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« Reply #720 on: March 27, 2011, 11:42:51 PM »

Regarding the CPS issue, they strongly suggested to Billie that she make arrangements for DD to live elsewhere while this criminal investigation was active which indicates that he may be in imminent danger within that home.   CPS would not have issued that statement if that wasnt the case, period.  If Billie had refused trust me they would have been in court to get an order, and they would have gotten it.   This isnt about a custody issue or a warning with stipulations due to substance abuse in the home where minor children reside, so that action is different.   The action taken by CPS or LE when a biological parent takes back custody of a child they have not been deemed unfit or forbidden from doing so is entirely different as well.  In this case, it can be speculated all day long why but the bottom line is the mother's live-in boyfriend is the only named suspect & the mother is considered a POI in a child abduction/suspected murder.   The minor child's sister is suspected to have been murdered, no sugar coating it.
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« Reply #721 on: March 27, 2011, 11:57:42 PM »

Thanks guys for the information on Shawn! I have gone over this document and I was wondering if they ever got the car into custody to go over it and if so, if they found any evidence? I do not get Shawn at all. On the one hand, he leaves kiddie porn all over the place during this investigation. On the other hand, he seems to think he is pretty smart, hence the head games. For example, from this document, he tells LE in an early interview that they should look at both himself and Billie. I guess that is a bit open ended. It would help to know the tone and the exact question from LE. For example did LE say something like "If you were us, who would you be looking at with regards to Haileys disappearance"? For Shawn to tell Del that "killing a 13 year old is like gutting a deer?" He was obviously trying to get a reaction. He tells LE during a lie detector test to "look for Hailey in Scurry county?". Again, we do not know how the question was posed, but it makes no sense to me why he would not just say "I have no idea where someone would look for Hailey". Sometimes he appears dumb as dirt and other times he appears smart and devious.

Edit to add link to document.  MB
http://media.reporternews.com/media/static/0113_001_.pdf
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« Reply #722 on: March 28, 2011, 12:00:42 AM »

Sorry, forgot the document! http://media.reporternews.com/media/static/0113_001_.pdf
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« Reply #723 on: March 28, 2011, 12:15:38 AM »

This was snipped from a post of Janet's in thread nine.  Sebastian -  Please link back to Janet's post.  MB

Edit to add link (Thank you for providing it, Janet) MB
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« Reply #121 on: March 09, 2011, 12:36:49 AM »

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9511.msg1313625;topicseen#msg1313625

Shawn's mother and brother live in the home in Big Spring where the computer that contained child porn was confiscated by investigators.

Also ... there is a Steve Walker.  Is he Christina's husband?

Then there is the boat owner ... Brad Roberts.  Where does he fit into the picture.  Apparently ... Brad also resides at 2807 Apache Drive.

In the March 3rd BTHN interview ... Shawn absolves his mother and brother and himself from implication in the accessing of child porn but not Steve Walker ... not Brad Roberts.  Why?

I know that I am playing the devil's adovcate but ... I have a little nagging doubt regarding Shawn's association with child porn.  I could be wrong but after thinking about it ... my instincts tell me that Shawn's attorney would be telling him to zip it in regards to the child porn issue if he wasn't convinced that his client was revealing the truth.  After all ... computer techs have ways of determining who and when this stuff was downloaded ... accessed.

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Did anyone ever determine who Brad Roberts is? I keep wondering why Shawn has not been arrested with regards to the kiddie porn. I am not super computer suavie. Let's just say for the sake of argument that Shawn did not know there was kiddie porn on his mother's computer. When he downloaded whatever he wanted to download onto the drive that they found in Billie's drawer, would it automatically include the kiddie porn? What I am trying to ask is, if Shawn downloaded family photos from his mom's computer, could there have been kiddie porn on there that he may not have known was on there? I hope I am making sense!
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« Reply #724 on: March 28, 2011, 12:17:35 AM »

