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« Reply #820 on: August 18, 2011, 05:04:39 PM »


AHATA Lino van der Biezen of The Westin Resort & Casino, Aruba is Caribbean Supreivsor of the Year.
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« Reply #821 on: August 18, 2011, 07:24:50 PM »

Beth Holloway will Dr. Drew's guest tonight.  The Robyn Gardner case will be the topic of discussion.

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Missing in Aruba: Investigators Focus on Insurance Policy
Aug. 17, 2011


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Gardner, 35, has been missing for two weeks, since reportedly snorkeling with Giordano, 50, off of an isolated beach on Aug. 2. The two traveled together from Maryland to Aruba on July 31. She is now presumed to be dead by Aruba police.

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Police are asking members of the public that may have information about Gardner's disappearance to call 011-297-582-0695 and leave their tip and contact information. The Natalee Holloway Resource Center, which is also helping with the case, has set up an American tip line at 407-237-2295.

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http://abcnews.go.com/International/missing-aruba-investigators-focus-insurance-policy/story?id=14321496

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http://helpthemissing.org/

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Help Find Robyn Colson - Gardner : Missing in Aruba
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« Reply #822 on: August 18, 2011, 08:46:10 PM »

Kimberly and Kelly are going off because the prosecuters haven't filed charges on Joran yet. You all will enjoy their outrage!:

Fox News Video:
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1116876427001/could-joran-van-der-sloot-be-released
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« Reply #823 on: August 18, 2011, 10:25:53 PM »

http://solodipueblo.com/?p=9054

8/18/2011 Solo di Pueblo Front Page

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #824 on: August 18, 2011, 10:34:59 PM »

Kimberly and Kelly are going off because the prosecuters haven't filed charges on Joran yet. You all will enjoy their outrage!:

Fox News Video:
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1116876427001/could-joran-van-der-sloot-be-released

 

Thanks CBB

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Natalee Holloway's mother consoles Flores family
By the CNN Wire Staff
June 17, 2010 -- Updated 1753 GMT (0153 HKT)


(CNN) -- The mother of missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway talked to the family of a murdered Peruvian woman whose case may be linked to her daughter's, the Peruvian family told CNN's sister network In Session.

Beth Holloway gave the Flores family her "sincere, sincere condolences" when they spoke for the first time Wednesday, Enrique Flores told In Session's Jean Casarez.

Flores' sister Stephany was killed May 30. Joran van der Sloot, who is being held in connection with the killing, was twice arrested but never charged in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway in 2005.

Beth Holloway told Enrique Flores she hoped his family would not go through what her family had suffered, he said.

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http://edition.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/17/peru.murder.case.holloway/
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« Reply #825 on: August 18, 2011, 10:56:53 PM »

Kimberly and Kelly are going off because the prosecuters haven't filed charges on Joran yet. You all will enjoy their outrage!:

Fox News Video:
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1116876427001/could-joran-van-der-sloot-be-released

His confession is not the truth, it's a Joran version of the truth...he's the victim as usual.

I don't see Joran being set free in Peru, if he is someone will take him out and no one will ever be prosecuted for it.  If there's no money for a lawyer, there's no money for protection on the streets of Lima.

jmo

My understanding from the reports so far, are that IF he was released; he would be required to stay in Peru, and would only remain free until the trial. 
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #826 on: August 18, 2011, 11:10:31 PM »

“Van der Sloot went on gambling after murder
”Published on 25 March 2011 - 6:15pm


Joran van der Sloot may have spent the night playing online poker after murdering Stephany Flores, according to Peruvian forensic investigators who have carried out a detailed examination of his laptop.

The detectives also found that Flores did not search for information on Natalee Holloway immediately before the murder, as Van der Sloot claims. The laptop was used to search for details of the Holloway case, but much earlier in the day, Dutch website Crimesite reports. Van der Sloot says he killed Flores in a fury when he saw she was reading about his alleged involvement in Holloway’s disappearance.

Between 04.24 and 08.23 Van der Sloot’s laptop was in use, with a number of pauses, and two poker websites were visited. This could suggest Van der Sloot went on playing poker after murdering Flores. Another possibility is that the murder took place after the poker games were finished. This would mean the killing did not take place during a row shortly after the two returned to the hotel at 05.30, as he claimed in his initial statement to the police.

Crime of passion

Van der Sloot says that after an evening at the casino he and Flores returned to the hotel at her suggestion to go on playing poker. When he checked his e-mail he found hate mail relating to his alleged involvement in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, he says. When he returned to the room after fetching coffee, he claims he found Flores using his laptop to look for information on the Holloway case, and lost his temper.

