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« Reply #360 on: May 06, 2011, 06:22:13 PM »

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/06/dr-phil-natalee-holloway-defamation_n_858689.html

Dr. Phil To Appear In Court For Defamation Lawsuit In Natalee Holloway Case


Posted: 05/ 6/11 04:23 PM ET


A Los Angeles Superior Court judge has finally set a court date in the defamation lawsuit against talk show host Dr. Phil McGraw over his coverage of the Natalee Holloway case.

The suit was filed nearly five years ago by two Surinamese brothers who claim the television psychologist aired a segment on his show that depicted them as "guilty of committing criminal acts against Holloway."

"The judge entered a ruling setting the case for trial for October 12," Dr. Phil's attorney, Charles Babcock, told HuffPost.

Babcock had filed a motion to have the high-profile case thrown out of court, but the judge recently dismissed the request.

"Her reasoning was that there was fact issues precluding throwing the case out right now," Babcock said. "Of course, it's not a decision on the merits, but she's going to let it go forward to trial."

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« Reply #361 on: May 06, 2011, 06:37:46 PM »

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/06/dr-phil-natalee-holloway-defamation_n_858689.html

Dr. Phil To Appear In Court For Defamation Lawsuit In Natalee Holloway Case


Posted: 05/ 6/11 04:23 PM ET


A Los Angeles Superior Court judge has finally set a court date in the defamation lawsuit against talk show host Dr. Phil McGraw over his coverage of the Natalee Holloway case.

The suit was filed nearly five years ago by two Surinamese brothers who claim the television psychologist aired a segment on his show that depicted them as "guilty of committing criminal acts against Holloway."

"The judge entered a ruling setting the case for trial for October 12," Dr. Phil's attorney, Charles Babcock, told HuffPost.

Babcock had filed a motion to have the high-profile case thrown out of court, but the judge recently dismissed the request.

"Her reasoning was that there was fact issues precluding throwing the case out right now," Babcock said. "Of course, it's not a decision on the merits, but she's going to let it go forward to trial."

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EXACTLY -- the judge's decision has nothing to do with the MERITS. Merely the Kalpoes have "right" to sue.
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« Reply #362 on: May 06, 2011, 06:40:33 PM »

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/06/dr-phil-natalee-holloway-defamation_n_858689.html

Dr. Phil To Appear In Court For Defamation Lawsuit In Natalee Holloway Case


Posted: 05/ 6/11 04:23 PM ET


A Los Angeles Superior Court judge has finally set a court date in the defamation lawsuit against talk show host Dr. Phil McGraw over his coverage of the Natalee Holloway case.

The suit was filed nearly five years ago by two Surinamese brothers who claim the television psychologist aired a segment on his show that depicted them as "guilty of committing criminal acts against Holloway."

"The judge entered a ruling setting the case for trial for October 12," Dr. Phil's attorney, Charles Babcock, told HuffPost.

Babcock had filed a motion to have the high-profile case thrown out of court, but the judge recently dismissed the request.

"Her reasoning was that there was fact issues precluding throwing the case out right now," Babcock said. "Of course, it's not a decision on the merits, but she's going to let it go forward to trial."

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Thanks Klaas.

Was the request of McGraw's attorneys to dismiss the case denied by the courts at the recent Summary Judgement hearing?

I hope I am wrong but ... considering that the courts have sided with the Kalpoes' attorneys on every motion that the McGraw's attorneys have put forward for the the past four years ... I have a hinky feeling that this lawsuit is never going to go to trial.

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« Reply #363 on: May 06, 2011, 06:47:17 PM »

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/06/dr-phil-natalee-holloway-defamation_n_858689.html

Dr. Phil To Appear In Court For Defamation Lawsuit In Natalee Holloway Case


Posted: 05/ 6/11 04:23 PM ET


A Los Angeles Superior Court judge has finally set a court date in the defamation lawsuit against talk show host Dr. Phil McGraw over his coverage of the Natalee Holloway case.

