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« Reply #480 on: March 22, 2011, 08:51:12 AM »

honestly, I would be too scared to ever lie to a police officer!
Billie is so addicted to this creepy guy!
I wish that she would put in  as much time to try to find Hailey as she puts into  sneaking around to be with  Shawn...
Cookie, couldn't agree with you more . . .
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« Reply #481 on: March 22, 2011, 09:41:19 AM »

honestly, I would be too scared to ever lie to a police officer!
Billie is so addicted to this creepy guy!
I wish that she would put in  as much time to try to find Hailey as she puts into  sneaking around to be with  Shawn...
Cookie, couldn't agree with you more . . .

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« Reply #482 on: March 22, 2011, 09:53:50 AM »

How many think that Billie knows where her daughter's body is ?
Personally I do. I think she has lied so much that she has
even convinced herself 2 believe her own lies.
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« Reply #483 on: March 22, 2011, 10:10:47 AM »

Please excuse the interruption.  For those who were asking for a PO Box to mail donations to Red has supplied one.  I asked for an update and he said he's still in the process of answering motions back and forth and because it's on going he can't really tell us much at this time. 


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« Reply #484 on: March 22, 2011, 10:35:04 AM »

Please excuse the interruption.  For those who were asking for a PO Box to mail donations to Red has supplied one.  I asked for an update and he said he's still in the process of answering motions back and forth and because it's on going he can't really tell us much at this time. 


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« Reply #485 on: March 22, 2011, 10:43:51 AM »

How many think that Billie knows where her daughter's body is ?
Personally I do. I think she has lied so much that she has
even convinced herself 2 believe her own lies.

I don't think that she does..
I think that SA does though....but dumb Billie believes whatever he says...
 if SA told BD that her daughter isn't really missing, I think the dumb biotch would believe him..even though there is no sign of Hailey...
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« Reply #486 on: March 22, 2011, 11:21:49 AM »

Good Morning All.

I have compiled a list of the sites referring to the topic of Billie attorney that were posted yesterday afternoon/evening.  I am off again this morning but ... will do some reading this afternoon.

Later, Janet
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Mother Of Missing Teen Now Represented By Legal Counsel
POSTED: 4:34 pm CDT March 21, 2011
UPDATED: 7:16 am CDT March 22, 2011

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27268142/detail.html


Hailey's Mother Hires Attorney, No Longer Speaking to Media
Monday, March 21 2011

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353756


Attorney Says Adkins Smart For Getting "Lawyered Up"
Tuesday, January 18 2011

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332256


Affidavits: Adkins Search Warrants Linked to Child Porn
Monday, March 21 2011

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353726


Attorney for Billie Dunn Speaks for His Client
Monday, March 21 2011

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=354006


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« Reply #487 on: March 22, 2011, 11:34:22 AM »

How many think that Billie knows where her daughter's body is ?
Personally I do. I think she has lied so much that she has
even convinced herself 2 believe her own lies.

I do.  My theory implies that Shawn confessed to Billie on December 29th prior to them both being questioned by authorities.  Billie concedes that it was on the 29th that Shawn revealed to her that he had not been at work throughout the day on December 27th.

I do not know what was the underlying reason that Billie did not throw Shawn under the bus on the 29th.   Was it a warped sense of love?  Would Shawn implicate Billie in illegal wrongdoing that could land her behind bars for a long time ... illegal wrongdoing that had nothing to do with the demise of her daughter?  Something akin to the sale of child pornography?

Nevertheless ... I suspect that the 29th was the point in time when Billie made the calculated decision not to implicate Shawn.  Her twisted selfish thinking justified her position.  After all ... nothing was going to bring her daughter back.

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« Reply #488 on: March 22, 2011, 11:55:02 AM »



Billie Dunn's New Attorney Acknowledges His Client's Mistakes
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27270724/detail.html
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There was also a published report that Dunn was no longer speaking to the media.

However, Young corrected that statement by saying she will continue doing interviews – but only if her legal counsel is also there. ::snipping2::

Well, at least he knows his client well enough that she can't resist the media...

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« Reply #489 on: March 22, 2011, 12:00:35 PM »



Billie Dunn's New Attorney Acknowledges His Client's Mistakes
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27270724/detail.html
 ::snipping2::
There was also a published report that Dunn was no longer speaking to the media.

However, Young corrected that statement by saying she will continue doing interviews – but only if her legal counsel is also there. ::snipping2::

Well, at least he knows his client well enough that she can't resist the media...



I knew it!!

Janet

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wow i must have shimmed over this little peice, so she can afford a lawyer

During the hearing, Dunn was not represented by an attorney and declined to have the court appoint one for her.
http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/18/mother-missing-colorado-city-teen-hailey-dunn-arra/


I can envision it now.

