teen Natalee Holloway.

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8484217


The Apology

Missing teen's mom apologizes for comments
Statements 'fueled by despair'
Friday, July 8, 2005; Posted: 6:41 p.m. EDT (22:41 GMT)
 
ORANJESTAD, Aruba (CNN) — The mother of Natalee Holloway apologized Friday for saying two released suspects were involved in her daughter’s disappearance.

“The statements I made on July 5th were fueled by despair and frustration because of still not knowing where my daughter is,” Beth Holloway Twitty said in a statement to the media. “I think everyone, everyone can sympathize with that.”

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http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/07/08/missing.aruba/index.html

BUMPED

[Tamikosmom]

John Merryweather

'Scarborough Country' for July 6
updated 7/7/2005 11:11:45 AM ET

<snipped>

JOE SCARBOROUGH, HOST: Mr. Merryweather, thank you so much for being with us tonight.  Tell us, why were you involved in that protest?  What do you think that Natalee's mother did wrong? 

JOHN MERRYWEATHER, FORMER ARUBA DIPLOMAT:  Well, first—no, no, first of all, I'd like to answer why I was at the—not protest.  It was a gathering in support of our justice system.  It was not a protest.  It never started out as a protest either.  I would like that to be very, very clear. 

When I was there, I hadn't heard what the comments of Natalee's mother either of the day.  I was asked that after I was there.  I went there.  I was not part of the organization, but I went there in support of our justice system. 

(CROSSTALK)

SCARBOROUGH:  What did she say that was wrong?  What did Natalee's mother say that was...

(CROSSTALK)

SCARBOROUGH:  No, what did Natalee's mother say that offended so many people in Aruba? 

MERRYWEATHER:  Well, you know, it—it—it offended me, also.  You cannot—these two boys, I don't know them.  I don't know the parents.  I don't know anyone involved in this personally. 

But our justice system, as yours in the states, you are innocent until proven guilty.  This system of ours, whether you agree with it or not, whether you understand it or not, allows these people to be free at this moment, but they are not free of charges.  They have not been exonerated from this case. 

They have not been found innocent.  They are witnesses.  And they can be called upon at any time. 

(CROSSTALK)

SCARBOROUGH:  OK, Mr. Merryweather, that is fair enough.  I mean, that is a fair enough point.  You're innocent until proven guilty. 

Can you understand, though...

MERRYWEATHER:  Yes. 

SCARBOROUGH:  ... why Natalee's mother and why a lot of Americans are upset by the fact that the three key suspects, the last people seen alive with Natalee, they were released for 11 days, allowed to get the stories straight, allowed to clean up the car, allowed to clean up their homes, and then these two Kalpoe boys that were released why, they lied to the police.  They changed tear stories two or three times.

MERRYWEATHER:  Yes. 

SCARBOROUGH:  And now they are walking the island.  Can you not understand why some Americans are scratching their heads, saying what in the heck is going on in Aruba? 

MERRYWEATHER:  You know, first of all, this is not the United States.  This—we are governed here also by Dutch law, Aruban law that is years and years older than the United States.  And the Dutch law has proven itself over the years. 

It is just the law of the land that we all have to abide by.  I sympathize very, very much with Natalee's parents and family.  We here in Aruba, I personally, my family, if we could go out and we could find the solution to this tonight, we would do it, because it is not only having an effect on them.  It's having an effect on the whole community. 

This is a small island and everybody is involved here and everybody is just as frustrated in another way maybe.  But we want also—we want to have closure.  And we would rather have closure that Natalee be found alive safe and well and go back to the states, but, in any event, closure, because this is disrupting the island totally. 

(CROSSTALK)

SCARBOROUGH:  I'm sure it is, Mr. Merryweather.

One final question.  Maybe you can educate it, because you say Dutch law is older than American law. 

MERRYWEATHER:  That's right. 

SCARBOROUGH:  So, maybe you can educate us and help us understand why you would have the three key suspects, the three guys last seen with Natalee Holloway the night she disappeared, walk the island free for 11 days. 

Explain how the maturity of Dutch law allows that to happen in a way that we Americans with our—gee, it's only 220 years old—and the American legal system doesn't understand it? 

MERRYWEATHER:  Well, I didn't mean that as an insult either or a gibe. 

(CROSSTALK)

SCARBOROUGH:  No, no, no.  I am just trying to figure out, though, why do you let them walk for 11 days?

(CROSSTALK)

MERRYWEATHER:  That—only the people involved in the investigation and, in accordance with the , can tell you, they have to present evidence to the courts to be held to begin with. 

And each time, they have an extension.  And at a certain moment, if there is no more evidence, no more new evidence to hold them, they have to be let free until such time—when I say let free, they are not free of the case.  They are not free of the case. 

SCARBOROUGH:  Right. 

MERRYWEATHER:  They are still part of the case. 

(CROSSTALK)

SCARBOROUGH:  They are still possible suspects, what you are saying, but they still may—they may be suspects, even though they are walking. 

