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« Reply #300 on: May 03, 2011, 08:12:45 PM »

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« Reply #301 on: May 03, 2011, 08:32:20 PM »

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« Reply #302 on: May 03, 2011, 08:48:32 PM »


   

So glad you're safe and back here with us Magnolia!   
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #303 on: May 03, 2011, 09:01:41 PM »

http://www.diario.aw/2011/05/aruba-a-tuma-precaucion/

Papiamentu translation:

aruba did take precaucion

publication: tuesday, 3 may 2011.

categoria: general

relaciona cu dead of come laden 

oranjestad (aan): at aruba rapidamente precaucionnan owing to worde take of instant cu chairman of merca, barack obama, owing to haci conoci cu merca owing to realiza one accion exitoso contra of osama come laden. first minister mike eman, after of the anuncio of chairman obama owing to coordina cu ministerio publico, cuerpo policial y departamento of seguridad nacional one serie of precaucionnan for intensifica seguridad at aruba y trafico of entrance y exit of we country. the intensificacion of the precaucionnan here will stay vigente for her next dianan.


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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #304 on: May 03, 2011, 09:04:09 PM »

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=7166&offId=0&offDate=2011-5

INCREIBEL UN BAÑO DI SCHOOL DEN ORANJESTAD, HALLO ......... ESAKI TA ENSEÑANZA 2011 NA ARUBA? ESAKI NO POR!!!!!!

Unda Departamento di Hygiena a keda? Unda Fundacion pa DErecho di Mucha a keda? Comision di Mayornan di e school ta na altura di e situacion di baño na e respectivo schoolnan? Mayornan boso a controla e bañonan di e school unda boso yiunan ta bay? Kiko boso ta warda? Anto nos ta stima nos yiunan hopi of NO!


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increibel one baÑo of school in oranjestad, hello come across......... this is enseÑanza 2011 at aruba? this not can!!!!!!

where departamento of hygiena owing to stay? where fundacion for derecho of child owing to stay? comision of parents of the school is at height of the situation of bathroom at the respectivo schoolnan? parents you owing to controla the bañonan of the school where you yiunan is bay? what you is keep? then we loves we yiunan much or not!


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« Reply #305 on: May 03, 2011, 09:12:16 PM »

Klaas, if you think we should snip it...please do so.  TIA 

Attempted rape of another young American girl!   

http://www.diario.aw/2011/05/mucha-muher-mericano-di-19-ana-cu-denuncia-pa-intento-di-violacion/

Papiamentu translation:

child muher mericano of 19 year cu denuncia for attempt of violacion

publication: tuesday, 3 may 2011.

categoria: general

one such “michelangelo” will worde busca for give cuenta:

oranjestad (aan): saturday marduga polisnan owing to bay atende one caso earnest cu owing to worde reporta. according the informe cu owing to arrive at oido of central of police y owing to stay registra for 4’ or y 30 minuut cu is solicita presencia of police at one high rise hotel is menciona at first instancia probably owing to hinca one person. but at arrival this not was the caso. patrol north cu owing to acudi at the hotel owing to come across cu one child muher mericano of inicialnan j.r. of 19 year of edad.

the child muher mericano owing to count ; police cu past owing to visit one night club at oranjestad y the was together cu one girlfriend y owing to come across cu one boy one such “michelangelo”.

they owing to bay visit various casino hour they was at holiday inn the denunciante j.r owing to dicidi of march bay marriott hotel y past owing to let his girlfriend y the boy michelangelo at the holiday inn. during the was canando direccion for marriott hotel at dado instant the is become his cara y the looking at the boy is march his slow. the boy owing to bise cu the can arrive his hotel more rapido if the take one short cut.

hour cu they did take one caminda more cortico y boy owing to gare for deal of rape, past owing to tapa his mouth for her not bark, but past owing to haye is struggle fight serious for defende his self for so the can owing to succeed core bay. hour past owing to arrive at the hotel provided that cuestion past owing to reporta the sucedido.


