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« on: March 19, 2007, 10:18:57 AM »

Let's hope 2007 brings Justice for Natalee

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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2007, 06:10:25 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2007, 06:23:31 PM »

Posted by Carpe in a separate thread by mistake  Wink


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POLICE SPOKESMAN

Edwin Comemencia

MONDAY JUNE 06, 2005

FOXNEWS


Police spokesman Edwin Comemencia said that authorities had not ruled out the possibility that other people were involved. The two men in custody were not among three others described Saturday, JUNE 04, 2005 by police as "persons of interest."

"I think there are more suspects ... we're going to arrest more" people in connection with the case, Comemencia told FOX News on Monday, JUNE 06, 2005.


Comemencia also said that he didn't believe Holloway ever returned to her hotel. "The investigation looks like, that night, she never returned to her hotel," Comemencia told FOX News.

Janssen declined to provide specific charges, saying the case will go before a judge within 48 hours to determine whether they can be legally held. (security guards) She said authorities had not found any of Holloway's belongings at the suspects' homes.

"The charges have a relationship with the disappearance," Janssen said. "There is a reasonable suspicion they may be involved."


Authorities impounded three vehicles found at the two homes, and a team of more than a dozen FBI agents helping with the investigation will help perform forensic testing on them, police said.

"We hope she's alive," police commissioner Jan van der Straaten said. "Everyday I see the light at the end of the tunnel." Van der Straaten called on the public to be patient because the investigation will "take time."

Neighbors described the two detained men as security guards who worked at a hotel closed for renovation near where the teen was staying at the Holiday Inn. Deputy police chief Gerold Dompig confirmed that the suspects were security guards.

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They always say in front of cameras and reporters that there has never
been anything to prove Natalee is dead.

Yet each time they arrest somebody dating all the way back to the security guard's arrests on JUNE 5TH, 2005... They are always going
for charges of M-U-R-D-E-R.

Again, saying one thing, and then proceeding to do another.

It is the Aruban way.

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FOXNEWS

Friday July 1, 2005


ORANJESTAD, Aruba —  Aruba's chief government spokesman said Friday that three young men detained in the disappearance of an Alabama teenager have not been formally charged but could be as soon as Monday.

Earlier, Aruba's attorney general, Karin Janssen (search), told The Associated Press that the young men had been charged with murder since their arrest three weeks ago.

"The three have been charged with the *********murder of Natalee Holloway ************ (search) from the beginning" of their arrest 10 days after the young woman went missing May 30, she said in a recorded interview. "At the time, we didn't want to upset the family talking about murder while they searched."

The attorney general and other Aruban officials have said for weeks that no one has been charged in the 18-year-old's disappearance. Janssen said authorities also withheld information about the charges in order not to compromise their investigation. ***** Authorities have said they have no physical evidence suggesting Holloway is dead.**********


"This is a question of semantics. It's been a problem since day one," Trapenberg said. "The charging is a formal process that happens later on. It could happen as soon as Monday."

Return calls to Janssen were not immediately returned.

Trapenberg did not clarify what charges could be filed against the three. They had been scheduled to go before a judge Monday to learn whether their detentions would be extended another 60 days. Under Dutch law that governs Aruba (search), a protectorate of the Netherlands, detainees can be held 116 days before being charged by a judge.


Janssen said 17-year-old Joran van der Sloot (search) and two Surinamese brothers who are his friends have been charged since their arrest June 9 — 10 days after Holloway disappeared.

All court hearings in the case have been closed to the public.

Police have been criticized for letting more than a week go by without detaining the three young men last seen with Holloway and for waiting 16 days after she went missing before searching van der Sloot's home.


"The stupidest thing to do is run and arrest them because an hour later they will go free and you have nothing," Janssen told the AP.





When asked if the young men would have had time to destroy evidence, Janssen acknowledged the possibility but said "it didn't happen in this case."

She said the prosecution was centering its case around e-mail and cell phone text messages written between the suspects the night Holloway disappeared. Janssen declined to offer further details about the messages, but said not having a body would make getting a murder conviction "more difficult but not impossible."