The suit was filed nearly five years ago by two Surinamese brothers who claim the television psychologist aired a segment on his show that depicted them as "guilty of committing criminal acts against Holloway."

"The judge entered a ruling setting the case for trial for October 12," Dr. Phil's attorney, Charles Babcock, told HuffPost.

Babcock had filed a motion to have the high-profile case thrown out of court, but the judge recently dismissed the request.

"Her reasoning was that there was fact issues precluding throwing the case out right now," Babcock said. "Of course, it's not a decision on the merits, but she's going to let it go forward to trial."

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Thanks Klaas.

Was the request of McGraw's attorneys to dismiss the case denied by the courts at the recent Summary Judgement hearing?

I hope I am wrong but ... considering that the courts have sided with the Kalpoes' attorneys on every motion that the McGraw's attorneys have put forward for the the past four years ... I have a hinky feeling that this lawsuit is never going to go to trial.

Janet

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The lawsuit is going to trial, there will be NO out of court settlements. 
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« Reply #364 on: May 06, 2011, 06:49:21 PM »

http://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/television/article_c2590340-fe8a-53fb-885c-41062a00c89d.html

TV talk shows for May 9

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7 a.m. The Early Show

7 a.m. Today • Beth Holloway; Kristen Wiig and Maya Rudolph; Chelsea Handler; conditions that are misdiagnosed.
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« Reply #365 on: May 06, 2011, 06:52:47 PM »

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2011/05/tv-this-week8.html

TV This Week for May 8th – 14th

May 6, 2011 | 12:42 pm
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MONDAY

The docudrama “Justice for Natalee Holloway” tracks the efforts of the missing teen's mom, Beth, to bring the case of her daughter's disappearance to a conclusion, followed by the new series “Vanished With Beth Holloway.” (Lifetime, 8 and 10 p.m.)
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"We won't give up on you, Natalee.  You didn't give up on us, and we will continue with the investigation until we have all of the answers to your disappearance.  God be with you my Natalee!" Dave Holloway ARUBA
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« Reply #366 on: May 06, 2011, 07:17:26 PM »

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/06/dr-phil-natalee-holloway-defamation_n_858689.html

Dr. Phil To Appear In Court For Defamation Lawsuit In Natalee Holloway Case


Posted: 05/ 6/11 04:23 PM ET


A Los Angeles Superior Court judge has finally set a court date in the defamation lawsuit against talk show host Dr. Phil McGraw over his coverage of the Natalee Holloway case.

The suit was filed nearly five years ago by two Surinamese brothers who claim the television psychologist aired a segment on his show that depicted them as "guilty of committing criminal acts against Holloway."

"The judge entered a ruling setting the case for trial for October 12," Dr. Phil's attorney, Charles Babcock, told HuffPost.

Babcock had filed a motion to have the high-profile case thrown out of court, but the judge recently dismissed the request.

"Her reasoning was that there was fact issues precluding throwing the case out right now," Babcock said. "Of course, it's not a decision on the merits, but she's going to let it go forward to trial."

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Thanks Klaas.

Was the request of McGraw's attorneys to dismiss the case denied by the courts at the recent Summary Judgement hearing?

I hope I am wrong but ... considering that the courts have sided with the Kalpoes' attorneys on every motion that the McGraw's attorneys have put forward for the the past four years ... I have a hinky feeling that this lawsuit is never going to go to trial.

Janet

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The lawsuit is going to trial, there will be NO out of court settlements. 

Link please.

 



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« Reply #367 on: May 06, 2011, 07:36:55 PM »

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Considering I do not think that Aruba will allow Deepak and Satish to be questioned under oath regarding aspects of the Natalee Holloway case ... aspects which would be incriminating to the Kalpoes ... aspects would expose the corrupt investigation which prevented justice from prevailing ... could it be that the financial backers of this lawsuit will drop the lawsuit IF McGraw's attorneys do not attempt to negotiate.

Either way ... I could be wrong but ... I do not think this defamation lawsuit will end up in the courts.

Bottom Line:  The outcome will be what the outcome will be.  I wish we had a crystal ball.

