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« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2011, 03:14:01 PM »

I would also like to add something else. First of all, I am in NO WAY defending Billie or Shawn. However, I have done some sleuthing of my own. So many of the people that are stirring the pot and posting false rumors have criminal records of their own. They also have had drug histories much more serious than what Billie and Shawn have been accused of. In fact, I am just going to say it. Billie Dunn has worked the majority of her life supporting her children with little or no help from any man. Even though she had a serious disfunctional life growing up, she managed to better herself. She went to school and got a nursing license. She is clean and tidy and keeps a very nice home for her children. I have no idea what drew her to Shawn or if she watched any of the disgusting beastiality movies etc with Shawn. I have no idea why she apparently thinks he may be innocent of any wrong doing towards her daughter. I have no idea why she has not put forth much effort at all to look for Hailey. These are the things that bother me as well. I have been in touch with people close to this case and I would just like people to realise that there are MANY people close to the case and in that area that ALSO should be looked at. There is a childs life at stake. An innocent little girl who did nothing to no one. An innocent little girl that should be at school today enjoying her friends. It all makes me sick! There are some seriously sick and high risk sex offenders in that area. There are also a lot of drug addicts and other criminals. I hope LE is keeping a close eye on these Hailey blogs and seeing who is has the biggest spoon in the pot stirring contest. JMO

While I respect your points of view, I must say I have to disagree with Billie being portrayed in a positive light.   She had her nursing license revoked & was caught stealing things from work.   She is a drug addict & no she has not raised her children in a responsible, decent manner in many respects.   She had no business whatsoever to have Shawn in their home & certainly not after what has come out but yet she did while defending him.  She failed her poly & refused to take another in addition to refusing to be cooperative with LE.   CPS came to her home and advised her that it was recommended that her son be placed elsewhere & if she didnt comply they would have done so by other means (court ordered).   He was not removed due to hecklers as Billie stated to the public, yet she let him go instead of ending her relationship with the only named suspect in this case...to me that speaks volumes as to what type of mother she can be portrayed as.   She currently has 3 criminal charges she has to answer to as opposed to aiding in the investigation as to what happened to her daughter....to me there is a reason for that & its not coming from an innocent place.  I have to agree that speaking to family members & others locally can only provide so much & yes some of it can be jaded for whatever reason but I can assure all of you that LE knows more than the public or those individuals do & eventually that will come to light which I cannot expound on further for obvious reasons.  I dont give a dang about tattoos or piercings even though I wouldnt get them, I care about one's character & how they live by example.   Its rather difficult to consider other persons of interest when everything points to the fact that Hailey never left her house from the evening before 12/26.  If any of that makes me judgmental, so be it but I can live with that very comfortably.   

As far as Carrie goes, while I respect the fact that she is a surviving mother by her daughter's heinous murder & feels compelled to help others surviving that horror, I cannot agree completely with what she is doing in this case.   She is no different than anyone else in that regard.  Right now, she is supporting a POI in a criminal investigation and I cannot agree whatsoever with that action.  In a different capacity she came to our pages to give her opinion & express her views.  In her own words she spoke of her angst for being judged herself so if people recognize that bias its only affirming what she expressed herself.   I can completely appreciate feeling hurt by being scrutinized unjustly but that doesnt mean it should cloud one's view when another individual is scrutinized with merit.  There is plenty before her in this case that should have given her great pause, Mark Klass leaving his support with just cause as an example for her if she doesnt want to listen to anyone else.  Carrie's desire to help other families & ability to reserve judgment is to be respected in so many cases admirably so long as it doesnt include supporting a POI/suspect unless they were totally cleared in that criminal investigation.   If Carrie chose to help Hailey's family that didnt include supporting Billie (in turn Shawn) the situation would be entirely different.   That being said, I wish her continued learned wisdom & all the best in her future advocacy endeavors. 
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« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2011, 03:25:41 PM »

Clint mother's knew what was going on at the house across the field.  Logic dictates that Clint was made aware.  Hey ... Connie says it how it is.

