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Topic: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #859 6/13 - 8/28/11 (Read 557279 times)
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Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #859 6/13 -
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July 19, 2011, 10:52:08 PM »
Quote from: texasmom on July 19, 2011, 10:51:24 PM
Quote from: grace-land on July 19, 2011, 03:10:27 PM
http://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/people/article/48041-authors-on-the-air-july-19-2011-daniel-silva-cole-thomson-adam-ross.html
Authors on the Air July 19, 2011: Daniel Silva,
Cole Thomson
, Adam Ross
Jul 19, 2011
::snipping2::
Cole Thomson, author of Portrait of a Monster: Joran van der Sloot, a Murder in Peru, and the Natalee Holloway Mystery (St. Martin's Press, 978-0312359218),
will appear on Joy Behar
.
::snipping2::
I've been watching...no Cole Thompson yet...Nancy Grace talking about
the
Casey Anthony, Jesse Grund and now a couple talking about "praying the gay away". I'm about to give up!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #859 6/13 -
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Quote from: texasmom on July 19, 2011, 10:52:08 PM
Quote from: texasmom on July 19, 2011, 10:51:24 PM
Quote from: grace-land on July 19, 2011, 03:10:27 PM
http://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/people/article/48041-authors-on-the-air-july-19-2011-daniel-silva-cole-thomson-adam-ross.html
Authors on the Air July 19, 2011: Daniel Silva,
Cole Thomson
, Adam Ross
Jul 19, 2011
::snipping2::
Cole Thomson, author of Portrait of a Monster: Joran van der Sloot, a Murder in Peru, and the Natalee Holloway Mystery (St. Martin's Press, 978-0312359218),
will appear on Joy Behar
.
::snipping2::
I've been watching...no Cole Thompson yet...Nancy Grace talking about
the
Casey Anthony, Jesse Grund and now a couple talking about "praying the gay away". I'm about to give up!
edit
I was watching, too--well, bits and pieces of it; my family doesn't like Joy. They were watching the FIFA soccer game, and I had to fight them for the TV remote! (My team lost--Peru.
) I'll check again to see when they have rescheduled them.
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Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #859 6/13 -
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Quote from: texasmom on July 15, 2011, 09:04:41 PM
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #859 6/13 -
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Reply #403 on:
July 20, 2011, 01:47:54 AM »
Quote from: grace-land on July 19, 2011, 11:34:27 PM
Quote from: texasmom on July 19, 2011, 10:52:08 PM
Quote from: texasmom on July 19, 2011, 10:51:24 PM
Quote from: grace-land on July 19, 2011, 03:10:27 PM
http://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/people/article/48041-authors-on-the-air-july-19-2011-daniel-silva-cole-thomson-adam-ross.html
Authors on the Air July 19, 2011: Daniel Silva,
Cole Thomson
, Adam Ross
Jul 19, 2011
::snipping2::
Cole Thomson, author of Portrait of a Monster: Joran van der Sloot, a Murder in Peru, and the Natalee Holloway Mystery (St. Martin's Press, 978-0312359218),
will appear on Joy Behar
.
::snipping2::
I've been watching...no Cole Thompson yet...Nancy Grace talking about
the
Casey Anthony, Jesse Grund and now a couple talking about "praying the gay away". I'm about to give up!
edit
I was watching, too--well, bits and pieces of it; my family doesn't like Joy. They were watching the FIFA soccer game, and I had to fight them for the TV remote! (My team lost--Peru.
) I'll check again to see when they have rescheduled them.
I can feel your pain...my son was watching something else and I convinced him to let me watch JUST until that part was over (I can't remember exactly what the comment was that he made about Joy but it wasn't complimentary) ...it wasn't easy but he agreed.
Kept waiting for the segment that never happened.
Oh well...
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #859 6/13 -
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Justice for Natalee,
and Stephany!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #859 6/13 -
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on July 20, 2011, 03:08:07 PM
WAS THE WRITING ON THE WALL?
The injustices against the persons of Caylee Anthony and Natalee Holloway did not happen out of vacuum. Was the writing on the wall? Did the parents of the former suspects abet the tragic outcomes in both cases?