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« Reply #368 on: May 06, 2011, 07:40:54 PM »

With the case going forward imagine the questions that will be able to be asked by Dr Phil's attys of the Kalpoe's.

In order to prove demaimation they would have had to have their reputations defamed. I wonder just how much lattitude there will be in questioning as to their involvement, changing stories, lying to Aruban LE. Dr Phil's attys will tryi and prove that the Kalpoe's brought all this on themsleves and contributed to their own appearance that the public perceived.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation

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A person who destroys another's reputation may be referred to as a famacide, defamer, or slanderer. The Latin phrase famosus libellus means a libelous writing.

It is going to be hard to prove malicious intent, let alone a reputation being damaged when the Kalpoe's had an already ruined reputation at this point.
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« Reply #369 on: May 06, 2011, 07:46:53 PM »

THE INVOLVMENT OF THE KALPOES

Natalee's Mother: Deeply Involved

NANCY GRACE
Kalpoe Brothers Rearrested
Aired August 26, 2005 - 20:00:00   ET


B. TWITTY: We`ve known from day one Deepak and Satish Kalpoe are way deeply involved in this.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0508/26/ng.01.html


Judge: Serious Grounds for Suspicion

November 30, 2007 -- Updated 0017 GMT (0817 HKT)
Brothers to be freed in Natalee Holloway case


ORANJESTAD, Aruba (CNN) -- Two of the suspects being held in connection with Natalee Holloway's presumed death will be released from custody by Saturday.

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The Kalpoe brothers were previously jailed in the case, but were rearrested last week and charged with being involved in the "voluntary manslaughter" of Holloway.

The judge reasoned Friday that "the new evidence, together with the existing evidence in this case, produce serious grounds for the suspicion of some kind of aiding and abetting, of covering up the traces of a crime committed or of the disposing of a corpse," prosecutors said.

But people accused of those crimes do not qualify for pretrial detention under Aruban law, Mos told reporters.

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http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/11/30/aruba.holloway/index.html


THE INVOLVEMENT OF THE KALPOES

Proscutor: Murder - Kidnapping - Gang Rape

Brothers arrested again in Aruba case
Two held on suspicion of acting with others in teen's rape, killing
Saturday, August 27, 2005 Posted: 0319 GMT (1119 HKT)


(CNN) -- After being detained and then released last month in Natalee Holloway's disappearance, two brothers were arrested again Friday in Aruba on suspicion they acted "together with other people" in raping and killing the Alabama teen, the prosecutor's office said.

Without elaborating on the evidence, the office said in a statement that "new facts and circumstances" led them to re-arrest Satish Kalpoe, 18 and brother Deepak, 21.

"They are suspected of the primary criminal act of together with other people committing premeditated murder, alternately together with other people murdering somebody, more alternately rob a person of her liberty with fatal consequences and even more alternately raping somebody," the statement said.

"Aside from these suspicions against the two brothers, there are new suspicions, which at this point the prosecutor is not commenting on."

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http://edition.cnn.com/2005/LAW/08/26/aruba.arrests/index.html



THE INVOLVEMENT OF THE KALPOES

Steve Cohen - Consensual?

CARIBBEAN VOICE - January 18, 2006

If current findings are true, Cohen said they are going to accelerate their efforts. Extensive search for forensic evidence continues. Yesterday, 50 members of the Aruban police department searched extensively through the dune by the lighthouse in search for clues. "Anything DNA that is identified to be of Natalee's will allow us to bring a strong case forward against the three boys. We are also getting to finally talk to some of the Alabama teens who left on that plane and did not wait around for interrogation," said Cohen.

Aruba believes it is most important to get a hold of her mental state and most importantly, Natalee's physical state at the time of disappearance.  "Two of the boys said they had consensual sex with her. Whether consensual or not, depends on her ability to be conscious and make a choice," said Cohen .
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« Reply #370 on: May 06, 2011, 07:53:38 PM »

With the case going forward imagine the questions that will be able to be asked by Dr Phil's attys of the Kalpoe's.

