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« Reply #580 on: April 06, 2011, 09:24:50 PM »

Thanks Klaas.

I am really anticipating April 11th.  Only more sleeps!!!

 

Janet, Monday is April 11.  We should hear about the judge's decision by this Friday.
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« Reply #581 on: April 06, 2011, 09:41:47 PM »

Dr. Phil team opposition to opposition to Summary Judgement - INTRODUCTION:




Thank you Klaas and anonymous monkey!   

Plaintiffs sued the police?
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« Reply #582 on: April 06, 2011, 09:44:49 PM »

Thanks Klaas.

I am really anticipating April 11th.  Only five more sleeps!!!

 

Janet, Monday is April 11.  We should hear about the judge's decision by this Friday.

There is something I am not getting.  Story of my life.

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Janet - the hearing for the Summary Judgement is scheduled for April 11, 2011. 

Case Number: BC363201
DEEPAK KALPOE VS PHILLIP C MCGRAW

Filing Date: 12/13/2006
Case Type: Defamation (Slander/Libel) (General Jurisdiction)
Status: Pending

Future Hearings

04/11/2011 at 08:32 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Motion for Summary Judgment

If the judge rules NO on the Summary Judgement then the trial begins on June 13, 2011

06/06/2011 at 08:32 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Final Status Conference (T/D 6-13-2011)

06/13/2011 at 08:32 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Jury Trial (J/T 35 DAY EST.)
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« Reply #583 on: April 06, 2011, 10:11:12 PM »

Janet - you are right.  The hearing is Monday the 11th so we won't know what the decision is until sometime after unless it hits the NEWS.
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« Reply #584 on: April 06, 2011, 10:14:41 PM »

Thanks Klaas

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« Reply #585 on: April 06, 2011, 10:17:05 PM »

But IF the judge rules in favor of the defendants on Monday, I imagine it will be all over the news.  Actually, whatever the decision will probably make the news.  So we may know as soon as Monday what the decision is.
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« Reply #586 on: April 06, 2011, 11:07:22 PM »

But IF the judge rules in favor of the defendants on Monday, I imagine it will be all over the news.  Actually, whatever the decision will probably make the news.  So we may know as soon as Monday what the decision is.

If the defamation lawsuit is thrown out ... is disclosure of all financial backers a legal possibility.  There is no way Phil McGraw can be reinbursed from the Kalpoes for the huge costs incurred defending this lawsuit.

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Is Dr. Phil Winning or Losing the Natalee Holloway Case Battle?
Mar 16, 2011 – 4:09 PM


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Babcock said he expects that the lawsuit against Dr. Phil will ultimately be "thrown out." He also said he suspects there is more to the suit than meets the eye.

"I will tell you what is going on here, which is just crystal clear if you know how lawsuits work: This is being funded by somebody other than these two guys. Dr. Phil called for a boycott of Aruba, and this is being supported by the Aruban tourism industry and maybe some hotels, some casinos, maybe the government itself," Babcock alleged. "But these guys are spending millions of dollars [on] this case, so this isn't two young guys perusing a claim. This is guys with larger backing."

The Aruba Tourism Authority told AOL News that it is "not involved financially or otherwise in this lawsuit."

The Chicago law firm representing the Kalpoe brothers did not immediately return calls for comment.

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/03/16/is-dr-phil-winning-or-losing-the-natalee-holloway-case-battle/
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« Reply #587 on: April 07, 2011, 12:24:48 AM »

http://www.bondia.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6570&Itemid=1

Papiamentu translation:

