Lively Case Discussion #590 3/16 - 3/19/2007

[klaasend]

Comenencia DOES need further investigation.

I have NEVER thought that  VDStraten was DirtyHand. Not even for a second. I remember AG coming on here (though certainly since then she has shifted her loyalties) and she was adamant that he is of the highest character and not corrupt. I don't mean in the Refugee sense of glorifying PVDS the way they do, she was very genuine about it.

Remember that DirtyHand is supposedly an ARAWAK. That means Aruban, NOT Dutch. The Dutch are Babylonians. I don't understand why that isn't self-evident to everyone?

Shango Says:June 26th, 2005 at 9:19 pm
DirtyHand is not an Arawak
The singing card can not be played
The cowboys would circle the wagons
The arawaks are preparing the sacrifice
light the fires
the gods are talking

Thanks for the clarification.  

[friend of monkeys]

I used to listen to The Wolfman on a Crystal radio,some good music.I do remember,that is a wicked knife he was holding.it used to clean and chop up things.Cat

YES

[Sam]

that is a scary looking knife Commencia is holding.

Oh a divining rod Cat. I can do that with almost anything. But I do not like boats so I will have to fly and meat you there. LOL

[Elaine]

Opppps, he is alive! Klaas found him    

  Klaas should have been a detective.

I agree  

[Lala'sMom]

Edwin is nicknamed "Pappy the Butterfly"  if I am not mistaken.  I believe it was in a Merian Ernest riddle.

[yapperz1]

when you are breeding with relatives a lot,you get the same last names.cat

Cat, are you saying inbreds have a way of thriving???  

[friend of monkeys]

my mommy is calling...lol...nite monkeys.....prayers for all of us...we are all here for a reason....and keep the faith....someone will speak soon

[friend of monkeys]

when you are breeding with relatives a lot,you get the same last names.cat

Cat, are you saying inbreds have a way of thriving???  

        take cape cold as an example...lol

[Elaine]

my mommy is calling...lol...nite monkeys.....prayers for all of us...we are all here for a reason....and keep the faith....someone will speak soon

Sleep tight FOM!

[Elaine]

Edwin is nicknamed "Pappy the Butterfly"  if I am not mistaken.  I believe it was in a Merian Ernest riddle.

With the article klaas found from Feb Of this year, he is still there in Aruba. I wonder how close this guy is to Paulus?

[Cat]

I am being put in my cage now,so good night.Prayers for all.CAT

[Sam]

I am being put in my cage now,so good night.Prayers for all.CAT

Night Cat.

[yapperz1]

Night Cat...remember cats always find a way out  of anything  

[Elaine]

that is a scary looking knife Commencia is holding.

Oh a divining rod Cat. I can do that with almost anything. But I do not like boats so I will have to fly and meat you there. LOL

Yes,the knife is scary looking! And from what I can get out of that article it was confiscated from someone, during a parade at Carnaval. That big knife! Aruba is very safe, huh?!!

[Lala'sMom]

I think I should clarify this business about Dirty Hand.  Remember there are several in the riddles.  Let me show you:

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 5:32 pm
The sacrifice is the correct food to appease the gods, arawaks, and cowboys
but the foundations of the house of babylon will shake
even harder if Arawak Dirty Hand is revealed

This is clearly a different Dirty Hand and it would not be van der Strattem, since he is Dutch.  Then again, to confuse even more, one must first decide who the Arawaks really are.  Some of the origianl Code Talkers believe the Arawaks are the ALE and not the Arubans themselves.  Then some think that Arawaks refers only to the native Arubans and not just ALE.  

Babylonians is also thought to be the Dutch.  Yet, I know many that believe it is a reference to the casinos and gamblers. So, you have to decide which is which before you can determine who is which Dirty Hand.  Also, remember that there are some Code Talkers that still claim that Dirty Hand and dirty hand are two separate people.  The first being given more importance in the hierarchy.

[San]

that is a scary looking knife Commencia is holding.

Oh a divining rod Cat. I can do that with almost anything. But I do not like boats so I will have to fly and meat you there. LOL

Yes,the knife is scary looking! And from what I can get out of that article it was confiscated from someone, during a parade at Carnaval. That big knife! Aruba is very safe, huh?!!

I agree Elaine.

That is probably one of the smaller knives they walk around with on Aruba.

[Sam]

Edwin is nicknamed "Pappy the Butterfly"  if I am not mistaken.  I believe it was in a Merian Ernest riddle.

With the article klaas found from Feb Of this year, he is still there in Aruba. I wonder how close this guy is to Paulus?

Well I wonder if he really is Jorans Godfather. I wonder if this is one more thing we have been misled about. I still think it is possible that Ben King is Dirty Hand. I also think he could also be the one who is really Jorans Godfather.

[Lala'sMom]

Merian Ernest Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:08 pm Post subject: Papi the Butterfly
The journey may be far, but it will be short. The dead end is another dead-end. It repels water as do duck feathers.

There's no breath left. It is hard to find things that don't want to be found.

Choose sides now, before embarrassment is unavoidable. The croupiers know the boy knew the Yellowhammer. They told the Babylonians so.

Too many detractors. Stick to the story. Read the hours of The Simian's words and see if they fit.

[San]

Edwin is nicknamed "Pappy the Butterfly"  if I am not mistaken.  I believe it was in a Merian Ernest riddle.

With the article klaas found from Feb Of this year, he is still there in Aruba. I wonder how close this guy is to Paulus?

Well I wonder if he really is Jorans Godfather. I wonder if this is one more thing we have been misled about. I still think it is possible that Ben King is Dirty Hand. I also think he could also be the one who is really Jorans Godfather.

Who was more dirty that Judge Bob Wit who I believe is related to Paulus.

[San]

Merian Ernest Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:08 pm Post subject: Papi the Butterfly
The journey may be far, but it will be short. The dead end is another dead-end. It repels water as do duck feathers.

There's no breath left. It is hard to find things that don't want to be found.

Choose sides now, before embarrassment is unavoidable. The croupiers know the boy knew the Yellowhammer. They told the Babylonians so.

Too many detractors. Stick to the story. Read the hours of The Simian's words and see if they fit.

Who are what is the Yellowhammer.