Lively Case Discussion #590 3/16 - 3/19/2007

[sb]

FOM, I remember how they did that with the music.

The one that really set me boiling was when Greta was doing a live interview down there and the band started playing "Staying Alive" in the background.

Those online radio stations were just unbelievable. I could imagine some guy in a little clapboard studio in a trailer somewhere with a record player and one of those old metal hand-held mikes spinning vinyl while figuring out which lies to tell next. Kind of the Wolfman Jack effect Aruban style. Even if they did stream. Choppy, terrible streams, too.

[Sam]

Hi Monkeys, only here for a minute.
Cat, My hubby has a few irons. He said you could borrow any you wanted since he has not golfed for awhile.

Sam

[klaasend]

Diario 2/14/2007

http://www.diario-aruba.com/2007/2/14/local/news7.php

armanan confisca durante actividadnan di carnaval ta inclui: CUCHIO GRANDI MODIFICA, CU POR KITA CABEZ DI HENDE AFO



ORANJESTAD(AAN): Vocero Policial Papito Comenencia a papia tocante di tur loke a wordo confisca pa polis durante diferente parada y actividad di carnaval. Esaki durante conferencia di prensa, den cual el a bisa cu tabata varios artefacto y bebida, hende a purba di drenta cune durante diferente di a actividadnan.

Señor Comenencia y Sra Hassel a pone tur cos loke a wordo confisca riba mesa, manera por wak riba e potretnan. Comenencia a stress riba e cuchio grandi manera un machete, cu a wordo modifica di tal forma, pa e hasi mas daño na un ser humano.

Esaki a haya riba un persona cu a bay Lighting Parade. E persona aki a presenta na warda di polis e anochi ey y ora el a yega polis a wak cu e arma aki a cay for di dje. “Bo no por bay carnaval cu e arma aki, pa defende bo mes”, segun Comenencia kende a sigui bisa: cu e persona aki sigur a sali for di cas cu intencion di agredi un hende.

Na e manera cu e arma aki a wordo modifica, si e persona lo a corta un hende, lo tabata dificil pa e persona sobrevivi. Segun Comenencia e arma aki por kita cabez di un persona facilmente.

Vocero di Polis ta pidi mayornan pa purba controla nan yiunan mihor. Tur hende kier fiesta y celebra, pero esaki mester keda un celebracion y no un actividad pa causa maltrato. “Na hobennan mi ta pidi, ban mustra cu nos ta e hobennan di mayan y cu nos por sin alcohol y sin arma”, segun vocero policial.

El a splica cu esaki ta conta tambe pa e mayornan, pasobra no ta hoben so ta causa problema durante actividadnan di carnaval. Den e paradanan ultimo polis a wak varios mayor bao di influencia di alcohol, hunto cu nan yiunan, mientras cu ta un bon ehempel nan mester duna nan yiunan.

Comenencia a hasi un apelacion tambe na tur prensa pa ora cu nan saca potret, entrevista of filma, pa nan no para dilanti di e grupo y stroba esaki di sigui bay. El a bisa cu e reportero mester djis pidi e persona di cual por ehempel e kier saca un potret, pa hala na banda y saca su potret, sin stroba henter e grupo.

Prensa a trece dilanti si nan vocero policial cu esnan cu ta para saca portret no ta solamente miembronan di prensa. Tin hendenan cu ta traha pa e companianan di foto di sector priva, cu tambe ta saca potret y cu quizas ta nan ta stroba fluho di e paradanan. Comenencia a bisa cu polis lo tene cuenta cu esaki.

[Elaine]

http://www.eur.nl/english/pressroom/releases/2006/october2006/criminalcode/

New Criminal Code for the Netherlands Antilles
The Criminal Code of the Netherlands Antilles is in urgent need of modernisation, and a revised edition is now being prepared. On Thursday 5 October 2006, an expert meeting will be held at Erasmus University Rotterdam to discuss progress. It will include the first public presentation of a proposal for the general section of the new Criminal Code (book 1).

The project to review the Criminal Code of the Netherlands Antilles was launched three years ago. The existing code was urgently in need of modernisation since both it and the associated country regulations and decrees were extremely outdated.
On 18 January 2003, the Committees for the review of the Criminal Code of the Netherlands Antilles officially began their work under the chairmanship of L.A.J. de Lannoy (for the Netherlands Antilles) and Mrs Croes-Fernandes (for Aruba). The chairmanship of the Committee for Aruba has since been taken over by N. Jörg.
Both Committees are assisted by a Secretariat headed by Professor H. de Doelder, which has drawn up the basic text proposals.
During the past three years, the Committees have modified criminal sentences and reviewed the sentences handed down for various crimes. New treaty commitments (partly in response to the fight against terrorism) have made it necessary to codify new laws. Finally, the growing complexity of crime and the need to combat terrorism has made closer cooperation between the different parts of the Kingdom of the Netherlands more vital. This can be encouraged through the coordination of their respective laws and regulations.
The specialists attending the meeting will discuss and elucidate the changes that have been made to the new Criminal Code. The programme will be chaired by Professor de Doelder and presentations will be given by Professor D.H. de Jong, Professor P.A.M. Mevis and Professor J.W. Fokkens. The Ministers Plenipotentiary of the Netherlands Antilles, Mr P. Comenencia, and of Aruba, Mr W.F. Croes, will be present. The Netherlands Minister for Kingdom Relations, Mr A. Nicolaï, has also been invited to attend.