the caso earnest reporta y denuncia have pleno atencion of autoridad competente. investigadornan did take all dato, descripcion relaciona cu denuncia earnest here. do not exclui cu casino (nan) cu they owing to visit will can help also cu fotonan capta during they're in one of the casinonan of the boy cual will can facilita the investigadornan relaciona cu the investigacion.

locual is the boy “michelangelo” autoridad will buske for her give cuenta of the denuncia earnest of the sucedido.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #306 on: May 03, 2011, 09:14:22 PM »

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=7166&offId=0&offDate=2011-5

INCREIBEL UN BAÑO DI SCHOOL DEN ORANJESTAD, HALLO ......... ESAKI TA ENSEÑANZA 2011 NA ARUBA? ESAKI NO POR!!!!!!

Unda Departamento di Hygiena a keda? Unda Fundacion pa DErecho di Mucha a keda? Comision di Mayornan di e school ta na altura di e situacion di baño na e respectivo schoolnan? Mayornan boso a controla e bañonan di e school unda boso yiunan ta bay? Kiko boso ta warda? Anto nos ta stima nos yiunan hopi of NO!


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increibel one baÑo of school in oranjestad, hello come across......... this is enseÑanza 2011 at aruba? this not can!!!!!!

where departamento of hygiena owing to stay? where fundacion for derecho of child owing to stay? comision of parents of the school is at height of the situation of bathroom at the respectivo schoolnan? parents you owing to controla the bañonan of the school where you yiunan is bay? what you is keep? then we loves we yiunan much or not!


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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #307 on: May 03, 2011, 09:28:12 PM »

TM - is that saying a 19yr old female tourist was accosted/attacked by a local by the name of michelangelo?
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« Reply #308 on: May 03, 2011, 09:37:33 PM »

TM - is that saying a 19yr old female tourist was accosted/attacked by a local by the name of michelangelo?

That's my understanding.

I think I have a good idea what happened but some of it I'm not sure of.

Maybe Sandy Leiva will be by later and help with it.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #309 on: May 03, 2011, 09:46:01 PM »

There are a bunch of Michelangelo's in Aruba.  Do we know the last name or initial of this one?  Age?
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« Reply #310 on: May 03, 2011, 09:53:03 PM »

Klaas, if you think we should snip it...please do so.  TIA 

Attempted rape of another young American girl!   

http://www.diario.aw/2011/05/mucha-muher-mericano-di-19-ana-cu-denuncia-pa-intento-di-violacion/

Papiamentu translation:

child muher mericano of 19 year cu denuncia for attempt of violacion

publication: tuesday, 3 may 2011.

categoria: general

one such “michelangelo” will worde busca for give cuenta:

oranjestad (aan): saturday marduga polisnan owing to bay atende one caso earnest cu owing to worde reporta. according the informe cu owing to arrive at oido of central of police y owing to stay registra for 4’ or y 30 minuut cu is solicita presencia of police at one high rise hotel is menciona at first instancia probably owing to hinca one person. but at arrival this not was the caso. patrol north cu owing to acudi at the hotel owing to come across cu one child muher mericano of inicialnan j.r. of 19 year of edad.

the child muher mericano owing to count ; police cu past owing to visit one night club at oranjestad y the was together cu one girlfriend y owing to come across cu one boy one such “michelangelo”.

they owing to bay visit various casino hour they was at holiday inn the denunciante j.r owing to dicidi of march bay marriott hotel y past owing to let his girlfriend y the boy michelangelo at the holiday inn. during the was canando direccion for marriott hotel at dado instant the is become his cara y the looking at the boy is march his slow. the boy owing to bise cu the can arrive his hotel more rapido if the take one short cut.

hour cu they did take one caminda more cortico y boy owing to gare for deal of rape, past owing to tapa his mouth for her not bark, but past owing to haye is struggle fight serious for defende his self for so the can owing to succeed core bay. hour past owing to arrive at the hotel provided that cuestion past owing to reporta the sucedido.


the caso earnest reporta y denuncia have pleno atencion of autoridad competente. investigadornan did take all dato, descripcion relaciona cu denuncia earnest here. do not exclui cu casino (nan) cu they owing to visit will can help also cu fotonan capta during they're in one of the casinonan of the boy cual will can facilita the investigadornan relaciona cu the investigacion.

locual is the boy “michelangelo” autoridad will buske for her give cuenta of the denuncia earnest of the sucedido.

