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« Reply #340 on: July 15, 2011, 08:15:21 PM »

JUSTIFIED OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE

The Natalee Holloway Case

'The Abrams Report' for June 30
updated 10:30 a.m. PT, Fri., July. 1, 2005


KARIN JANSSEN, CHIEF PROSECUTOR, ARUBA:  The father and the mother have asked a friend of Joran‘s, the suspect, the minor suspect, to come to their home to tell them what he has explained to the police.  And that is - well, I can say was an obstruction of the investigation.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8430777


'The Abrams Report' for June 30
updated 10:30 a.m. PT, Fri., July. 1, 2005


ARLENE ELLIS-SCHIPPER, ARUBAN ATTORNEY: Well basically obstruction of justice is a criminal offense in our criminal code. However, there is an exoneration for family members in the first degree. So in the case of Mr. Van der Sloot it would not apply.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8430777


The Caylee Marie Anthony Case

Prosecutor Says Cindy Anthony Could Face Perjury Charges
Jul 7, 2011


Part of the state's case against Casey Anthony was that she chloroformed Caylee before placing duct tape over her mouth and nose which killed her. Computer searches done on the family's home computer for information about chloroform were allegedly done by Casey being that she was the only person home at the time.

Cindy Anthony shocked everyone by testifying that she was responsible for the searches. It was an obvious ploy to try and protect her daughter from the death penalty but it was a lie. The state came back with proof that Cindy Anthony was at work at the time.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/8213279/prosecutor_says_cindy_anthony_could.html?cat=17


Will Cindy Anthony Face Perjury Charges?
OCSO Says Decision Was In State Attorney's Hands
POSTED: 4:11 pm EDT July 12, 2011
UPDATED: 4:24 pm EDT July 12, 2011


ORLANDO, Fla. -- A spokeswoman for the District Attorney's Office told WESH 2 News on Tuesday that Cindy Anthony will not face criminal perjury charges.

The word came just hours after top investigators who looked into Caylee Anthony's disappearance and death spoke about their work for the first time since Casey Anthony was found not guilty of first-degree murder.

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http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/28524511/detail.html#ixzz1RvPkTp3K

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« Reply #341 on: July 15, 2011, 08:52:53 PM »

http://zoomaruba.com/

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #342 on: July 15, 2011, 09:04:41 PM »

http://zoomaruba.com/

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #343 on: July 15, 2011, 10:36:27 PM »

Zoomaruba is new to me!  I'll save the link.

I see Alberto Groeneveldt is have his usual gay old time.  He does enjoy himself, I've give him that! 


Looks like Renfro was at Zizzles.  Looked but didn't see her 

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=649675584&sk=wall

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« Reply #344 on: July 15, 2011, 10:44:21 PM »

Zoomaruba is new to me!  I'll save the link.

I see Alberto Groeneveldt is have his usual gay old time.  He does enjoy himself, I've give him that! 


Looks like Renfro was at Zizzles.  Looked but didn't see her 

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=649675584&sk=wall



I've got a picture saved of her from there recently...I'm looking.   
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #345 on: July 15, 2011, 10:56:30 PM »

www.facebook.com

This is it, she must have gone in the bathroom to take this picture of herself.   





She probably thought she was lookin' good, skeeeeery if you ask me.   
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #346 on: July 15, 2011, 11:16:53 PM »

http://zoomaruba.com/

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #347 on: July 15, 2011, 11:25:28 PM »

www.facebook.com

This is it, she must have gone in the bathroom to take this picture of herself.   





She probably thought she was lookin' good, skeeeeery if you ask me.   


OH, I thought that was for Halloween  Monkey Devil!
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« Reply #348 on: July 15, 2011, 11:26:29 PM »

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #349 on: July 16, 2011, 01:35:37 AM »





Justice for Natalee,





and Stephany!

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #350 on: July 16, 2011, 09:33:26 AM »

http://www.diario.aw/2011/07/buki-ta-indica-cu-joran-a-mata-stephany-na-un-manera-cruel-y-premedita/

book is indica cu joran owing to kill stephany at one as cruel y premedita

Papiamentu translation:

publication: saturday, 16 july 2011.

categoria: general

oranjestad(aan): in one book new cu owing to aparece on market calling ‘portrait or owing to monster: joran van der sloot’, is wordo tell cu joran van der sloot intencionalmente owing to asesina stephany flores at one as cruel. the book is basa his conclusion on 21 argument, cu have of haber cu investigacion of police. the book is revela cierto detayenan of the asesinato of the peruana. the book is write for lisa pulitzer y cole thompson y basa on the so calling ‘callans file’. callans file is one investigacion of 400 pagina of the boss of recherche peruvian juan callan. the is convenci cu joran is culpable of steal of stephany flores y asesinato of the young.

in the callans file can wordo read cu joran in presencia of his advocate y traductor is admiti cu past owing to steal for of stephany among another his coin, credit card y his car, first cu past owing to sofoca.