As parents ... both Clint and Billie need to take equal responsibility for the chain of events that led up to the disappearance of their daughter ... the chain of events that neither did anything to stop.  Nevertheless ... Billie is being vilified while Clint is being given a pass.  I consider the upholding of Clint as nothing short of abetting.

I don't give either parent a pass.  It appears that their respective lifestyle choices took priority over the well being of Hailey and continues to do so.  Think about it ... both Clint and Billie are aware of the affidavits the reveal Shawn Adkins's lies and deception regarding his actions and whereabouts on the morning of December 27.  If Hailey were my precious granddaughter ... I would be going up one side of Shawn and down the other in my quest for answers.

Rant over.

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« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2011, 03:30:17 PM »

An arrest, just not what I was hoping for...

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ailey's Dad Arrested after Showing Up Late to Court

Reported by: Tim Johnston and Jessica Reyes
Wednesday, April 06 2011
The father of missing 13-year-old Hailey Dunn was arrested this morning after showing up late to a scheduled court appearance.

Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs said by the time Clint Dunn had arrived, the judge had already issued a warrant for his arrest.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=358376

Some people have to learn the hard way, don't they?  I really hate to say this, but I hope people don't rush to bail him out this time.  He needs to find his own way to get himself out of trouble, or he'll just lean on that crutch even harder and he will never learn to be a man on his own.  I'd say let him stew in there a while unless he himself has worked by the toil of his own hands to save enough money that he can pay his bail portion.



Well, even if he states he was out looking for his daughter, he could have made this appearance on time & been done in a relatively short period of tiem so he could get back to that.   Considering we are over the 3 month mark, I think its fair to say he has to be aware that news wasnt on the verge of breaking & even if it did they would have excused him and rescheduled so he could get to where he needed to be.   Nope, cant defend him on this.
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« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2011, 03:52:55 PM »

Neither Clint nor Billie were willing to make the necessary lifestyle choices to protect Hailey and David from the known unsafe environment that existed within their own home ... protect Hailey and David from the known enemy in their midst.

Janet

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Hailey Dunn: Transcript: Clint Dunn’s Mother, Connie Jones, Radio Interview Feb 23

Host: Has he been known to violently hurt people?

<snipped>

Connie: Well, he’s threatened me and my son, and the police down here in Snyder, Texas, they know that, because they come over here and listened to the tape, ’cause it was on my answering machine, and he threatened both Clint and I.

Host: What did he say?
 
Connie: He said he was gonna get a gun and come over here and kill everybody in my house, and it was just me and Clint at the time, and he thought Clint and Billie Jean were still seeing each other. Clint was through with her. He didn’t want her. He didn’t want her anymore.

Host: What do you say when she says that he could never hurt anybody?

Connie: I don’t know what he means about that, I mean…

Host: She said it to us that…

Connie: … he came over here one night, and him and Clinton got into a fight in my front yard, and well, Clinton, he’s been into martial arts for a while, and he’s put the man to sleep on my front yard, and he woke up, and he went out, went over to his car, and he’d be fiddling around in his backseat.
 
The cops arrested him, and he had a club back there with nails all the way through it, all the way through the club.
 
I guess he was going to try and get the club, and kill Clint.  I don’t know, but the cops took the club, so they still have the club down there at the police station. I’m sure they didn’t release it to him, ’cause it was a weapon.

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http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/hailey-dunn-transcript-clint-dunns-mother-connie-jones-radio-interview-feb-23/


Missing Texas Girl Hailey Dunn 'Scared' of Shawn Adkins
Grandmother Says Adkins Would Stand in Girl's Bedroom Doorway and Watch Her
Jan. 13, 2011


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Hailey told her grandmother that Adkins would pace around the house at night, talking on his cell phone in the bathroom and peering into her bedroom.

"She had told me on a couple of occasions that...he walked around at night and she said that she could see his shadow standing at her door. She said, 'Nana, he scared me. I'm afraid he's going to come in there,'" Jones said.

<snipped>

http://abcnews.go.com/US/shawn-adkins-named-person-interst-case-missing-texas/story?id=12608537
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« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2011, 03:58:00 PM »

Then there were the 911 calls ... 911 calls that reveal that Shawn Adkins threatened the lives of Clint, Billie and Hailey.