Asked why two of three suspects were transported together, apparently giving them the opportunity to compare or arrange their stories, Trapenberg said in a separate interview that was done to secretly monitor what they might tell each other.


"One of the techniques is that after hearing separate stories and getting nowhere, prosecutors will have suspects confront each other," said Trapenberg. "The U.S. system might be different, but this technique has worked in the past here."

Janssen offered a similar explanation.

Deepak Kalpoe, 21, and Satish Kalpoe, 18, and van der Sloot were the last ones seen with Holloway the night she disappeared. Two other people — van der Sloot's father, Paul, a high-ranking island judicial official — were detained and released.



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Author: Papito (---.XXXXXXXXXXXX)

Date:   11-07-05 08:52


ARCHIVED POSTS FROM: ARUBA (dot) COM  -- MESSAGE BOARD

Author: Proud American (---.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX)
Date: 11-06-05 01:21

Aruba has always covered up there crimes and this case will not go away and it will not

be covered up. I bet they are really shocked and dont know what to do. Tell the Truth

Aruba and the Dutch. You are only fooling yoursefs This case has uncoved how corupt Aruba

and Holland really are . It has opened the Americans eyes and will not go away. Ever.Even

when Natalee is found we will never forget what you have done to her and her family.

Shame on You .You are cowards to do this to anyone . Bonny Proud American

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Below you can see JUST WHAT KIND
of uneducated, mental misfit, American hating
roach droppings that we are dealing with.


The Natalee Holloway Case has been an uphill battle since day ONE!

Actually Natalee was not *DAY ONE* --- This stuff has been happening
for quite sometime. Thanks to Natalee Holloway and her GREAT FAMILY
MEMBERS --- Her case is how we finally figured out just how Aruba
keeps their wonderful crime rate so low.

Without reporting crimes,

the rates look swell!

Come dance in ARUBA!!!!

Buried under the Sand Dunes.




*****
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>> Papito's REPLY:

You have no idea what you are talking about. I can spit out the same garbage about how

"corrupt" America is and how Bush **drove the planes into the towers*** to increase oil

prices

 and personal gain....





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break
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*Papito


Monday, March 19, 2007
Who Needs Evidence?

"I also spoke with Art Wood. Papito and Dennis came out to the sand dunes on their day

off while Fred Golba was doing a search there with his dogs. It was Papito, who discarded

a small piece of plasic the dog had made a hit on. According to Art, Papito said it was

nothing and threw it in the wind." -ZZB


http://tinyurl.com/2ug35w


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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2007, 06:28:04 PM »

Be back in a while Wink
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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2007, 06:28:19 PM »

Thanks Klass!  Cool
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For Natalee and Stephany, whatever it takes.

-JUSTICE FOR NATALEE ANN - BOYCOTT ARUBA
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"The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first."Thomas Jeff
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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2007, 06:40:38 PM »

Heya, monks! Any word yet today on the Netherlands court re: someone not wanting their name in Joranfrankastein's book?
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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2007, 06:53:22 PM »

Quote from: "justinsmama"
Heya, monks! Any word yet today on the Netherlands court re: someone not wanting their name in Joranfrankastein's book?


Hi Justins,  GEL posted on previous thread there was a post at FOB that hearing lasted 3 hours but no verdict yet.
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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2007, 06:55:34 PM »

Quote from: "justinsmama"
Heya, monks! Any word yet today on the Netherlands court re: someone not wanting their name in Joranfrankastein's book?


Check the Easter Avatar thread, Justin's!  Wink
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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2007, 06:59:17 PM »

Well, I'll just leave it here for you:



http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/jusest.gif

Guys, if you need an Easter Outfit, just post in the Lounge, and Klaas or I will fix you up!  Wink
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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2007, 07:01:12 PM »

Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Well, I'll just leave it here for you:



http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/jusest.gif

Guys, if you need an Easter Outfit, just post in the Lounge, and Klaas or I will fix you up!  Wink


It's adorable! Thank you, CBB!

And thanx, Tibro, for letting me know.

Joke:

Jacob, age 92, and Rebecca, age 89, living in Florida, are all  
excited about their decision to get married. They go for a  
stroll to discuss the wedding. On the way they pass a  
drugstore. Jacob suggests they go in.  

