Lively Case Discussion #592 3/22 - 3/26/2007

[2NJSons_Mom]

carpe....I have followed your pictures for a long time....today I do not see
the image....can you tell me if this is from the drain area...?

Me, too, MeMere...glad I'm not alone.  Was wondering if it's this computer..

[Cat]

All the arubans we talk and complain about are forigen,hmmmmm.It is a strange coincidence,imo.CAT

[carpe noctem]

carpe....I have followed your pictures for a long time....today I do not see
the image....can you tell me if this is from the drain area...?

hey memere,

don't feel bad. lol


many people say that can't see what I'm seeing in these.

I must be wacky.  

They are slides from the #24 basin near the Marriott, Palm Beach.

That basin, with the bag.  I think inverted... and then for

the different color filter shots, I kept tweaking color and

brightness.

[carpe noctem]

that > they

I meant.

[carpe noctem]

All the arubans we talk and complain about are forigen,hmmmmm.It is a strange coincidence,imo.CAT

 

[Mere]

carpe....I have followed your pictures for a long time....today I do not see
the image....can you tell me if this is from the drain area...?

Me, too, MeMere...glad I'm not alone.  Was wondering if it's this computer..

Hi...I spoke too quickly.... ....I do not see anything in the first four links...but do see what I have always see in the one that carpe used
as his original....I would just like the Arubans to come out with the truth about Natalee so that no one would have to keep guessing....it is so
unfair of them to hold this information....and for what....well I know for what....but this is legally and morally reprehensible.....the info Klaas got from the Aruba forum tells what happens when a community is as
stressed as that one is...big crime....no tourists...!

[carpe noctem]

Try this one on  for size ---

use it as a guide

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Let the white lines guide you in


then compare it with the others.

[carpe noctem]

Try this one on  for size ---

use it as a guide

----

Let the white lines guide you in


then compare it with the others.

http://s55.photobucket.com/albums/g130/arubapictures1/?action=view&current=NATALEESBIRTHDAY10212006-1.png

[carpe noctem]

carpe....I have followed your pictures for a long time....today I do not see
the image....can you tell me if this is from the drain area...?

Me, too, MeMere...glad I'm not alone.  Was wondering if it's this computer..

Hi...I spoke too quickly.... ....I do not see anything in the first four links...but do see what I have always see in the one that carpe used
as his original....I would just like the Arubans to come out with the truth about Natalee so that no one would have to keep guessing....it is so
unfair of them to hold this information....and for what....well I know for what....but this is legally and morally reprehensible.....the info Klaas got from the Aruba forum tells what happens when a community is as
stressed as that one is...big crime....no tourists...!

>>> AMEN , to that!!!!

[msmarple]

More reports from the Aruba bulletin board about crime problems in Aruba.

http://www.aruba-bb.com/viewtopic.php?p=503301&highlight=#503301


Kododo
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Joined: 24 Nov 2002
Posts: 130

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:25 pm    Post subject:    
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I could go into 'great details', but will be re-labelled AGAIN as an Aruba bashing aruban....
In past posting I warned against the "rose colored glasses", only to get rediculed....The Island is no longer safe, as many remembers the past.
If only every victimized tourist would post their experience(not being shamefull), and if the 'local' papers were printed in English, then the 'shades of Jamaica' will shine thru.
Crime is high, and ever increasing in violence on the island !!!!!!!!!!!!!


ryusam
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Joined: 12 May 2004
Posts: 126

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:03 am    Post subject:    

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Kododo, sorry to say but I'd have to agree with you unfortunetly. This incident at these villas is but the tip of the iceberg. I know I'm going to get criticized for saying this bit so be it. I also agree with alot of other posters, crime can happen anywhere and does. But when I'm going on vacation I don t want to be looking over my shoulder all the time to be the next victim, and spending 3 k a week for it. I can do it at home for 3 k less.. With the money we're all spending in Aruba these days to go on vacation the last thing we want is to be a victim of a crime. But it happens every day of the week to tourists and locals alike. I also agree, if all who have heard of, or been a witness too, or even a victim, we could add another section to this bulletin board. Why some on here continue to sugar coat it, its is amazing to me. 90% of us who post on this board are just vacationers, pure and simple. Who happen to love this once very simple Island. Those days are gone. Make now doubt about it. All this has happened for a hundred reasons, no need to bring up every little pet complaint, or tit for tat crime storys on here. If you've been going there for a while like us, "23 years", theres no need to explain it to you. You should know whats going on!!! If you don t, and don 't wanna find out, or don t care, and wanna walk around with your head up someplace, good luck with your sunny days at the beach attitude, you just might end up on the daily police journal like so many hundred others have!!! And yes before any of ya ask, I've been a victim also!!!


