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Author Topic: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL/JURY SELECTION - DAY 4 - 5/12/11  (Read 32667 times)
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« Reply #1420 on: May 13, 2011, 12:00:04 AM »

Did goofball just call that juror- Mr Middleton rather than juror XYZ?

Nice....
I really don't think the jurors names should be released at all to the duhfense.
I'm more concerned with the duhfense knowing the names of the jurors than the media.

They have copies of the questionnaires they filled out with all their information. That is why I think the defense asked for more investigation money from the court.
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« Reply #1421 on: May 13, 2011, 12:02:19 AM »

Maybe Cindy will get on the side of truth with this defense strategy, but I'm not 100% sure of that. I'm thinking it's possible she'll throw George out and under the bus. When it comes to Lee, I think she'd have a harder time doing that.
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« Reply #1422 on: May 13, 2011, 12:05:47 AM »

First few minutes of this video from today.
http://www.wftv.com/video/27876132/index.html

KC comes back from the recess and Tupperware lady is sitting at defense table looking at something on her phone
KC sits down
Tupperware lady is still focused on whatever she is looking at on her phone
Tupperware lady spins her chair around to talk to KC, holds up her phone and shows KC whatever she was looking at
They both seem to be ohhhhing and awwwwwing, have a little giggle and continue to discuss
KC then grabs a folder from desk, pulls out a paper (picture?) points at something while talking to Tupperware lady who is engrossed
KC slides that piece of paper aside and then they look at paper under, slides the top paper back on top and they both are discussing and pointing at something, both smiling and giggling like two old friends who would be sharing a coffee and showing  lasted images of their kids to each other.
KC motions to her mouth and jaw to the delight of Tupperware lady
They continue to chat when Finnell comes over says something to Tupperware lady who them shows her something on her phone. (I am guessing Finnell wants to see what she just showed KC)

I can not describe how strange this interaction is to me knowing that one is the wife of a serial killer rapist, the other is accused of killing her toddler who was found with duct tape around her mouth and they are both there for jury selection of a DP case. What are they sharing...pictures of the victims? They both seem so carefree with no iota of seriousness that you would expect to see in this situation.


My first gut reaction (after getting queasy) is that they are googling the prospective jurors.  Quite possibly the one that was being questioned right then.  WHy are they allowed on their phones and computers during court?  There is something soooo wrong with that, IMO.  Who the hell would ever want to do their "civic duty" and serve on a jury if the defense is doing that kind of crap, looking up stuff on you.  Criminal attorneys always seem "dirtier" to me than SA's but I know it goes both ways.  Just knowing this particular defense team makes me certain there is NO level too low for them.  NONE.

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« Reply #1423 on: May 13, 2011, 12:08:25 AM »

My first reaction was that they were sharing pictures of there children.
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« Reply #1424 on: May 13, 2011, 12:13:06 AM »

Gypsy, I'm not going to quote stack, but I just wanted to address your thoughts on ICA.  Am I remembering correctly that you are in some type of social work? Please forgive me, if I'm thinking of someone else.  Anyway, anyone can answer this, but I address you since you seem convinced ICA was the abuser, bully.

I agree that she was, but knowing the personality of CinA and GA, I just don't see them rolling over for her no matter how cute they thought she was as a kid.  I have no doubt in my mind that there is SOMETHING she holds over them.  All the signs are there, the seclusion, the secrets, the lies, the rage, the dysfunction.  They are the poster family for dysfunction.  I see ICA as a bully who has something to bully with.  I'd say it was Caylee, and even if that's all she had over them, what about before Caylee was born, and then now that she is deceased.  The control has seemingly been there all along. IMO
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« Reply #1425 on: May 13, 2011, 12:15:41 AM »

My first reaction was that they were sharing pictures of there children.
OK, reading that and then thinking of ICA pointing to her jaw?  Maybe they were watching the video where ICA fell in the elevator and chipped her tooth?  That always makes me smile. Monkey Devil!
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« Reply #1426 on: May 13, 2011, 12:26:43 AM »

Turbo....do you recall if Casey made that statement about not saying anything ,after she had her mental health evaluation?  If she had just come from the evaluation, then her statement could be hiding a secret.