+++++++
The Caylee Anthony Case
TAPED TRANSCRIPT OF LEE ANTHONY
INTERVIEW CONDUCTED BY CORPORAL EDWARDS
CASE NUMBER – 08-074777
JULY 29, 2008
LA: So every time my mother would go outside I’d try to ask something to my sister that maybe she wouldn’t feel comfortable saying in front of my mom. You know, asking what’s, you know, “What’s going on? You know what’s the deal?” And she still maintained everything, but she would say, uhm, that’s when she opened up to me and said, uhm, uhm, “Mom has uhm, thrown it in my face many times before that I’m an unfit mother and you know, maybe she’s right and maybe I am.” She offered up to me for the first time that uhm, my mother has referred, said to my sister that uhm, even though Caylee’s been the best thing and the best mistake that she was indeed a mistake. That she was Casey’s mistake. Uhm…
EE: Now Casey’s telling you that Mom said this to her?
LA: To Casey, yes.
<snipped>
LA: Yes. She did uh, when it was uhm, when I kept saying, “Well I don’t get it. What’s in it for you? Why are you letting, you know, the police get involved with this? The, this seems, this doesn’t make any sense to me.” She’s like, “Well maybe this should have been done a long time ago. I’ve stolen money from Mom. I’ve been a bad daughter.” Uhm, “You know I’ve been,” she said, “I’ve stolen money from you. You know I’ve untrustworthy, you know.” And she goes, “And maybe I have been a, a, a, you know, a bad, a mother, a daughter and sister.” And she said, uhm, “You know so this should have been done along time ago.”
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http://www.thehinkymeter.com/Library/CMA/interviews/lanthony072908.pdf
http://humbleopinion.net76.net/interviews/lee%20anthony.pdf
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092308leeanthony/indexGallery.htm
Casey Anthony trial: George Anthony's suicide note
7:04 p.m. CDT, June 30, 2011
<snipped>
I blame myself for her being gone! You (Cindy) know for months, as a matter of fact for a year or so I brought stuff up, only to be told not to be negative.
<snipped>
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/os-casey-anthony-george-anthony-suicd20110630,0,6804301.story
TAPED TRANSCRIPT OF JESSE AARON GRUND
INTERVIEW CONDUCTED BY CORPORAL MELICH
CASE NUMBER - 08-69208
SEPTEMBER 9, 2008
<snipped>
JG: Her dad pulled me aside and said, "Look, I don't know what's going on between the two of you, but you're a really good guy Jesse and you've got a lot going for you. And you treat her really well and you treat my granddaughter extremely well. But you don't need to be around Casey because she has some problems that we need to get her help for."
<snipped>
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedfiles/Grund,%20Jesse.03.090808.pdf
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/Library/CMA/interviews/jgrund072308.pdf
http://humbleopinion.net76.net/interviews/jesse%20grund%20july%2023.pdf
Cindy Anthony - Casey Anthony's Mother
Casey Anthony's MySpace Account
July 4, 2008
Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught
"She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don't know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother's love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?"
The Natalee Holloway Case
January 16, 2006
Summons and Complaint
Elizabeth Ann Twitty and Dave Edward Holloway
vs. Joran van der Sloot and Paulus van der Sloot
<snipped>
11. Joran van der Sloot is not stranger to sexual assault on woment.
12. On at least three occasions prior to May, 2005, young Aruban women alleged that they were victims of "date rape" perpetrated by Joran and his accomplices.
13. Using Ecstasy as his "date rape" drug of choice, Joran prowled the island, seeking to prey on young female tourists, especially blondes.
14 Joran’s proclivities, at a young age, were known to both of his parents, Paulus Van der Sloot and wife, Anita.
15. As recently as May 2005, Joran was receiving psychological counselling for his problems.
<snipped>
81. Defendant Paulus van der Sloot knew his minor child, Joran van der Sloot, had a long history of sexual assaults on young women.