In order to prove demaimation they would have had to have their reputations defamed. I wonder just how much lattitude there will be in questioning as to their involvement, changing stories, lying to Aruban LE. Dr Phil's attys will tryi and prove that the Kalpoe's brought all this on themsleves and contributed to their own appearance that the public perceived.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation

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A person who destroys another's reputation may be referred to as a famacide, defamer, or slanderer. The Latin phrase famosus libellus means a libelous writing.

It is going to be hard to prove malicious intent, let alone a reputation being damaged when the Kalpoe's had an already ruined reputation at this point.

 

I agree.  This is why I had hoped that that the judge would have honored McGraw's attorney request to dismiss the lawsuit during the recent Summary Judgement hearing.  Instead the ruling is that the an October trial is where it is at.

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« Reply #371 on: May 06, 2011, 08:08:38 PM »

Klaas, if you think we should snip it...please do so.  TIA 

Attempted rape of another young American girl!   

http://www.diario.aw/2011/05/mucha-muher-mericano-di-19-ana-cu-denuncia-pa-intento-di-violacion/

Papiamentu translation:

child muher mericano of 19 year cu denuncia for attempt of violacion

publication: tuesday, 3 may 2011.

categoria: general

one such “michelangelo” will worde busca for give cuenta:

oranjestad (aan): saturday marduga polisnan owing to bay atende one caso earnest cu owing to worde reporta. according the informe cu owing to arrive at oido of central of police y owing to stay registra for 4’ or y 30 minuut cu is solicita presencia of police at one high rise hotel is menciona at first instancia probably owing to hinca one person. but at arrival this not was the caso. patrol north cu owing to acudi at the hotel owing to come across cu one child muher mericano of inicialnan j.r. of 19 year of edad.

the child muher mericano owing to count ; police cu past owing to visit one night club at oranjestad y the was together cu one girlfriend y owing to come across cu one boy one such “michelangelo”.

they owing to bay visit various casino hour they was at holiday inn the denunciante j.r owing to dicidi of march bay marriott hotel y past owing to let his girlfriend y the boy michelangelo at the holiday inn. during the was canando direccion for marriott hotel at dado instant the is become his cara y the looking at the boy is march his slow. the boy owing to bise cu the can arrive his hotel more rapido if the take one short cut.

hour cu they did take one caminda more cortico y boy owing to gare for deal of rape, past owing to tapa his mouth for her not bark, but past owing to haye is struggle fight serious for defende his self for so the can owing to succeed core bay. hour past owing to arrive at the hotel provided that cuestion past owing to reporta the sucedido.


the caso earnest reporta y denuncia have pleno atencion of autoridad competente. investigadornan did take all dato, descripcion relaciona cu denuncia earnest here. do not exclui cu casino (nan) cu they owing to visit will can help also cu fotonan capta during they're in one of the casinonan of the boy cual will can facilita the investigadornan relaciona cu the investigacion.

locual is the boy “michelangelo” autoridad will buske for her give cuenta of the denuncia earnest of the sucedido.

This is my understanding...

19 year old girl goes out to one of the night clubs with a girlfriend.  They meet this guy Michelangelo.  They all go to a couple of the casinos including the one at the Holiday Inn where the 19 year old decides to call it a night and walk back to her hotel (the Marriott).

This is the part that I'm not real sure about...

(whether it was the Michelangelo that followed her out, or if there was another guy out there waiting for her...maybe tipped off by Michelangelo...jmo) 

She leaves her girlfriend and "Michelangelo" in the casino but as she's walking she notices that he has followed her out and is walking slow?  He suggests a short cut back to her hotel,  that's where he tries to rape her?  I think it also says he taped her mouth shut to keep her from screaming, but that she fought for her life and got away from him.She ran to her hotel and reported the occurancen to the police who r looking for a man with initials of JZP
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« Reply #372 on: May 06, 2011, 08:13:48 PM »

With the case going forward imagine the questions that will be able to be asked by Dr Phil's attys of the Kalpoe's.