No, she made it after she was arrested the first time. Cindy & George asked her some kind of question and that is how she replied. She already had Bozo at that time, so I don't think it had anything to do with waiting for a lawyer before talking to LE.
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« Reply #1427 on: May 13, 2011, 12:28:26 AM »

OK, I watched the video (I should have done that before commenting, my comments earlier were my reaction to your description).  Now that I watch it, I see where you say they look like old friends chatting something up.  ICA is fixated about her mouth area, and not being snarky, actually first made me think of the duct tape and how it must have been suffocating Caylee.  I don't know what she would have had a picture of in that folder?

Funny, when SKW (serial killer's wife) made a funny face and squished up her nose, I swear she said "I think I've got something up my nose".  But, I'm no lip reader.  They actually made me ill to watch them.  They are two evil nasty women.
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« Reply #1428 on: May 13, 2011, 12:32:05 AM »

UH OH.....a nurse who has worked in counseling...........defense can't have her - she is too smart.
One would think. Can you imagine what her opinion of this family will be if she is chosen ? I have always heard the defense does not want nurses or ministers on the jury. In spite of that I am a nurse of 30 plus years and was chosen to serve on a child sexual abuse case. I am still wondering about that !

Sometimes they just run out of challenges.
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« Reply #1429 on: May 13, 2011, 12:37:59 AM »

Maybe Rosalie is there to talk KC into taking a deal instead of going to death row.

Lawyers say she's good at what she does. Tampa attorney Anthony Marchese said a client wavering between a deal of life in prison or the risk of the death penalty if he went to trial was convinced when Rosalie "gave him a very personalized account of what death row was like."

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/08/08/Columns/Married_to_a_murderer.shtml
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« Reply #1430 on: May 13, 2011, 12:41:26 AM »

Maybe Rosalie is there to talk KC into taking a deal instead of going to death row.

Lawyers say she's good at what she does. Tampa attorney Anthony Marchese said a client wavering between a deal of life in prison or the risk of the death penalty if he went to trial was convinced when Rosalie "gave him a very personalized account of what death row was like."

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/08/08/Columns/Married_to_a_murderer.shtml
I don't think she'd even consider it as long as she thinks she can walk.  Maybe at the eleventh hour, or after a day or two in court.  I still don't think so though, GA said she takes everything to the extreme.  This is like that long hallway at Universal Studios.  She's not at the end yet, in her mind, so need to come clean just yet.
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« Reply #1431 on: May 13, 2011, 12:51:42 AM »

They could blame anyone but KC as she has always been the victim..........In the back of my mind I cannot get past that remark KC made when she first went to jail - "Don't worry, I haven't told them anything" - It always felt to me that there was a GIANT family secret that the Anthonys were so afraid of her telling once she got out of their grip.

Turbo..you know I respect you..but..I always thought that remark was very one sided..typical Casey talking about herself and herself only.  When people are arrested most know in a situation like this to remain silent and let their lawyer talk.  She was quite chatty with LE up until her arrest.  I think she was simply trying to let Cindy know that she was not talking about anything to save her own skin..ie taking care of herself..I just think she was so zoned in on herself and herself alone it never crossed her mind to think any other way.  

And that could be as narcissistic as she is, but it "felt" funny to me. Can't explain it but that was the statement that started my investigating things about the family. I found it was a very closed family with evidently none of KC's friends ever visiting or spending the night at her house like kids do. Caylee had no little friends or play dates which I find very unusual. She was not involved with anyone except that family and KC's friends, the majority of which Cindy did not even know. I found it extremely odd that none of KC's friends knew Cindy or George or had never been to their house. They also did not socialize at all with any of their neighbors and had no church or other group attachments that I could find.

None of those things in itself is odd in a family with an alcoholic parent or a parent with addictions, In those cases they deliberately keep "outsiders" away in fear of someone finding out the family secret. That is the way that statement hit me when she said it. I have been looking for that video but haven't found it yet to review, but I know each time I have heard it, I had the same feeling.
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« Reply #1432 on: May 13, 2011, 12:59:05 AM »

Maybe Rosalie is there to talk KC into taking a deal instead of going to death row.