<snipped>
http://news.findlaw.com/cnn/docs/hway/hwayvds21606cmp5.html
The Abrams Report' for February 24
updated 2/27/2006 10:45:52 AM ET
BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER: There were two—I know of two young girls. One was 16 and one was 14 years of age, and it was difficult for these girls to do, but they did come forward. They had to hire an attorney. They gave statements to the police. You know, these were real girls that were coming forward. We don't know what happened or what transpired, why that never went any further than it did. We don't know if it had something to do with—I was told that Dennis Jacobs (ph) had strongly—had talked to the girls and was really putting the pressure on them to retract this, so you know, we just don't know how far that some individuals in that police department were going to go to put a stop to those girls coming forward. But they were real girls and they had been assaulted by Joran under the influence of drugs.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11590518/
Loving Natalee
A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway
Page 147: The mission of meeting people and handing out the Ecclesiastes prayer cards and the beautiful colourful bracelets gives me a reason to get up and keep going. FOX anchor Greta Van Susteren wants to come along, as many of the network reps have done over the past few weeks. We’re going to the other end of the island today, near the van der Sloot neighbourhood, to ask for information. And help.
As I reach to put a prayer card into the van der Sloot mailbox, I see someone on the side of the house and call out, “Anybody home? Hello! You’ve go company! Knock, knock! Anybody home?”
A man is behind the shrubs against the house. “I see you there in the bushes.” He freezes. “I’m Natalee’s mom. I just want to give you a prayer card.”
Paulus van der Sloot has to be coaxed out of the bushes like a dog in trouble. He appears from behind the shrubs and comes to the gate. I hand him one of Natalee’s prayer cards over the fence.
Surprisingly, he says, “Come in, please. Stop the cameras, okay? Stop the cameras.”
Greta and I lock eyes for a moment, and with no hint of hesitation on her part we go inside. Through the front door we make our way across the tile floor, passing through a nicely decorated living room, under an archway, to an enclosed back-porch area. We step down to a table and chairs. Paulus’s wife, Joran’s mother Anita, is here. There’s no glass in the multiple window openings in this room, just wooden slats. And the air moves comfortably through the area. The wind blows hard all the time in Aruba, and it’s breezy in here, well ventilated. Paulus sits closest to the air flow. I sit across from him, in close proximity. Anita is on my left. Greta is next to Paulus, her body turned toward him.
Anita tells us all about Joran and what a good boy he is. How smart he is. I let her go on and on, as this gives me time to listen, look, assess. And as she continues, she begins to share with us what a difficult time they have had with him recently. How he exhibits oppositional defiance and is disrespectful to his mother. How they are beginning to lose control of him as he sneaks out at night and comes and goes as he pleases. After about thirty minutes she concludes by telling us Joran is seeing a psychologist for his defiant behaviour.
s.t.
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #859 6/13 -
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Continued:
WAS THE WRITING ON THE WALL
The Natalee Holloway Case
Disappearance
Missing White Female
January 2, 2006
Page 9: Moreover, Dompig says, this summer F.B.I. profilers completed a detailed psychological evaluation. "He struck us, and the F.B.I., as a guy who can make you believe he's God's gift to mothers-in-law," Dompig says. "But if you look at his actions, he's anything but. The F.B.I. profiled him as a person who never has been corrected by his parents. He's the boss of what happens in that house. He's the boss in the family. He is allowed to do anything.. If a person like that is in a position where a person says, 'No,' well, that person may change completely. Maybe he blew a fuse when she wouldn't have sex with him, and something happened."
http://www.vanityfair.com/fame/features/2006/01/natalee200601?currentPage=9
Jossy Mansur - Editor of Aruban Publication "Dairio".
The Dana Pletzer Show
July 23, 2007
PLETZER: One thing that makes my listeners scratch their heads so to speak and wonder, myself included and we'll talk about it again, is the fact of the underage drinking and gambling that had been going on admittedly by young van der Sloot. Was there ever any discussion or has there ever been any discussion at least of filing some charges as far as that goes?
