Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #859 6/13 - 8/28/11

[texasmom]

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/33062-curpa-haya-na-rif-di-barcadera.html

Papiamentu translation:

curpa without life achieve at rif of barcadera

sunday, 19 june 2011 15:28

diadomingo nightfall owing to achieve one curpa stick at some mangroven on one rif fast platform of barcadera. autoridadnan concerni is at the sitio y in careda of 6 or y half doctor at keep owing to constata dead. personal of rescate owing to succeed rescata the curpa y trece ground bek. stay pendiente for more info. come across

Better shot of where this body was actually found...

It was the body of a man, wonder if it's the missing American?  He lived in the same area.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9791.msg1400277#msg1400277

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=7699&offId=0

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/33278-caso-di-curpa-morto-den-rif-ta-hole-na-un-crimen.html

Papiamentu translation:

caso of curpa dead in rif is smell at one crimen

thursday, 23 june 2011 21:14

recherchenan cu is investigando the caso of the curpa without life achieve stick in the rifnan of barcadera is smell at one crimen. the curpa was in one estado of descompocision y have various version andando. is menciona cu the cara was all disfigura y ireconocible. also have one version cu the curpa was without cabez (head). the person have several day dead. owing to try achieve contactonan via police but they have the caso much close. he perdi self was live at barcadera. have suspicion cu can is the person here but none person wanted confirma. is being menciona cu he was enough depressed y know go for of cas end. pesey self not owing to beat alarma at once. recherche owing to atende cu his pareha on this also. the muher is work in one casino local. recherche owing to interoga the muher for saca last one detaye. he have family in exterior cu is pendiente for achieve know if berdad is they being keri owing to being achieve dead. owing to take away his pareha at aruba where the was live for confrontacion cu the curpa. is wait for cu will hear more of the caso here the dianan we fast.

[texasmom]

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/33279-hopi-placa-droga-y-seis-detencion-na-kudawecha.html

Papiamentu translation:

much coin, drugs y six detencion at kudawecha

thursday, 23 june 2011 21:14

one overall of six detencion is thing did take lugar at kudawecha diahuebs night. here the departamento of drugs owing to enter one cas y so place hand on esnan in low world. for some day end have some detencion tumando lugar at aeropuerto of aruba y also at the netherlands. esey nifica cu have person is suministrando the gruponan here cu drugs. the departamento of seccion crimen organiza owing to work rapidamente for finalmente leave duro y throw one inval at kudawecha. owing to coy several kilo of drugs. atributonan for empaketa drugs y also one suma of much thousand guilder. is talk of some diez thousand guilder. not owing to achieve arm of candela. this is one golpi much strong self at low world. one pabien at cuerpo across from drugs cu the tremendo trabao haci. esnan deteni is of nacionalidad local y colombia also.

There are a few pictures here:

http://www.einformante.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4582:autoridadnan-a-confisca-un-cantidad-grandi-di-droga-ayera-na-kudawecha&catid=1:policial&Itemid=16

[texasmom]

http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/natalee-holloway-s-mom-beth-compares-casey-anthony-and-joran-van-der-sloot

Cindy Adams
Crime Examiner

Natalee Holloway's mom, Beth compares Casey Anthony and Joran van der Sloot

June 24, 2011 1:49 am ET

Los Angeles, Calif. - On Thursday, Beth Holloway, the mother of missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway, compared the behavior of the man she believes killed her daughter, Joran van der Sloot and Casey Anthony, who's currently on trial for killing her toddler daughter, Caylee Anthony.

Casey, 25, is accused of murdering Caylee, 2, in the summer of 2008 using chloroform and duct tape.

Natalee, 18, was visiting Aruba in 2005 with her high school graduating class when she vanished after leaving a nightclub with van der Sloot.

“If Casey Anthony is the queen of all liars, then Joran van der Sloot... is without a doubt the king. He is believed to have killed Natalee Holloway...” noted HLN TV host Dr. Drew Pinsky.

Pinsky welcomed Beth to his show to discuss the similarities between Casey and van der Sloot.

“...both of them had the litany of lies – you know... from both of them. Something that I think is even more so striking is this mode of operation from the two,” said Beth.

She noted van der Sloot's story about Natalee's disappearance began similar to Casey's stories about Caylee, saying, the Dutchman initially said “Oh, I left her at the beach. She’s fine. No involvement. She’s alive,” and that Casey said in the beginning she had left Caylee “...with the nanny, she’s fine.”

Beth continued, “Then as things began to get a little warmer and more uncomfortable, then he changed it to, well, it was an accident, something tragic happened, but, you know, it was an accident. Same thing kind of with Casey. Well, it was an accident. Now, they’ve changed them from an alive Natalee and Caylee to a deceased Natalee and Caylee.”

She noted, “...then, now, they both tend to be leading towards now they’ve got them both deceased...”

Psychologist Lisa Boesky, also a guest on the show, chimed in saying, “...I think they both feel that they’re, obviously, above the law, above morals and values... I think the fact that they both alluded the police and investigators for so long really... It shows that level of superiority, that confidence that they told their lies, and it really shows some real lack of remorse, empathy, guilt.”