torture

stephany his curpa was so maltrata cu can wordo asumi cu joran owing to torture stephany for her can achieve the code of his carchinan of banco. according callan, this is show cu joran not have none respet for life human. joran is tell cu past owing to actua in defence own, after cu stephany will owing to strike the first. according callan, this is practicamente impossible of believe, mirando the heridanan earnest cu stephany was have at his cara, cabez y throat.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #351 on: July 16, 2011, 10:11:20 AM »

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/34162-cuerpo-policial-aruba-ta-honra-coleganan-cu-ta-recordando-nan-25-y-35-ana-di-servicio-na-e-comunidad.html

Papiamentu translation:

cuerpo policial aruba is honor ańanan of lealtad y of serve we country

thursday, 14 july 2011 11:54

monday 11 of july 2011, alto command of cuerpo policial was present for honor cuatro of they miembronan cu is sres. r.v. halley, d.d. jacobs, j.c. peterson y sra. b.r. frolijk. sr halley owing to accomplish 35 year of servicio, while cu sr. jacobs, sr. peterson y sra frolijk owing to accomplish 25 year of servicio in cuerpo policial. alto comisario, sr. adolfo richardson, owing to otorga the coleganan the acostumbrado envelop y owing to show his aprecio for all they ańanan of dedicacion y work duro at please of the comunidad. past owing to expresa his desire for her coleganan menciona can stay more much cu is possible cu k.p.a. for so help form y instrui the generacionnan new cu the experiencia extenso cu they owing to adkiri atraves of they carriere. also past owing to gradici the famianan, cu also owing to sostene the coleganan atraves of all the ańanan. this owing to sosode tanto in time good y in time bad. present at the ocasion here was miembronan of the korps management team y another coleganan of the various departamentonan y they famianan cu also owing to come honor the coleganan come across



http://www.facebook.com/notes/aruba-daily/police-honored-for-35-y-25-years-of-service/142442005835977

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #352 on: July 16, 2011, 09:19:30 PM »

Fabienne's back in Aruba...

http://fabiedushi.waarbenjij.nu/?page=profile&intTravelId=335182

Internship in the HR team of the Marriott



Profile
Name: Fabienne
Web address: http://fabiedushi.waarbenjij.nu/
Country: Netherlands
Age: 24 Years
In:     Apartments Sunshine      8:27 p.m.
Description:
My travel status: I am back at 201 days
My current journey: Internship in the HR tea ...  2011 (7 months, 1 week)

http://fabiedushi.waarbenjij.nu/Reisverslag/?Nederland/Internship+is+approved%21/&subdomain=fabiedushi&module=site&page=message&id=3899948

Travelogue
Fabienne, June 7, 2011    Netherlands Landgraaf    20 °   

Internship is approved!

Dushi's Hello! Here then again exactly one year after a travelogue. The latter was on my return travel to the Netherlands from Sao Paulo, Brazil, but now the trip again in a different direction! Finally I signed my contract and then come back. So then booked my ticket today and Wednesday, June 29 is it time again. I will depart from Schiphol Airport to Aruba Dushi Tera! Here, I have a month or holiday, official documents and then arrange each August 1 to take over the task of the Human Resource Coordinator of Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino. I am very curious about how the team works and hope, therefore, my only experience can do. For six months long can I join the team to end on January 12, 2012. But that is some time now some things and arrange a new adventure begins! Of course I'll keep you informed as much as it is Big kiss and much love, Fabienne

You can read more about her adventure here:

http://fabiedushi.waarbenjij.nu/?page=messages&intTravelId=335182
   

A little history in case some may have forgotten...

http://www.sti.fea.usp.br/conteudo.php?i=73&a=4&idinst=65

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Name: Fabienne Maessen
Institution: Maastricht University School of Business and Economics
Country: Netherlands
Year and Semester: 2010 / 1 semester.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=203.0

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MAESSEN, Fabienne   – blonde on beach and in photos at  Club Bahia with Joran during summer vacation 2006, around July 15, 2006. Was on the list of Tacopina’s character witnesses for Joran, pg 33 of court filing. Currently living in the NL with her parents.



http://www.zorpia.com/Fab0910

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3747.msg531276#msg531276

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Publicity Stunt Uncovered?
CFI has reason to believe that the Fabienne Massaen/ Joran Van der sloot public sightings were a coordinated publicity stunt. Could Fabienne Massaen simply be a hired 'blonde' intended to manipulate the mainstream media?

On July 21st, 2006, Inside Edition reported the following regarding the Joran/Fabienne Massaen retrun sighting in Aruba...