MANSUR: No, there hasn't been any of that. The authorities have just (inaudible) it aside, they haven't paid any attention to it then and they're not paying any attention to it now and over the past 26 months. I haven't seen anything in the direction of trying to make some kind of statement that this is not (inaudiable) at least make some sort of a statement that this is not (inaubible) because it is a known fact that as an underage he wasn't supposed to be in the casino, much less in the company of his father. He was there, there are video tapes to prove that and still the authorities haven't done anything with regard to that specific case.
http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/2007/07/23/the-dana-pretzer-show-monday-july-23rd-2007-special-guests-larry-sinclair-jossy-mansur-ladonna-meredith-attorney-jay-paul-deratany/
'Scarborough Country'
July 19, 2005
DAVE HOLLOWAY, FATHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: The last word was, you got have to understand, this is my son, and I (Paulus) will do anything for my son. And with that, you know, my confidence level was not very high with him.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8627625/
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/34402-na-e-international-school-of-aruba-aby-sneek-smith-a-ricibi-e-premio-di-headmasters-pa-excelencia-academico-.html
Papiamentu translation:
at the international school or aruba aby sneek-smith owing to ricibi the premium of headmaster’s for excelencia academico
wednesday, 20 july 2011 17:02
aby sneek-smith recientemente owing to gradua of the international school or aruba y owing to wordo reconoci for excelencia academico in ap english, chemistry y calculus, haciendo so cu past owing to ricibi the premium general of headmasters for excelencia academico, for her class of 2011.
while cu past owing to study at scol aby was one acolyte of the national honor society y owing to serve because; the chairman of his class at 2010. the is one of the some graduadonan of hoist cu owing to cuminsa they educacion at the scol for of kleuterschool end, y owing to completa his carera academico without interumpcion, graduando because; one senior.
aby is preparando for study at the florida institute or technology at melbourne florida, on one beca academico of 50%.
the will is studiando ingenieria chemico cu one enfoke on energy renovabel, for so the can cuminsa one carera cu one of the companianan chemico big, as dow y/of dupont, where the have planea for serve because; one stagiaire during his of two semester.
aby can being see on the portret is ricibi his certificado of excelencia academico, acompaña for first minister of aruba, mike eman, that was the orador principal of the night, y also was encarga cu the honor of reconoce the studiantenan estelar, y the agent of the scol, in the hyatt regency ballroom, during the celebracion of graduacion at end of the year escolar.
aby’s his
padrastro
rob smith of the radisson aruba resort casino & spa y his wife diana, aby his mother y three brother women, is proud of aby his logronan y his motivacion for sobresali.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/spanish/padrastro
padrastro masculine noun
Translation of PADRASTRO
1
: stepfather
2
: hangnail
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #859 6/13 -
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http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/34379-informacion-persistente-ta-mustra-cu-balanan-usa-den-tiramento-na-pavia-parce-ta-similar-na-esnan-cu-a-mata-poentje-castro.html
Papiamentu translation:
is investigando same ball employ in caso of blauw owing to employ cu poentje
tuesday, 19 july 2011 22:01
in interview cu peter blanken owing to puntre on the caso of poentje castro. owing to ask about the fiscal parent where the caso here is now here? mr peter blanken fiscal parent owing to show cu have to atende cu the caso here cu is being considera uno much earnest. while cu not have indicacion on the investigacion not can haci mucho. they have to believe in the caso for follow in one direccion.
owing to ask about fiscal parent peter blanken if they owing to succeed achieve algo on the material cu owing to go the netherlands among another the blackberry. in the contenido was dificil for comenta mirando cu esey can stroba the investigacion. only is confirma cu the blackberry of poentje castro owing to go the netherlands. in the combersacion cu fiscal parent owing to mustre cu have informacion persistente cu
the balanan throw on the victima of blauw at pavia owing to being send the netherlands. the informacion also cu owing to enter was cu the balanan here seems owing to being compara cu the balanan using on poentje castro. apparently this is same type of balanan.
owing to ask about mr peter blanken if this can is berdad? according the fiscal parent the do not confirma but niether desmenti esaki… the investigacion is andando y now dificilmente can comenta for evita cualkier speculacion…e is respeta prensa his trabao but now here is dificil for comenta. at bienestar of the caso is preferable for evita cierto comentarionan. the fiscal parent owing to achieve the question here because; surprise y pesey past not owing to achieve chens of prepara his contesta. the form cu fiscal owing to contesta without desmenti is indica cu the fountain cu owing to give we the informacion here is good at height of thing is pasando.