doctor owing to comete error y one lady young is lose his life

tuesday, 05 april 2011

oranjestad-

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one lady young of barely 42 year, owing to come fayece in dr horacio oduber hospitaal, not owing to consecuencia of one ailment or accidente, but by of damage barbaro cometi for his ginecologo.informacionnan extra oficial ricibi is show cu the lady young here j.l. of 42 year, owing to bay his specialista for curateer but during of the proceso here, past owing to become more bad, achieve one infeccion earnest y fayece owing to consecuencia of this. result of autopsia owing to confirma cu the lady young here owing to lose his life for motibo cu the doctor envolvi, during of the proceso of curateer, the specialista owing to bore his intestines y his baarmoeder, without cu past owing to notice this, thing owing to place cu the madam owing to come achieve one infeccion pisa cu diadomingo owing to come cost’e his life. is arise the question now of kico is bay happen in one caso so y if autoridadnan is bay actua for investiga his is existi one posibilidad for persecucion penal contra of the doctor concerni. dead of the lady young here owing to cause one impacto serious, not only in the lady his seno familiar, but in all comunidad already cu genuinely not was necesario for her lady here lose his life, if not was have negligencia medico. kico is bay happen now y that is bay give ordo for let investiga the caso here for of the form here also, the famianan busca the husticia cu they're believe they have derecho upstairs. have to existi one posibilidad for ministerio publico also atende the type of casonan here, y not stay stop one near, permiti the abusonan medico here follow they curso, without brinda the victimanan, the derecho of complain one doctor in momentonan so.
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« Reply #588 on: April 07, 2011, 12:48:37 AM »

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JUSTICE FOR NATALEE,


AND STEPHANY!

 


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« Reply #589 on: April 07, 2011, 12:50:39 AM »

Please light a candle and say a prayer for Natalee and her family. 
 
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http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5700.msg878415#msg878415
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"We won't give up on you, Natalee.  You didn't give up on us, and we will continue with the investigation until we have all of the answers to your disappearance.  God be with you my Natalee!" Dave Holloway ARUBA
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« Reply #590 on: April 07, 2011, 03:20:12 AM »

Who says the Monkey's don't have connections..


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« Reply #591 on: April 07, 2011, 09:51:01 AM »

YW Can.  I'm trying to post what I can but a lot of it is not worth posting.  There were 4 documents available this afternoon and I got all 4.  I'll continue to post excerpts of them as time allows.

That's great Klaas.   an angelic monkey

...and you're right about dirt bags too! 
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« Reply #592 on: April 07, 2011, 09:55:41 AM »

Please light a candle and say a prayer for Natalee and her family. 
 
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Thanks texasmom.   an angelic monkey

2NJ would be pleased to see you looking after this, as she did so faithfully for so long.  Thank you.

God bless Natalee, Stefany, 2NJ and their families.   an angelic monkey
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« Reply #593 on: April 07, 2011, 09:59:35 AM »

YW Can.  I'm trying to post what I can but a lot of it is not worth posting.  There were 4 documents available this afternoon and I got all 4.  I'll continue to post excerpts of them as time allows.


I think I really like Babcock and the rest of the Dr. Phil lawyers!

Thanks, Klaas and anon monkey.

I like Babcock and the rest of Dr. Phil's lawyers too Magnolia!   
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Attorney Charles Babcock

Is Dr. Phil Winning or Losing the Natalee Holloway Case Battle?
Mar 16, 2011 – 4:09 PM


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"The plaintiffs had filed an ex parte motion ... and said we want to take the deposition of Beth Holloway," (Dr. Phil's Attorney Charles) Babcock said. "She wasn't one of the eight people they [had] listed as necessary for their summary judgment, so we filed an emergency paper with the court and we said we are not opposed to her deposition being taken, but we do not want this to be another excuse to continue the summary judgment hearing for the third time because we think this case will be dismissed."

Babcock added, "We specifically said in our response [that] we are not opposed to having the deposition of Natalee's mom. In fact, she is one of our best witnesses, so why would we try to block that testimony?"

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/03/16/is-dr-phil-winning-or-losing-the-natalee-holloway-case-battle/
 

Beth Holloway dragged into Dr. Phil lawsuit
Published: 3/16 7:25 am
Updated: 3/16 7:41 am


Birmingham, Al  (CBS42)  Beth Holloway will have to do a deposition in a lawsuit against talk show host Dr. Phil according to documents cited by the website TMZ.

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The lawsuit claims Beth Holloway was privy to information "surrounding the motives and production of the show."   

Lawyers for Dr. Phil and CBS say they only fought the deposition because it would slow down action on their motion to dismiss the lawsuit.  According to TMZ, the judge in the case is proceeding with both the deposition and consideration of the motion to dismiss.

