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« Reply #800 on: August 17, 2011, 06:25:21 PM »

Wow what a coincidence about Ramses.  What is it with all the gay/bi people in Aruba (not that there's anything wrong with it)  Just find the ratios appear to be fairly high. 
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« Reply #801 on: August 17, 2011, 07:18:39 PM »

Video of Joran in prison.  Put on a little weight? 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/17/joran-van-der-sloot-video-_n_929810.html

Joran Van Der Sloot, Natalee Holloway Murder Suspect, Seen In Prison Video As Flores Family Fears 2012 Release
First Posted: 8/17/11 04:59 PM ET Updated: 8/17/11 04:59 PM ET

With his trial still looming, Dutch murder suspect Joran van der Sloot is making a virtual appearance by way of a video released from Peru's Castro Castro Prison.

The 24-year-old van der Sloot -- who is the prime suspect in the May 2010 murder of 21-year-old Peruvian student Stephany Flores -- is seen talking with a court official before leaving the high security zone of the prison.

The video comes on the heels of an announcement from a Peruvian lawyer who says the Dutch citizen could be freed by next year.

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« Reply #802 on: August 17, 2011, 07:25:17 PM »

He's fat and ugly

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« Reply #803 on: August 17, 2011, 10:52:24 PM »

Wow what a coincidence about Ramses.  What is it with all the gay/bi people in Aruba (not that there's anything wrong with it)  Just find the ratios appear to be fairly high. 

I agree.   
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #804 on: August 17, 2011, 11:22:02 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cheDnkHkHE

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/3cheDnkHkHE?version=3&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;rel=0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/3cheDnkHkHE?version=3&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;rel=0</a>
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #805 on: August 17, 2011, 11:49:10 PM »

One whole page of the today's edition of Awe Mainta newspaper was blacked out?



http://www.awemainta.com/noticia/?p=2525

Pages 11 (blacked out) and 12

 
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #806 on: August 18, 2011, 12:01:46 AM »

Woman's family wants speedy trial for van der Sloot
By the CNN Wire Staff
August 17, 2011 -- Updated 2200 GMT (0600 HKT


(CNN) -- The family of a slain Peruvian woman is urging prosecutors to file their case against murder suspect Joran van der Sloot, warning that he may be released by December unless the case goes ahead.

"We are worried because Peruvian law says that if a suspect's trial doesn't begin within 18 months after his arrest, authorities are obligated to set the suspect free," Ricardo Flores, the dead woman's father, told CNN.

Van der Sloot faces charges in the May 2010 killing of Stephany Flores, who was found dead in his Lima hotel room. Police say van der Sloot took money and bank cards from her wallet and fled to Chile, where he was arrested a few days later.

Investigators delivered their case file to prosecutors in June for a decision on charges. Ricardo Flores said the prosecutor in the case, Miriam Riveros Castellares, is "not moving with the speed that a case of this magnitude merits."

"We're asking that either the prosecutor file charges or that authorities remove her from this case and name somebody else," he said.

There was no immediate response to the family's concerns from the prosecutor's office.

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http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/08/17/peru.van.der.sloot/


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« Reply #807 on: August 18, 2011, 12:23:36 AM »

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/08/17/peru.van.der.sloot/
Woman's family wants speedy trial for van der Sloot
By the CNN Wire Staff
August 17, 2011 -- Updated 2200 GMT (0600 HKT)

(CNN) -- The family of a slain Peruvian woman is urging prosecutors to file their case against murder suspect Joran van der Sloot, warning that he may be released by December unless the case goes ahead.

"We are worried because Peruvian law says that if a suspect's trial doesn't begin within 18 months after his arrest, authorities are obligated to set the suspect free," Ricardo Flores, the dead woman's father, told CNN.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #808 on: August 18, 2011, 12:25:26 AM »


Missing in Aruba: Investigators Focus on Insurance Policy
Aug. 17, 2011


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Surveillance video from local businesses place Giordano and Gardner at the Rum Reef Bar & Grill in the Baby Beach area of the island before Gardner went missing, a law enforcement source told ABC News. Restaurant staff said that Gardner seemed woozy while the two ate; Giordano later told police they'd been drinking vodka at the Marriott before dining, and that she'd taken sleeping pills earlier in the day, the source said.