for of much time was being talk cu poentje castro not can owing to being kill for motibo of reglamento of cuenta. more bien is believe cu the matamento here is one crimen pasional.
esnan cu know have contacto cu blauw seems owing to comenta cu
blauw is much interesa on the situation of chaldira. the wanted know if chaldira is talk.
the cosnan here can is one indicacion cu recherché have more caminda for march cu not only the tiramento on the casa of blauw.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on July 20, 2011, 08:51:33 PM
A VORTEX OF LIES
DR. DREW
Beth Holloway: The Casey, Joran Lies
Aired June 23, 2011 - 21:00:00
<snipped?
PINSKY: You believe that Van Der Sloot and Casey Anthony have similar modus operandi. Tell us about that.
BETH HOLLOWAY: I do. Of course, both of them had the litany of lies -- you know, here, from both of them. Something that I think is even more so striking is this mode of operation from the two. From Joran come started out the same way. Oh, I left her at the beach. She`s fine. No involvement. She`s alive, OK? Casey started out the same way, left her with the nanny, she`s fine.
Then as things began to get a little warmer and more uncomfortable, then he changed it to, well, it was an accident, something tragic happened, but, you know, it was an accident. Same thing kind of with Casey. Well, it was an accident. Now, they`ve changed them from an alive Natalee and Caylee to a deceased Natalee and Caylee.
PINSKY: Would he talk about her in the present tense, the past tense and flip back and forth the way Casey does?
HOLLOWAY: Not so much as that, but it`s their whole mode of operation of how they start them out alive.
PINSKY: Yes.
HOLLOWAY: And then, now, they both tend to be leading towards now they`ve got them both deceased
<snipped>
HOLLOWAY: Once the lies begin, I call it a vortex of lies.
PINSKY: Yes.
HOLLOWAY:
And then, if anybody gets close to the vortex, they get sucked in or the perpetrators begin to throw people into the vortex. Whether it`s their
parents
, whether it`s --
<snipped>
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1106/23/ddhln.01.html
The Natalee Holloway Case
THE SELLING OF NATALEE
Joran van der Sloot Goes 'On the Record' with New Natalee Holloway Story
Tuesday, November 25, 2008
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GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: Joran contacted us, claiming he wanted to tell us the truth about what happened that night. He produced as evidence three telephone conversations saved on a digital chip. Joran claims the recordings are conversations between
his father
and him. If authentic, the recording suggest that Joran told his father what happened to Natalee.
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,457144,00.html
Fallout From Joran van der Sloot's 'On the Record' Interview
Wednesday, November 26, 2008
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GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, FOX NEWS HOST: You heard Joran van der Sloot say on tape that he sold Natalee Holloway and that he told
his father
about it. Now, according to Joran, there is a recording of Joran and
his father
talking about it. Now, we have that recording. You will hear that recording shortly.
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,457715,00.html
Fallout From Joran van der Sloot's 'On the Record' Interview
Wednesday, November 26, 2008
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GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: Coming up: You heard Joran van der Sloot in an interview done in Thailand say he sold Natalee, but eight hours later, before we had even gotten out of Thailand, an e-mail flashed across my BlackBerry. Joran said he lied to us.
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,457715,00.html
THE EXTORTION OF BETH HOLLOWAY
Deadly Connection?
NBC News
updated 6/11/2010 9:03:58 PM ET
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But Kelly says he played along and van der Sloot told him he hid the body on the beach with the help of
his father
who, the following day, buried the body.
CHRIS HANSEN: He implicated
his own father
in the disposal of the body?
JOHN KELLY: Along with himself, yeah
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37650865/ns/dateline_nbc-crime_reports/
Holloway attorney details van der Sloot sting
updated 6/11/2010 12:58:39 PM ET
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Van der Sloot himself told Kelly in an e-mail he apparently sent from Peru a week after the meeting that he had lied.
"He indicated it was all a hoax, which is sort of his M.O. with everybody - get the money, then say it's a hoax and avoid criminal prosecution," Kelly said.