Jacob addresses the man behind the counter: "Are you the  
owner?"  

The pharmacist answers, "Yes, Sir."  

Jacob: "We're about to get married. Do you sell heart  
medication?"  

Pharmacist: "Of course we do."  

Jacob: "How about medicine for circulation?"  

Pharmacist: "All kinds."  

Jacob: "Medicine for rheumatism and scoliosis?"  

Pharmacist: "Definitely."  

Jacob: "How about Viagra?"  

Pharmacist: "Of course."  

Jacob: "Medicine for memory problems, arthritis, jaundice?"  

Pharmacist: "Yes, a large variety."  

Jacob: "What about vitamins, sleeping pills, Geritol,  
antidotes for Parkinson's disease?"  

Pharmacist: "Absolutely."  

Jacob: "You sell wheelchairs and walkers?"  

Pharmacist: "All speeds and sizes."  

Jacob: "We'd like to use this store as our Bridal Registry."
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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2007, 07:02:33 PM »

OMG! That's too cute, Justins!
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« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2007, 07:08:08 PM »

Good one, Justins    Laughing  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing
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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2007, 07:31:30 PM »

PearlinUSA recap of chat session with Dave H. on BFN

Oral arguments set for 3/27 in CA case.
Thinks was Paulus at the casino table.
Have not been allowed to review tape, option disappeared.
Has not heard from nor spoken with Nico Jorg.
Never saw any jewelry store video.
Thinks D.J. and E.C. involved somehow in covering, etc...
DK tried to store his car at Automotive Ent. right away.
Family nor FBI has heard anything from Dutch investigators.
TES wants to return in April.
Hasn't spoken with JQK for week, no info on his returning.
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« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2007, 07:34:06 PM »

Quote from: "igsigs"
PearlinUSA recap of chat session with Dave H. on BFN

Oral arguments set for 3/27 in CA case.
Thinks was Paulus at the casino table.
Have not been allowed to review tape, option disappeared.
Has not heard from nor spoken with Nico Jorg.
Never saw any jewelry store video.
Thinks D.J. and E.C. involved somehow in covering, etc...
DK tried to store his car at Automotive Ent. right away.
Family nor FBI has heard anything from Dutch investigators.
TES wants to return in April.
Hasn't spoken with JQK for week, no info on his returning.


Wonder why Dave Holloway keeps saying April when Tim Miller says May?  

So Dave H thinks that Dennis Jacobs and Edwin Comenencia are involved in the coverup.  Yep...them and probably more.

Deepak tried to store his car at Automotive Enterprises right away huh?
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« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2007, 07:34:15 PM »

eta:

D.J. = tubby

E.C. = Papito Comemencia
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« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2007, 07:34:51 PM »

Quote from: "igsigs"
PearlinUSA recap of chat session with Dave H. on BFN

Oral arguments set for 3/27 in CA case.
Thinks was Paulus at the casino table.
Have not been allowed to review tape, option disappeared.
Has not heard from nor spoken with Nico Jorg.
Never saw any jewelry store video.
Thinks D.J. and E.C. involved somehow in covering, etc...
DK tried to store his car at Automotive Ent. right away.
Family nor FBI has heard anything from Dutch investigators.
TES wants to return in April.
Hasn't spoken with JQK for week, no info on his returning.


DJ = Dennis Jacobs

EC = ?
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« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2007, 07:37:24 PM »

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D.J. = tubby

E.C. = Papito Comemencia


Got it!

Wow! So old DK knew somethin' was very wrong that early. Which makes him even guiltier. I believe it was Paulus sweating at the casino, too. And salivating over Nat. The pig.
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« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2007, 07:38:33 PM »

Would be interesting to know if Deepak took his car to AE on Monday...or Tuesday night.

Surely the surveillence team had them watched after that. Or maybe not...
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« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2007, 07:43:37 PM »

Astounding that the Osman Osman PV does not ask WHY Deepak dropped his car off.
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« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2007, 07:45:33 PM »

Quote from: "igsigs"
Astounding that the Osman Osman PV does not ask WHY Deepak dropped his car off.


Par  Wink
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