Note for Editors:
Expert meeting to discuss the new Criminal Code of the Netherlands Antilles, Thursday 5 October 2006, 11.00 hours
Place: Erasmus University Rotterdam, Woudestein building, Riviumzaal
If you would like to attend the meeting, please contact the FRG press and public relations office, Annemart Berendse, tel. 010 408 9766

Klaas, I saw that but disreguarded it because I thought we were talking about Edwin Comenencia , and this article talks about a P. Comenencia, so I thought this was a diff. guy? But they do have a lot of names over there sometimes two or three even four?

[friend of monkeys]

No,I was thinking of a different iron,so I won't say more.I am awake now,but I am strict grounding.I did not bother the cats next door,no matter what they say or the fur in my paws.I have never heard of this guy before.Each time I get out of the rabbit hole,the ground opens up again.Cat(the confused)

In the beginning of this case, this guy was called the "police spokesperson"... I would love to know what happened to him, and where he is now. This isn't nice, but maybe he died?

wasn't he the guy on FOX who said they were following a car in columbia/venezuela w/ Nat Holloway in it........then never heard from him again????  or of her being in another country ....nothing...

[yapperz1]

Klaas, would be nice if they updated their criminal code to include LIARS
If that happens all of the mouths from the rock would be locked up!!  

Not to meniton some from the good ole US of A who think the sun sets & rises in some folks over there. Boy, are they in for a rude awakening.

Hey Medley... If Paulus is the epitome of an honorable person, I would like to know what drugs you are on???

[Cat]

No problem,I will go with old ways.I will let the women do the questions.That is why 1/2 of Custers men died.They had problems with women in leadership posistions. cat

[Elaine]

Diario 2/14/2007

http://www.diario-aruba.com/2007/2/14/local/news7.php

armanan confisca durante actividadnan di carnaval ta inclui: CUCHIO GRANDI MODIFICA, CU POR KITA CABEZ DI HENDE AFO



ORANJESTAD(AAN): Vocero Policial Papito Comenencia a papia tocante di tur loke a wordo confisca pa polis durante diferente parada y actividad di carnaval. Esaki durante conferencia di prensa, den cual el a bisa cu tabata varios artefacto y bebida, hende a purba di drenta cune durante diferente di a actividadnan.

Señor Comenencia y Sra Hassel a pone tur cos loke a wordo confisca riba mesa, manera por wak riba e potretnan. Comenencia a stress riba e cuchio grandi manera un machete, cu a wordo modifica di tal forma, pa e hasi mas daño na un ser humano.

Esaki a haya riba un persona cu a bay Lighting Parade. E persona aki a presenta na warda di polis e anochi ey y ora el a yega polis a wak cu e arma aki a cay for di dje. “Bo no por bay carnaval cu e arma aki, pa defende bo mes”, segun Comenencia kende a sigui bisa: cu e persona aki sigur a sali for di cas cu intencion di agredi un hende.

Na e manera cu e arma aki a wordo modifica, si e persona lo a corta un hende, lo tabata dificil pa e persona sobrevivi. Segun Comenencia e arma aki por kita cabez di un persona facilmente.

Vocero di Polis ta pidi mayornan pa purba controla nan yiunan mihor. Tur hende kier fiesta y celebra, pero esaki mester keda un celebracion y no un actividad pa causa maltrato. “Na hobennan mi ta pidi, ban mustra cu nos ta e hobennan di mayan y cu nos por sin alcohol y sin arma”, segun vocero policial.

El a splica cu esaki ta conta tambe pa e mayornan, pasobra no ta hoben so ta causa problema durante actividadnan di carnaval. Den e paradanan ultimo polis a wak varios mayor bao di influencia di alcohol, hunto cu nan yiunan, mientras cu ta un bon ehempel nan mester duna nan yiunan.

Comenencia a hasi un apelacion tambe na tur prensa pa ora cu nan saca potret, entrevista of filma, pa nan no para dilanti di e grupo y stroba esaki di sigui bay. El a bisa cu e reportero mester djis pidi e persona di cual por ehempel e kier saca un potret, pa hala na banda y saca su potret, sin stroba henter e grupo.

Prensa a trece dilanti si nan vocero policial cu esnan cu ta para saca portret no ta solamente miembronan di prensa. Tin hendenan cu ta traha pa e companianan di foto di sector priva, cu tambe ta saca potret y cu quizas ta nan ta stroba fluho di e paradanan. Comenencia a bisa cu polis lo tene cuenta cu esaki.

Opppps, he is alive! Klaas found him    

[friend of monkeys]

FOM, I remember how they did that with the music.