Why did Billie allow Shawn to move in?  Why did Clint not do what was needed to be down in regards to his lifestyle choices that would put himself in a position to challenge Billie for custody of Hailey.  Hailey was at an age that she would have a say if both parents were deemed fit.

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« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2011, 04:30:56 PM »

I have not read ANYTHING official which implies that Billie Dunn is a person of interest in regards to the happenings encompassing the disappearance of her daughter.  Until then my theory implies that neither Clint nor Billie were participants.  However ... I believe that the distancing of Shawn Adkins ... Shawn Adkins the official suspect in the disappearance of their daughter ... implies that both of Hailey's parents are aware of the truth.

Janet

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MARCH 21, 2011

Affidavits: Adkins Search Warrants Linked to Child Porn
Monday, March 21 2011


<snipped>

No arrests were made Friday. “We’re hoping there’ll be arrests down the road,” said Toombs, adding that tips continue to come in. “We are still searching on the leads that we get.” He also said Dunn has not been named as a person of interest. But, “her arrest yesterday does not help her cause.”

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http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353726

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« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2011, 04:44:12 PM »

I have not read ANYTHING official which implies that Billie Dunn is a person of interest in regards to the happenings encompassing the disappearance of her daughter.  Until then my theory implies that neither Clint nor Billie were participants.  However ... I believe that the distancing of Shawn Adkins ... Shawn Adkins the official suspect in the disappearance of their daughter ... implies that both of Hailey's parents are aware of the truth.

Janet

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MARCH 21, 2011

Affidavits: Adkins Search Warrants Linked to Child Porn
Monday, March 21 2011


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No arrests were made Friday. “We’re hoping there’ll be arrests down the road,” said Toombs, adding that tips continue to come in. “We are still searching on the leads that we get.” He also said Dunn has not been named as a person of interest. But, “her arrest yesterday does not help her cause.”

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http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353726



 
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353096
UPDATE: Hailey Dunn's Mother Arrested on Three Charges
March 17, 2011

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Billie Dunn and Shawn Adkins have both been named "persons of interest" in Hailey disappearance. Adkins is the only named suspect in the case.
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« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2011, 04:45:36 PM »

I would also like to add something else. First of all, I am in NO WAY defending Billie or Shawn. However, I have done some sleuthing of my own. So many of the people that are stirring the pot and posting false rumors have criminal records of their own. They also have had drug histories much more serious than what Billie and Shawn have been accused of. In fact, I am just going to say it. Billie Dunn has worked the majority of her life supporting her children with little or no help from any man. Even though she had a serious disfunctional life growing up, she managed to better herself. She went to school and got a nursing license. She is clean and tidy and keeps a very nice home for her children. I have no idea what drew her to Shawn or if she watched any of the disgusting beastiality movies etc with Shawn. I have no idea why she apparently thinks he may be innocent of any wrong doing towards her daughter. I have no idea why she has not put forth much effort at all to look for Hailey. These are the things that bother me as well. I have been in touch with people close to this case and I would just like people to realise that there are MANY people close to the case and in that area that ALSO should be looked at. There is a childs life at stake. An innocent little girl who did nothing to no one. An innocent little girl that should be at school today enjoying her friends. It all makes me sick! There are some seriously sick and high risk sex offenders in that area. There are also a lot of drug addicts and other criminals. I hope LE is keeping a close eye on these Hailey blogs and seeing who is has the biggest spoon in the pot stirring contest. JMO