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http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/37635627
THE ABOVE GROUND TOMB
Natalee Holloway: Did Joran Van Der Sloot Bury Her Alive?
April 15, 2011 04:35 PM EDT
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Joran bragged that he paid off a funeral home worker to get her body inside another man's coffin for burial. He also revealed that the body is in an above the ground tomb and that
his father
who was an Aruban attorney did, indeed aid him in concealing the body, as so many had suspected.
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http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474979229142
The Caylee Anthony Case
THE ACCIDENTAL DROWNING
Casey Murder Trial Brings Tears, Blame And Shame
Posted: 5:18 am EDT May 24, 2011
Updated: 7:29 pm EDT May 24, 2011
Casey cried throughout the opening statements from both the prosecution and the defense on Tuesday. However, Casey was most emotional after lunch when her attorney, Jose Baez, stated to the jurors that Caylee Anthony was never missing, but drowned in her family's pool.
"How in the world can a mother wait 30 days to report a child missing? It's insane. Something's just not right about that. The answer is relatively simple. She never was missing. Caylee Anthony died on June 16, 2008, when she drowned in her family's swimming pool," Baez stated.
Baez claimed that
George Anthony
said to Casey after finding Caylee allegedly dead in the pool, "Look what you've done! You're mother will never forgive you! And you will go to jail for child neglect for the rest of your freaking life!".
Casey's attorney said that
George
covered up Caylee's accidental death.
Baez also stated, "On June 16, 2008, after Caylee died, Casey did what she's been doing all her life, or most of it, hiding her pain. She went back to that deep, dark place called denial to pretend as if nothing was wrong."
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http://www.wftv.com/news/28001858/detail.html
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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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http://amigoe.com/english/79514-construction-of-prefab-classes-continues-
‘Construction of prefab classes continues’
TUESDAY, 19 JULY 2011 13:36
ORANJESTAD — Despite considerable criticism and questions from the own party,
the project worth 16.8 million florins for the hire purchase of modular classrooms
will continue. At least, that’s what Minister Arthur Dowers (AVP) of Education and Justice said this morning during a press conference.
“It is a good project”, he said after
this newspaper reported that the project should have been a public contract because of the high amount involved.
By our reporter
Alex Laclé
However, the Minister is of the opinion that the choice for allocation instead of calling for tenders, lies within the possibilities of the Minister ‘if it is in the interest of Aruba’. According to Dowers, there is also a certain haste with this project because ‘the longer one waits the less is saved this year’. Moreover, after asking round, there supposedly was one other company, which could have supplied this kind of modular construction. “However, we didn’t hear from this company to this day,” says the Minister. He further states this is not the only project. Renovation projects for example in Paradera and St. Cruz are realized without having called for tenders, he says, to eliminate ‘accusations of corruption’. Moreover, Dowers does not preclude the government will use that same modular construction more often in the future for new schools or extra classrooms at school that have reached their maximum capacity.
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The Minister rejects the criticism from opposition party MEP on JEM Industrial Services having received the contract. He says he can easily demonstrate that the previous government had concluded contracts with this company in the past for the rent of trailers serving as classroom. He does not follow up on possible tax arrears of the owner of this company. Dowers says he is not aware of this and if it were true then it’s only favorable because this owner could subsequently pay his tax.
Government contracting has been an issue for years. Minister of Finance, Mike de Meza (AVP) recently admitted this still requires regulation – especially procedures for the contracting rules – article 26 of the Government Accounts Act that regulated the financial management and control of the government. This article stipulates when one may deviate from a public and private contract. A study group of the government is now to improve this.
http://www.arubachamber.com/templates/kvk/view_extract.php?k=34198
Only valid if accordingly signed by the Aruba Chamber of Commerce & Industry - J.E. Irausquin Blvd. 10, Oranjestad, Aruba.
Appearing in the Trade Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 16 MARCH 2005 under serial number 33144.0 is the company with the tradename:
JEM INDUSTRIAL SERVICES N.V.
