Lively Case Discussion #590 3/16 - 3/19/2007

[dkpen]

QUESTION:

Late last week there was an article in Amigo (I think) that had a
picture of a bunch of judges at some sort of meeting in Aruba.
Does anyone know what that was all about?  There have been
some posters on the front page that were asking about the
article...

 

Think it was a swaring in for new Lawyers and or the Judges.

[Elaine]

QUESTION:

Late last week there was an article in Amigo (I think) that had a
picture of a bunch of judges at some sort of meeting in Aruba.
Does anyone know what that was all about?  There have been
some posters on the front page that were asking about the
article...

 

Oh yes, that was a great article . That is the article where Mr Jorg criticised Paulus Van Der Sloot for his remarks against the Prosecutors office. You could say that Paulus got a good public spanking!

[klaasend]

O/T - everyone PLEASE check the menu foods website and make sure they aren't feeding their pets the recalled food.  We've had several people post on the front page that their pets just died from renal failure.

www.menufoods.com

[Hotshot]

Lilpuma  Yes A SM T-Shirt would be great, wonder if it would get to me in time though.

Maybe Klaas would know.  Is she napping or shopping?   Doesn't she get a ringtone or something when we're talking about her?

Sorry, what was the question?    

Hotshot - I thought you were wearing the t-shirts you made?

Sorry for responding so late, was making more shirts.  Yes, I am wearing the ones I made.  But something with SM on it would have been nice too...

[Hotshot]

Hotshot - I just added a cap in Cafepress:

http://www.cafepress.com/scaredmonkeys.117921753

Thats really cute.  Let me go and check it out, see if its not too late to order.

[Hotshot]

I left a message in the missing thread.  The jury has reached a verdict in the Halbach murder trial.

long time no see...hi owl..  and hotshot

I just may do that...  Hi, how ya been?

[klaasend]

Hotshot - you can do 2 day shipping but it will cost you.

[klaasend]

Hotshot - you can do 2 day shipping but it will cost you.

http://www.cafepress.com/scaredmonkeys

Scroll down, there are 3 styles of caps I added.

[dkpen]

QUESTION:

Late last week there was an article in Amigo (I think) that had a
picture of a bunch of judges at some sort of meeting in Aruba.
Does anyone know what that was all about?  There have been
some posters on the front page that were asking about the
article...

 

Oh yes, that was a great article . That is the article where Mr Jorg criticised Paulus Van Der Sloot for his remarks against the Prosecutors office. You could say that Paulus got a good public spanking!

You know, I wonder just how uncomfortable PVDS truly is when he walks the streets in Aruba and people are whispering behind his back. Especially from his peers. It's got to bother the sweat hog a little.

[Patti]

QUESTION:

Late last week there was an article in Amigo (I think) that had a
picture of a bunch of judges at some sort of meeting in Aruba.
Does anyone know what that was all about?  There have been
some posters on the front page that were asking about the
article...

 

I believe it was to greet the new judges.  The interresting thing is at that meeting, PVDS got a good "spanking"  

I know last time I was here, you were working on the translation...

So what was said?

And, is the article going to be
posted to the front page?  

 

[Hotshot]

Hotshot - you can do 2 day shipping but it will cost you.

http://www.cafepress.com/scaredmonkeys

Scroll down, there are 3 styles of caps I added.

OK, going there now

[dkpen]

O/T - everyone PLEASE check the menu foods website and make sure they aren't feeding their pets the recalled food.  We've had several people post on the front page that their pets just died from renal failure.

www.menufoods.com

Omgosh that is so sad. That is scarey too. What next, torrist putting anthrax in our boxed food or anthrax in our floor ect. A very scarey thought.

Menu Foods will be lawyering up I'm sure. Or settle out of court. So many pets dying from their food. Just so sad.

[klaasend]

Patti - here is the article, the translation and my added photo at the bottom, lol  




Translation posted at RU by Arubagirl today:

Article about remarks from Advocate General made about the case

Just in case anybody's interested.

Advocate General Mr. Jorg Questioned Attacks of Mr. Van Der Sloot Against Public Ministery [Department of Justice]
In front of plenty of lawyers in the courtroom

Oranjestad - Something unusual happened Tuesday morning during the swearing-in ceremony of the three Scribes to the Court who are Maikel Oduber, Navio Valdez and Edwin de Weever and the three lawyers mr. Foy, mr. Vis and mr. Bryson.

What happened is that Advocate General mr. Jorg, in front of all the lawyers present, among them mr. Van Der Sloot as well, decided to question the statement of Mr. Van Der Sloot that was published in Amigoe. The reaction of Mr. Jorg was a surprise to all thouse present and especially to mr. Van Der Sloot himself.

Bon Dia Aruba was present when mr. Jorg was to give a speech related to the lawyers that had been sworn in. At a certain moment the speech changed to the subject about the relationship between advocacy and the Department of Justice.

Mr. Jorg expressed himself in a very diplomatic way, but to everybody present it was very clear that he was referring to mr. Van Der Sloot. He questioned the fact that Mr. Van Der Sloot went to look for publicity by giving a statement to Amigoe and make certain statements that mr. Jorg never experienced. He refers here to the fact that lawyers and prosecutors publicly refer to each other as idiots. Mr. Jorg said that he hopes that this not become a habit. He said that he thinks we won't come very far by insulting each other. He made a call to change these actions to a better way to relate to each other.