Van der Sloot’s defence lawyer argues he killed Flores in the heat of the moment when the row turned into a physical fight. The murder was therefore not premeditated but a ‘crime of passion’. But the data on the laptop shows the search for information on Holloway, said to have prompted the row, took place much earlier in the day, during the afternoon.

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http://www.rnw.nl/english/bulletin/%E2%80%9Cvan-der-sloot-went-gambling-after-murder%E2%80%9D
 
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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« Reply #827 on: August 18, 2011, 11:15:01 PM »

March 28, 2011 11:55 AM
Joran van der Sloot Laptop Lie? Peru police say computer exposes lie in Stephany Flores killing


CBS/AP) LIMA, Peru - A study of Joran van der Sloot's laptop shows he is lying when he says he killed a young Peruvian woman in a fit of rage after she discovered his connection to Natalee Holloway's disappearance while using the computer, a senior Peruvian police official said Friday.

Stephany Flores did not view any such information on the laptop after accompanying Van der Sloot to the Lima hotel room where she was killed on May 30, the technology chief of Peru's police, Col. Oscar Gonzales, told The Associated Press.

"She didn't view anything about Holloway. It's a lie that she tried to ask him about (the case)," Gonzales said.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20047862-504083.html

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« Reply #828 on: August 18, 2011, 11:20:05 PM »

Murder of Stephany Flores in Peru: Joran Van der Sloot Lying Again … Laptop Study Shows that Searches on Natalee Holloway Much Earlier in the Day

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... Now Van der Sloot, the Dutch Sporter is lying to save his bacon in Peru in the death of Stephany Flores. Van der Sloot has claims that he murdered Flores in a fit of passion and rage after discovering that she had violated his privacy and has looking up information on his laptop in connection with the death of Natalee Holloway in Aruba.

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Posted March 26, 2011 by Scared Monkeys

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/03/26/murder-of-stephany-flores-in-peru-joran-van-der-sloot-lying-again-laptop-study-shows-that-searches-on-natalee-holloway-much-earlier-in-the-day/
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« Reply #829 on: August 18, 2011, 11:26:14 PM »

http://www.rnw.nl/english/bulletin/joran-van-der-sloot-unlikely-be-freed

Joran van der Sloot unlikely to be freed
Published on 18 August 2011 - 9:57pm

It is highly unlikely that Dutch murder suspect Joran van der Sloot will be released from remand before he stands trial, says Peruvian legal expert Mario Amoretti.

Van der Sloot is suspected of the murder of Stephany Flores, a 21-year-old student who was found dead in his hotel room in Lima over a year ago. He was arrested in June 2010 and has been in custody since. Under Peruvian law, remand is limited to 18 months.

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The Flores family’s lawyer Edward Alvarez had complained that no indictment against Van der Sloot had yet been formulated. He warned that the delay could lead to the suspect being released to await the start of the trial in freedom in Peru.

The Peruvian justice authorities have confirmed that Van der Sloot’s remand can indeed be extended as Mr Amoretti says, but stress that there’s as yet no question of that being necessary. The Public Prosecutor is said to have received the file in July and to be dealing with the case.

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« Reply #830 on: August 18, 2011, 11:32:13 PM »

Kimberly and Kelly are going off because the prosecuters haven't filed charges on Joran yet. You all will enjoy their outrage!:

Fox News Video:
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1116876427001/could-joran-van-der-sloot-be-released

His confession is not the truth, it's a Joran version of the truth...he's the victim as usual.

I don't see Joran being set free in Peru, if he is someone will take him out and no one will ever be prosecuted for it.  If there's no money for a lawyer, there's no money for protection on the streets of Lima.

jmo

My understanding from the reports so far, are that IF he was released; he would be required to stay in Peru, and would only remain free until the trial. 

 
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« Reply #831 on: August 18, 2011, 11:57:18 PM »

Kimberly and Kelly are going off because the prosecuters haven't filed charges on Joran yet. You all will enjoy their outrage!:

Fox News Video:
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1116876427001/could-joran-van-der-sloot-be-released

His confession is not the truth, it's a Joran version of the truth...he's the victim as usual.

I don't see Joran being set free in Peru, if he is someone will take him out and no one will ever be prosecuted for it.  If there's no money for a lawyer, there's no money for protection on the streets of Lima.

jmo

My understanding from the reports so far, are that IF he was released; he would be required to stay in Peru, and would only remain free until the trial. 

