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« Reply #880 on: August 21, 2011, 04:17:41 PM »

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Robyn-Gardner-latest-New-witness-delayed-search/ySXn08_AXEm_iLWUjq9CkQ.cspx

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A man who was fishing on the beach says Gardner and her companion Gary Giordano left the beach without going in the water.  The witness says the two drove off and didn't return to the beach.

Giordano claims he and Gardner were snorkeling and she disappeared in the water.   Giordano is being held as a suspect in her disappearance. 

Among the reasons he is being held is an insurance policy he purchased on Gardner, that he tried to collect on after her disappearance.   Giordano, who purchased the accidental policy shortly before travelling to the Dutch Caribbean island with the 35-year-old, tried to begin redeeming the American Express policy, which he took out just days before their trip and unusually only covered the trip to Aruba.
According to a police source, Giordano purchased a more expensive one-year policy instead of a more commonly purchased five year policy.

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Considering the "beyond pornographic" images did not indicate illegal wrongdoing  and ... the bloody handprint has been revealed a rumor ... the observation of this witness and ... the existence of the life insurance policy gives me guarded optimism that justice may prevail for Robyn Gardner.

Janet


Then again ... security cameras indicated that Joran, Deepak and Satish lied regarding the last time they were with Natalee Holloway just prior to her disappearance and ... they were never held accountable for any participation regarding the happenings encompassing the morning of May 30, 2005.

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Page 120:  Natalee never returned to the Holiday Inn. We had seen the tapes with a room full of police officials.  These two security guards also do not appear on the Holiday Inn security videos that we were shown.  So why these arrests?  Islanders are outraged.  And so are we.  It’s blatant discrimination.

Page 182:  Helen is very positive.  "It looks good that they will remain in custody" she says.  Then just three hours after she tells me this encouraging news, a devastating call comes from an AP reporter.  Paulus van der Sloot and his attorney are bragging to everyone that all three suspects are getting out day after tomorrow!.  Then all the media start calling.  I call Helen, then FBI agent Bill and the U.S. vice-consul.  None of them have this information. So we tell the media it must be a rumor.  But the word is out all over the island from the defense side that all three suspects will walk.  Four and a half hours after this announcement is made to international media by Joran's father and his defense team, the FBI calls to tell me that it is indeed true.  So the three suspects who were last seen with my daughter, and who offered multiple versions of what happened that night, will go free.   And we are the last ones to find out.


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« Reply #881 on: August 21, 2011, 05:00:10 PM »

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LORD TAKE AWAY MY STRENGTH FROM PUSHING MY BABY MAMA RIGHT OUT THE DAMN TRUCK,THIS IS GONNA BE A LOOOOOOONG ROAD TRIO,,,SHE'S LUCKY WE'RE NOT GOING TO ARUBA!!!

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #882 on: August 21, 2011, 05:19:52 PM »

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« Reply #883 on: August 21, 2011, 07:03:10 PM »

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LORD TAKE AWAY MY STRENGTH FROM PUSHING MY BABY MAMA RIGHT OUT THE DAMN TRUCK,THIS IS GONNA BE A LOOOOOOONG ROAD TRIO,,,SHE'S LUCKY WE'RE NOT GOING TO ARUBA!!!

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« Reply #884 on: August 22, 2011, 12:41:48 AM »





Justice for Natalee,





and Stephany!

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #885 on: August 23, 2011, 12:22:41 AM »

People Magazine July 4, 2005

http://www.people.com/people/

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #886 on: August 23, 2011, 02:37:00 AM »

When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it--always.


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« Reply #887 on: August 23, 2011, 07:36:28 PM »


http://scaredmonkeys.com/


The Dana Pretzer Show On Scared Monkeys Radio – Tuesday, August 23rd, 2011 – Special Guests: Blink from Blink on Crime, Diane Dimond and Pat Brown Discussing Missing Robyn Gardner in Aruba, the West Memphis 3 and More
 


LISTEN TO THE DANA PRETZER SHOW TONIGHT LIVE AT 9 PM ET ON SCARED MONKEYS RADIO

Tonight Dana welcomes special guests:

Crime Blogger Blink from Blink on Crime -  She will be discussing the recent developments with the West Memphis 3 and what’s been happening in Aruba in the case of missing American Robyn Gardner and suspect, travel companion Gary Giordano.

Diane Dimond -  discussing the Re Composer Frank Bender and her thoughts on the latest missing persons case Aruba

Pat Brown -  Criminal Profiler provides her thoughts on West Memphis Three decision and the case of missing Robyn Gardner in Aruba.