While I respect your points of view, I must say I have to disagree with Billie being portrayed in a positive light.   She had her nursing license revoked & was caught stealing things from work.   She is a drug addict & no she has not raised her children in a responsible, decent manner in many respects.   She had no business whatsoever to have Shawn in their home & certainly not after what has come out but yet she did while defending him.  She failed her poly & refused to take another in addition to refusing to be cooperative with LE.   CPS came to her home and advised her that it was recommended that her son be placed elsewhere & if she didnt comply they would have done so by other means (court ordered).   He was not removed due to hecklers as Billie stated to the public, yet she let him go instead of ending her relationship with the only named suspect in this case...to me that speaks volumes as to what type of mother she can be portrayed as.   She currently has 3 criminal charges she has to answer to as opposed to aiding in the investigation as to what happened to her daughter....to me there is a reason for that & its not coming from an innocent place.  I have to agree that speaking to family members & others locally can only provide so much & yes some of it can be jaded for whatever reason but I can assure all of you that LE knows more than the public or those individuals do & eventually that will come to light which I cannot expound on further for obvious reasons.  I dont give a dang about tattoos or piercings even though I wouldnt get them, I care about one's character & how they live by example.   Its rather difficult to consider other persons of interest when everything points to the fact that Hailey never left her house from the evening before 12/26.  If any of that makes me judgmental, so be it but I can live with that very comfortably.   

As far as Carrie goes, while I respect the fact that she is a surviving mother by her daughter's heinous murder & feels compelled to help others surviving that horror, I cannot agree completely with what she is doing in this case.   She is no different than anyone else in that regard.  Right now, she is supporting a POI in a criminal investigation and I cannot agree whatsoever with that action.  In a different capacity she came to our pages to give her opinion & express her views.  In her own words she spoke of her angst for being judged herself so if people recognize that bias its only affirming what she expressed herself.   I can completely appreciate feeling hurt by being scrutinized unjustly but that doesnt mean it should cloud one's view when another individual is scrutinized with merit.  There is plenty before her in this case that should have given her great pause, Mark Klass leaving his support with just cause as an example for her if she doesnt want to listen to anyone else.  Carrie's desire to help other families & ability to reserve judgment is to be respected in so many cases admirably so long as it doesnt include supporting a POI/suspect unless they were totally cleared in that criminal investigation.   If Carrie chose to help Hailey's family that didnt include supporting Billie (in turn Shawn) the situation would be entirely different.   That being said, I wish her continued learned wisdom & all the best in her future advocacy endeavors. 

Hi Capp,
I appreciate where you are coming from. I do not advocate ANY of the actions by ANY of this family with regards to Hailey. I was was trying to point out, that until Shawn came into the picture, it looks to me like Billie was trying to better her life and that of the lives of her children ON HER OWN. I was also trying to point out, and it is sometimes hard to do in writing, that many of those in that area that are pointing fingers have horrendous skeletons in their own closets. Many of those have not held down a job, provided a decent home for their children and have done drugs themselves and continue to do so. There is also a slew of other criminal filings. Luckily for them, THEIR actions or lack there of, have not led to the disappearance of one of THEIR children. I guess it just drives me nuts that so many of those casting stones are far from stellar themselves. I do not know 100% what happened to Hailey. It sure looks like Shawn may be the culprit, but the more I dig, the more it becomes one giant ugly rats nest there. I just don't want anyone to ASSUME that Hailey is dead, when her body is not found. It seems to me that LE would put a lot more effort into finding Hailey if there was even a slight chance that she were alive. I also don't want anyone to ASSUME that Shawn is the only seedy person in that area that could have harmed Hailey to the extent of not looking elsewhere. If Shawn is guilty, I want the charges to stick! I am assuming that many locals in the area read here. I would like to state that based on everything that I have read about the area, the high crime etc, it is NOT o.k. to let your children roam these streets. I don't understand the small town mentality of "we know everyone here, so it is o.k. to let my child walk the streets. IT IS NOT O.K. That is not Mayberry, and even if it were, I am sure even Mayberry had criminals and sex offenders.

With regards to Carrie. Carrie is not on anyones side per say. She is trying to remain neutral and offer assistance to ANYONE that needs it with regards to searches, vigils and keeping Hailey's name out there. People are getting bent out of shape because Carrie is telling the family how to keep Hailey's name alive and I guess I just don't understand that. To my knowledge, Carrie has never publicly stated who she suspects or does not suspect. The only side Carrie is on is Hailey's. JMO
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« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2011, 05:01:20 PM »

I have not read ANYTHING official which implies that Billie Dunn is a person of interest in regards to the happenings encompassing the disappearance of her daughter.  Until then my theory implies that neither Clint nor Billie were participants.  However ... I believe that the distancing of Shawn Adkins ... Shawn Adkins the official suspect in the disappearance of their daughter ... implies that both of Hailey's parents are aware of the truth.