Mr. Jorg also questioned the fact that Mr. Van Der Sloot attacked the Department of Justice for being out of balance, without management, untrustworthy and without any kind of ethics. Mr. Jorg remarked that these are large words but they demand arguments to show this as well. He finds that the argument cannot only consist of comparing the importance of finding the missing young lady against "all sorts of idiocy" from the other side. Mr. Jorg said that he can't unattach finding the young lady from the search for those people who are responsible for her disappearance. Especially when certain people are contradicting themselves and others about their role around the crucial moments during the disappearance.

Mr. Jorg continued to say that what he finds very strange is that on one hand the magistrates of the Department of Justice get questioned but on the other hand the Police get accused of not "have followed through" with the interrogation of a suspect. Mr. Jorg referred to the fact that in the Code of Criminal Procedings, a suspect has the right to remain silent. If this

is violated, then the case can even appear in front of the European Human Rights court. He thinks this observation [referring to the police] is absurd.

He also questioned the fact that blame was assigned to the police by saying that the suspect did not declare the whole truth to the Police. Mr Jorg asked if t his is not a choice that the suspect himself makes? He remarked that he was asking himself how a child can get it in his head to go weeks without giving a statement to the police.

This is a recap of the speech. It could be noted in the courtroom that the color of mr. Van Der Sloot changed, showing that he did not find himself comfortable. Many lawyers had comments on the reaction of mr. Jorg. Some lawyers opine that it was not the place nor the time to make this speech while other lawyers find it strange that mr. Jorg made such a speech but that mr. Van Sloot himself asked for it.


-Bon Dia Aruba March 15 Page A3




   

[Elaine]

QUESTION:

Late last week there was an article in Amigo (I think) that had a
picture of a bunch of judges at some sort of meeting in Aruba.
Does anyone know what that was all about?  There have been
some posters on the front page that were asking about the
article...

 

Oh yes, that was a great article . That is the article where Mr Jorg criticised Paulus Van Der Sloot for his remarks against the Prosecutors office. You could say that Paulus got a good public spanking!

You know, I wonder just how uncomfortable PVDS truly is when he walks the streets in Aruba and people are whispering behind his back. Especially from his peers. It's got to bother the sweat hog a little.

A lot of people there probably smile to his face, then talk about him behind his back. For some reason, on that island no-one wants to speak up when it counts. They are afraid of something. That is why it is just so great that Mr Jorg ripped him up, in front of all who were there! I applaud Mr Jorg! As you said a lot of whispering is going on over there.

[dkpen]

O/T - everyone PLEASE check the menu foods website and make sure they aren't feeding their pets the recalled food.  We've had several people post on the front page that their pets just died from renal failure.

www.menufoods.com

Omgosh that is so sad. That is scarey too. What next, torrist putting anthrax in our boxed food or anthrax in our floor ect. A very scarey thought.

Menu Foods will be lawyering up I'm sure. Or settle out of court. So many pets dying from their food. Just so sad.

spell check = terrorist

[Elaine]

Klaas, I love the dunce cap..    A quick shout out to Hotshot and FOM, and I will be back after diner.

[Patti]

QUESTION:

Late last week there was an article in Amigo (I think) that had a
picture of a bunch of judges at some sort of meeting in Aruba.
Does anyone know what that was all about?  There have been
some posters on the front page that were asking about the
article...

 

Oh yes, that was a great article . That is the article where Mr Jorg criticised Paulus Van Der Sloot for his remarks against the Prosecutors office. You could say that Paulus got a good public spanking!

I agree... it has to be embarrassing to know that you're the reason that
the island is experiencing the effect of a boycott that would never had
happened had he done the responsible thing, both for the island and for
his son.

There's a judge, here, where I live whos son was arrested for possession.
He didn't try to cover for his son... in fact, he did the opposite.  He felt
that it was just that his son go to jail for his offense just like everyone
else.   His father was, especially, hard on criminals involved in drug
activity and never backed down from his stance... even when it came to
his own son.

He's a tough guy, not too many people like him... I adore him.  He is a
fine example of one that upholds his responsibility to the judiciary.

And, by the way.... you look adorable!!

[dkpen]

QUESTION:

Late last week there was an article in Amigo (I think) that had a
picture of a bunch of judges at some sort of meeting in Aruba.
Does anyone know what that was all about?  There have been
some posters on the front page that were asking about the
article...

 

Oh yes, that was a great article . That is the article where Mr Jorg criticised Paulus Van Der Sloot for his remarks against the Prosecutors office. You could say that Paulus got a good public spanking!

I agree... it has to be embarrassing to know that you're the reason that
the island is experiencing the effect of a boycott that would never had
happened had he done the responsible thing, both for the island and for
his son.

There's a judge, here, where I live whos son was arrested for possession.
He didn't try to cover for his son... in fact, he did the opposite.  He felt
that it was just that his son go to jail for his offense just like everyone
else.   His father was, especially, hard on criminals involved in drug
activity and never backed down from his stance... even when it came to
his own son.

He's a tough guy, not too many people like him... I adore him.  He is a
fine example of one that upholds his responsibility to the judiciary.

And, by the way.... you look adorable!!

   Why thank you, you look marvelous yourself, schweety!

[Hotshot]

Klaas, I love the dunce cap..    A quick shout out to Hotshot and FOM, and I will be back after diner.

Hiyas

[mishy]

O/T - everyone PLEASE check the menu foods website and make sure they aren't feeding their pets the recalled food.  We've had several people post on the front page that their pets just died from renal failure.

www.menufoods.com