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« Reply #820 on: June 02, 2011, 12:28:37 AM »

http://www.diario.aw/2011/05/apesar-di-fingerprints-haya-na-bentana-acusado-ta-nenga-di-a-drenta-den-camber-di-hotel/

Papiamentu translation:

despite of fingerprints achieve at window, acusado is deny of owing to enter in camber of hotel

publication: monday, 30 may 2011.

categoria: policial

oranjestad(aan): a.o.j.f owing to present fast of huez diabierna, debi at the mature cu past owing to wordo acusa of steal one camera digital, one celular black berry y 70 dollar for of camber of one tourist cu was kedando in riu hotel. this owing to sosode on 6 of april 2011. huez owing to ask about fiscal if past owing to achieve contacto cu the madam mericano that was the person perhudica in the caso here y past owing to tell cu hour cu past owing to calling, the person cu owing to coi the telephone owing to tell cu the was number robez.pues fiscal not owing to succeed come in contacto cu the sra mericano. huez owing to ask about the acusado if is berdad cu past owing to enter in the camber cu was at of three floor of the hotel for steal the pertenencianan of the tourist y past owing to tell cu not.

huez owing to mustre on the mature if cu his fingerprints owing to wordo achieve on the window cu have to owing to wordo wing for enter.

the tourist in his declaracion at police owing to tell cu marduga hour cu past owing to arise for bay bathroom, past owing to ripara cu his pertenencianan not was tey more. past owing to tell cu past owing to spanta so much y feel his self so unsafe, cu past owing to dicidi of change his pasashi y go back merca more trempan, cu the intencion of never more trip for aruba.

huez owing to ask about the acusado if the was have one splicacion of con his fingerprints can owing to arrive on the window, if enberdad the not owing to bay eynan y the not was have one splicacion. past owing to tell huez if cu the have three various trabao y cu the not have necessary of steal.

the is electricien, the is cumpra y sell car y the is clip cabey of person. huez owing to remarca cu in pasado the acusado have to owing to pay one multa at or.m for one caso of ladronicia not come fast of huez. advocate vito carlo owing to indica at huez cu his cliente not owing to pay the so calling ‘voorwaardelijk sepot’ (Conditional Closure of the case) for ladronicia, but for her mature cu one car cu past owing to cumpra was steal.

door of the caso ey autoridadnan was have his fingerprints y hour cu they owing to achieve the fingerprints on window, past owing to match cu esun cu was have in they dossier. fiscal owing to tell cu despite cu the acusado is deny, the is achieve the acusacion comproba, mirando cu without doubt the fingerprints achieve is of a.f. past owing to tell cu the type of actonan criminal here is much bad for we island, mirando also cu the tourist owing to tell cu never more the is bay go back aruba.

according fiscal, the tourist muy probably will count ; his amigonan of his bad experiencia y they niether will wanted trip for aruba. fiscal owing to exigi one castigo incondicional of 3 month, kitando the time cu past owing to sit end in detencion preventivo.

advocate carlo owing to tell cu the question is if the fingerprints achieve on the window is sufficient for condena his cliente. past owing to trece fast one caso in cual the huez not owing to achieve the fingerprints only sufficient for condena the person.

the advocate owing to trece fast also cu despite is far busca, have maneranan for coi fingerprints of person y transferi they for another caminda. past owing to splica cu on youtube could you look at con could you employ scotch tape for less y opone fingerprints.

the acusado owing to stay stop upstairs cu the not owing to steal because the not have motibo, but huez at end owing to dune one castigo equal at thing fiscal owing to exigi, then 3 month incondicional, kitando the time cu past owing to sit in detencion preventivo.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #821 on: June 02, 2011, 12:46:33 AM »

http://amigoe.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8328:williams-vlucht-uit-politiebureau&catid=108:artikelen-aruba&Itemid=199

Google translation:

Williams fled police

Last Updated on Wednesday, 01 June 2011 5:36 p.m.
Wednesday, 01 June 2011 5:04 p.m.

ORANGE CITY - Chris Williams Tuesday from the police station in Oranjestad escaped. The prisoner was able to flee when it was aired by staff Cuerpo Especial Aruba (CEA). Despite a massive search in the neighborhood, including the police helicopter was called in, the police can no longer pick up the suspect. Williams is accused of public violence. He is still a fugitive, police said this morning.

Normally prisoners aired during the day. Since this day for some reason has not happened, Williams was the evening aired. The precise facts surrounding the escape was not disclosed. However, it was immediately after the flight held a big search, first in the center of Orange City and then in Dakota. At one point, the suspect in the Sweelinckstraat behind Elmar, are identified. Agents also searched the area but found the prisoner not. As a precaution, to post officers at a house in Dakota, where the family of the accused resides. But Williams did not show up here. Until the late hours kept the police search in which use was made of the police helicopter, Warda Nos Costa and staff of CEA. Williams was arrested last Friday by the police team arrested.