Janet

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MARCH 21, 2011

Affidavits: Adkins Search Warrants Linked to Child Porn
Monday, March 21 2011


<snipped>

No arrests were made Friday. “We’re hoping there’ll be arrests down the road,” said Toombs, adding that tips continue to come in. “We are still searching on the leads that we get.” He also said Dunn has not been named as a person of interest. But, “her arrest yesterday does not help her cause.”

<snipped>

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353726



 
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353096
UPDATE: Hailey Dunn's Mother Arrested on Three Charges
March 17, 2011

 ::snipping2::
Billie Dunn and Shawn Adkins have both been named "persons of interest" in Hailey disappearance. Adkins is the only named suspect in the case.
 ::snipping2::

Sebastian

I am aware that media sources have dubbed Billie Dunn as a person of interest but ... official sources (Toombs/Kampfer) have always made it clear that Biillie is NOT a person of interest in their quotes .

On March 21, 2011 ... Sheriff Toombs was quoted stating Billie was not a suspect.  (See above)

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« Reply #29 on: April 06, 2011, 05:05:00 PM »

SELF-EDIT - MY LAST POST

Sheriff Toombs was quoted stating Billie was not a suspect.

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Sheriff Toombs was quoted stating Billie was not a person of interest.
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I would also like to add something else. First of all, I am in NO WAY defending Billie or Shawn. However, I have done some sleuthing of my own. So many of the people that are stirring the pot and posting false rumors have criminal records of their own. They also have had drug histories much more serious than what Billie and Shawn have been accused of. In fact, I am just going to say it. Billie Dunn has worked the majority of her life supporting her children with little or no help from any man. Even though she had a serious disfunctional life growing up, she managed to better herself. She went to school and got a nursing license. She is clean and tidy and keeps a very nice home for her children. I have no idea what drew her to Shawn or if she watched any of the disgusting beastiality movies etc with Shawn. I have no idea why she apparently thinks he may be innocent of any wrong doing towards her daughter. I have no idea why she has not put forth much effort at all to look for Hailey. These are the things that bother me as well. I have been in touch with people close to this case and I would just like people to realise that there are MANY people close to the case and in that area that ALSO should be looked at. There is a childs life at stake. An innocent little girl who did nothing to no one. An innocent little girl that should be at school today enjoying her friends. It all makes me sick! There are some seriously sick and high risk sex offenders in that area. There are also a lot of drug addicts and other criminals. I hope LE is keeping a close eye on these Hailey blogs and seeing who is has the biggest spoon in the pot stirring contest. JMO

While I respect your points of view, I must say I have to disagree with Billie being portrayed in a positive light.   She had her nursing license revoked & was caught stealing things from work.   She is a drug addict & no she has not raised her children in a responsible, decent manner in many respects.   She had no business whatsoever to have Shawn in their home & certainly not after what has come out but yet she did while defending him.  She failed her poly & refused to take another in addition to refusing to be cooperative with LE.   CPS came to her home and advised her that it was recommended that her son be placed elsewhere & if she didnt comply they would have done so by other means (court ordered).   He was not removed due to hecklers as Billie stated to the public, yet she let him go instead of ending her relationship with the only named suspect in this case...to me that speaks volumes as to what type of mother she can be portrayed as.   She currently has 3 criminal charges she has to answer to as opposed to aiding in the investigation as to what happened to her daughter....to me there is a reason for that & its not coming from an innocent place.  I have to agree that speaking to family members & others locally can only provide so much & yes some of it can be jaded for whatever reason but I can assure all of you that LE knows more than the public or those individuals do & eventually that will come to light which I cannot expound on further for obvious reasons.  I dont give a dang about tattoos or piercings even though I wouldnt get them, I care about one's character & how they live by example.   Its rather difficult to consider other persons of interest when everything points to the fact that Hailey never left her house from the evening before 12/26.  If any of that makes me judgmental, so be it but I can live with that very comfortably.   