Some update photos and article about the Vigil on March 27, 2011--


http://www.facebook.com/album.php?fbid=161390527251742&id=141796342544494&aid=34930

3 Month Prayer Vigil for Hailey Dunn by Cat Geiger.
By Help Find Hailey Dunn · View Photos.



http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/hailey-dunn-update-missing-3-months-community-holds-candle-vigil

Hailey Dunn Update: Missing 3 months, community holds candlelight vigil (Video)March 27th, 2011 8:14 pm ET .
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« Reply #725 on: March 28, 2011, 12:22:47 AM »

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=161403780583750&set=a.161403747250420.34937.141796342544494&theater

Pictures of tonight's vigil

My observations:   Billie seems to be bewildered by the candle, once removed in a sense...her boo isnt with her, gee wonder why that might be.  Clint helped with the set up & has Naomi by his side & what seems to be a gathering around him.

OK now here is the kicker...sit and brace yourselves

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27339854/detail.html

Family, Friends Mark Three Months Since Hailey Dunn's Disappearance
By Cassandra Garcia, KTXS News
POSTED: 10:35 pm CDT March 27, 2011

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Friends and family gathered at Ruddick Park in Colorado City on Sunday to pray for the safe return of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn, who's been missing for three months.
About 50 people showed up to light candles and sign pictures in hopes Hailey's case will be solved.
 ::snipping2::
Hailey's father says the three-month mark only makes him more determined to search.
"I want to thank everybody that's still supporting this and still has hope for Hailey," said Clint Dunn, Hailey's father. "I'm just spreading the word. I'm trying to get it out of Texas and out to states, and I'm trying to spread awareness."
Hailey's mother also told KTXS another candlelight vigil will be held at the six-month mark of her disappearance.


Why the H would a mother be so quick to say that so matter of factly, she's telling us she has no hope Hailey could return sooner (or at all).

NOTE:   There may be video up later tonight or tomorrow at the above link because it aired locally on their broadcast
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« Reply #726 on: March 28, 2011, 12:56:02 AM »

OMG.  Did you see that Clint is wearing a Hailey shirt with a Hailey button, and Billie is wearing a Colorado hoodie?  What is wrong with her?  It's a vigil for her missing daughter! 

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?fbid=161390527251742&id=141796342544494&aid=34930
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« Reply #727 on: March 28, 2011, 01:42:01 AM »

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=161403780583750&set=a.161403747250420.34937.141796342544494&theater

Pictures of tonight's vigil

My observations:   Billie seems to be bewildered by the candle, once removed in a sense...her boo isnt with her, gee wonder why that might be.  Clint helped with the set up & has Naomi by his side & what seems to be a gathering around him.

OK now here is the kicker...sit and brace yourselves

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27339854/detail.html

Family, Friends Mark Three Months Since Hailey Dunn's Disappearance
By Cassandra Garcia, KTXS News
POSTED: 10:35 pm CDT March 27, 2011

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Friends and family gathered at Ruddick Park in Colorado City on Sunday to pray for the safe return of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn, who's been missing for three months.
About 50 people showed up to light candles and sign pictures in hopes Hailey's case will be solved.
 ::snipping2::
Hailey's father says the three-month mark only makes him more determined to search.
"I want to thank everybody that's still supporting this and still has hope for Hailey," said Clint Dunn, Hailey's father. "I'm just spreading the word. I'm trying to get it out of Texas and out to states, and I'm trying to spread awareness."
Hailey's mother also told KTXS another candlelight vigil will be held at the six-month mark of her disappearance.


Why the H would a mother be so quick to say that so matter of factly, she's telling us she has no hope Hailey could return sooner (or at all).