If not today ... then tomorrow or ... the next day ... a high profile defence attorney will come galloping in on a white horse.  Then the talk show circuit with the major networks will be where it is at.  Maybe book and/or movie deals.  Unchallenged platforms will be provided to Billie ... unchallenged platforms to further her agenda of protecting Shawn from implication in the disappearance of her daughter.  In other words ... the truth in regards to what Billie knows will remain forever elusive.
 
IMO.  I hope I am wrong.

Janet

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« Reply #490 on: March 22, 2011, 12:16:15 PM »


Interesting tidbits, HOWEVER, should be considered rumor only until confirmed:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/WOTS-Word-On-The-Street-Hailey-Dunn-Case/206505536031382

WOTS - Word On The Street - Hailey Dunn Case
WOTS is Billie Dunn sent a text yesterday to Clint and Naomi offering Clint custody of Hailey and David if he will sign the deed to their house over to her and promise not to go after her for child support. What do you know about this?
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WOTS - Word On The Street - Hailey Dunn Case
WOTS is the FBI and Texas Rangers are going to seek charges today. What do you know about this?
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« Reply #491 on: March 22, 2011, 12:30:08 PM »



Billie Dunn's New Attorney Acknowledges His Client's Mistakes
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27270724/detail.html
 ::snipping2::
There was also a published report that Dunn was no longer speaking to the media.

However, Young corrected that statement by saying she will continue doing interviews – but only if her legal counsel is also there. ::snipping2::

Well, at least he knows his client well enough that she can't resist the media...



Another media ho!!   A few comments about statements Young made in above linked article:

"There was some discussion with law enforcement that being anyway associated with this person was somehow going to taint her and somehow get her charged with a crime," Young said.
This may suggest why Mitchell County Sheriff Partick Toombs announced that Adkins and Dunn were spotted together over the weekend, he said.



What is Young suggesting that they lied?   That LE tried to coerce her to stay away from SA?    If he wished she had legal representation much sooner, why didnt he step up then?

"I wish she hadn't told police Mr. Adkins wasn't there, but I wait anxiously for what incredible information comes from that warrant," he said.

Quite frankly it doesnt matter one bit what the search warrant states or what they wanted from Shawn, that is regarding his client.   The fact is she lied to LE that he was there, the reason they asked is irrelevant.

Young said this wasn't the only instance of law enforcement having an unfair advantage. He said officers intentionally arrested Dunn at night so she was unable to bond out until the next day – then the questioned her from 8 p.m. to midnight.
"I think it was not a mistake ... that Ms. Dunn was arrested after 8 when there was not a judge to magistrate her," he said. "She was unable to get a bond, so they were able to chat with her for a while whether she wanted to or not."


O please, here we go....my client was not treated properly, she was denied her rights blah blah blah.    Young should know better, LE had to have given her Miranda rights & further ask her if she wanted to talk voluntarily....it didnt work for Bozo, it wont work for you dude!

Young corrected that statement by saying she will continue doing interviews – but only if her legal counsel is also there.     

Makeup, please!
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« Reply #492 on: March 22, 2011, 12:35:11 PM »


Interesting tidbits, HOWEVER, should be considered rumor only until confirmed:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/WOTS-Word-On-The-Street-Hailey-Dunn-Case/206505536031382

WOTS - Word On The Street - Hailey Dunn Case
WOTS is Billie Dunn sent a text yesterday to Clint and Naomi offering Clint custody of Hailey and David if he will sign the deed to their house over to her and promise not to go after her for child support. What do you know about this?
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WOTS - Word On The Street - Hailey Dunn Case
WOTS is the FBI and Texas Rangers are going to seek charges today. What do you know about this?
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This may just be a rumor so I will proceed as such.    Im making a call, I may or may not get an answer.   IF she did this its for bond & her lawyer, she knows Hailey is dead & David is not his biological father but in protective custody initiated by CPS so it appears she wouldnt care about the house or her children....to me this, if true, would indicate guilt & the knowledge that she may be going away for a very long time.