Pinsky said, “When I talk to profilers, they always make the point that they base their lies on sort of the receptivity of the audience. What the audience is likely to believe in the moment, and you know, they base it on us. People are actually feeling people who have empathy and who would, you know, are concerned and connected with our emotions, and maybe our ability to tolerate these lies evolves in a way that they present them...”

Beth said she describes the phenomenon as a “vortex of lies.”

She added, “...if anybody gets close to the vortex, they get sucked in or the perpetrators begin to throw people into the vortex.”

Pinsky stated he uses the word “vortex” to explain what those who lie do as well.

“...Casey Anthony creates a huge vortex. People like Vasco Thompson get pulled into the vortex. Any passersby just get kind of pulled in...”

Beth also said of Casey, “No parent of a missing, murdered child gives conflicting accounts to explain what happened to their child. And then, their child that’s missing winds up being found dead in three layers of garbage bag.”

 ::snipping2::

[texasmom]

Beth seems to get more beautiful each time I see her.She did so well last night!!!!

 

[Tamikosmom]

Beth seems to get more beautiful each time I see her.She did so well last night!!!!

 

Beth also has a "beautiful" heart.  She has the gift to inspire and encourage others.


 

[klaasend]

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/33062-curpa-haya-na-rif-di-barcadera.html

Papiamentu translation:

curpa without life achieve at rif of barcadera

sunday, 19 june 2011 15:28

diadomingo nightfall owing to achieve one curpa stick at some mangroven on one rif fast platform of barcadera. autoridadnan concerni is at the sitio y in careda of 6 or y half doctor at keep owing to constata dead. personal of rescate owing to succeed rescata the curpa y trece ground bek. stay pendiente for more info. come across

Better shot of where this body was actually found...

It was the body of a man, wonder if it's the missing American?  He lived in the same area.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9791.msg1400277#msg1400277

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=7699&offId=0

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/33278-caso-di-curpa-morto-den-rif-ta-hole-na-un-crimen.html

Papiamentu translation:

caso of curpa dead in rif is smell at one crimen

thursday, 23 june 2011 21:14

recherchenan cu is investigando the caso of the curpa without life achieve stick in the rifnan of barcadera is smell at one crimen. the curpa was in one estado of descompocision y have various version andando. is menciona cu the cara was all disfigura y ireconocible. also have one version cu the curpa was without cabez (head). the person have several day dead. owing to try achieve contactonan via police but they have the caso much close. he perdi self was live at barcadera. have suspicion cu can is the person here but none person wanted confirma. is being menciona cu he was enough depressed y know go for of cas end. pesey self not owing to beat alarma at once. recherche owing to atende cu his pareha on this also. the muher is work in one casino local. recherche owing to interoga the muher for saca last one detaye. he have family in exterior cu is pendiente for achieve know if berdad is they being keri owing to being achieve dead. owing to take away his pareha at aruba where the was live for confrontacion cu the curpa. is wait for cu will hear more of the caso here the dianan we fast.

So this guy was beheaded?  Must be a suicide right?

[texasmom]

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1012/Binnenland/article/detail/2457132/2011/06/24/Patrick-van-der-Eem-opgepakt.dhtml

Google translation:

[texasmom]

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE,

AND STEPHANY!

 

[texasmom]

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/33310-dopv-ta-topa-cu-alcohol-riba-banana-bus.html

Papiamentu translation:

dopv is come across cu alcohol on banana bus

friday, 24 june 2011 21:34

diabierna night was have one situation enough fastioso again caminda personal of dopv have to owing to actua. was coriendo on the ruta of boulevard near of cas of governor owing to stop the banana bus for one control. was have one type of party on the bus. owing to resulta cu was one hacimento of year acompaña cu consumo of alcohol. neither although owing to splica ampliamente the week cu owing to happen what can is the consecuencianan, tog have person is abort. in one situation so is the tour operatornan self is core chens of lose they permission of tour bus. police diabierna night have to owing to present at careda. hour cu the personal of dopv owing to go eherce they control owing to come come across cu hendenan cu wanted owing to arise cu they. police owing to arrive y so can owing to haci the trabao. on the bus owing to come across cu icejug fill cu cerbez. the chofer of the bus will achieve one multa also for her violacion of ley here. is important for all esnan cu have tour bus as cuenta y not permiti person lever abordo cu alcohol. if do you wordo stop the chens of lose do you permission is big. esnan cu owing to come enjoy on bus self owing to descend at water y you is stay perhudica for culpa of another.

[texasmom]

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/books/confessions_of_lady_killer_lCVegl0F1wjuKqN9V3LQxJ

Confessions of a lady killer

Joran van der Sloot thinks he’ll get away with murder — again

By SUSANNAH CAHALAN

Last Updated: 11:49 PM, June 25, 2011
Posted: 11:20 PM, June 25, 2011

Portrait of a Monster
Joran van der Sloot, a Murder in Peru, and the Natalee Holloway Mystery
by Lisa Pulitzer and Cole Thompson
St. Martin’s Press

Joran van der Sloot sits in a rat-infested solitary cell in Miguel Castro Castro Prison, one of the world’s most violent prisons, awaiting a trial that is expected to begin next month. One of the most hated men in the world is finally humbled.