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Video:
http://abcnews.go.com/International/missing-aruba-investigators-focus-insurance-policy/story?id=14321496

http://abcnews.go.com/International/missing-aruba-investigators-focus-insurance-policy/story?id=14321496&page=2

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Aruba Mystery: What Happened to Missing Robyn Gardner?
Wednesday August 17, 2011 07:30 PM EDT


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The most recent shocker was the discovery of graphic photographs on Giordano's digital camera. The photos show Gardner in sexual positions with "parts of" Giordano, according to Stein. The images, a source tells PEOPLE are "beyond pornographic."

No other information about the photos has been revealed, and it's still not known exactly when the pictures were taken and whether Gardner had engaged in the acts willingly.

It's the latest surprise in a case that had already gained notoriety because of its parallels to the unsolved disappearance of Natalee Holloway, 18, from Aruba in 2005. The suspect in that case, Joran van der Sloot, is being tried this fall in Peru for the murder of another woman. The Natalee Holloway Resource Center has opened a tip line for the Gardner case.

The leads have been provocative. Along with the photos, authorities revealed they're looking into a $1.5 million accidental death insurance policy that Giordano reportedly took out on Gardner before their trip.

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http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20520711,00.html

 

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« Reply #809 on: August 18, 2011, 01:42:39 AM »

http://www.peterrdevries.nl/nieuws/nieuw-seizoen-start-op-30-oktober/

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #811 on: August 18, 2011, 01:47:05 AM »





Justice for Natalee,





and Stephany!

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #812 on: August 18, 2011, 11:16:43 AM »

Beth Holloway will Dr. Drew's guest tonight.  The Robyn Gardner case will be the topic of discussion.

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Missing in Aruba: Investigators Focus on Insurance Policy
Aug. 17, 2011


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Gardner, 35, has been missing for two weeks, since reportedly snorkeling with Giordano, 50, off of an isolated beach on Aug. 2. The two traveled together from Maryland to Aruba on July 31. She is now presumed to be dead by Aruba police.

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Police are asking members of the public that may have information about Gardner's disappearance to call 011-297-582-0695 and leave their tip and contact information. The Natalee Holloway Resource Center, which is also helping with the case, has set up an American tip line at 407-237-2295.

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http://abcnews.go.com/International/missing-aruba-investigators-focus-insurance-policy/story?id=14321496

http://abcnews.go.com/International/missing-aruba-investigators-focus-insurance-policy/story?id=14321496&page=2



Website:
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http://www.crimemuseum.org/NHRC
http://helpthemissing.org/

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http://www.facebook.com/HelpTheMissing

Help Find Robyn Colson - Gardner : Missing in Aruba
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall

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« Reply #813 on: August 18, 2011, 11:29:16 AM »


Missing in Aruba: Investigators Focus on Insurance Policy
Aug. 17, 2011


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Surveillance video from local businesses place Giordano and Gardner at the Rum Reef Bar & Grill in the Baby Beach area of the island before Gardner went missing, a law enforcement source told ABC News. Restaurant staff said that Gardner seemed woozy while the two ate; Giordano later told police they'd been drinking vodka at the Marriott before dining, and that she'd taken sleeping pills earlier in the day, the source said.

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Video:
http://abcnews.go.com/International/missing-aruba-investigators-focus-insurance-policy/story?id=14321496

http://abcnews.go.com/International/missing-aruba-investigators-focus-insurance-policy/story?id=14321496&page=2


Aruba Mystery: What Happened to Missing Robyn Gardner?
Wednesday August 17, 2011 07:30 PM EDT


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The most recent shocker was the discovery of graphic photographs on Giordano's digital camera. The photos show Gardner in sexual positions with "parts of" Giordano, according to Stein. The images, a source tells PEOPLE are "beyond pornographic."