The one that really set me boiling was when Greta was doing a live interview down there and the band started playing "Staying Alive" in the background.

Those online radio stations were just unbelievable. I could imagine some guy in a little clapboard studio in a trailer somewhere with a record player and one of those old metal hand-held mikes spinning vinyl while figuring out which lies to tell next. Kind of the Wolfman Jack effect Aruban style. Even if they did stream. Choppy, terrible streams, too.

SB...thx for making me not sound like a loon here...it was horrible.....and DAG had no idea we were listening.....until some monkey said   """"""""
then the silence began......aruba girl knew the DJ....can't prove it but i know

[Cat]

when you are breeding with relatives a lot,you get the same last names.cat

[friend of monkeys]

No problem,I will go with old ways.I will let the women do the questions.That is why 1/2 of Custers men died.They had problems with women in leadership posistions. cat

CAt.......just tell me whenand where to meet u and the gnar....

[klaasend]

http://www.eur.nl/english/pressroom/releases/2006/october2006/criminalcode/

New Criminal Code for the Netherlands Antilles
The Criminal Code of the Netherlands Antilles is in urgent need of modernisation, and a revised edition is now being prepared. On Thursday 5 October 2006, an expert meeting will be held at Erasmus University Rotterdam to discuss progress. It will include the first public presentation of a proposal for the general section of the new Criminal Code (book 1).

The project to review the Criminal Code of the Netherlands Antilles was launched three years ago. The existing code was urgently in need of modernisation since both it and the associated country regulations and decrees were extremely outdated.
On 18 January 2003, the Committees for the review of the Criminal Code of the Netherlands Antilles officially began their work under the chairmanship of L.A.J. de Lannoy (for the Netherlands Antilles) and Mrs Croes-Fernandes (for Aruba). The chairmanship of the Committee for Aruba has since been taken over by N. Jörg.
Both Committees are assisted by a Secretariat headed by Professor H. de Doelder, which has drawn up the basic text proposals.
During the past three years, the Committees have modified criminal sentences and reviewed the sentences handed down for various crimes. New treaty commitments (partly in response to the fight against terrorism) have made it necessary to codify new laws. Finally, the growing complexity of crime and the need to combat terrorism has made closer cooperation between the different parts of the Kingdom of the Netherlands more vital. This can be encouraged through the coordination of their respective laws and regulations.
The specialists attending the meeting will discuss and elucidate the changes that have been made to the new Criminal Code. The programme will be chaired by Professor de Doelder and presentations will be given by Professor D.H. de Jong, Professor P.A.M. Mevis and Professor J.W. Fokkens. The Ministers Plenipotentiary of the Netherlands Antilles, Mr P. Comenencia, and of Aruba, Mr W.F. Croes, will be present. The Netherlands Minister for Kingdom Relations, Mr A. Nicolaï, has also been invited to attend.

Note for Editors:
Expert meeting to discuss the new Criminal Code of the Netherlands Antilles, Thursday 5 October 2006, 11.00 hours
Place: Erasmus University Rotterdam, Woudestein building, Riviumzaal
If you would like to attend the meeting, please contact the FRG press and public relations office, Annemart Berendse, tel. 010 408 9766

Klaas, I saw that but disreguarded it because I thought we were talking about Edwin Comenencia , and this article talks about a P. Comenencia, so I thought this was a diff. guy? But they do have a lot of names over there sometimes two or three even four?

Well Edwin and Papito are the same person.  You are right, this may not be him.

[klaasend]

when you are breeding with relatives a lot,you get the same last names.cat

   

[friend of monkeys]

when you are breeding with relatives a lot,you get the same last names.cat

ya know??????

[Lala'sMom]

Comenencia DOES need further investigation.

I have NEVER thought that  VDStraten was DirtyHand. Not even for a second. I remember AG coming on here (though certainly since then she has shifted her loyalties) and she was adamant that he is of the highest character and not corrupt. I don't mean in the Refugee sense of glorifying PVDS the way they do, she was very genuine about it.

Remember that DirtyHand is supposedly an ARAWAK. That means Aruban, NOT Dutch. The Dutch are Babylonians. I don't understand why that isn't self-evident to everyone?

Shango Says:June 26th, 2005 at 9:19 pm
DirtyHand is not an Arawak
The singing card can not be played
The cowboys would circle the wagons
The arawaks are preparing the sacrifice
light the fires
the gods are talking

[Cat]

I used to listen to The Wolfman on a Crystal radio,some good music.I do remember,that is a wicked knife he was holding.it used to clean and chop up things.Cat

[Elaine]

when you are breeding with relatives a lot,you get the same last names.cat

ROFLMAO!!!

[friend of monkeys]

somethng to think on LALAS......good to see u...

[San]

Opppps, he is alive! Klaas found him    

  Klaas should have been a detective.

[Cat]

we will find a place.I hope you don't mind,but no barfing on the cat.6/3,I will be off the coast of Cape cod,waiting for the tide.Listen for the jazz/cat