Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #859 6/13 - 8/28/11

[texasmom]

 

http://www.facebook.com/notes/amigoe-aruba/nieuwsselectie-amigoe-editie-16-juli/231113810254939

Google translation:

"Number of attacks on tourists is not too bad '

Tourists in Aruba are still safer than other destinations in the region. The crime towards tourists is low in Aruba. Minister Otmar Oduber This emphasizes (AVP) of Labour, Tourism and Transport, in response to two recent robberies of elderly tourists that took place in quick succession.

[texasmom]

http://www.amigoe.com/english/78889-more-flights-to-the-us

‘More flights to the US’         

TUESDAY, 5 JULY 2011 12:35

ORANJESTAD — Despite the loss of four flights from American Airlines last year, the number of flight seats to the United States has increased, compared to 2010, said the Minister of Tourism, Labor and Transport Otmar Oduber (AVP) this morning. In addition to extra flight connections, he also told the press that an aircraft had been able to leave Aruba without permission at the end of last week.

Oduber says he really regrets this, especially because he had not been informed. The aircraft was grounded since June 18th after uncertainties with its registration – at the order of the border police and international aviation watchdog FAA. Nevertheless, at the end of last week, the aircraft submitted a flight plan for Venezuela and subsequently given permission for take-off even though the suspension was not lifted, according to Oduber. He has now requested the interim director of the Aviation Directorate to investigate the matter. Nothing has been heard from the aircraft since. For that matter, the Minister reports that the flight restriction for Aruba Airlines will expire tomorrow and that this company will be able to fly again if the inspection runs smoothly.

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[texasmom]

I wonder what Fabienne thinks of Joran now?  Would she still want Joran to put the same hands on her that he used to torture, beat and eventually strangle Stephany to death?  I couldn't help but notice how pretty Fabienne is in her pictures.  I wonder if it's occurred to her how ugly she would look in pictures if Joran worked her over like he most likely did Natalee and then Stephany?    

Thanks for the updates/links/pics texasmom.

It's as if you read my mind from last night MuffyBee. 

I started out wondering what she would have to say about him now, but then again I figured she would just be one more that would make excuses for him...blame the victim(s); after all she KNEW he was one of the prime suspects in Natalee's disappearance in 2006 and didn't seem to have any problem at all with him.  And considering her internship at the same hotel where they flaunted themselves for that week in 2006..., you know her utmost concern would more than likely be to protect tourism at all costs.

It's disgusting!

JMO

 

[texasmom]

http://www.facebook.com/notes/amigoe-aruba/nieuwsselectie-amigoe-editie-16-juli/231113810254939

Google translation:

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"Number of attacks on tourists is not too bad '

Tourists in Aruba are still safer than other destinations in the region. The crime towards tourists is low in Aruba. Minister Otmar Oduber This emphasizes (AVP) of Labour, Tourism and Transport, in response to two recent robberies of elderly tourists that took place in quick succession.

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[texasmom]

http://www.facebook.com/notes/amigoe-aruba/nieuwsselectie-amigoe-editie-15-juli/230673763632277

Google translation:

OM on Merryweathers case: "This is pretty unique one million fraud case

The couple Herbert and Francine Merryweather is suspected of tax evasion of around 8 million florins. The Public Prosecutor speaks of a "free association of this unique case" and has gone into appeal against the decision that the couple at liberty until the case comes. The appeal case was yesterday and the Court, while ruling next Wednesday.

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Quest polluter Bubaliplas started
There is no formal place where waste oil can be brought. This would start this week a large quantity of sewage are dumped. That said DOW officer Paul Denters. The Office of Public Works (DOW), the Environmental Inspectorate and the police are investigating who earlier this week used oil into the sewage has been dumped. This meant that the water treatment plant in Bubaliplas completely silent.
 
Less subscriptions Chamber
The first half of this year, ten fewer companies are registered with the Chamber of Commerce (CoC) than in the first six months of 2010. In addition, the Chamber concerned about the international economic developments and their impact on Aruba.
 