This is my understanding...

19 year old girl goes out to one of the night clubs with a girlfriend.  They meet this guy Michelangelo.  They all go to a couple of the casinos including the one at the Holiday Inn where the 19 year old decides to call it a night and walk back to her hotel (the Marriott).

This is the part that I'm not real sure about...

(whether it was the Michelangelo that followed her out, or if there was another guy out there waiting for her...maybe tipped off by Michelangelo...jmo) 

She leaves her girlfriend and "Michelangelo" in the casino but as she's walking she notices that he has followed her out and is walking slow?  He suggests a short cut back to her hotel,  that's where he tries to rape her?  I think it also says he taped her mouth shut to keep her from screaming, but that she fought for her life and got away from him.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #311 on: May 03, 2011, 09:56:31 PM »

There are a bunch of Michelangelo's in Aruba.  Do we know the last name or initial of this one?  Age?

I don't think either was given in the article.  I'll look around some more in the other online news sources but if they posted anything about this over the weekend I missed it.

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #312 on: May 03, 2011, 10:16:06 PM »

There are a bunch of Michelangelo's in Aruba.  Do we know the last name or initial of this one?  Age?

I don't think either was given in the article.  I'll look around some more in the other online news sources but if they posted anything about this over the weekend I missed it.



http://www.awemainta.com/noticia/

I don't think there was any additional information here, but I'm typing it out and translating it to be sure.

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #313 on: May 03, 2011, 10:27:30 PM »

It is clear in this article that "Michelangelo" was the attacker.

http://www.awemainta.com/noticia/

5/3/2011 Page 3

Papiamentu translation:

man cu owing to close amistad cu tourist wanted owing to rape the child muher

asistencia of police owing to wordo ask saturday 4:30 of madruga, at one of the highrise hotelnan, where will have one hincamento. hour cu police owing to arrive owing to resulta cu esey not t’e caso.

patrol owing to talk cu the child muher, j. r. naci at using of 19 ana, that is tell police cu past owing to bay cu his amigo at one nightclub at beach y eynan they owing to come across cu one such michelangelo.

they owing to close one amistad y after owing to happen at various casino. hour cu they was at holiday inn, the child muher owing to let his amigo n’e casino together cu the such michelangelo y past owing to march bay hotel at leg.

hour cu the was canando, past owing to see cu michelangelo was follow his slow. michelangelo owing to bise for they take one shortcut, michelangelo owing to coge choca y wanted owing to rap’e. past owing to fight cu michelangelo y owing to core bay his hotel, buscando aid. the caso is in hand of jzp. come across
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #314 on: May 03, 2011, 10:30:18 PM »

JZP = Jeugd en Zeden Politie

Dutch Google translation:

Youth and Vice Squad
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #315 on: May 03, 2011, 10:34:58 PM »

Thanks TM - no last name for Michelangelo?
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« Reply #316 on: May 03, 2011, 10:43:48 PM »

Thanks TM - no last name for Michelangelo?

No, but both initials of the VICTIM!   
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #317 on: May 03, 2011, 11:12:05 PM »



Good to see you Magnolia.  Is that Hudson 

Good to see you too Anna.
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« Reply #318 on: May 04, 2011, 12:22:47 AM »

Klaas, if you think we should snip it...please do so.  TIA 

Attempted rape of another young American girl!   

http://www.diario.aw/2011/05/mucha-muher-mericano-di-19-ana-cu-denuncia-pa-intento-di-violacion/

Papiamentu translation:

child muher mericano of 19 year cu denuncia for attempt of violacion

publication: tuesday, 3 may 2011.

categoria: general

one such “michelangelo” will worde busca for give cuenta:

oranjestad (aan): saturday marduga polisnan owing to bay atende one caso earnest cu owing to worde reporta. according the informe cu owing to arrive at oido of central of police y owing to stay registra for 4’ or y 30 minuut cu is solicita presencia of police at one high rise hotel is menciona at first instancia probably owing to hinca one person. but at arrival this not was the caso. patrol north cu owing to acudi at the hotel owing to come across cu one child muher mericano of inicialnan j.r. of 19 year of edad.