(CROSSTALK)

MERRYWEATHER:  Yes. 

Look, even if—there is an appeal.  The—the—the—the Justice Department appeals them walking free.  This now comes in front of three judges.  And I understand it may be as soon as Friday. 

(CROSSTALK)

SCARBOROUGH:  All right, thank you so much, Mr. Merryweather.  We greatly appreciate it. 

(CROSSTALK)

SCARBOROUGH:  If the three judges find there's justification, they walk or they may go back in.             

MERRYWEATHER:  If the three judges find justification, they will go right straight back to jail. 

SCARBOROUGH:  All right, thank you so much, Mr. Merryweather.  We know you live on a great island.  Everybody has called Aruba the happy island.  I have got friends that have visited there, say it is very safe.  It's a wonderful place.  That is why I'm so hurt and why a lot of Americans are hurt that we don't think we are getting the answers that we deserve.

<snipped>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8498049/

BUMPED

[texasmom]

Francine and Herbert Merryweather

(from Herbie and Carolina's wedding in June of last year)

www.facebook.com

[Magnolia]

I believe it was probably that old man John Merryweather who got the boys
started in the money laundering business.
He is a wicked old man.

[texasmom]

I believe it was probably that old man John Merryweather who got the boys
started in the money laundering business.
He is a wicked old man.

Wouldn't surprise me...and I bet he was a wicked young man too.   

[Magnolia]

I believe it was probably that old man John Merryweather who got the boys
started in the money laundering business.
He is a wicked old man.

Wouldn't surprise me...and I bet he was a wicked young man too.   

No doubt about it!  IMO

[Magnolia]

Francine and Herbert Merryweather

(from Herbie and Carolina's wedding in June of last year)

www.facebook.com

Francine does look quite lovely in the wedding pictures.

[texasmom]

Francine and Herbert Merryweather

(from Herbie and Carolina's wedding in June of last year)

www.facebook.com

Francine does look quite lovely in the wedding pictures.

Yes she does, I thought it was interesting that I never saw John Merryweather in any of the wedding pictures...and I looked at hundreds of them.

[klaasend]

http://www.xtal.info/merryweather/data/mer2688.html

Notes for John William Merryweather:

    Name: John William Merryweather 
    Born: May 30, 1932 pos, Aruba


Auther A pictorial résumé of natural, historical and cultural monuments
of Aruba / by John W. Merryweather. - Aruba : De Wit Stores, 1972. - 56
p. : ill. ; 25 cm.
Merryweather's in Aruba 2004
MERRYWEATHER DEBORAH LYNN HUBADASTRAAT 26
MERRYWEATHER ELIZABETH MARIE BYRONSTRAAT 9
MERRYWEATHER EVELINE CLOTHILDE ADRIAAN LACLE BLVD. 6
MERRYWEATHER HERBERT SYDNEY ALTO VISTA 116
MERRYWEATHER JOHN WILLIAM BUBALI 113-C
MERRYWEATHER-DE LANNOY FRANCINE MARIE JEANETTE ALTO VISTA 116
During WWII, John Merryweather was sent to an expensive boarding school
in Jamaica. In 1986 John Merryweather was nominated as a minister to
represent Aruba in Holland. He was responsible for the students of Aruba
living in Holland, and he was the contact person for all the economic
affairs. for 3 1/2 years John Merryweather was director of the national
Fund Sports for handicapped people. John Merryweather received twice the
"Order van Oranje" (A recognition by Queen Beatrix for being an
outstanding citizen.)
John Merryweather was married to Oncha Arends and got 4 daughters and one
son (Herbert My dad) and got divorced shortly after there last one was
born.
After the divorce John Merryweather (My grand father). got married with a
john girl named Stella and got 1 son called Mickeljohn. in Aruba there is
only 5 real Merryweather,s and all have a lot of things in common. there
is Sidney Merryweather which is my cousin son of one of the daughters of
John in his 1st marage. Herbert (my dad) and Herbert (my brother) and I
(Philip).
Source=Philip Conrad Merryweather

[IBE]

Klaas,

OT Found you. So glad. Donna's father sent me this link:
http://murphymilanojournal.blogspot.com/2011/04/donna-jou-case-lessor-of-two-evils.html

Why does it have scaredmonkeysradio.com listed? and where can I find the Donna Jou's thread? Help TIA Love, IBE


I put the post in the Donna Jou thread = San
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1337.new#new

[texasmom]

http://www.xtal.info/merryweather/data/mer2688.html

Notes for John William Merryweather:

    Name: John William Merryweather 
    Born: May 30, 1932 pos, Aruba


Auther A pictorial résumé of natural, historical and cultural monuments
of Aruba / by John W. Merryweather. - Aruba : De Wit Stores, 1972. - 56
p. : ill. ; 25 cm.
Merryweather's in Aruba 2004
MERRYWEATHER DEBORAH LYNN HUBADASTRAAT 26
MERRYWEATHER ELIZABETH MARIE BYRONSTRAAT 9
MERRYWEATHER EVELINE CLOTHILDE ADRIAAN LACLE BLVD. 6
MERRYWEATHER HERBERT SYDNEY ALTO VISTA 116
MERRYWEATHER JOHN WILLIAM BUBALI 113-C
MERRYWEATHER-DE LANNOY FRANCINE MARIE JEANETTE ALTO VISTA 116
During WWII, John Merryweather was sent to an expensive boarding school
in Jamaica. In 1986 John Merryweather was nominated as a minister to
represent Aruba in Holland. He was responsible for the students of Aruba
living in Holland, and he was the contact person for all the economic
affairs. for 3 1/2 years John Merryweather was director of the national
Fund Sports for handicapped people. John Merryweather received twice the
"Order van Oranje" (A recognition by Queen Beatrix for being an
outstanding citizen.)
John Merryweather was married to Oncha Arends and got 4 daughters and one
son (Herbert My dad) and got divorced shortly after there last one was
born.
After the divorce John Merryweather (My grand father). got married with a
john girl named Stella and got 1 son called Mickeljohn. in Aruba there is
only 5 real Merryweather,s and all have a lot of things in common. there
is Sidney Merryweather which is my cousin son of one of the daughters of
John in his 1st marage. Herbert (my dad) and Herbert (my brother) and I
(Philip).
Source=Philip Conrad Merryweather

http://beeldbank.nationaalarchief.nl/nl/afbeeldingen/indeling/detail/start/66652/trefwoord/Serie_Collectie/Fotocollectie%20Anefo



Description Prime Minister Plenipotentiary of Aruba, John Merry Weather at Schiphol
Date January 23, 1986

[Magnolia]

http://www.xtal.info/merryweather/data/mer2688.html

Notes for John William Merryweather:

    Name: John William Merryweather 
    Born: May 30, 1932 pos, Aruba


Auther A pictorial résumé of natural, historical and cultural monuments
of Aruba / by John W. Merryweather. - Aruba : De Wit Stores, 1972. - 56
p. : ill. ; 25 cm.
Merryweather's in Aruba 2004
MERRYWEATHER DEBORAH LYNN HUBADASTRAAT 26
MERRYWEATHER ELIZABETH MARIE BYRONSTRAAT 9
MERRYWEATHER EVELINE CLOTHILDE ADRIAAN LACLE BLVD. 6
MERRYWEATHER HERBERT SYDNEY ALTO VISTA 116
MERRYWEATHER JOHN WILLIAM BUBALI 113-C
MERRYWEATHER-DE LANNOY FRANCINE MARIE JEANETTE ALTO VISTA 116
During WWII, John Merryweather was sent to an expensive boarding school
in Jamaica. In 1986 John Merryweather was nominated as a minister to
represent Aruba in Holland. He was responsible for the students of Aruba
living in Holland, and he was the contact person for all the economic
affairs. for 3 1/2 years John Merryweather was director of the national
Fund Sports for handicapped people. John Merryweather received twice the
"Order van Oranje" (A recognition by Queen Beatrix for being an
outstanding citizen.)
John Merryweather was married to Oncha Arends and got 4 daughters and one
son (Herbert My dad) and got divorced shortly after there last one was
born.
After the divorce John Merryweather (My grand father). got married with a
john girl named Stella and got 1 son called Mickeljohn. in Aruba there is
only 5 real Merryweather,s and all have a lot of things in common. there
is Sidney Merryweather which is my cousin son of one of the daughters of
John in his 1st marage. Herbert (my dad) and Herbert (my brother) and I
(Philip).
Source=Philip Conrad Merryweather

Did San write this resume? 

Notes for John William Merryweather:

    Name: John William Merryweather 
    Born: May 30, 1932 pos, Aruba   

[texasmom]

 

[IBE]

Re: picture of expensive car

Doesn't looks as if it was taken in Aruba. Looks GA or VA to me.

[Magnolia]

Francine and Herbert Merryweather

(from Herbie and Carolina's wedding in June of last year)

www.facebook.com

Francine does look quite lovely in the wedding pictures.

Yes she does, I thought it was interesting that I never saw John Merryweather in any of the wedding pictures...and I looked at hundreds of them.

Have you seen him anywhere else?  Maybe he has had a stroke or something and they
put hin in a home.

[texasmom]

Francine and Herbert Merryweather

(from Herbie and Carolina's wedding in June of last year)

www.facebook.com

Francine does look quite lovely in the wedding pictures.

Yes she does, I thought it was interesting that I never saw John Merryweather in any of the wedding pictures...and I looked at hundreds of them.

Have you seen him anywhere else?  Maybe he has had a stroke or something and they
put hin in a home.

He's been in the news lately sitting beside Jan van der Straten, even admitting he had an addiction himself in the past...now he's the president of the new National Drug Council in Aruba!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9215.msg1317261#msg1317261

[texasmom]

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE,

AND STEPHANY!