'Military not suspicious'
Police in Drenthe Dutch media announced yesterday that the military police a party drug found in his shipping container, is not suspicious. He called himself because the police. The man has worked for some time in Aruba.

[texasmom]

http://www.facebook.com/notes/amigoe-aruba/nieuwsselectie-amigoe-editie-13-juli/229675953732058

Google translation:

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OM again asks public for tips in case Castro

The Public Prosecutor (OM) is considering again the people asking for tips in the murder of the journalist was shot dead late last year Poentje Castro. Research continues unabated because, according to Chief Peter Blanken.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=639668719&sk=wall

From Poentje Castro's facebook wall:

   Tromp Maria

To whom this may concern:
YOU CAN RUN, BUT YOU CANNOT HIDE. NOT FOR LONG AND CERTAINLY NOT FOREVER. JUSTICE FOR POENTJE CASTRO!!
June 16 at 11:53pm

[texasmom]

http://www.facebook.com/tromp3



I wish this family could get answers too, it's so sad.   

[texasmom]

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/34263-victima-di-accidente-ayera-nochi-a-fayece.html

Papiamentu translation:

victima of accidente yesterday evening owing to fayece (die)



sunday, 17 july 2011 12:58

after cu car owing to strike they on caminda for 11:10pm, the pareha cu one rato first owing to cay for of brommer on the caminda of solito owing to stay gravemente injury. one of two car owing to happen trapa the madam also after. but at arrival at hospital, after of much work y intervencion medico, he henry enrique silva ortiz (36 aña), naci at venezuela y live at santa martha 17 (sta. cruz), owing to fayece. have to menciona cu the lady envolvi in the accidente regrettable here keto bay is in cuido intensivo at hospital but of acuerdo cu informacion policial, cu the lady is recuperando. 
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during cu the person man will owing to bay help the person muher on caminda, the pickup numera a-4665 owing to happen strike all two y injury they gravemente. apparently will have one of three vehiculo envolvi in the accidente here cu, according testigonan, cu is tell cu after of this one van will have to owing to happen on the lady y follow core without slow down. the chauffeur of the pickup owing to stay deteni for investigacion already cu the was smell alcohol.
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[Nut44x4]

ty txmom for the update on Fabienne...

[texasmom]

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/34263-victima-di-accidente-ayera-nochi-a-fayece.html

Papiamentu translation:

victima of accidente yesterday evening owing to fayece (die)



sunday, 17 july 2011 12:58

after cu car owing to strike they on caminda for 11:10pm, the pareha cu one rato first owing to cay for of brommer on the caminda of solito owing to stay gravemente injury. one of two car owing to happen trapa the madam also after. but at arrival at hospital, after of much work y intervencion medico, he henry enrique silva ortiz (36 aña), naci at venezuela y live at santa martha 17 (sta. cruz), owing to fayece. have to menciona cu the lady envolvi in the accidente regrettable here keto bay is in cuido intensivo at hospital but of acuerdo cu informacion policial, cu the lady is recuperando. 
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during cu the person man will owing to bay help the person muher on caminda, the pickup numera a-4665 owing to happen strike all two y injury they gravemente. apparently will have one of three vehiculo envolvi in the accidente here cu, according testigonan, cu is tell cu after of this one van will have to owing to happen on the lady y follow core without slow down. the chauffeur of the pickup owing to stay deteni for investigacion already cu the was smell alcohol.
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http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/34276-luis-tromp-e-chofer-burachi-den-accidente-fatal-a-keda-sera.html

Papiamentu translation:

luis tromp the chofer sober in accidente fateful owing to stay close



sunday, 17 july 2011 15:56

he luis beltran tromp of 51 year today is close pendiente investigacion of one accidente cu the self not owing to ocasiona. so self for his culpa one victima in the accidente owing to fayece. thing today owing to colga luis tromp is his coremento bao influencia of alcohol. the person here that is work at one compania of construccion was mirando futbol in one bar at beach.

