Lively Case Discussion #592 3/22 - 3/26/2007

[Peaches]

Hi Cat, I suspect everyone's out enjoying spring weather !

Just an FYI on the pet food recall, little none had to take one of our pets into the vet this morning and learned some new facts regarding the recall. it seems one of the vet tech's had a cat on one of those foods, it became sick and as a result <gratefully it's survived>, our vet had to investigate all of this a bit deeper.

it seems that the wheat gluten was 'infected' with the rat poison because rats had chewed into the bags containing the gluten, their saliva contained the rat poison which then spread into the bags and infected the gluten. It also seems one pet food company actually refused the gluten and didn't use it, for they felt it appeared to be 'deteriorated'.

Our vet recommends we use organic food for now until this is all cleared up, due to the higher standards used in the production of those foods.

Do you have an example?  I only feed dry to the five cats and four dogs.  I think I buy Pedigree.  It's a yellow bag.  Lots to do today since I felt so crappy  the last two days.  Since the coffee is still in my stomach, maybe things are looking up.

Smoochies to ya!  (None, send me the cookie link please.  Have you thought of Ginger Snaps?  Fabulous for nausea.  I am an expert.
BBL

[klaasend]

did tom install this special smiley just for robots?  

San has her own smileys too, I want a smiley  

   

 

[mishy]

Klaas, of course you would have the answer to None's smiley request...you are the bestest    

[Cat]

Eagles choose fish,where availible.Hawks and owls eat Mammels.  just  remember the female is larger.Cat

[nonesuche]

did tom install this special smiley just for robots?  

San has her own smileys too, I want a smiley  

   

 

  just kidding, of course it's sooooo ME the daisy !

[nonesuche]

Peaches I will have to ask little none about what kind the vet recommended, I leave all that up to her but I'll email you what she said, ok?

ginger snaps? I fear I'm struggling just to keep up with butter, sugar, choclate, orange and lemon cream but if I can make some ginger cookies just for you I'd do my best  

[San]

did tom install this special smiley just for robots?  

San has her own smileys too, I want a smiley  

   

 

  just kidding, of course it's sooooo ME the daisy !

I like mine better.  And I have more.

           

[San]

I think I solved Anna's hawk problem in the lounge .

[nonesuche]

You're so mean to me San    I'm gonna tell on you

i am afraid to find out what you recommended for the hawks  

here's a smiley just for Klaas    

[Anna]

Eagles choose fish,where available.Hawks and owls eat Mammels.  just  remember the female is larger.Cat

You are a wealth of information.  I have TN River very close, it's just straight down, lol!  Bluffs and huge unpopulated areas like 800 acre hunting club where no one ever hunts plus trees planted for paper mill harvesting.  They could go live in those areas and not my back yard!

Must study up on birds as I am being over run up here!  One mocking bird has learned to imitate a puppy crying just to further terrorize me.  Guess even birds have a sense of humor.

Thank you for the info.  Must learn more about these things.  Maybe I should get cats to keep the birds at bay.

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[crazybabyborg]

Morning monkeys! I'm so happy to see all the info on the pet food here. There still has been no suggestion of anything wrong with dry food, right?

None, thanks for bringing us your vet's insight. That scenario makes sense. BTW..........you have an e-mail to send me!

I'M LOOKING FOR NONESY COOKIES TODAY! YIPPEE!!!

[crazybabyborg]

Anna, you look MAHVELOUS DARLING! I always look for your outfits and you always come shining through!  

[msmarple]

Yes, Anna reminds me of Princess Di - I always looked forward to seeing what she was wearing.

[crazybabyborg]

Yes, Anna reminds me of Princess Di - I always looked forward to seeing what she was wearing.

Of all the avatars, MsMarple, yours is inspiring and captures the spirit of Easter. I love that you chose it: the cage is far more beautiful because you did.

My name means "Lily", too!  

[LilPuma]

Aha!  I knew I wasn't imagining it was an eagle.  And some of these birds are HUGE, too, wingspan wide as my own arms outreached.  I am going to post a secocnd photo in the lounge on the panda thread of the hawk.