According to his lawyer, he is in Venezuela...but he'll come back for court.   

http://www.24ora.com/corte-mainmenu-29/32289-edwin-duijneveld-fugitivo-chris-williams-no-ta-na-aruba-mas-.html

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edwin duijneveld: fugitivo chris williams do not at aruba more

wednesday, 01 june 2011 19:13

advocate edwin duijneveld in one interview owing to splica cu his cliente do not at aruba more. kizas the will go back day cu the caso wordo present in corte. already end the advocate self owing to achieve one call cu codigo 0058 on his cellular. 0058 is codigo of venezuela y is asumi cu chris williams is at venezuela. the unique as cu the can owing to leave for of aruba is cu boat. esey owing to sosode rapido y in one form relampago owing to mobiliza will necesario for saca chris williams for of aruba. the advocate mr edwin diuijneveld owing to splica also cu his cliente owing to let know cu the will huy if the achieve one chens.

esey past owing to tell close fiscal y past owing to tell also close huez comisario. both autoridad owing to show cu not can let chris williams in freedom because the investigacion still not owing to termina. at quality apartments past owing to wordo deteni hour cu past owing to go lever car together cu two amigo. the trato cu all three owing to achieve was uno bad y till even owing to agredi all three. owing to less they panja till even y they owing to feel cu owing to saca potret of they. dikon owing to saca they potret the advocate not know. is of three trip cu chris williams is cay close y day cu past owing to sit 27 month according the advocate was for algo cu the not owing to comete. neither although the time ey owing to tell that owing to hacie tog husticia not owing to actua. the trip here is same. owing to go at one funeraria for atende cu krans y owing to come across cu ex of the mother. the not owing to strike the ex of his mother. is he owing to go dale y one another person owing to enter agredie. the advocate not owing to menciona if is his amigonan cu was cune the instant ey. the caso is interesting assure mirando cu in one form relampago the sospechoso owing to huy for of keep of police y in less cu 24 hour already end owing to bandona aruba y seems is at venezuela according the version of the own advocate.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #822 on: June 02, 2011, 01:11:05 AM »

http://arubaherald.com/court/99-lawyer-knows-whereabouts-of-fugitive.html

Lawyer knows whereabouts of fugitive         

Wednesday, 01 June 2011 17:42
 
 
Local Lawyer Mr. Edwin Duijneveld informed the general public that he is aware of the whereabouts of his client Chris Williams. Mr. Williams fled from the Oranjestad Police Station on Tuesday night. He is currently facing brutal physical abuse charges and was detained during the week-end. His lawyers said that his client will not turn himself in as long as the investigation that has been requested starts. The lawyer and his client refer to an investigation regarding the inadequate treatment his client received during his arrest.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #823 on: June 02, 2011, 01:19:01 AM »


Justice for Natalee,



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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #824 on: June 02, 2011, 09:47:45 AM »

WEDNESDAY JUNE 2, 2010

Natalee Holloway Suspect Wanted in Peru
Wednesday June 2, 2010


LATEST DETAILS FROM CBS NEWS:

NEW YORK (CBS) Joran van der Sloot, the Dutch national who has been detained several times in the Natalee Holloway case, has now been named the prime suspect in the murder of a Peruvian girl, according to local reports.

Crimesider has been told that an Aruban prosecutor described van der Sloot as being on the run, but we have been unable to independently confirm it.

Early Wednesday morning, Stephany Flores Ramirez, 21, was found dead in a hotel room in Peru located on the avenue Miraflores district of Lima, Peruvian newspaper El Comercio reports. According to police reports, the girl was brutally stabbed and was found wrapped in a blanket in a pool of blood.

Ramirez was the daughter of racecar driver and well-known businessman Ricardo Flores.

According to Peruvian police, she was last seen with van der Sloot, who has not been located.

According to the Peruvian newspaper, the hotel room where Ramirez's body was found was registered under van der Sloot's name. Hotel employees also told police that they saw him with the girl over the weekend.

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UPDATE: BNO News is reporting the Prosecutor's Office in Aruba has confirmed that Joran Van Der Sloot is a suspect in the death of a Peruvian woman. Interpol has reportedly issued an international arrest warrant.

UPDATE: A police news conference is expected in Peru within the hour to confirm or clarify reports concerning Joran Van Der Sloot's alleged involvement in this murder case. CBS42 will update the story as soon as that information comes in.   

An international news agency is reporting Joran Van Der Sloot is a suspect in the murder of a 21 year old woman in Peru. Van Der Sloot was the prime suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway in Aruba five years ago.  According to BNO News the victim in this new case is Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramirez who was found dead this morning after disappearing Friday. Her family says she was last seen leaving a casino with Van Der Sloot.]

CBS 42 News will continue to follow this developing story.