night algo first cu the accidente past owing to lever his pickup for go cas. at caminda the not owing to pay tino cu have person throw on caminda y owing to happen on they. police is place axtra atencion because in the caso here do you have to is one chofer at tino 100% hour are you on caminda behind stuur. have one ley where cualkier chofer envolvi in accidente fateful y is bao influencia is go close at once. as do you have culpa or not have culpa the ley is count ; same. after of was close tanto hour for drunkenness now luis beltran tromp owing to stay close for envolvimento in one accidente fateful coriendo car bao influencia. the not owing to pay tino on caminda y kizas his drunkenness owing to stroba for her is conciente y evita his envolvimento in the accidente.

[texasmom]

ty txmom for the update on Fabienne...

You're welcome!   

[texasmom]

Couple of articles with Arien de Bie's wife, Flora.

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/34296-sra-flora-de-bie-groeneveldt-proyecto-renovacion-maris-stella-cla-pa-cuminza.html

Papiamentu translation:

sra. flora de bie- groeneveldt: proyecto renovacion maris stella cla for cuminza!

sunday, 17 july 2011 20:43

day 1 of september venidero sra. flora de bie-groeneveldt is become manager of cas maris stella, at savaneta, where the have 20 year end is dunando servicio. ela achieve visit of ministro of asunto social sra. michelle hooyboer- winklaar tocante one proyecto of renovacion, cu is cla for cuminza.



http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/34297-ministro-asunto-social-fda-lo-inverti-4-miyon-florin-pa-renovacion-cas-maris-stella.html

ministro asunto social: fda will inverti 4 miyon guilder for renovacion of maris stella

sunday, 17 july 2011 21:16

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(Several more pictures at the link)

[texasmom]

Hadn't seen it spelled like that before... 

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002452107158&sk=info



http://www.facebook.com/jan.tenhave

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Holland America Line with Ron van Vliet and 15 others
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[pinkbanana]

Thinking of Natalee and Stephany 

pb

[pinkbanana]

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pb

[texasmom]

http://zoomaruba.com/

Confession Nightclub 9 July 2011

http://fabiedushi.waarbenjij.nu/?page=message&id=3933002

Google translation:

Travelogue

Fabienne, July 9, 2011    Aruba , Sunshine Apartments 33 °   

Start your beach day with open bar!

 Dushies Hello! I take an update after the arrival of Mandy. On Friday she was finally at 19.30 (after several hours delay in the Netherlands and Curacao) at the airport of Aruba Dushi Tera! We were both still hungry, so we put the suitcase in the apartment and at Moomba! Just enjoy the chill feet in the sand and a tasty burger and fries eaten. As we walk back, of course, Angelo bump that fun with us on the Amstel Bright is. But since it was a long day for Mandy we're not too late. The next morning wake up on time and delicious breakfast yet so well together. Nice bikini and hop to the beach of course! Time to get a tan! proposed to my lovely Marriott beach boys, Javan, the most craziest of the bunch. Edison, who took us to the sun beds ready. Jose, who kept us all day and drink with Aloe. Wapa, what we were on the boat during a tube ride in Chinese, as well as between past a friend of Wapa what it friends always open bar on the catamaran and thus went out with a good rum coke, solar boat rides we do more obviously! After boat ride back on the beach arrived, they prepared a wedding. This is common in the Marriott, and is also very romantic to get married at sunset ... so mom and dad, you know what I want wedding now! hihi ... Mandy thought it was a great day and a day after Aruba already addicted! Can not be otherwise! To be a good shower and then on to South Beach. Nice out to dinner at La Scala, after at around 23.00 to Confession because there's White Party tonight! So stay tuned and I will give an update Probably tomorrow! Ate oro! Sunchi

    

[texasmom]

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE,

AND STEPHANY!