Can you tell if this one is possibly a female?  Now there is a thought!  Imagine whole nests of them stalking my Yorkies!  

And Good Morning, all!

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I saw something on TV about a woman who moved to the desert and built her own little dome house.  She was new to the desert and loved the house, but some large bird took one of her cats.  

I saw an eagle up close and personal at a Pet Smart once.  He couldn't fly and the handler took him to places for PR.  My mom, who is afraid of parakeets and won't let my brother leave his Cockatoo out when she's there, had a semi-panic attack and headed for the back of the store.   They are huge.

[msmarple]

cbb - thanks (re. my avatar). It really is a lovely shot, isn't it?

Anna - Mocking birds will make year-round homes   . But they won't eat your dogs! We had a "family" that lived in a large pyracanthia (sp?) bush. They could call our dog, which drove the poor thing crazy ...

[NM]

I saw something on TV about a woman who moved to the desert and built her own little dome house.  She was new to the desert and loved the house, but some large bird took one of her cats.  

I saw an eagle up close and personal at a Pet Smart once.  He couldn't fly and the handler took him to places for PR.  My mom, who is afraid of parakeets and won't let my brother leave his Cockatoo out when she's there, had a semi-panic attack and headed for the back of the store.   They are huge.

Hey Monkeys, LilPuma,
I took Max (1yr golden) into Petsmart, and instead of his insane let's pull mom all through the pet store mode, we walked in, Max calmly by my side, I was like "oh, look at me", "look at my well behaved dog".  

We got some toys, bones, our basket was filling up, we went to the cat aisle and were picking out some gifts when Max looked up and saw the giant cat on the cat aisle sign, he started w/ a low growl, and backing up, then broke out in a mad dash for the front doors w/ me alternating between a beginning skiier going up the rope-tow and a stumbling drunk. Basket and toys flew in all directions. Ah, the good times.

[LilPuma]

I saw something on TV about a woman who moved to the desert and built her own little dome house.  She was new to the desert and loved the house, but some large bird took one of her cats.  

I saw an eagle up close and personal at a Pet Smart once.  He couldn't fly and the handler took him to places for PR.  My mom, who is afraid of parakeets and won't let my brother leave his Cockatoo out when she's there, had a semi-panic attack and headed for the back of the store.   They are huge.

Hey Monkeys, LilPuma,
I took Max (1yr golden) into Petsmart, and instead of his insane let's pull mom all through the pet store mode, we walked in, Max calmly by my side, I was like "oh, look at me", "look at my well behaved dog".  

We got some toys, bones, our basket was filling up, we went to the cat aisle and were picking out some gifts when Max looked up and saw the giant cat on the cat aisle sign, he started w/ a low growl, and backing up, then broke out in a mad dash for the front doors w/ me alternating between a beginning skiier going up the rope-tow and a stumbling drunk. Basket and toys flew in all directions. Ah, the good times.

  Fortunately, my mother didn't pull me along with her.  

Size - The female bald eagle is 35 to 37 inches, slightly larger than the male. With a wingspan which varies from 79 to 90 inches. The male bald eagle has a body length from 30 to 34 inches. The wingspan ranges from 72 to 85 inches. Bald eagles weigh from ten to fourteen pounds. Northern birds are significantly larger than their southern relatives.

That's a wing span of about 7 feet!  Bigger than most NBA players.    Note the female is larger than the male, as Cat mentioned about hawks.

[NM]

eek!  I would have pulled Max out of the store.  Guess I never saw our national bird up close!!

[Kat_Gram]

About the Pet Food. Menu Foods had a list. None of the wet Fancy Feast
I buy or the Iams dry for cats was on the list. I then got an email from Purina Canada Cat Club ( yes we belong ) telling me that anything Purina CANADA made was ok. So we are good.
I work for Agriculture and we have not had anything from anyone about this yet.
The Canadian Food Inspection Agency CFIA is part of where I work and they do the inspections for human food. Maybe this should be changed.
If I get any of the press releases at my work addy, I will post them here.
I went to the organic store yesterday and bought local organic products I was so freaked out by this poison in the food chain, animal or human......
So much for any quality control mechanisms in these factories.