NOTE:   There may be video up later tonight or tomorrow at the above link because it aired locally on their broadcast
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« Reply #728 on: March 28, 2011, 01:43:15 AM »

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=161403780583750&set=a.161403747250420.34937.141796342544494&theater

Pictures of tonight's vigil

My observations:   Billie seems to be bewildered by the candle, once removed in a sense...her boo isnt with her, gee wonder why that might be.  Clint helped with the set up & has Naomi by his side & what seems to be a gathering around him.

OK now here is the kicker...sit and brace yourselves

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27339854/detail.html

Family, Friends Mark Three Months Since Hailey Dunn's Disappearance
By Cassandra Garcia, KTXS News
POSTED: 10:35 pm CDT March 27, 2011

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Friends and family gathered at Ruddick Park in Colorado City on Sunday to pray for the safe return of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn, who's been missing for three months.
About 50 people showed up to light candles and sign pictures in hopes Hailey's case will be solved.
 ::snipping2::
Hailey's father says the three-month mark only makes him more determined to search.
"I want to thank everybody that's still supporting this and still has hope for Hailey," said Clint Dunn, Hailey's father. "I'm just spreading the word. I'm trying to get it out of Texas and out to states, and I'm trying to spread awareness."
Hailey's mother also told KTXS another candlelight vigil will be held at the six-month mark of her disappearance.


Why the H would a mother be so quick to say that so matter of factly, she's telling us she has no hope Hailey could return sooner (or at all).

NOTE:   There may be video up later tonight or tomorrow at the above link because it aired locally on their broadcast
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« Reply #729 on: March 28, 2011, 02:20:30 AM »

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=161403780583750&set=a.161403747250420.34937.141796342544494&theater

Pictures of tonight's vigil

My observations:   Billie seems to be bewildered by the candle, once removed in a sense...her boo isnt with her, gee wonder why that might be.  Clint helped with the set up & has Naomi by his side & what seems to be a gathering around him.

OK now here is the kicker...sit and brace yourselves

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27339854/detail.html

Family, Friends Mark Three Months Since Hailey Dunn's Disappearance
By Cassandra Garcia, KTXS News
POSTED: 10:35 pm CDT March 27, 2011

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Friends and family gathered at Ruddick Park in Colorado City on Sunday to pray for the safe return of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn, who's been missing for three months.
About 50 people showed up to light candles and sign pictures in hopes Hailey's case will be solved.
 ::snipping2::
Hailey's father says the three-month mark only makes him more determined to search.
"I want to thank everybody that's still supporting this and still has hope for Hailey," said Clint Dunn, Hailey's father. "I'm just spreading the word. I'm trying to get it out of Texas and out to states, and I'm trying to spread awareness."
Hailey's mother also told KTXS another candlelight vigil will be held at the six-month mark of her disappearance.


Why the H would a mother be so quick to say that so matter of factly, she's telling us she has no hope Hailey could return sooner (or at all).

NOTE:   There may be video up later tonight or tomorrow at the above link because it aired locally on their broadcast

Wow!  Has her brain been fried on drugs?

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« Reply #730 on: March 28, 2011, 02:22:05 AM »

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=161403780583750&set=a.161403747250420.34937.141796342544494&theater

Pictures of tonight's vigil

My observations:   Billie seems to be bewildered by the candle, once removed in a sense...her boo isnt with her, gee wonder why that might be.  Clint helped with the set up & has Naomi by his side & what seems to be a gathering around him.

OK now here is the kicker...sit and brace yourselves

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27339854/detail.html

Family, Friends Mark Three Months Since Hailey Dunn's Disappearance
By Cassandra Garcia, KTXS News
POSTED: 10:35 pm CDT March 27, 2011

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Friends and family gathered at Ruddick Park in Colorado City on Sunday to pray for the safe return of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn, who's been missing for three months.
About 50 people showed up to light candles and sign pictures in hopes Hailey's case will be solved.
 ::snipping2::
Hailey's father says the three-month mark only makes him more determined to search.
"I want to thank everybody that's still supporting this and still has hope for Hailey," said Clint Dunn, Hailey's father. "I'm just spreading the word. I'm trying to get it out of Texas and out to states, and I'm trying to spread awareness."
Hailey's mother also told KTXS another candlelight vigil will be held at the six-month mark of her disappearance.