As far as possible charges (again a rumor by WOTS at this point), I have no idea what this page is basing that on.
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« Reply #493 on: March 22, 2011, 12:54:11 PM »


Interesting tidbits, HOWEVER, should be considered rumor only until confirmed:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/WOTS-Word-On-The-Street-Hailey-Dunn-Case/206505536031382

WOTS - Word On The Street - Hailey Dunn Case
WOTS is Billie Dunn sent a text yesterday to Clint and Naomi offering Clint custody of Hailey and David if he will sign the deed to their house over to her and promise not to go after her for child support. What do you know about this?
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WOTS - Word On The Street - Hailey Dunn Case
WOTS is the FBI and Texas Rangers are going to seek charges today. What do you know about this?
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She needs money for her Attorney and she will  turn around and sell it. MOO
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« Reply #494 on: March 22, 2011, 12:59:33 PM »


Interesting tidbits, HOWEVER, should be considered rumor only until confirmed:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/WOTS-Word-On-The-Street-Hailey-Dunn-Case/206505536031382

WOTS - Word On The Street - Hailey Dunn Case
WOTS is Billie Dunn sent a text yesterday to Clint and Naomi offering Clint custody of Hailey and David if he will sign the deed to their house over to her and promise not to go after her for child support. What do you know about this?
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WOTS - Word On The Street - Hailey Dunn Case
WOTS is the FBI and Texas Rangers are going to seek charges today. What do you know about this?
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She needs money for her Attorney and she will  turn around and sell it. MOO

She legally cannot without Clint's approval.   The house is in both of their names.  I'll reserve opinion on what he may or may not do until this is substantiated but it wont be a favorable one if he does this.
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« Reply #495 on: March 22, 2011, 01:17:25 PM »


Interesting tidbits, HOWEVER, should be considered rumor only until confirmed:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/WOTS-Word-On-The-Street-Hailey-Dunn-Case/206505536031382

WOTS - Word On The Street - Hailey Dunn Case
WOTS is Billie Dunn sent a text yesterday to Clint and Naomi offering Clint custody of Hailey and David if he will sign the deed to their house over to her and promise not to go after her for child support. What do you know about this?
4 minutes ago ·LikeUnlike ·


WOTS - Word On The Street - Hailey Dunn Case
WOTS is the FBI and Texas Rangers are going to seek charges today. What do you know about this?
2 minutes ago ·LikeUnlike ·



This may just be a rumor so I will proceed as such.    Im making a call, I may or may not get an answer.   IF she did this its for bond & her lawyer, she knows Hailey is dead & David is not his biological father but in protective custody initiated by CPS so it appears she wouldnt care about the house or her children....to me this, if true, would indicate guilt & the knowledge that she may be going away for a very long time.

As far as possible charges (again a rumor by WOTS at this point), I have no idea what this page is basing that on.

Whoa Nellie!

It appears that Billie is attempting to negotiate the sale of Hailey and David with their unemployed ... already financially destitute father.  In other words ... she is taking the food out of the mouth  and the clothes off the backs of her children.

If this "rumor" turns out to be true ... Billie is lower than the low.

Janet

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« Reply #496 on: March 22, 2011, 01:24:25 PM »

Hello Monkey's

Did Clint legally adopt David?  Has this been confirmed?  Would paper work be available if David did adopt David?

What IF BD just changed the child's last name????  I mean anyone can go and change a name with a couple dollars. So we do

not know if Clint did or did not adopt Billy.  Thank-you.
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What about changing the child's last name?

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My opinion is she changed the name rather than going through the process of adoption...my opinion


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« Reply #498 on: March 22, 2011, 01:52:26 PM »


Interesting tidbits, HOWEVER, should be considered rumor only until confirmed:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/WOTS-Word-On-The-Street-Hailey-Dunn-Case/206505536031382

WOTS - Word On The Street - Hailey Dunn Case
WOTS is Billie Dunn sent a text yesterday to Clint and Naomi offering Clint custody of Hailey and David if he will sign the deed to their house over to her and promise not to go after her for child support. What do you know about this?

4 minutes ago ·LikeUnlike ·


WOTS - Word On The Street - Hailey Dunn Case
WOTS is the FBI and Texas Rangers are going to seek charges today. What do you know about this?
2 minutes ago ·LikeUnlike ·





Whoa Nellie!

It appears that Billie is attempting to negotiate the sale of Hailey and David with their unemployed ... already financially destitute father.  In other words ... she is taking the food out of the mouth  and the clothes off the backs of her children.

If this "rumor" turns out to be true ... Billie is lower than the low.

Janet


Is Billie playing on Clint's hope that his daughter is still alive when she offers him custody of his daughter?

Despicable!!

Janet



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« Reply #499 on: March 22, 2011, 02:01:09 PM »

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/WOTS-Word-On-The-Street-Hailey-Dunn-Case/206505536031382
WOTS - Word On The Street - Hailey Dunn Case
WOTS is Billie Dunn sent a text yesterday to Clint and Naomi offering Clint custody of Hailey and David if he will sign the deed to their house over to her and promise not to go after her for child support. What do you know about this?
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 prob not true,she just wants the house to pay young

JMO
a solution for clint, in this situation, tell BD no,get a 2nd
mortgage,while you finish your jail time, naomi and i will take
care of the house while you are gone,and if your found guilty
of hailey disappearance,you can sign off the house to me,as you/
BD, will not be needing one
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