In order to prove demaimation they would have had to have their reputations defamed. I wonder just how much lattitude there will be in questioning as to their involvement, changing stories, lying to Aruban LE. Dr Phil's attys will tryi and prove that the Kalpoe's brought all this on themsleves and contributed to their own appearance that the public perceived.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation

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A person who destroys another's reputation may be referred to as a famacide, defamer, or slanderer. The Latin phrase famosus libellus means a libelous writing.

It is going to be hard to prove malicious intent, let alone a reputation being damaged when the Kalpoe's had an already ruined reputation at this point.

Perhaps any prior criminal history will be brought to light as well... that could be interesting imo.
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« Reply #373 on: May 06, 2011, 08:20:13 PM »

Klaas, if you think we should snip it...please do so.  TIA 

Attempted rape of another young American girl!   

http://www.diario.aw/2011/05/mucha-muher-mericano-di-19-ana-cu-denuncia-pa-intento-di-violacion/

Papiamentu translation:

child muher mericano of 19 year cu denuncia for attempt of violacion

publication: tuesday, 3 may 2011.

categoria: general

one such “michelangelo” will worde busca for give cuenta:

oranjestad (aan): saturday marduga polisnan owing to bay atende one caso earnest cu owing to worde reporta. according the informe cu owing to arrive at oido of central of police y owing to stay registra for 4’ or y 30 minuut cu is solicita presencia of police at one high rise hotel is menciona at first instancia probably owing to hinca one person. but at arrival this not was the caso. patrol north cu owing to acudi at the hotel owing to come across cu one child muher mericano of inicialnan j.r. of 19 year of edad.

the child muher mericano owing to count ; police cu past owing to visit one night club at oranjestad y the was together cu one girlfriend y owing to come across cu one boy one such “michelangelo”.

they owing to bay visit various casino hour they was at holiday inn the denunciante j.r owing to dicidi of march bay marriott hotel y past owing to let his girlfriend y the boy michelangelo at the holiday inn. during the was canando direccion for marriott hotel at dado instant the is become his cara y the looking at the boy is march his slow. the boy owing to bise cu the can arrive his hotel more rapido if the take one short cut.

hour cu they did take one caminda more cortico y boy owing to gare for deal of rape, past owing to tapa his mouth for her not bark, but past owing to haye is struggle fight serious for defende his self for so the can owing to succeed core bay. hour past owing to arrive at the hotel provided that cuestion past owing to reporta the sucedido.


the caso earnest reporta y denuncia have pleno atencion of autoridad competente. investigadornan did take all dato, descripcion relaciona cu denuncia earnest here. do not exclui cu casino (nan) cu they owing to visit will can help also cu fotonan capta during they're in one of the casinonan of the boy cual will can facilita the investigadornan relaciona cu the investigacion.

locual is the boy “michelangelo” autoridad will buske for her give cuenta of the denuncia earnest of the sucedido.

This is my understanding...

19 year old girl goes out to one of the night clubs with a girlfriend.  They meet this guy Michelangelo.  They all go to a couple of the casinos including the one at the Holiday Inn where the 19 year old decides to call it a night and walk back to her hotel (the Marriott).

This is the part that I'm not real sure about...

(whether it was the Michelangelo that followed her out, or if there was another guy out there waiting for her...maybe tipped off by Michelangelo...jmo) 

She leaves her girlfriend and "Michelangelo" in the casino but as she's walking she notices that he has followed her out and is walking slow?  He suggests a short cut back to her hotel,  that's where he tries to rape her?  I think it also says he taped her mouth shut to keep her from screaming, but that she fought for her life and got away from him.
She ran to her hotel and reported the occurancen to the police who r looking for a man with initials of JZP


Hi Sandy Leiva!   