LISTEN TONIGHT LIVE AT 9PM ET


 
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #888 on: August 23, 2011, 08:52:34 PM »

The Dana Pretzer Show On Scared Monkeys Radio – Tuesday, August 23rd, 2011 – Special Guests: Blink from Blink on Crime, Diane Dimond and Pat Brown Discussing Missing Robyn Gardner in Aruba, the West Memphis 3 and More

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/08/23/the-dana-pretzer-show-on-scared-monkeys-radio-%e2%80%93-tuesday-august-23rd-2011-%e2%80%93-special-guests-blink-from-blink-on-crime-diane-dimond-and-pat-brown-discussing-missing-robyn-gardner-in-a/



LISTEN TO THE DANA PRETZER SHOW TONIGHT LIVE AT 9 PM ET ON SCARED MONKEYS RADIO

Tonight Dana welcomes special guests:

Crime Blogger Blink from Blink on Crime -  She will be discussing the recent developments with the West Memphis 3 and what’s been happening in Aruba in the case of missing American Robyn Gardner and suspect, travel companion Gary Giordano.
Diane Dimond -  discussing the Re Composer Frank Bender and her thoughts on the latest missing persons case Aruba
Pat Brown -  Criminal Profiler provides her thoughts on West Memphis Three decision and the case of missing Robyn Gardner in Aruba.
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« Reply #889 on: August 23, 2011, 10:31:18 PM »

I agree with Blink.

Could it be that Gary Giordano did not anticipate Aruban investigators challenging his snorkling/drowning account of a tourist?

Could it be that Gary Giodano and/or Aruban investigators did not anticipate the media becoming an issue?

Think about it. If Richard Forester had not contacted the NHRC would Giodano had caught that plane home to the States and … the disappearance of Robyn Gardner would have been categorized in Aruban case files as an accidental drowning. In other words ... Case Closed!

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BETH HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY`S MOTHER: Well, first of all, Richard made the call to the Natalee Holloway Resource Center on August the 8th, which was a great move on his part. We were able to immediately pull together some photos that Richard had given us.

And the biggest asset of the Natalee Holloway Resource Center is that we provide is we send out the media release. And as we al know, media is essential in helping to solicit tips and eyewitnesses. So we got that ball rolling through Richard`s efforts.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1108/10/ddhln.01.html


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« Reply #890 on: August 23, 2011, 10:32:15 PM »

Blink was great!!  She has the gift of articulation.

At this point in time both Beth Holloway and Blink are on the same page.

I also believe that justice just might prevail for Robyn Gardner.  There is no reason to establish a cover up in this case.  Gary Giordona ... the main suspect ... is not the son of the an Aruban/Dutch elite.

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HILL: The Aruban authorities continue investigating.

Beth, when you look at the steps that had been taken. They`ve stopped him. I mean he went passed the Aruban -- sort of arm of law and they were able to bring him back in. Do you get a sense that perhaps they`re doing a better job?

HOLLOWAY: I do. I`m still guarded though and I do hope they prove me wrong and show me what Dutch law can really do with a perpetrator on their island. I am very encouraged so far. So I just want to -- just see how this proceeds.

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« Reply #891 on: August 23, 2011, 10:33:42 PM »

Hi Dana

I have missed ya!  I hope you are having a good summer.  The West of our great country is finally being afforded some sunshine.

Thanks to you and your guests.  I don't alway agree but insights are definitely food for thought.  Could the disappearance of Robyn Gardner have been an insurance scam?  Considering Gary Giordona's history in relation to women ... I don't think so but ... until the truth is revealed ... speculation is where it is at.

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« Reply #892 on: August 24, 2011, 02:24:30 AM »




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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #893 on: August 24, 2011, 03:24:44 AM »

What a beautiful picture of Beth, TM! Thank you for sharing it. She never ceases to inspire me.
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« Reply #894 on: August 24, 2011, 09:01:19 PM »


Peruvian prisoners dressed as "Brazil" arrive to take part in their own Copa America soccer tournament at Castro-Castro prison in Lima (Source: Reuters Date:07/11/2011)










more photos here: http://m.ibtimes.com/2011-copa-america-soccer-tournament-prison-peru-argentina-messi-178014.html
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« Reply #895 on: August 24, 2011, 11:02:48 PM »

Did a text message seal her fate? Robyn Gardner 'killed after suspect read text sent in Aruba telling boyfriend she loved him'
Last updated at 8:03 PM on 24th August 2011


An American woman missing in Aruba was killed after the man she was travelling with read a text she sent to her boyfriend telling him she loved him, it has been reported.