Business address SASAKIWEG Z/N, ORANJESTAD WEST
Legal form LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY
Name of the company JEM INDUSTRIAL SERVICES N.V.
Statutory seat ARUBA
Date of incorporation 14 MARCH 2005
Authorized capital ARUBAN FLORINS 50,000.00
Issued capital ARUBAN FLORINS 10,000.00
Paid up capital ARUBAN FLORINS 10,000.00
Fiscal year 01 JANUARY thru 31 DECEMBER
DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD:
MANSUR, JOSSY ELIE;
Born in VENEZUELA, PUERTO CABELLO on 22 JUNE 1962
Nationality DUTCH
Position MANAGING DIRECTOR
Effective 14 MARCH 2005
Authority FULL
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY
HET SCHOONMAKEN VAN VERBLIJFPLAATSEN VAN WERKNEMERS VAN DE OLIERAFFINADERIJ ALSMEDE HET LEVEREN VAN MAALTIJDEN AAN DEZE.
Google Dutch translation:
CLEANING WORKERS whereabouts of the oil refinery AND PROVIDE MEALS TO THIS.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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This one makes more sense to me in terms of the work being done. JMO
http://www.arubachamber.com/templates/kvk/view_extract.php?k=30891
Only valid if accordingly signed by the Chamber of Commerce & Industry Aruba - JE Irausquin Blvd. 10, Oranjestad, Aruba.
Appearing in the Trade Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 04 March 2003 underscores serialNumber 30088.0 is the company joined with the name:
JEM HOLDING NV
Business address SASAKIWEG S / N, WEST ORANGE TOWN
Legal form LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY
Name of the company JEM HOLDING NV
Statutory seat ARUBA
Date of incorporation 27 FEBRUARY 2003
Last amendment in the articles 14 MARCH 2005
Authorized capital Aruban Florine 50,000.00
Issued capital Aruban Florine 10,000.00
Paid up capital Aruban Florine 10,000.00
Fiscal year 01 JANUARY 31 DECEMBER thru
DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD:
Mansur, Jossy ELIE;
Born in VENEZUELA, Puerto Cabello on 22 JUNE 1962
Nationality DUTCH
Position MANAGING DIRECTOR
Effective 27 FEBRUARY 2003
Authority FULL
OBJECTIVE (S) OF THE COMPANY
- THE PRACTICE OF THE CONSTRUCTION IN THE FIELD OF CIVIL AND UTILITY, INCLUDING THE PERFORMANCE OR ANY SUBCONTRACTORS DOING OR PERFORMANCE OF BUILDINGS VRBOUWINGSWERKZAAMHEDEN (RENOVATION WORK), OR TO REPAIR OR MAINTENANCE - THE EXERCISE OF THE BUILDING AND CONSTRUCKTIEBEDRIJF (CONSTRUCTION COMPANY), INCLUDING INCLUDING METAL AND WELDING, PLUMBING, MASONRY AND CARPENTRY, AND ELECTRICAL AND ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT;
- PROVISION OF CONSTRUCTION AND TECHNICAL RELATED ADVICE AND MONITORING KEEPING IN CARRYING OUT OF THE ABOVE MENTIONED WORKS - CARRY OUT A "CATERING COMPANY ", INCLUDING THE PREPARATION, SALE AND DELIVERY OF FOOD AND BEVERAGES - TRADE IN GOODS AND ITEMS NEEDED FOR THE (DO) PERFORMING AFOREMENTIONED ACTIVITIES - HE RENTAL AND HIRING OF MACHINERY, TOOLS AND HEAVY EQUIPMENT REQUIRED ON PERFORMANCE OF ABOVE WORK - SUPPLY OF SERVICES AND SERVICES FOR PUTTING ON STAFF.
*The descriptions in parenthesis are the result of further translation attempts.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
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http://amigoe.com/english/79464-companies-where-are-we-to-dump-our-waste-oil
Companies: ‘Where are we to dump our waste oil?’
MONDAY, 18 JULY 2011 12:37
ORANJESTAD — Garages and other companies have no place to dump their waste oil now. Since the re-opening of the oil refinery, Valero stopped recycling waste oil. Neither can one dump the oil at refuse dump Parkietenbos although Serlimar, manager of this refuse dump, is currently discussing the possibility of introducing this service. Some companies are forced to either keep the oil on their terrain or dump the oil in the nature or in the sewer.