From your understanding "JZP" is not the division that was investigating the incident?  TIA

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the caso is in hand of jzp.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9630.msg1334454#msg1334454

JZP = Jeugd en Zeden Politie

Dutch Google translation:

Youth and Vice Squad




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"We won't give up on you, Natalee.  You didn't give up on us, and we will continue with the investigation until we have all of the answers to your disappearance.  God be with you my Natalee!" Dave Holloway ARUBA
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« Reply #374 on: May 06, 2011, 08:22:08 PM »

Klaas, if you think we should snip it...please do so.  TIA 

Attempted rape of another young American girl!   

http://www.diario.aw/2011/05/mucha-muher-mericano-di-19-ana-cu-denuncia-pa-intento-di-violacion/

Papiamentu translation:

child muher mericano of 19 year cu denuncia for attempt of violacion

publication: tuesday, 3 may 2011.

categoria: general

one such “michelangelo” will worde busca for give cuenta:

oranjestad (aan): saturday marduga polisnan owing to bay atende one caso earnest cu owing to worde reporta. according the informe cu owing to arrive at oido of central of police y owing to stay registra for 4’ or y 30 minuut cu is solicita presencia of police at one high rise hotel is menciona at first instancia probably owing to hinca one person. but at arrival this not was the caso. patrol north cu owing to acudi at the hotel owing to come across cu one child muher mericano of inicialnan j.r. of 19 year of edad.

the child muher mericano owing to count ; police cu past owing to visit one night club at oranjestad y the was together cu one girlfriend y owing to come across cu one boy one such “michelangelo”.

they owing to bay visit various casino hour they was at holiday inn the denunciante j.r owing to dicidi of march bay marriott hotel y past owing to let his girlfriend y the boy michelangelo at the holiday inn. during the was canando direccion for marriott hotel at dado instant the is become his cara y the looking at the boy is march his slow. the boy owing to bise cu the can arrive his hotel more rapido if the take one short cut.

hour cu they did take one caminda more cortico y boy owing to gare for deal of rape, past owing to tapa his mouth for her not bark, but past owing to haye is struggle fight serious for defende his self for so the can owing to succeed core bay. hour past owing to arrive at the hotel provided that cuestion past owing to reporta the sucedido.


the caso earnest reporta y denuncia have pleno atencion of autoridad competente. investigadornan did take all dato, descripcion relaciona cu denuncia earnest here. do not exclui cu casino (nan) cu they owing to visit will can help also cu fotonan capta during they're in one of the casinonan of the boy cual will can facilita the investigadornan relaciona cu the investigacion.

locual is the boy “michelangelo” autoridad will buske for her give cuenta of the denuncia earnest of the sucedido.

In blue ^^^

Are they saying that the video from one of the casino cameras will help in the investigation because it might have him on the video?
in this report it says in the last paragraph that
competent authoritys took down info given the discription and they are not excluding  checking photos of people in the casinos which can help facilitate finding who Micheangelo is and if the report made was done in earnest (truthful).

sorry i misquoted in your box. u did a very good transltion. sl
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« Reply #375 on: May 06, 2011, 08:28:04 PM »

From 2007

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2007/03/12/aruba-more-attention-on-sexual-abuse-of-handicaps/
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There was a case of sexual abuse of a mentally handicapped minor right in that period of time.   Due to her personal interest, she got in contact with Eric Lake, Youth- and Vice Squad inspector in Aruba and later also with chief superintendent of police Peter de Witte.
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http://www.kparuba.com/contacts.html
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« Reply #376 on: May 06, 2011, 08:29:07 PM »

Klaas

Considering I do not think that Aruba will allow Deepak and Satish to be questioned under oath regarding aspects of the Natalee Holloway case ... aspects which would be incriminating to the Kalpoes ... aspects would expose the corrupt investigation which prevented justice from prevailing ... could it be that the financial backers of this lawsuit will drop the lawsuit IF McGraw's attorneys do not attempt to negotiate.

Either way ... I could be wrong but ... I do not think this defamation lawsuit will end up in the courts.

Bottom Line:  The outcome will be what the outcome will be.  I wish we had a crystal ball.