Shocking new details have emerged in the case of Robyn Gardner about the final hours before the 35-year-old dental assistant from Maryland disappeared on August 2.

Police reportedly believe her travelling partner Gary Giordano, who she met on Match.com, brutally killed her after spotting a text she had written to her boyfriend back home, saying: 'I love you'.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2029692/Robyn-Gardner-killed-Aruba-Gary-Giordano-read-text-sent-boyfriend.html?ito=feeds-newsxml



The Stephany Flores Case

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DUTCHMAN SAYS HE KILLED PERUVIAN WOMAN IN FIT OF RAGE
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Peruvian police have obtained what Aruba couldn't: a murder confession from Joran Van der Sloot in the killing of a young woman. The Dutchman has admitted killing Stephany Flores, 21, in his Lima hotel room, a Peruvian government official tells MSNBC.

Van der Sloot says he broke her neck in a fit of rage when she used his laptop computer without permission and discovered he was involved in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, according to reports in the Peruvian media.

"I did not want to do it. The girl intruded into my private life," Van der Sloot is quoted as saying.

http://www.newser.com/story/91709/van-der-sloot-confesses.html
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« Reply #896 on: August 24, 2011, 11:11:00 PM »

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #897 on: August 24, 2011, 11:15:01 PM »

Another murder in Aruba...   

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/35418-homber-staca-den-pecho.html

Papiamentu translation:

asesinato at tarabana: man surname camara of 33 year hinca y beat owing to die at hospital

sunday, 14 august 2011 19:03

diadomingo nightfall first cu bahada of sun bisiñanan of pindastraat cu fiyostraat owing to hear gritonan of two man is fight abroad of they cura of cas. according one witness hour the la leave abroad for see kico is pasando owing to come encontra one cabayero throw near of the passenger of one car y one another is huy in forest. the bisiñanan is sospecha of one action for asunto of throw of drugs cual is some comun in the area. police owing to confisca one nisan ex saloon color cora burn. recherche owing to present at the sitio for inicia the investigacion. ambulance owing to transporta the victima cu maximo urgencia for dr horacio oduber hospital. at hospital dokternna owing to work cune but owing to golpinan y hinca at his curpa was demasiado for her can owing to sobrevivi. informacion cu have is tell cu he calling marco camara of 33 year owing to fayece at dr horacio oduber hospital. cuerpo tecnico y recherché is investigando the caso. is buscando testigonan in the caso here.

They've made an arrest in this murder.

http://www.awe24.com/20110819/8229/Hues_comisario_a_prolonga_detencion_di_ali_kai_thielman_relaciona_cu_e

judge comisario owing to prolonga detencion of ali kai thielman relaciona cu the asesinato at tarabana

12 hora happen come across, 19 of august 2011 11:59

diabierna morning owing to present fast of judge comisario the sospechoso ali kai thielman, after of owing to revisa the documentonan of the investigacion, not owing to stay nothing another for prolonga the detencion of ali kai because; sospechoso of the asesinato at tarabana week happen.



From an older case, no date on the article...

http://www.einformante.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=142:bringamento-dilanti-corte-relaciona-cu-caso-tiramento-di-gang-di-dakota&catid=8:corte&Itemid=7

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in sitting-room of corte all the sospechosonan envolvi in one or another as in the casonan of tiramento (shooting) at havanna, eagle beach y bouwmaatschappij (construction company) y also sospecha of is form part of one organizacion cu intension of comete crimen was present. the sospechosonan ta: derrick dania, herman cabrera, alfred williams, nigel williams, ali kai thielman. come across.

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Yet Travel agents were being told that there had been only one murder in the last 20 years!  Turns out their murder rate is as high or higher than that of this country despite the PR lying.  And regionally, second highest murder rate in the world.
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« Reply #898 on: August 24, 2011, 11:17:52 PM »


http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/joran-van-der-sloot-free-by-xmas

The prime suspect in the NATALEE HOLLOWAY disappearance, JORAN VAN DER SLOOT may be freed from Peruvian prison by Christmas.


It never ends.  And after Casey Anthony, this country is not doing so well in the justice department either.  I am totally disillusioned now.
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« Reply #899 on: August 24, 2011, 11:18:58 PM »

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