As far as Carrie goes, while I respect the fact that she is a surviving mother by her daughter's heinous murder & feels compelled to help others surviving that horror, I cannot agree completely with what she is doing in this case.   She is no different than anyone else in that regard.  Right now, she is supporting a POI in a criminal investigation and I cannot agree whatsoever with that action.  In a different capacity she came to our pages to give her opinion & express her views.  In her own words she spoke of her angst for being judged herself so if people recognize that bias its only affirming what she expressed herself.   I can completely appreciate feeling hurt by being scrutinized unjustly but that doesnt mean it should cloud one's view when another individual is scrutinized with merit.  There is plenty before her in this case that should have given her great pause, Mark Klass leaving his support with just cause as an example for her if she doesnt want to listen to anyone else.  Carrie's desire to help other families & ability to reserve judgment is to be respected in so many cases admirably so long as it doesnt include supporting a POI/suspect unless they were totally cleared in that criminal investigation.   If Carrie chose to help Hailey's family that didnt include supporting Billie (in turn Shawn) the situation would be entirely different.   That being said, I wish her continued learned wisdom & all the best in her future advocacy endeavors. 

Hi Capp,
I appreciate where you are coming from. I do not advocate ANY of the actions by ANY of this family with regards to Hailey. I was was trying to point out, that until Shawn came into the picture, it looks to me like Billie was trying to better her life and that of the lives of her children ON HER OWN. I was also trying to point out, and it is sometimes hard to do in writing, that many of those in that area that are pointing fingers have horrendous skeletons in their own closets. Many of those have not held down a job, provided a decent home for their children and have done drugs themselves and continue to do so. There is also a slew of other criminal filings. Luckily for them, THEIR actions or lack there of, have not led to the disappearance of one of THEIR children. I guess it just drives me nuts that so many of those casting stones are far from stellar themselves. I do not know 100% what happened to Hailey. It sure looks like Shawn may be the culprit, but the more I dig, the more it becomes one giant ugly rats nest there. I just don't want anyone to ASSUME that Hailey is dead, when her body is not found. It seems to me that LE would put a lot more effort into finding Hailey if there was even a slight chance that she were alive. I also don't want anyone to ASSUME that Shawn is the only seedy person in that area that could have harmed Hailey to the extent of not looking elsewhere. If Shawn is guilty, I want the charges to stick! I am assuming that many locals in the area read here. I would like to state that based on everything that I have read about the area, the high crime etc, it is NOT o.k. to let your children roam these streets. I don't understand the small town mentality of "we know everyone here, so it is o.k. to let my child walk the streets. IT IS NOT O.K. That is not Mayberry, and even if it were, I am sure even Mayberry had criminals and sex offenders.

With regards to Carrie. Carrie is not on anyones side per say. She is trying to remain neutral and offer assistance to ANYONE that needs it with regards to searches, vigils and keeping Hailey's name out there. People are getting bent out of shape because Carrie is telling the family how to keep Hailey's name alive and I guess I just don't understand that. To my knowledge, Carrie has never publicly stated who she suspects or does not suspect. The only side Carrie is on is Hailey's. JMO

I equally appreciate your opinions Sebastian.  I agree there a lot of other seedy people in the midst of this convoluted case, this is true but one fact remains the truth lies with Shawn & Billie despite everyone else's wrong doings.  I'm disgusted with quite a bit and at this point by almost every person related to this case for various reasons, be it lifestyle or moral compass.  Now, some may disagree but the evidence as I know it tells me what happened to Hailey occurred in Billie Dunn's home.  We cam discuss the coulda, woulda, shoulda's and the conduct of others that has occurred since exhaustedly but it comes back to the truth lying with Billie & Shawn.   
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« Reply #31 on: April 06, 2011, 05:09:17 PM »

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Sheriff Toombs was quoted stating Billie was not a suspect.

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Sheriff Toombs was quoted stating Billie was not a person of interest.