Why the H would a mother be so quick to say that so matter of factly, she's telling us she has no hope Hailey could return sooner (or at all).

NOTE:   There may be video up later tonight or tomorrow at the above link because it aired locally on their broadcast

Wow!  Has her brain been fried on drugs?



Seriously...she has such an awkward way of speaking - almost like things just come out wrong....is there a "real" problem with her or is that what happens when you open your mouth and words fall out before passing your brain.  Sorry...disgusting!
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« Reply #731 on: March 28, 2011, 04:13:06 AM »

I have decided to go back to page 1. If I post things that have been posted before, please forgive me. I just want to get your take on some of these things. Here is the neighbor that reported that the neighbor he kicked out was not reliable. He was in prison too.

http://justice.co.tom-green.tx.us/Scripts/UVlink.isa/tgcrisc/WEBSERV/JailSearch?action%253Dview%26track%253D354469
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« Reply #732 on: March 28, 2011, 09:12:08 AM »

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=161403780583750&set=a.161403747250420.34937.141796342544494&theater

Pictures of tonight's vigil

My observations:   Billie seems to be bewildered by the candle, once removed in a sense...her boo isnt with her, gee wonder why that might be.  Clint helped with the set up & has Naomi by his side & what seems to be a gathering around him.

OK now here is the kicker...sit and brace yourselves

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27339854/detail.html

Family, Friends Mark Three Months Since Hailey Dunn's Disappearance
By Cassandra Garcia, KTXS News
POSTED: 10:35 pm CDT March 27, 2011

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Friends and family gathered at Ruddick Park in Colorado City on Sunday to pray for the safe return of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn, who's been missing for three months.
About 50 people showed up to light candles and sign pictures in hopes Hailey's case will be solved.
 ::snipping2::
Hailey's father says the three-month mark only makes him more determined to search.
"I want to thank everybody that's still supporting this and still has hope for Hailey," said Clint Dunn, Hailey's father. "I'm just spreading the word. I'm trying to get it out of Texas and out to states, and I'm trying to spread awareness."
Hailey's mother also told KTXS another candlelight vigil will be held at the six-month mark of her disappearance.


Why the H would a mother be so quick to say that so matter of factly, she's telling us she has no hope Hailey could return sooner (or at all).

NOTE:   There may be video up later tonight or tomorrow at the above link because it aired locally on their broadcast

Wow!  Has her brain been fried on drugs?



not sure if Billie has no hope or more that she KNOWS that Hailey won't be returning ....
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« Reply #733 on: March 28, 2011, 10:08:30 AM »

You're right, if her atty is there you can't see him and she has to be the stupidest biatch ever dropped on the planet.  Who says that about their child??????  Poor Clint, he's not well versed either but dammit if he isn't out there trying to do something for his little girl!  There does seem to be a shift in the crowd more towards CD.  I hope BD felt totally alone and isolated during this.  You know she only came because she found out a news station would be televising a portion of it.  Wonder if she made that stupid statement just hoping they would put her on tv?  Oh my, that's almost funny they gave her one line in print and no face time!  How you like that Billie?  You get the hint yet?  Tell a news station what you really know and I promise they will put you on tv!  Gotta go to work, y'all have a wonderful day.
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« Reply #734 on: March 28, 2011, 10:48:02 AM »

This was snipped from a post of Janet's in thread nine.

Shawn's mother and brother live in the home in Big Spring where the computer that contained child porn was confiscated by investigators.

Also ... there is a Steve Walker.  Is he Christina's husband?

Then there is the boat owner ... Brad Roberts.  Where does he fit into the picture.  Apparently ... Brad also resides at 2807 Apache Drive.