Lawyers say she's good at what she does. Tampa attorney Anthony Marchese said a client wavering between a deal of life in prison or the risk of the death penalty if he went to trial was convinced when Rosalie "gave him a very personalized account of what death row was like."

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/08/08/Columns/Married_to_a_murderer.shtml
I don't think she'd even consider it as long as she thinks she can walk.  Maybe at the eleventh hour, or after a day or two in court.  I still don't think so though, GA said she takes everything to the extreme.  This is like that long hallway at Universal Studios.  She's not at the end yet, in her mind, so need to come clean just yet.

I have a suspicion you are exactly right.
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« Reply #1433 on: May 13, 2011, 01:10:37 AM »

Tupperware lady has a blog 

http://rosaliebolinsettingtheecordstraight.blogspot.com/
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« Reply #1434 on: May 13, 2011, 01:15:42 AM »

Why am I not surprised   

Tuesday, November 23, 2010
Rosalie Bolin is writing a Memoir

After much encouragement from my fellow colleagues - I have decided to write a book. I have several books to write actually. The misinformation printed about me and put on the internet is what motivates me to expose the truth. There has not been a single reporter that has reported the facts accurately. And, the garbage that is posted on the internet on "blogs" by persons that have no knowledge is why I am going to publish my own accounting of my life.

http://rosaliebolinsettingtheecordstraight.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2010-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&updated-max=2011-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&max-results=3
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« Reply #1435 on: May 13, 2011, 01:28:25 AM »

Why am I not surprised   

Tuesday, November 23, 2010
Rosalie Bolin is writing a Memoir

After much encouragement from my fellow colleagues - I have decided to write a book. I have several books to write actually. The misinformation printed about me and put on the internet is what motivates me to expose the truth. There has not been a single reporter that has reported the facts accurately. And, the garbage that is posted on the internet on "blogs" by persons that have no knowledge is why I am going to publish my own accounting of my life.

http://rosaliebolinsettingtheecordstraight.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2010-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&updated-max=2011-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&max-results=3

Her wonderful husband's 1st victim.

Teri Lynn Mathews was last seen alive on 12/05/86. She was believed to have been abducted in the vicinity of the Land O’ Lakes Post Office, where she had a post office box. Her car was found in the parking lot of the post office, with the engine running and the driver’s door open. Her mail was found scattered on the ground. Her body was found raped, stabbed and bludgeoned to death.

http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/f181/oscar-r-bolin-death-row-case-summary-7964/

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« Reply #1436 on: May 13, 2011, 01:28:33 AM »

I was restless so Im sharing my evening thoughts:   I gotta say Nancy Grace handled Bozo constantly bringing her show in court mockingly very well tonight.   She stuck it right to him showing his appearances on the show... be careful what you ask for Bozo 

This is what I dont get about the defense, it is like that old saying "do as I say, not as I do."   They have whined for now years about the media & accused the State of "leaks" (to us its called discovery) yet they have gone on several media tours attempting to taint the jury pool & get their own face time for their own self-servant reasons.   Their joint effort with CBS 48 Hours was a shameful attempt to taint the potential jury pool with a "mock trial" inandofitself.  They dont even have the sense to realize that every time they bring this up, their own appearances come right back to slap them in the face.   That being said, the State has done no media whatsoever other than to announce the indictment which was brief & to the point.

To further this debacled defense they bring on a previously fired "mitigation specialist" who just happens to be married to a serial killer!   Why is she even there, seems to me all she is doing is laughing it up with the defendant whenever the defense attorneys are at sidebar or in chambers.   What happened to the other mitigation specialist that was seeing Casey for a long time, did she go by the way side when Lyon left (cant remember at the moment).