By our reporter
Merlijn van Lelyveld
Last week, the Bubali water purification plant came to a complete standstill after some waste engine oil was dumped in the sewerage the day before.
This is still a penal act even if there are no official dump locations, says spokesperson of the Public Prosecutor, Ann Angela. “It remains against the law to dump dangerous substances in the environment.” The investigation into who is responsible for illegal dumping of oil is still in progress.
Valero spokesperson Bill Day states the refinery no longer recycles the oil since the re-opening beginning last year. DOW-official Paul Denters indicated earlier that a possible proposal is afoot. Valero could namely be designated as the permanent location for the waste engine oil. Day indicates he cannot comment on this just yet. “We must first view the proposal.” There is no other location to bring the oil since Valero stopped the recycling. Rozie Boekhoudt of Mourik Carribean confirms this. She previously collected waste oil at various companies, bringing it to the refinery until the latter closed their doors. Boekhoudt states that although she currently has well over twenty companies on a waiting list, she is still asked to collect the oil. However, the company is waiting for the green light on a location. Whether Parkietenbos will actually start the recycle service is still unclear. The possibilities are being discussed now. Nathalie Wolff, spokesperson of Serlimar, states she expects the company to provide this service.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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http://amigoe.com/aruba/79613-autodieven-aangehouden
Google translation:
Car thieves arrested
WEDNESDAY, JULY 20, 2011 9:17 P.M.
ORANGE CITY - The police yesterday morning about eight two persons were arrested suspected of car theft.
The men were traced after police on patrol in northern Semeleerstraat saw a car was stolen. This was pursued, but they lost sight of. Moments later came a report in which the stolen vehicle would be at Papaya 7. Here the police were behind the garden of the house found six cars. All these cars were stolen between January this year and yesterday. The police had every car a theft report. The cars are completely emptied. The owner of the property declared to know nothing of what is going on behind the garden.
One of the men was on January 2 this year released from correction Institute Aruba (KIA). Until now allow at least eight car thefts to his credit, but the police does not exclude that there are more.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=8006&offId=0&offDate=2011-7
Papiamentu translation:
5 day happen | fecha: 15/07/2011 | horario: 19:04
oficialnan of the atraco team of police owing to give lectura anti-atraco at comerciantenan chinese
recientemente oficialnan of police encarga cu investigacionnan relaciona cu atraco arm owing to as one lectura at one are enough big of comerciantenan of establecimientonan chinese. more of 50 person owing to asisti at the lectura organisa for her club chinese at aruba. esnan present owing to achieve much informacion con for they actua during one atraco y what for haci hour this sosode at one or another of they establecimientonan. owing to being splica con atracadornan is think y actua besides owing to give much tips at the publico for as cuenta cu cosnan relevante during atraco. at end the comerciantenan owing to stay much contento y owing to ripara cu they have to is mihor prepara for her possible next atraco.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
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Quote from: texasmom on July 20, 2011, 02:41:06 AM
Justice for Natalee,
and Stephany!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Quote from: texasmom on July 21, 2011, 01:14:49 AM
http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=8006&offId=0&offDate=2011-7
Papiamentu translation:
5 day happen | fecha: 15/07/2011 | horario: 19:04
oficialnan of the atraco team of police owing to give lectura anti-atraco at comerciantenan chinese
recientemente oficialnan of police encarga cu investigacionnan relaciona cu atraco arm owing to as one lectura at one are enough big of comerciantenan of establecimientonan chinese. more of 50 person owing to asisti at the lectura organisa for her club chinese at aruba. esnan present owing to achieve much informacion con for they actua during one atraco y what for haci hour this sosode at one or another of they establecimientonan. owing to being splica con atracadornan is think y actua besides owing to give much tips at the publico for as cuenta cu cosnan relevante during atraco. at end the comerciantenan owing to stay much contento y owing to ripara cu they have to is mihor prepara for her possible next atraco.
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