In the March 3rd BTHN interview ... Shawn absolves his mother and brother and himself from implication in the accessing of child porn but not Steve Walker ... not Brad Roberts.  Why?

I know that I am playing the devil's adovcate but ... I have a little nagging doubt regarding Shawn's association with child porn.  I could be wrong but after thinking about it ... my instincts tell me that Shawn's attorney would be telling him to zip it in regards to the child porn issue if he wasn't convinced that his client was revealing the truth.  After all ... computer techs have ways of determining who and when this stuff was downloaded ... accessed.

Janet


Did anyone ever determine who Brad Roberts is? I keep wondering why Shawn has not been arrested with regards to the kiddie porn. I am not super computer suavie. Let's just say for the sake of argument that Shawn did not know there was kiddie porn on his mother's computer. When he downloaded whatever he wanted to download onto the drive that they found in Billie's drawer, would it automatically include the kiddie porn? What I am trying to ask is, if Shawn downloaded family photos from his mom's computer, could there have been kiddie porn on there that he may not have known was on there? I hope I am making sense!

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« Reply #121 on: March 09, 2011, 12:36:49 AM »

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9511.msg1313625;topicseen#msg1313625
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When I posted the above words ... it had not been revealed that child porn was found on Shawn's cell.  It had not been revealed that there was child porn discovered on the computer at his mothers home also.  There were media reports that no child porn was on the memory stick.  The computer at the home of Shawn's mother was the only issue.

However ... when the huge volume of images are considered ... could it be that Shawn AND others were involved in the child porn industry?

It is my hope that investigators are connecting the dots and ... this is why Shawn Atkins has not yet been arrested for possession of child porn.

My position still remains firm in regards to Billie.  I do not believe that she was a player in the direct happenings encompassing the disappearance of her daughter but ... she unwittingly set the stage by not putting the well-being of her children above all.

Janet

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KTXS EXCLUSIVE: More Child Porn Found Connected To Suspect In Hailey Dunn Case
POSTED: 12:36 pm CDT March 18, 2011
UPDATED: 3:38 pm CDT March 18, 2011


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Adkins' grandmother's home in southern Scurry County is the same home where investigators served the warrant Thursday and took electronic devices. Another resident of that home told authorities that Adkins used the computer "all the time," according to the affidavit.

The warrant also mentions that two Kodak Easy Share cameras were in the home, and that some of the pornographic images were taken or transmitted via a Kodak Easy Share camera. Investigators planned to seize the two cameras, among the many other devices, looking for more evidence.

The warrant, issued by District Judge Ernie Armstrong in Scurry County, gave law enforcement the right to take cameras, cell phones, computers, printers and other devices that may contain child pornography.

J. Bruce Flournoy, a deputy with the Garza County Sheriff's Office and computer forensics expert, requested the warrant.

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LOTS MORE:
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html
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« Reply #735 on: March 28, 2011, 11:02:48 AM »

I do not claim any pyschic abilities but I will predict ... Peter Hyatt is going to have a field day in regards to the the following words of Billie Dunn.

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Family, Friends Mark Three Months Since Hailey Dunn's Disappearance
POSTED: 10:35 pm CDT March 27, 2011
UPDATED: 7:28 am CDT March 28, 2011


COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Friends and family gathered at Ruddick Park in Colorado City on Sunday to pray for the safe return of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn, who's been missing for three months.

<snipped>

Hailey's mother also told KTXS another candlelight vigil will be held at the six-month mark of her disappearance.

http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/27339854/detail.html
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« Reply #736 on: March 28, 2011, 11:09:16 AM »

OMG.  Did you see that Clint is wearing a Hailey shirt with a Hailey button, and Billie is wearing a Colorado hoodie?  What is wrong with her?  It's a vigil for her missing daughter! 