 

[Tamikosmom]

The Downward Spiral

DR. DREW
Casey Anthony Trial Over but Drama Continues
Aired July 14, 2011 - 21:00   ET

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DREW PINSKY:  ... Do you think Casey is like Joran and that she may repeat the behaviors of the past? What do you think?

BETH HOLLOWAY: What I`ve seen with Joran is, even though, they don`t feel as if they`re being held accountable or responsible for their actions, they tend to always go into a downward spiral. And when I think of Casey, I cannot help see some similarities between Casey and Joran, and that, they`re starving for attention.

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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1107/14/ddhln.01.html

Baez has known for three years that Casey was a winning lottery ticket and ... he was determined to keep that winning lottery ticket to himself until a time it could be redeemed.  While Casey was detained Baez was able to convince his client that he was her ONLY advocate and ... all other contact ... even contact with her parents ... must not happen.

However ... Casey is no longer detained and ... it is only a matter of time before a defiant Casey makes the decision to seek her own potential fortune by breaking loose from the control of her self-serving attorney and ... again embarking down deceptive roads of the past.

Something akin to Joran van der Sloot ... another pathological liar who was never taught the definition of "accountability".

IMO

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Fallout From Joran van der Sloot's 'On the Record' Interview
Wednesday, November 26, 2008

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: Coming up: You heard Joran van der Sloot in an interview done in Thailand say he sold Natalee, but eight hours later, before we had even gotten out of Thailand, an e-mail flashed across my BlackBerry. Joran said he lied to us. Did Joran lie to us?  And if so, when? When he said he sold Natalee or eight hours later, when he said it was not true? Joran's lawyer, Joe Tacopina, joins us next.

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JOE TACOPINA, JORAN'S FORMER ATTORNEY: OK. So whatever I have - I mean, an email from one of your producers, Steph Watts, you know, to Joran, talking about the Western Union transaction. Greta, look --

VAN SUSTEREN: That is how the money is transferred. There's no secret. There's no secret.

TACOPINA: You paid him for a tape that he made and wound up getting an hour interview with him. And so be it, Greta. Great TV, great ratings- -

VAN SUSTEREN: Do you have a problem with that?

TACOPINA: Yes, I do have a problem with it, Greta, because if you offered Joran $10,000 tomorrow and ask him to tell you a fifth story, he would do it.

Clearly, he's a sick kid. Clearly, I have nothing to say in defense of his actions, Greta. OK?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,457715,00.html

s.t.

[Tamikosmom]

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Casey Anthony could be afforded millions for book/movie deals ... exclusive interviews but ... it will all be for naught.

Prior to fleeing Aruba for Peru ... Joran van der Sloot had extorted $25,000 from Natalee Holloway's mother.  While on the run in Chile following the murder of Stephany Flores  .. Joran emailed a friend requesting funds that would allow him to purchase a plane ticket back to Aruba/Holland.

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"A fool and his money are soon parted"
Thomas Tusser

s.t.

[Tamikosmom]

van der Sloot broke and desperate when he met Flores
Published: 5/29 1:16 pm
Updated: 5/31 8:49 am

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (WIAT) - Joran Van der Sloot was broke and desperate in a hotel room he couldn’t pay for. His luck had run out at a nearby casino. And then he met a young woman who had just cashed in.

Van der Sloot spent almost an hour on the phone with a Dutch friend on May 28, 2010….two days before he met and killed Stephany Flores.

Van der Sloot told his friend he was broke and couldn’t pay his hotel tab at Lima’s TAC hotel where he had been for five days playing in a poker tournament. The call to Stan Pluijmen was later listened to by Dutch police.

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The call ended with van der Sloot asking Pluijmen to send him money saying his own mother and brother had turned him down saying all he’d do with it was play and lose at poker.

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http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/van-der-Sloot-broke-and-desperate-when-he-met/iRvIZFLM0ESRECHhQp3ERA.cspx