I can tell you once again that Billie is indeed a person of interest.   I dont care how many conflicting reports there are, the fact is she IS a person of interest.
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I equally appreciate your opinions Sebastian.  I agree there a lot of other seedy people in the midst of this convoluted case, this is true but one fact remains the truth lies with Shawn & Billie despite everyone else's wrong doings.  I'm disgusted with quite a bit and at this point by almost every person related to this case for various reasons, be it lifestyle or moral compass.  Now, some may disagree but the evidence as I know it tells me what happened to Hailey occurred in Billie Dunn's home.  We cam discuss the coulda, woulda, shoulda's and the conduct of others that has occurred since exhaustedly but it comes back to the truth lying with Billie & Shawn.   

Bottom Line!

BOTH Clint and Billie continue to disregard all the past red flags waving at Shawn ... past red flags that indicate their daughter was at risk by distancing the OFFICIAL suspect in the investigation from implication in the happenings encompassing her disappearance.

Something is not right!!

Janet
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« Reply #33 on: April 06, 2011, 05:15:44 PM »

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Sheriff Toombs was quoted stating Billie was not a suspect.

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Sheriff Toombs was quoted stating Billie was not a person of interest.

I can tell you once again that Billie is indeed a person of interest.   I dont care how many conflicting reports there are, the fact is she IS a person of interest.

Toombs and Kampfer are lying?
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« Reply #34 on: April 06, 2011, 05:35:50 PM »

 

I don't know about Mayor Dakan but ... Tamikosmom wants closure ... closure that comes with Shawn Adkins being held accountable by the justice system for the happenings encompassing the morning of December 27th ... the morning Hailey Dunn went missing.

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"We don't necessarily want closure, we want to find Hailey," stated Mayor Dakan.

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« Reply #35 on: April 06, 2011, 05:36:34 PM »

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Sheriff Toombs was quoted stating Billie was not a suspect.

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Sheriff Toombs was quoted stating Billie was not a person of interest.

I can tell you once again that Billie is indeed a person of interest.   I dont care how many conflicting reports there are, the fact is she IS a person of interest.

Toombs and Kampfer are lying?

Janet, they have both stated it and then said otherwise & no Im not saying either are lying.   Im just telling you that TPTB (The powers that be) have stated that she is a person of interest, FACT.
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« Reply #36 on: April 06, 2011, 05:40:50 PM »

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Sheriff Toombs was quoted stating Billie was not a suspect.

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Sheriff Toombs was quoted stating Billie was not a person of interest.

I can tell you once again that Billie is indeed a person of interest.   I dont care how many conflicting reports there are, the fact is she IS a person of interest.

Toombs and Kampfer are lying?

Janet, they have both stated it and then said otherwise & no Im not saying either are lying.   Im just telling you that TPTB (The powers that be) have stated that she is a person of interest, FACT.

A person of interest in the actual happenings encompassing the disappearance of her daughter?

Janet
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« Reply #37 on: April 06, 2011, 05:47:30 PM »

Capp

The implication is that you have inside information.  If you are privy to share with the forum ... why does TPTB not release to the media that BOTH Shawn and Billie are persons of interest.

I have never read a direct quote of Kampfer and/or Toombs which stated that Billie was a person of interest.  However ... I have read several to the contrary.  I would appreciate a link to just one.

Thanks

Janet
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« Reply #38 on: April 06, 2011, 06:22:33 PM »

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Sheriff Toombs was quoted stating Billie was not a suspect.

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Sheriff Toombs was quoted stating Billie was not a person of interest.

I can tell you once again that Billie is indeed a person of interest.   I dont care how many conflicting reports there are, the fact is she IS a person of interest.

Toombs and Kampfer are lying?

Janet, they have both stated it and then said otherwise & no Im not saying either are lying.   Im just telling you that TPTB (The powers that be) have stated that she is a person of interest, FACT.

A person of interest in the actual happenings encompassing the disappearance of her daughter?

Janet

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"It's not something we ever really want to think about because to us, Hailey is still alive," said Patricia Trichel, Hailey's grandmother.

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PT is NOT Hailey's grandmother.  She is only the mother of Hailey's half-sister.  This kind of sloppy journalism drives me nuts.  I have an ex-SIL whose girlfriend continually refers to her mother as my grandchildren's grandmother and it ticks me off big time.   Not because I don't want their to be plenty of people in their lives who love them, but I earned my position as grandmother and I don't share it with pretenders and temporary live-ins.

 
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