This whole idea of presenting that Casey killed Caylee by "accident" is a farce, if that were the case they would have taken a plea no later than when she was indicted for felony murder.  I cannot see how its even remotely possible that she accidentally killed Caylee, had to go thru the steps of deciding what to do with her (that's key) & then that the very same evening she went to Blockbuster with her boyfriend & spent the night watching murder movies, screwing & laughing the night away....no way.  Then why did she get lucid just long enough to finish disposing a body, nuh uh not plausible.   If she was suffering from PTSD then why was she consciously avoiding her parents & making up stories to Amy that she was going to move in with her because she was getting her parents house.   No, she had a bigger plan problem is she's not as bright as she thinks she is.  The probability of her fear is a non issue  because she never had to return to that home again or face her parents as an adult, in fact she could have asked for protection....its a huge lie & a massive misstep by the defense.  She may have feared her parents but she told NO ONE, not even her current boo that she obsessed over.  We remember what Casey said in her first phone call from jail "I got arrested today on an F'in whim,"  not "OMG, my daughter is missing, please help me find her," never that.   If she takes the stand, she's toast because there is no way she will be able to contain her lies or her demeanor & will never hold up on cross examination...its like putting a ticking time bomb in the middle of the court room.

The sexual abuse allegation will just not be believable due to all of her other lies, she will not come off sympathetic in the least.  Regardless, it may come out at trial that she made those accusations when she was manipulating Jesse and then Tony.   She has a pattern pulling out that allegation when she gets in a jam, she felt that they would feel sorry for her & they wouldnt get rid of her like the used rag she is.   Her jail letters come off as if she's just piecing it together that she had suppressed this trauma....which proves the lie because she used that allegation twice before during vastly different time frames indicating that she had full knowledge of what she had told others previously before writing to her jail friend.    Go ahead and use it Bozo & company...then you wonder why I refer to you as @$$hats!

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« Reply #1437 on: May 13, 2011, 01:38:47 AM »


More than you would ever want to know about her...............

Wife stands by Bolin for his 8th murder trial

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/10/04/Hillsborough/Wife_stands_by_Bolin_.shtml

His picture -

http://florida.arrests.org/Arrests/Oscar_Bolin_2136479/

n 1996, via a telephone ceremony, Oscar Ray Bolin married Rosalie Martinez.

Martinez, now Rosalie Bolin, worked for the Hillsborough County Public Defender's Office as a death penalty mitigation expert.

Long before the marriage, rumors of the romance abounded in courthouse and jail circles.

The public defender's office removed Rosalie Bolin from Oscar Ray Bolin's case because she was spending too much time on it, at the expense of other cases. She also was banned from the Hillsborough County Jail after detention deputies saw her caressing Bolin's neck and Bolin was found with a love note from her, prosecutors have said.

http://skcentral.com/news.php?readmore=650

Married to a murderer, 9-to-5 on the side of killers

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/08/08/Columns/Married_to_a_murderer.shtml

Oscar Ray Bolin Jr. aka "NEEDLES" Bolin was convicted of killing three women in the Tampa Bay area. Bolin has confessed to at least two other murders in Florida for which he has not been convicted. He is also the main suspect in muders which ocurred in Texas and Ohio. Bolin was serving time for rape when he was charged with the murders in Florida.

http://www.supernaught.com/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=204
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« Reply #1438 on: May 13, 2011, 01:40:13 AM »

Married to a murderer

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mostpopular/story/Married-to-a-murderer/fq9Aks9gske4brbimtO4yA.cspx
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« Reply #1439 on: May 13, 2011, 01:42:37 AM »

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Oscar Ray Bolin was convicted of 2nd degree murder in the death of 25 year-old Natalie "Blanche" Holley. Bolin is looking at 22 years in prison for the 1986 Florida crime. Tampa Bay Online reports that, “Since Holley's death, however, Bolin has been convicted of six other felonies: another murder, kidnapping, rape, aggravated battery on a law enforcement officer, escape and conspiracy to kidnap…Regardless of Bolin's sentence for Holley's death, he has a death sentence for the murder of Teri Lynn Matthews and is serving a 75-year prison sentence on the kidnapping and rape charges.”


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http://www.pdiblog.com/2005/10/crossing-line.html
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