the child muher mericano owing to count ; police cu past owing to visit one night club at oranjestad y the was together cu one girlfriend y owing to come across cu one boy one such “michelangelo”.

they owing to bay visit various casino hour they was at holiday inn the denunciante j.r owing to dicidi of march bay marriott hotel y past owing to let his girlfriend y the boy michelangelo at the holiday inn. during the was canando direccion for marriott hotel at dado instant the is become his cara y the looking at the boy is march his slow. the boy owing to bise cu the can arrive his hotel more rapido if the take one short cut.

hour cu they did take one caminda more cortico y boy owing to gare for deal of rape, past owing to tapa his mouth for her not bark, but past owing to haye is struggle fight serious for defende his self for so the can owing to succeed core bay. hour past owing to arrive at the hotel provided that cuestion past owing to reporta the sucedido.


the caso earnest reporta y denuncia have pleno atencion of autoridad competente. investigadornan did take all dato, descripcion relaciona cu denuncia earnest here. do not exclui cu casino (nan) cu they owing to visit will can help also cu fotonan capta during they're in one of the casinonan of the boy cual will can facilita the investigadornan relaciona cu the investigacion.

locual is the boy “michelangelo” autoridad will buske for her give cuenta of the denuncia earnest of the sucedido.

In blue ^^^

Are they saying that the video from one of the casino cameras will help in the investigation because it might have him on the video?
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« Reply #319 on: May 04, 2011, 12:32:31 AM »

Klaas, if you think we should snip it...please do so.  TIA 

Attempted rape of another young American girl!   

http://www.diario.aw/2011/05/mucha-muher-mericano-di-19-ana-cu-denuncia-pa-intento-di-violacion/

Papiamentu translation:

child muher mericano of 19 year cu denuncia for attempt of violacion

publication: tuesday, 3 may 2011.

categoria: general

one such “michelangelo” will worde busca for give cuenta:

oranjestad (aan): saturday marduga polisnan owing to bay atende one caso earnest cu owing to worde reporta. according the informe cu owing to arrive at oido of central of police y owing to stay registra for 4’ or y 30 minuut cu is solicita presencia of police at one high rise hotel is menciona at first instancia probably owing to hinca one person. but at arrival this not was the caso. patrol north cu owing to acudi at the hotel owing to come across cu one child muher mericano of inicialnan j.r. of 19 year of edad.

the child muher mericano owing to count ; police cu past owing to visit one night club at oranjestad y the was together cu one girlfriend y owing to come across cu one boy one such “michelangelo”.

they owing to bay visit various casino hour they was at holiday inn the denunciante j.r owing to dicidi of march bay marriott hotel y past owing to let his girlfriend y the boy michelangelo at the holiday inn. during the was canando direccion for marriott hotel at dado instant the is become his cara y the looking at the boy is march his slow. the boy owing to bise cu the can arrive his hotel more rapido if the take one short cut.

hour cu they did take one caminda more cortico y boy owing to gare for deal of rape, past owing to tapa his mouth for her not bark, but past owing to haye is struggle fight serious for defende his self for so the can owing to succeed core bay. hour past owing to arrive at the hotel provided that cuestion past owing to reporta the sucedido.


the caso earnest reporta y denuncia have pleno atencion of autoridad competente. investigadornan did take all dato, descripcion relaciona cu denuncia earnest here. do not exclui cu casino (nan) cu they owing to visit will can help also cu fotonan capta during they're in one of the casinonan of the boy cual will can facilita the investigadornan relaciona cu the investigacion.

locual is the boy “michelangelo” autoridad will buske for her give cuenta of the denuncia earnest of the sucedido.

In blue ^^^

Are they saying that the video from one of the casino cameras will help in the investigation because it might have him on the video?

Yes, and I would think that if they went into more than one casino that they ALL should have video of them entering and leaving at the very least.

But we are talking about Aruba...so I guess we'll see.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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