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?fbid=161390527251742&id=141796342544494&aid=34930
Grace, it is my personal opinion Billie knows Hailey is not coming back . . . no need for a shirt or button, just a need for another vigil is 6 months.  It makes me very sad.
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« Reply #737 on: March 28, 2011, 11:41:41 AM »

Hi Janet,
It is driving me nuts that Shawn has not been arrested for the kiddie porn. Having said that, I don't know what the typical length of time is for an arrest of this nature. I wonder if they are trying to see how many charges to file? The kiddie porn is a big hang up for me. I spent hours going through these threads last night and I am still not anywhere close to being done. I have tried to put the kiddie porn aside in my mind and look at this and all of the players evenly. The thing with the kiddie porn is this. I would think, (and I sure could be wrong), that if the kiddie porn involved very young children, that Shawn would be sitting in a prison cell right now. I cannot help but wonder if the girls or boys or both in question in the porn LOOK young. For example, an 18 year old that looks 14? If that is the case than LE would have to PROVE the ages before charges could be brought. So, with this mind set for the moment, what else do we have on Shawn? He was allegedly the last person to see Hailey and he lied about going straight to Grandma's on the day Hailey disappeared. He is into slasher movies and likes to wear masks. From what we have heard, Hailey did not like him, but we have also heard that she wanted her parents back together. My problem AT THE MOMENT, is this. Colorado City is a tiny little town with a very high crime rate. There are 10 sex offenders in that tiny little town and a whole host of others with criminal records. There are two things that I am having a hard time wrapping my head around with regards to Shawn. 1. He has known Hailey for over 2 years and has lived with her for 4 months. Why would Shawn chose to harm her now? 2. Shawn had to know after Hailey went missing that LE would be all over him. Why did he not get rid of the kiddie porn? Yes, Shawn appears to have some serious issues with regards to masks, slasher movies et all. There are many in that town with much more serious issues such as the registered sex offenders, one of whom is HIGH risk. Again, I am not saying that Shawn did not do something to Hailey, I am just trying to look at other angles.
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« Reply #738 on: March 28, 2011, 11:50:05 AM »

The other question that I have is the car that Shawn and Billie shared. Is it true that Shawn's truck was not running at the time Hailey disappeared? Have the truck and Billie's car been searched thoroughly by LE? If so, was anything found? Also, I am assuming that based on the low income levels in Colorado City that many of the residents are unemployed. How could Shawn get Hailey out of the house and into a vehicle without being noticed? Again, I am only playing devils advocate.
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« Reply #739 on: March 28, 2011, 12:11:15 PM »

As for these psychics.....I think they are all full of hooey !
Not one has done a thing for any of these cases.
I do feel that we all can develop our abilities to
become sensitive to situations, and use ur gut,
but if the psychics were capable of what they claim......
THEN WHY HAVEN'T ONE OF THEM TOLD US WHERE
THE LAST 2 HAILEY'S ARE ???
Yuppers, HOOEY !
I saw this show the night  it was on. The interviewer showed the renowned psychic a child's pic, of herself,
and wanted to know where she was and how she died. When the host told her it was indeed of her, the psychic got
very angry and left ! HOOEY, like I said ! These people offer false hope to the loved ones of the missing,
and drain their funds ! HOOEY !

I fell asleep on the sofa a few weeks back and woke up to a story (one of the investigative programs?) about  a psychic. The psychic was shown a photo of the interviewer when she was child. This woman proceeded to tell the interviewer about how the child in the photo died etc. Did anyone else see the story? I wish I could remember the psychic's name.

I found the link  

http://www.insideedition.com/videos/847/inside-edition-investigates-psychic-detectives-who-claim-to-find-missing-persons.aspx
Thank you for the interesting link.  Monkeys, we've had the the psychic pros/cons discussions before on our MP threads and it's better to move on and not derail this thread with further discussion about it especially concerning other cases.  Let's keep this thread about Hailey Dunn.  MB
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Why do people kill people,who kill people, to show people that to kill people is bad ?
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