 

I don't think he would make it 10' out the front gate.  .......................actually might be preferable!
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« Reply #832 on: August 19, 2011, 12:37:45 AM »

Kimberly and Kelly are going off because the prosecuters haven't filed charges on Joran yet. You all will enjoy their outrage!:

Fox News Video:
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1116876427001/could-joran-van-der-sloot-be-released

His confession is not the truth, it's a Joran version of the truth...he's the victim as usual.

I don't see Joran being set free in Peru, if he is someone will take him out and no one will ever be prosecuted for it.  If there's no money for a lawyer, there's no money for protection on the streets of Lima.

jmo

My understanding from the reports so far, are that IF he was released; he would be required to stay in Peru, and would only remain free until the trial. 

 

I don't think he would make it 10' out the front gate.  .......................actually might be preferable!

I agree.   
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #833 on: August 19, 2011, 12:44:00 AM »

Kimberly and Kelly are going off because the prosecuters haven't filed charges on Joran yet. You all will enjoy their outrage!:

Fox News Video:
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1116876427001/could-joran-van-der-sloot-be-released

His confession is not the truth, it's a Joran version of the truth...he's the victim as usual.

I don't see Joran being set free in Peru, if he is someone will take him out and no one will ever be prosecuted for it.  If there's no money for a lawyer, there's no money for protection on the streets of Lima.

jmo

My understanding from the reports so far, are that IF he was released; he would be required to stay in Peru, and would only remain free until the trial. 

 

I don't think he would make it 10' out the front gate.  .......................actually might be preferable!

I agree.   
I say that knowing that an "alive" Joran might finally give up where Natalee is -- sadly, the truth is he will NEVER give it up. I say ------ be done with him. 
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« Reply #834 on: August 19, 2011, 12:57:51 AM »

http://www.pokernews.com/news/2011/08/the-nightly-turbo-full-tilt-class-action-suit-bonomo-move-10875.htm

The Nightly Turbo: Full Tilt Class Action Suit, Bonomo on the Move, and More
August 18 2011, Elaine Chaivarlis

Joran van der Sloot might actually get out of jail. But since he has a loose connection to poker, and we think he's a deplorable person, we're not really going to talk about it. What we will discuss is the new class action lawsuit, where Justin Bonomo is headed, and more.

Read more: http://www.pokernews.com/news/2011/08/the-nightly-turbo-full-tilt-class-action-suit-bonomo-move-10875.htm
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« Reply #835 on: August 19, 2011, 12:58:53 AM »

The Beth Holloway Interview
by Rachel Cohen
03/25/2009


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What prompted you to write the book “Loving Natalee: A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith”?

The writing of the book actually evolved over a period of time. Shortly after this happened to Natalee, I made a pledge that I would share her story with every high school I could, because I hoped that no other family would have to endure the challenges that we faced during our first few weeks in Aruba. I lived in Aruba for about four months while I was searching for her, and during the fifth month, I thought it was time for me to make good on my pledge as Natalee’s case was now in the hands of John Kelly, attorney at law. I began traveling and, over the course of two years, presented personal safety messages to over 20,000 high school and college students in 22 states. During this time I thought, “How could I reach more travelers?” and I started thinking about writing a book.

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http://www.mylifetime.com/movies/natalee-holloway/the-beth-holloway-interview

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LOVING NATALEE
A MOTHER'S TESTAMENT OF HOPE AND FAITH
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ISBN: 9780061452277
ISBN10: 0061452270
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« Reply #836 on: August 19, 2011, 01:44:22 AM »





Justice for Natalee,





and Stephany!

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #837 on: August 19, 2011, 03:08:19 AM »


http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/joran-van-der-sloot-free-by-xmas

The prime suspect in the NATALEE HOLLOWAY disappearance, JORAN VAN DER SLOOT may be freed from Peruvian prison by Christmas.
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« Reply #838 on: August 19, 2011, 07:58:41 AM »

beyond disturbing.....
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« Reply #839 on: August 19, 2011, 01:21:53 PM »

The price is right!  A great gift idea for friends/relatives who fail to comprehend the Natalee Holloway obsession while at the same time supporting the National Museum of Crime & Punishment.

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NATIONAL MUSEUM OF CRIME & PUNISHMENT

Loving Natalee

The book retells events leading up to the night Natalee Holloway disappeared during a high school graduation trip to Aruba in 2005, and the ensuing investigation in the aftermath. It then focuses on the obstacles faced by the Holloway-Twitty family in their search for Natalee's whereabouts. Holloway recounts her anger at what she felt was a lack of cooperation from local authorities such as the Aruba Police Force, including the failure to obtain a warrant to search the home of suspect Joran van der Sloot.

Price 7.99

http://tickets.crimemuseum.org/retail/Books/Non-Fiction/LovingNataleeBook.aspx
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