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« Reply #377 on: May 06, 2011, 08:32:06 PM »

Klaas, if you think we should snip it...please do so.  TIA 

Attempted rape of another young American girl!   

http://www.diario.aw/2011/05/mucha-muher-mericano-di-19-ana-cu-denuncia-pa-intento-di-violacion/

Papiamentu translation:

child muher mericano of 19 year cu denuncia for attempt of violacion

publication: tuesday, 3 may 2011.

categoria: general

one such “michelangelo” will worde busca for give cuenta:

oranjestad (aan): saturday marduga polisnan owing to bay atende one caso earnest cu owing to worde reporta. according the informe cu owing to arrive at oido of central of police y owing to stay registra for 4’ or y 30 minuut cu is solicita presencia of police at one high rise hotel is menciona at first instancia probably owing to hinca one person. but at arrival this not was the caso. patrol north cu owing to acudi at the hotel owing to come across cu one child muher mericano of inicialnan j.r. of 19 year of edad.

the child muher mericano owing to count ; police cu past owing to visit one night club at oranjestad y the was together cu one girlfriend y owing to come across cu one boy one such “michelangelo”.

they owing to bay visit various casino hour they was at holiday inn the denunciante j.r owing to dicidi of march bay marriott hotel y past owing to let his girlfriend y the boy michelangelo at the holiday inn. during the was canando direccion for marriott hotel at dado instant the is become his cara y the looking at the boy is march his slow. the boy owing to bise cu the can arrive his hotel more rapido if the take one short cut.

hour cu they did take one caminda more cortico y boy owing to gare for deal of rape, past owing to tapa his mouth for her not bark, but past owing to haye is struggle fight serious for defende his self for so the can owing to succeed core bay. hour past owing to arrive at the hotel provided that cuestion past owing to reporta the sucedido.


the caso earnest reporta y denuncia have pleno atencion of autoridad competente. investigadornan did take all dato, descripcion relaciona cu denuncia earnest here. do not exclui cu casino (nan) cu they owing to visit will can help also cu fotonan capta during they're in one of the casinonan of the boy cual will can facilita the investigadornan relaciona cu the investigacion.

locual is the boy “michelangelo” autoridad will buske for her give cuenta of the denuncia earnest of the sucedido.

In blue ^^^

Are they saying that the video from one of the casino cameras will help in the investigation because it might have him on the video?
in this report it says in the last paragraph that
competent authoritys took down info given the discription and they are not excluding  checking photos of people in the casinos which can help facilitate finding who Micheangelo is and if the report made was done in earnest (truthful).

sorry i misquoted in your box. u did a very good transltion. sl

No worries about the quote stack, it happens to all of us!

Thanks for your help, and for the compliment.   

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« Reply #378 on: May 06, 2011, 08:33:44 PM »

Klaas

Considering I do not think that Aruba will allow Deepak and Satish to be questioned under oath regarding aspects of the Natalee Holloway case ... aspects which would be incriminating to the Kalpoes ... aspects would expose the corrupt investigation which prevented justice from prevailing ... could it be that the financial backers of this lawsuit will drop the lawsuit IF McGraw's attorneys do not attempt to negotiate.

Either way ... I could be wrong but ... I do not think this defamation lawsuit will end up in the courts.

Bottom Line:  The outcome will be what the outcome will be.  I wish we had a crystal ball.

Janet

I have always hoped that this would go to trial. More is to be gained.

 
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« Reply #379 on: May 06, 2011, 08:36:08 PM »

Klaas

Considering I do not think that Aruba will allow Deepak and Satish to be questioned under oath regarding aspects of the Natalee Holloway case ... aspects which would be incriminating to the Kalpoes ... aspects would expose the corrupt investigation which prevented justice from prevailing ... could it be that the financial backers of this lawsuit will drop the lawsuit IF McGraw's attorneys do not attempt to negotiate.

Either way ... I could be wrong but ... I do not think this defamation lawsuit will end up in the courts.

Bottom Line:  The outcome will be what the outcome will be.  I wish we had a crystal ball.

Janet

I have always hoped that this would go to trial. More is to be gained.

 

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"We won't give up on you, Natalee.  You didn't give up on us, and we will continue with the investigation until we have all of the answers to your disappearance.  God be with you my Natalee!" Dave Holloway ARUBA
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