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http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Beth-Holloway-dragged-into-Dr-Phil-lawsuit/jmg9Nn_al0yExRHHa--mrg.cspx


I hope the Summary Judgement that is scheduled to happen on Monday is not delayed once again.

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« Reply #595 on: April 07, 2011, 11:24:18 AM »

Beth Holloway

'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for Nov. 30th
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BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY‘S MOTHER: You know, Rita, when they use the word “manipulated,” they really need to use the word “edited.” And the tape that they‘re saying was manipulated was the one that was shown on Dr. Phil, it was edited. It was edited for television. You can‘t get a 20-second or a 6-second sound bite out of two-and-a-half hours. And you know, yes, Deepak did respond to Jamie‘s question that they all had sex with her. And he even (INAUDIBLE) You‘d be surprised how simple it was that night.

RITA COSBY, HOST: So there was nothing taken out of context, as they‘re even suggesting?

HOLLOWAY TWITTY: No, not that I could see, Rita. But you know, I know that Jamie Skeeters will have to give the information on the tapes, but I do stand by him and his validity on the tapes, Rita.

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10281941/


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DAVE HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY‘S FATHER: I listened to all of it this afternoon.

RITA COSBY, HOST:  Was anything doctored, anything manipulated? What I mean is, anything taken out of context?

HOLLOWAY: No, I don‘t believe so. I think what Dr. Phil‘s show did
was edited the tape. From what I can understand, you know, this tape has -
the air-conditioner came on about the time Deepak walked in the room, so you‘ve got a lot of snow in there. But essentially, from what I understand, he said—there was kind of a stutter after Jamie asked the question, and that stuttering part I believe was taken out of the tape. And then he said, No, we did. You‘d be surprised how easy it was that night.

COSBY: Do you believe, based on everything you‘ve heard...

HOLLOWAY: I think what the Aruban...

COSBY: Do you believe he‘s saying that they did have sex with her? Is that what you believe?

HOLLOWAY: Oh, yes. Absolutely. You can‘t have a negative and then turn around and then support it with a positive. I mean, they‘ve got to put the whole sentence together for it to make sense. If they said, No, we didn‘t, and then turn around and said, You wouldn‘t believe how simple it was, that just—that just doesn‘t make sense.

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« Reply #596 on: April 07, 2011, 01:20:48 PM »

The Second Tragedy

Beth Holloway
Oprah Radio  |  January 01, 2008


Gayle King:

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Beth says her faith has helped her through the ups and downs of the case, but she doesn't believe Natalee is alive. "What I always knew and believed was that Natalee had a strong relationship with God, and I truly felt that God cared for her through whatever ordeal she went through," Beth says.

Beth says she continues to hope that someone knows what happened to her daughter and will come forward. In the meantime, Beth says she is trying to prevent this type of tragedy from happening to others. She created the International Safe Travels Foundation, an organization dedicated to educating travelers so they can plan, travel and return home safely. "I feel as if our tragedy was losing Natalee, and I truly feel the second tragedy would be if we failed to learn from it and share, and that is what I am committed to do," she says.

http://www.oprah.com/oprahradio/Beth-Holloway

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http://www.oprah.com/oprahradio/Beth-Holloway_1

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« Reply #597 on: April 07, 2011, 02:34:06 PM »

More from the Dr. Phil team, objections to the objection to the Summary Judgement

Deepak and Satish think they can change their story as much as Joran and we won't remember  :







Monkeys have the Aruban strategy figured out but ... does the judge.

Four more sleeps!

Janet

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Aruban Press Conference 01/06/09
Press Anouncement


Ladies and gentlemen!

The Public Prosecutors Office Aruba and the Aruban Police Force would like to give you an updated summary about the investigation into the disappearance of Natalee Holloway …

• Amongst the witnesses were the two brothers who previously were suspects in this case but who, by the new statements of Joran, received an alibi from Joran, when he told the under cover that the two brothers are “jerks” who don’t know anything about what had happened … .