Chris
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Joined: 24 Nov 2002
Posts: 15643
Location: New York
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:31 am    Post subject:    

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I just returned from the island last night, after a wonderful 3 weeks there. I will NOT go into details, so please don't ask, but this was not the only home invasion last week while the renters were there. I know of one other at the beginning of last week where the couple was sleeping, and their rented home was robbed between midnight and 5am of cash ( just what was in the wallet at the time), wallet, camera, etc. The home did have a security system, and was alarmed at the time of the robbery, but came to find out, a "couple of windows" were not on the alarm system and one of those windows was the point of entry.

The next day, the security system was corrected to include motion detectors, but their belongings were not recovered.

A PLBR member was also mugged in front of the RIU the week before at 7:30pm walking back to the resort.

Like anywhere else in the world, precautions should be taken.

I am very sorry to hear another was robbed last week.


Eagle-Beach Boy
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Joined: 06 Oct 2004
Posts: 1019
Location: Burlington, Ontario, Canada
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:42 am    Post subject:    

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We have been going to Aruba since 1989.  

I just want to say:- "Our Aruba of yesteryear is not Aruba of today".  

I base this on the great increase in non-Aruban workers who come from a different culture where crime is more a way of life.
 

dreamingwithyou
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Joined: 24 May 2006
Posts: 445
Location: Maryland
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:06 am    Post subject:    

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I have heard that illegal drug use is on the rise as well, probably fueling the need to rob/mug tourists to pay for their expensive habit.
 

arubajoey
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Joined: 07 Feb 2003
Posts: 2231

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:20 am    Post subject:    

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I got a very big laugh out of you Aruba Coolaid drinkers stating that it must be the "foreign workers".

Yeah, thats right, no Aruban's are capable of crime.

Like Arubadebi said on another thread the Arubans are "gentle loving people". Come on folks you don't have "rose-colored" glasses on anymore you have blinders on.

Picture yourselves as the three monkey's

SEE NO EVIL - HEAR NO EVIL - SPEAK NO EVIL

That's how you view Aruba and it's peolpe. Nice thoughts but not very realistic.

So for the rest of us in the REAL world I will approach Aruba as I always have and that is not to ever let my guard down.

Here is a job for Eddy and others on the Island. How about getting us the REAL statistics from the Aruban Government/Police on Crime Statistics.

The word has long been out - Open Season on Tourists.

Cops don't even bother to investigate.

Thanks klaas, and thanks for posting on M&C thread.

[carpe noctem]

Maybe this one is easier to make out?

     

[San]

Maybe this one is easier to make out?

     

   

[carpe noctem]

If you're happy and ya know it...


CLAP YOUR FEET!

[Mere]

If you're happy and ya know it...


CLAP YOUR FEET!

I'll bet Anita loves you...!  

[msmarple]

From the bulletin board post(s) that klaas posted:

Here is a job for Eddy and others on the Island. How about getting us the REAL statistics from the Aruban Government/Police on Crime Statistics.

And "Eddy" would be ... ??

[Peaches]

From the bulletin board post(s) that klaas posted:

Here is a job for Eddy and others on the Island. How about getting us the REAL statistics from the Aruban Government/Police on Crime Statistics.

And "Eddy" would be ... ??

Edwin Comenencia?   Minister of Sneakiness?

[carpe noctem]

Ding dong, you sleepy head


... THE WICKED WITCH IS DEAD!!!!!!!


     

[carpe noctem]

If you're happy and ya know it...


CLAP YOUR FEET!

I'll bet Anita loves you...!  

ha ha ha ha


RRRRRRRIGHT. Like a redheaded stepchild. - Dr. Evil  

[klaasend]

From the bulletin board post(s) that klaas posted:

Here is a job for Eddy and others on the Island. How about getting us the REAL statistics from the Aruban Government/Police on Crime Statistics.

And "Eddy" would be ... ??

Not sure but Eddy is one of the main suppliers of local information on that bulletin board

[carpe noctem]