No other information about the photos has been revealed, and it's still not known exactly when the pictures were taken and whether Gardner had engaged in the acts willingly.

It's the latest surprise in a case that had already gained notoriety because of its parallels to the unsolved disappearance of Natalee Holloway, 18, from Aruba in 2005. The suspect in that case, Joran van der Sloot, is being tried this fall in Peru for the murder of another woman. The Natalee Holloway Resource Center has opened a tip line for the Gardner case.

The leads have been provocative. Along with the photos, authorities revealed they're looking into a $1.5 million accidental death insurance policy that Giordano reportedly took out on Gardner before their trip.

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http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20520711,00.html


Could it be the Gary Giordano had been drugging Robin Gardner since their arrival on the Island three days earlier?

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« Reply #814 on: August 18, 2011, 11:41:01 AM »


FOOD FOR THOUGHT

NANCY GRACE
Aired August 17, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


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NANCY GRACE, HOST:  ... Now claims emerging Gardner woozy at that lunch, woozy after being given sleeping pills. Who takes sleeping pills before they snorkel? ...

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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1108/17/ng.01.html

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« Reply #815 on: August 18, 2011, 12:00:40 PM »

Gary Giordano Tried to Collect Insurance Payout on Robyn Gardner: Sources
Aug. 18, 2011


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Travel Insurance Policy Focus of Robyn Gardner Investigation

In Maryland, Gardner's live-in boyfriend Robert Forester said the revelations about the insurance policy were disturbing.

"To be honest, I was saddened to hear it. I can't believe that Robyn would ever sign something like that voluntarily. Maybe if she was forced to, maybe if she was misinformed to what it was," Forester said.

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http://abcnews.go.com/International/gary-giordano-redeem-insurance-policy-robyn-gardner/story?id=14331550
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« Reply #816 on: August 18, 2011, 12:02:27 PM »

Gary Giordano Tried to Collect Insurance Payout on Robyn Gardner: Sources
Aug. 18, 2011


Gary Giordano, the only suspect in the disappearance of Robyn Gardner in Aruba, tried to redeem an insurance policy on Gardner that could be worth up to $1.5 million, according to reports.

Giordano moved to collect on the policy, which named him as beneficiary, within two days of reporting Gardner missing, the Associated Press reported.

Police were investigating an accidental death insurance policy for Gardner that named Giordano, 50, as the beneficiary, ABC News had reported earlier this week.

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http://abcnews.go.com/International/gary-giordano-redeem-insurance-policy-robyn-gardner/story?id=14331550
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« Reply #817 on: August 18, 2011, 01:31:41 PM »

It appears that Julia Renfro's relationship with the "powers that be" within the ALE ... relationship that was thisclose during the Natalee Holloway investigation ... has not changed.

Why would a reporter/editor be privy to Robyn Gardner case evidence that has yet to be released to the media?

Janet

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The Robyn Gardner Case

REPORT: ‘Beyond Pornographic’ Photos Of Robyn Gardner Found In Suspect’s Digital Camera
Posted on Aug 18, 2011 @ 11:15AM


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Police have also discovered naked photos of Robyn with Giordano on his digital camera, and the pictures are “beyond pornographic,” according to People magazine.

“You only see organs,” Julia Renfro, the editor-in-chief of Aruba Today said, explaining that it was unclear if the acts were consensual. “You don’t know if she is awake. There are other pictures where she is posing naked.”

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http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/08/report-beyond-pornographic-photos-robyn-gardner-found-suspect-s-digital-camera


The Natalee Holloway Case

Is the Government of Aruba Going after Natalee's Family?
Published December 07, 2005


BILL O'REILLY, HOST:  ... The thesis, and they quote Deputy Chief Gerold Dompig in the article. The thesis is that the Holloway family, Twitty family, impeded the police investigation, Julia. Do you believe that?