Or perhaps not. There is a strong possibility that he will elude justice once again. Because Peru does not have life sentences or the death penalty, van der Sloot faces, at most, 35 years. He could be out in as little as 20 months.

That’s the twisted luck that seems to follow van der Sloot, whom many American viewers believe got away with murder.

Six years ago, at age 17, he became the chief suspect in the international case of the missing 18-year-old Alabama girl Natalee Holloway. Van der Sloot was the last person to see the young cheerleader alive. Holloway’s body was never found, and he was never convicted of the crime.

Then, in a bizarre twist of fate, five years later, on the very date of Holloway’s disappearance, van der Sloot was implicated in another international homicide. In a seedy Peruvian hotel after a night of gambling, he confessed to savagely pummeling a 21-year-old student to death with his fists. Prosecutors say it was a premeditated murder to rob the young woman of her gambling winnings; van der Sloot’s defense team says it was self-defense and a crime of passion.

The people who’ve met van der Sloot describe him as a sociopath, a predator, a psychopath. Journalists Lisa Pulitzer and Cole Thompson, in their new examination of his life, have their own label: “Monster.”


AP
Joran van der Sloot is accused of killing Stephany Flores with this bloody shirt, as well as being suspected of killing Natalee Holloway.

 ::snipping2::
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/books/confessions_of_lady_killer_lCVegl0F1wjuKqN9V3LQxJ#ixzz1QLuIZCmE

[texasmom]

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE,

AND STEPHANY!

 

[pinkbanana]

 ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran::

Just one of those nights   

pb

[pinkbanana]

Joran Van der Sloot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxfQ0Hj1l_w&feature=player_embedded

Translation please!   

The girl is saying, she doesn't know Joran and he is not her sons father. Doesn't know why people think Joran is the baby's father. She goes on to say, she is in fear for her life as well as her sons...she was knocked with her son due to photographers trying to take pictures of them. She said, she was at the prison but to visit a relative.

pb

[texasmom]

Thanks pb!   

[MuffyBee]

Good morning



 ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran::

 ::justice2NJ::

 
A great way to start the day!!   

[grace-land]

Good afternoon, Mzzz Bee, monkeys and guests! 

One day closer to...  ::justice2NJ::

Are ya hearin me, Joran?  ::boxingjoran::

[grace-land]

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Van-der-Sloot-a-Monster/J6rgqUaOJEymCZm7sLBn_w.cspx

Van der Sloot a "Monster"?
Published: 7:58 am
Updated: 9:59 am

Birmingham, Ala (WIAT) The title pretty much tells the story.  Portrait of a Monster: Joran Van Der Sloot, a Murder in Peru and the Natalee Holloway Mystery.

The book by Lisa Pulitzer and Cole Thompson is due to ship July 5.  It traces Joran van der Sloot from a chubby, privileged teenager on Aruba to his cell in Peru's Castro Castro prison awaiting charges in the death of one girl and widespread belief he's responsible for the disappearance of another.

His few supporters think he's a persecuted victim.  Many others agree with the authors that he's a monster.  Prison psychiatrists in Peru call him a sociopath.  Others think he's an international serial killer.

One thing for sure, he's inalterably changed the lives of the Holloway and Flores families while grabbing notoriety and attention worldwide.

His dubious fame started the night he left an Oranjestad nightclub with 18 year old Natalee Holloway.  The Mountain Brook teen was on a graduation trip to Aruba.  She was never seen again.  Van der Sloot became infamous during the investigation.

Five years of innuendo, false confessions and changing stories.  His supporters claim he is the victim of the vindictive Holloway-Twitty family.  Much of the world thinks he got away with murder.

 ::snipping2::

Dutch film maker Paul Ruven has a movie coming out that retells the story from the eyes of a fictional reporter.

So what does the new book have to add or offer?  It's a comprehensive profile of the problems van der Sloot displayed before and after Natalee Holloway including a jaunt to Thailand when Aruba became too uncomfortable to stay in.  And there's the pervasive thread of getting away with it.

Author Pulitzer told the NY Post, “He seems to be convinced that that he will evade the system once again. He feels like he’s going to emerge from this relatively unscathed.”

 ::snipping2::

[Tamikosmom]

Please pray for my family. My grandaughter, her husband and their two boys, 12 and 5 were killed this morning in a wreck. Someone rear ended them and their car caught on fire.

 

[labubske]

Please pray for my family. My grandaughter, her husband and their two boys, 12 and 5 were killed this morning in a wreck. Someone rear ended them and their car caught on fire.

 

Just said a prayer and will continue to pray for you and your family...

[klaasend]

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1012/Binnenland/article/detail/2457132/2011/06/24/Patrick-van-der-Eem-opgepakt.dhtml

Google translation:

Some people just can't stay out of trouble.