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/06/aruba-prosecutor-5-page-letter-dont-miss-the-part-where-he-trashes-fox-and-menever-dull/

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4344.msg614673#msg614673


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Feb 6, 2008 5:00 am US/Pacific
Former Holloway Suspects Can Sue Dr. Phil


A judge refused to dismiss a defamation suit Tuesday against CBS and television psychologist "Dr. Phil" McGraw brought by two brothers who were questioned in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

William Cremer, the lead attorney for Surinamese brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, praised the decision by Superior Court Judge Edward A. Ferns.

"I'm going to take Dr. Phil down," he said outside the courtroom.

The ruling came a day after ABC's "20/20" aired a secretly recorded conversation involving Joran Van der Sloot ....

Cremer said the taped remarks by Van der Sloot, which were secretly recorded by a Dutch crime reporter, help his clients' defamation case.

"It pretty much exonerates my boys, doesn't it?" Cremer said.

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http://cbs2.com/entertainment/doctor.phil.mcgraw.2.647163.html




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I haven't seen anyone here at SM that believes 100% of what Joran says whether it be the Range Rover story or the most recent falling off balcony story.  I do believe many feel as though with every lie is a smidgen of truth. 

It's clear to me that Joran is simply throwing stuff out there hoping it sticks and in the process making some $$.  He knows that he's already paid the consequence of unlawful disposal of a corpse.  Could be that the stories not involving K2 are in hopes of K2 getting a large settlement from Dr. Phil and sharing with Joran.
 
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« Reply #598 on: April 07, 2011, 05:49:32 PM »

More from the Dr. Phil team, objections to the objection to the Summary Judgement

Deepak and Satish think they can change their story as much as Joran and we won't remember  :







I knew it!

Following the revelation of the Range Rover "confession" in February, 2008 that distanced the Kalpoes from implication in the events encompassing the morning of May 30th ... my immediate suspicion was that Joran van der Sloot had been made aware of the "secret" recording by the Aruban/Dutch "powers that be" ... the Aruban/Dutch "powers that be" who Patrick vander Eem and Peter Devries admittedly  had been in consultation with in regards to the operation.

I theorized that the new Aruban/Dutch strategy implied that Joran who was minor on May 30, 2005 would be the sacrificial lamp in the the Natalee Holloway case and ... all other participants in the happenings encompassing that fateful morning would be distanced ... all participants in the persuing cover up that prevented justice from prevailing would be distanced and ... all connections to Aruba's underground economy would be distanced.  Above all ... Natalee's family would be appeased believing the truth had been revealed.

I also theorized that the distancing of Deepak and Satish by Joran in the Range Rover "confession" would be used as a source of evidence by the Plaintiff's attorneys in the defamation lawsuit against Phil McGraw.

In February, 2009 ... my DIL compiled a document entitled "The Involvement of the Kalpoes" and emailed it to Phil McGraw's attorney.

Janet

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... But sharing information with people who work for people who are directly orchestrating the cover up, Rudy, or the Dutch, is the most irresponsible investigating I can imagine.

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« Reply #599 on: April 07, 2011, 06:02:11 PM »

http://amigoenieuws.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5917:joran-mag-straf-mogelijk-in-nederland-uitzitten&catid=108:artikelen-aruba&Itemid=199

Google translation:

Joran may serve sentence possible in the Netherlands

Thursday, April 7, 2011 3:43 p.m.

ORANGE CITY - Joran van der Sloot may, if he is convicted, his punishment may serve partly in the Netherlands. To this end, the Cabinet recently approved a bill in the Netherlands.

Peru and the Netherlands have already called a WOTS treaty. This stands for Law Enforcement of Criminal Judgments. This act is penalized for Dutch prisoners abroad back to their homeland to the remaining sentence in the Netherlands to serve. Under the treaty must first be a prisoner a "substantial part" of his sentence in Peru prison. The treaty was already long in the planning, but initially encountered problems in Peru. The Cabinet has recently agreed to a bill and the proposal is for advice to the Council of State.

Should he be convicted, then certainly Joran ears to the possibility of his sentence in the Netherlands again, says his lawyer Máximo Altez in the Dutch media. Above in order to qualify, Joran in Peru have been convicted and are exhausted or redundant. "But first it would have to come to a conviction and there is as yet no", his lawyer said in the media.

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