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Natalee-Holloway-Suspect-Wanted-in-Peru/aX4VxsGyFkiLkrg1pW-65g.cspx
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« Reply #827 on: June 02, 2011, 10:16:04 PM »

http://www.facebook.com/senorfrogsaruba

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #828 on: June 03, 2011, 02:43:30 AM »


Justice for Natalee,



and Stephany!
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #829 on: June 03, 2011, 01:49:53 PM »



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« Reply #830 on: June 03, 2011, 03:49:34 PM »

FYI - Someone's PC has been compromised.  I don't know if it's Kathy Drena, Angie, Rob, Ramm or WHO but Kathy Drenga was the first virus email I received.  These are not intentional from Kathy or anyone else we know but they have gotten ahold of our email addresses from someone's address book. 

DO NOT open any link in an email you don't know.  DO NOT open a link in an email if it ends in find11.html it is a virus and will get ahold of YOUR address book as well and who knows what else. 
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« Reply #831 on: June 03, 2011, 10:24:37 PM »

Klaas - I got one from Angie a week ago. (or her email addie anyway)  Different link but I think it might be related.  FWIW
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« Reply #832 on: June 03, 2011, 10:38:16 PM »

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« Reply #833 on: June 04, 2011, 12:11:12 AM »

Klaas - I got one from Angie a week ago. (or her email addie anyway)  Different link but I think it might be related.  FWIW

Yeah there was more to it than just the Find11.html but it ended in that. 

Again, none of these people we know are doing this intentionally, it is a virus that has infected their computer.
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« Reply #834 on: June 04, 2011, 12:12:18 AM »

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« Reply #835 on: June 04, 2011, 12:40:16 AM »

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« Reply #836 on: June 04, 2011, 12:41:52 AM »

FYI - Someone's PC has been compromised.  I don't know if it's Kathy Drena, Angie, Rob, Ramm or WHO but Kathy Drenga was the first virus email I received.  These are not intentional from Kathy or anyone else we know but they have gotten ahold of our email addresses from someone's address book. 

DO NOT open any link in an email you don't know.  DO NOT open a link in an email if it ends in find11.html it is a virus and will get ahold of YOUR address book as well and who knows what else. 


never click on links in an email.

it started when that person tried to get into sm. they used old emails to try to hit sm members


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« Reply #837 on: June 04, 2011, 01:32:13 AM »

Domain Name state.nj.us ? (U.S.)
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The Casino Control Commission administers the Casino Control Act and its regulations to assure the public trust and confidence in the credibility and integrity of the casino industry and casino operations. The Commission also supports the continued development of tourist and convention facilities in Atlantic City, which contributes to the economic strength and viability of the tourist, convention, and resort industry in the state of New Jersey.

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The Casino Control Commission's task of regulating casinos is shared with the New Jersey Division of Gaming Enforcement. While the Casino Control Commission is an independent agency which is in, but not of, the Department of Treasury, the Division of Gaming Enforcement is an arm of the state's Attorney General's Office. It conducts investigations into license applicants and reports the results to the commission.When it comes to license applications or regulatory violations, the Division of Gaming Enforcement acts as the police/prosecuting agency while the Casino Control Commission acts in a quasi-judicial manner ruling on those applications and assessing penalties for any regulatory violations.

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Location Continent : North America
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About the Commission

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The Casino Control Commission administers the Casino Control Act and its regulations to assure the public trust and confidence in the credibility and integrity of the casino industry and casino operations. The Commission also supports the continued development of tourist and convention facilities in Atlantic City, which contributes to the economic strength and viability of the tourist, convention, and resort industry in the state of New Jersey.

Overview
The New Jersey Casino Control Commission is the panel charged with regulating New Jersey's casinos. It is made up of five members who are appointed by the Governor and confirmed by the State Senate. Commissioners serve staggered, five-year terms and can only be removed for cause. By law, no more than three commissioners can be of the same political party, a requirement that insures political balance on the panel.

The Casino Control Commission's task of regulating casinos is shared with the New Jersey Division of Gaming Enforcement. While the Casino Control Commission is an independent agency which is in, but not of, the Department of Treasury, the Division of Gaming Enforcement is an arm of the state's Attorney General's Office. It conducts investigations into license applicants and reports the results to the commission.When it comes to license applications or regulatory violations, the Division of Gaming Enforcement acts as the police/prosecuting agency while the Casino Control Commission acts in a quasi-judicial manner ruling on those applications and assessing penalties for any regulatory violations.

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Lifesong,

Thank you for that - you are a plethora of information.

There is some quote, either in statements or an article if I recall correctly --
Deepak said that he was standing by one of the tables while Joran was playing and I think someone, I think a guy at the table
thought that Deepak was giving Joran signals - in other words they were cheating and the guy got ticked off at them.

I've often thought, had a gut feeling that Joran cheated at the casinos and betcha deepak was in on it too as well as Jamie and Guido.

Remember how Paulus revealed he took Joran's winnings to deposit at the bank. Never made sense if you ask me, for a father to go run to the bank to deposit money UNLESS they were involved in money laundering, offshore banking etc. Which would explain why the "higher-ups" that Joran mentioned would cover for PAPA because he holds the cards on exposing the dirt. Follow the money.





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