JULIA RENFRO, EDITOR, ARUBA TODAY: Well, it’s not really what I believe, but I did speak to the Commissioner Dompig earlier today, and I asked him, "What did you mean by they hurt the investigation?" And he said he’s not blaming them specifically for anything, but that their attacks via the U.S. media certainly changed the tide of the investigation, basically, pressuring the police to make what they felt, believe it or not, premature arrests of the suspect.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,177980,00.html
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« Reply #818 on: August 18, 2011, 05:03:46 PM »

E prome y unico clinica pa Medicina Hyperbarica ta felicita su empleado Paul Seute


Recientemente Paul Seute, chamber master na HOPE, a termina excitosamente su cursonan di medicina hyperbaric den “HYPERBARIC MEDICINE TEAM TRAINING” na e hospital Nix na na San Antonio Texas. HOPE desde 2006 ta un centro pa medicina hyperbarico caminda patientnan ta hania diagnostico y tratamiento. Entre e diagnosticonan mas mira ta pia diabetico cu herida severo cu no kier cura of cu ta na peliger di amputashon.

HOPE (Hyperbaric Oxygen Producing Environment) cu a ser lanta entre Ulrich Tromp y Ike Posner na ania 2006 pa trata scuba divers y malesanan pa medicina hyperbarico. Nan a kuminsa ku un chamber di marca Perry y awendia HOPE tin tres chamber, dos di marca leaderlife. E chamber nan aki cu ta invershonan grandi, ta sumamanete effectivo y comodo pa jiuda patientan.

Na ania 2006 HOPE a gana un reconosimiento di PADI pa aporta na e seguridad di scuba diving na Aruba. Hope ta reconosi pa Divers Alert Network DAN di Duke Universityo y ta den e ultimo fasenan pa reconosimiento di UHMS (undersea and hyperbaric medical society). Tambe HOPE a cuminsa e proceso pa ser reconosi pa duna cuido na professional divers. Na Augustus e top authoridad na mundo Dr Francois Burma di Sudafrica ta bini pa duna training y certifica esnan na HOPE.

Ku aparatonan sufistica y di ultimo technologia doctor Posner y su team ta juda su patientnan. Vasera ta un aparato ku den centronan na Japon, Europa y USA ta ser husa pa screening di problemanan di circulashon. Sin dolor y di un forma rapido por bisa con e estado di e adernan ta. TCOM ku ta para pa Transcutaneous Oxygen Measurement ta e aparato reconosi mundialmente pa jiuda diagnostic e estado di heridanan y pa jiuda duna prognostico.

Diagnostico cu mester di medicina hyperbarico ta entre otro:
Scuba divers cu a bent
Pia Diabetico cu herida chronico
Heridanan causa pa tratamiento cu radiocion
Infectionan chronico den hueso, osteomyelitis
Infectionan cu “flesh eating” bacteria ku ta un emergencia den medicina
Flap nan den sirugia plastico

Empleadonan cu hopi experiencia, educashont training ta traja na HOPE. Enfermeronan cu mas di 30 ania di experiencia, ingeniero electronico y di IT y programashon, efermeronan experto den anesthesia, cuido intesivo, den dolor y heridanan, personal cu training na Merca, Colombia, Cuba y Europa den cursonan y hospitalnan reconosi mundialmente. Tur ta conosi cu e huso di technologia manera anodyne, bioptron, UV-C, gravitational platelet separation, vacume assisted closure, una boot. Pronto lo por lesa di esakinan riba www.hopearuba.com.


Asina HOPE ta felicita Paul Seute y su personal en general pa nan empenio di busca excelencia den cuido di patientnan ku mester medicina hyperbarico.
http://www.boletinextra.com/index.php/local-news/9779-e-prome-y-unico-clinica-pa-medicina-hyperbarica-ta-felicita-su-empleado-paul-seute
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