Natalee's mother, Beth Holloway Twitty talked with INSIDE EDITION's Jim Moret about Van der sloot's return to Aruba: "It's terrible," she said. "Whether this young girl is an Aruban girl, Dutch or and American, it doesn't matter and it's very sad that he would be allowed to just engage in his behavious again." Read the entire article at
http://www.insideedition.com/ourstories/inside_stories/story.aspx?storyid=297

That link didn't work for me, but I found this one on the wayback machine

http://web.archive.org/web/20060822203448/http://www.insideedition.com/ourstories/inside_stories/story.aspx?storyid=297


http://www.joranjoran.com/joran-van-der-sloot/de-aruba-tijd/fabiennemaessenvriendinvanjoranvandersloot



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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #353 on: July 17, 2011, 01:16:29 AM »

THE ENABLERS

The Natalee Holloway Case

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
Thursday, June 23, 2005


<snipped>

ANITA VAN DER SLOOT: The only thing he could read was the Bible he got from a very nice police guy. He got a Bible to read.  And he was telling me, Mommy, look at me, I'm reading the Bible. Did you ever think about that? And I think it's great. It's difficult to read.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,160471,00.html


The Caylee Anthony Case

Emergency Motion Filed In Case of Missing Toddler
POSTED: 11:32 am EDT July 28, 2008
UPDATED: 1:31 pm EDT July 29, 2008


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Casey Anthony asked to have her Bible be brought to her in jail, but her request was denied

"She's very religious. She'd feel great comfort. We tried to get that to her, but she's not allowed to have it," Cindy Anthony said.
 
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http://www.wesh.com/news/17013972/detail.html
 
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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
_____

“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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« Reply #354 on: July 17, 2011, 02:42:42 AM »


JUSTICE FOR NATALEE,


AND STEPHANY!

 
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #355 on: July 17, 2011, 09:28:54 AM »

texasmom

Thanks for always bringing the news and updates.  I appreciate it.


Klaas

There has been some order issued in the Kalpoe/McGraw case.  I'm not sure if it is anything.


Proceedings Held (Proceeding dates listed in descending order):


07/12/2011 at 04:00 pm in Department 69, Ramona G. See, Presiding
Ruling on Submitted Matter - Court's ruling and order entered


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« Reply #356 on: July 17, 2011, 10:35:44 AM »

THE RELEASE

The Caylee Anthony Case

Casey Anthony freed from jail early Sunday
Updated: Sunday, 17 Jul 2011, 9:40 AM EDT
Published : Saturday, 16 Jul 2011, 2:27 PM EDT


ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - Casey Anthony was freed from a Florida jail early Sunday, 12 days after she was acquitted of murder in the death of her 2-year-old daughter Caylee in a verdict that drew furious responses and even threats from people across the U.S. who had followed the case with rapt attention.

Anthony, wearing a pink T-shirt with blue jeans, left the jail at 12:14 a.m. with her attorney, Jose Baez. She was given $537.68 in cash from her jail account and escorted outside by two sheriff's deputies armed with semi-automatic rifles. Neither Anthony nor Baez said anything to reporters and others gathered outside.

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Anthony, 25, had been finishing her four-year sentence for telling investigators several lies, including that Caylee was kidnapped by a nonexistent nanny.

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http://www.myfoxorlando.com//dpp/all/071611-Anthony-future-uncertain#ixzz1SMiF6tnB


The Natalee Holloway Case

Loving Natalee
A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway


Page 182:  Helen is very positive.  "It looks good that they will remain in custody" she says.  Then just three hours after she tells me this encouraging news, a devastating call comes from an AP reporter.  Paulus van der Sloot and his attorney are bragging to everyone that all three suspects are getting out day after tomorrow!.  Then all the media start calling.  I call Helen, then FBI agent Bill and the U.S. vice-consul.  None of them have this information. So we tell the media it must be a rumor.  But the word is out all over the island from the defense side that all three suspects will walk.  Four and a half hours after this announcement is made to international media by Joran's father and his defense team, the FBI calls to tell me that it is indeed true.  So the three suspects who were last seen with my daughter, and who offered multiple versions of what happened that night, will go free.  And we are the last ones to find out.

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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
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« Reply #357 on: July 17, 2011, 10:36:45 AM »

The Downward Spiral

DR. DREW
Casey Anthony Trial Over but Drama Continues
Aired July 14, 2011 - 21:00   ET


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DREW PINSKY:  ... Do you think Casey is like Joran and that she may repeat the behaviors of the past? What do you think?

BETH HOLLOWAY: What I`ve seen with Joran is, even though, they don`t feel as if they`re being held accountable or responsible for their actions, they tend to always go into a downward spiral. And when I think of Casey, I cannot help see some similarities between Casey and Joran, and that, they`re starving for attention.

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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1107/14/ddhln.01.html

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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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« Reply #358 on: July 17, 2011, 11:31:38 AM »

texasmom

Thanks for always bringing the news and updates.  I appreciate it.


Klaas

There has been some order issued in the Kalpoe/McGraw case.  I'm not sure if it is anything.


Proceedings Held (Proceeding dates listed in descending order):


07/12/2011 at 04:00 pm in Department 69, Ramona G. See, Presiding
Ruling on Submitted Matter - Court's ruling and order entered


Thanks

You're welcome Buckeye, thank you as well for the news and updates you bring to us!

 
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #359 on: July 17, 2011, 11:41:49 AM »

I wonder what Fabienne thinks of Joran now?  Would she still want Joran to put the same hands on her that he used to torture, beat and eventually strangle Stephany to death?  I couldn't help but notice how pretty Fabienne is in her pictures.  I wonder if it's occurred to her how ugly she would look in pictures if Joran worked her over like he most likely did Natalee and then Stephany?    

Thanks for the updates/links/pics texasmom.
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