Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL/JURY SELECTION- DAY 9- 5/18/11

[tupelohoney]

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I think I see her say something like.....you do it, just do it.  I want it done, yes.   

[Sassycat]

Correct me if I'm wrong, because I probably am, but I thought that once jury selection began that any offer made previously would then be taken off the table. And if that's the case, there can be no plea deal in the works.

you are correct.....once the jury is sworn in any pleas deal is null and void.

I need to brush up on law.....I always thought you could plea until the jury came back with the verdict. I am still so pizzed about the stunt today UNLESS it's a plea, but I did see her upset and taking death breaths, her eyes were red and she was teary but she seemed more settled....so maybe she fired Bozo. That is the only other thing that made sense to me as I re-watched the last vid from today.

    Wouldn't that be something else!   Hadn't thought about that option, IM.

[cookie]

Can any observant monkeys check out this video clip starting at about 11:27. I see Jose (basing it on the color of his jacket and his ring) coming over to talk to Casey. She seems to tell him to Go Away. Does anyone else see this?
http://www.wftv.com/video/27938803/index.html

I enlarged it, it seems like Mason's large ring on right hand with red stone, that's speaking to her.

Brandi~

Can you get a screen shot of the hand with the ring on the chair, I believe it is Mason speaking with casey at the 11:25 mark.

Thanks for the clarification!!

I believe that is Mason's hand/ring.

yes..that is what I thought too

[Gypsy DD]

Does anyone find it curious that the trademark thing came about today as well as this unexplained delay? Maybe Baez was going to try to stop Cindy and George's efforts for the trademark, or the two were connected in some other way.

I keep thinking about the letter yesterday where KC looked upset. I thought that might be the trademark news, and so maybe today Baez was attempting to legally respond in some way?

Why wouldn't they have done this long ago? As for images, how many pics have been already provided to the media by the family for $'s?

My opinon why now and not earlier..because this is to drive home a point to Miss Casey..the bus ain't rolling over them. 

Their feelings are they supported her through life, through Caylee's life ..but they will not take the rap for Caylee's death by being seen as abusive parents.
That hit a nerve for them..finally.

[nikkibnurse]

Ok, So it's FogHorn's ring.... I thought it may be too blingy for Bozo....LOL..So,with that bein' said, and us deciphering that Casey said "do it", would it change the meaning of her statement , I wonder? I mean, it would be more serious, it would seem, if she were saying it to Bozo rather than Mason, wouldnt it? What do yall think?

[CookieMonster]

It was Mason.  If you look at 11:58-11:59, you see a flash of gray/white hair as he leans forward to sit.  I don't know how to post a screenshot, maybe someone else can.

[Missiontoconvict]

Good Evening Monkeys!

May be as simple as they finally foreclosed on his house, put all of his belongings on the curb and padlocked the doors. I sincerely hope that if they did, it came a flood before he could get there.

Sink or swim

[crazybabyborg]

I suppose she could be saying to jar, "Do it. Just do it", meaning "Take over the lead! Get rid of Baez!"

[Samarie]

Does anyone find it curious that the trademark thing came about today as well as this unexplained delay? Maybe Baez was going to try to stop Cindy and George's efforts for the trademark, or the two were connected in some other way.

I keep thinking about the letter yesterday where KC looked upset. I thought that might be the trademark news, and so maybe today Baez was attempting to legally respond in some way?

Why wouldn't they have done this long ago? As for images, how many pics have been already provided to the media by the family for $'s?

My opinon why now and not earlier..because this is to drive home a point to Miss Casey..the bus ain't rolling over them. 

Their feelings are they supported her through life, through Caylee's life ..but they will not take the rap for Caylee's death by being seen as abusive parents.
That hit a nerve for them..finally.

I bet all sorts of venders have been setting up shop in Orlando. The impression was that the trial's opening statements were going to start yesterday. Maybe even the A's were disgusted by all they've seen in town this past week...

[cookie]

Correct me if I'm wrong, because I probably am, but I thought that once jury selection began that any offer made previously would then be taken off the table. And if that's the case, there can be no plea deal in the works.

you are correct.....once the jury is sworn in any pleas deal is null and void.

Wow..not in my state ..the plea was denied prior to the jury..yes that plea is off the table..however that does not stop her from requesting her attorneys to request a plea deal at anytime prior to trial.  That's the way it is in my state..and I would think anywhere...the state offers a plea..you don't have to accept..but up until the trial begins you can offer to plea..rather the state and defense can agree is another story.  But here..most plea deals aren't struck until the 11th hour before the trial itself begins and after the jury has been chosen. 

GDD, I wasn't sure so I asked a defense atty in Orlando just to make sure.....I thought pleas could be made until the trail started.  here's the exact words in response to my question: if a plea deal is on the table but it is off the table once a jury is sworn in

wouldn't that mean the previous plea deal would be off the table? so no chance of any plea once the jury is sworn in? that seems different than what I heard today..my head is swimming after this day though so who knows...
but she could still take the plea now since a jury has not been sworn in yet..

[crazybabyborg]

It was Mason.  If you look at 11:58-11:59, you see a flash of gray/white hair as he leans forward to sit.  I don't know how to post a screenshot, maybe someone else can.

I agree. It's Mason. Not a close up, but another shot of Mason with his ring. Same hand, same ring:

[islandmonkey]

Baez Says "Private Matter" Led To Early Court Dismissal
Posted: 5:28 am EDT May 18, 2011
Updated: 4:18 pm EDT May 18, 2011

PINELLAS COUNTY, Fla. -- Judge Belvin Perry unexpectedly dismissed court on Wednesday after returning from an extended lunch recess on day 9 of Casey Anthony's murder trial.

"Mr. Mason, have you had an opportunity to discuss the matter with Ms. Anthony?" Perry asked.

"I have, Your Honor," Mason said.

"Anything you need to add?" Perry asked. "OK, this court will be in recess until 8:30 tomorrow morning."

<snipped>

http://www.wftv.com/news/27933910/detail.html

If a plea deal was in the works ... why would the judge imply that jury selection would resume tomorrow morning?

Janet

JMO~but IF a plea deal is in the works I agree with Klaas and what she stated....BUT, I thought he said we'll resume and didn't mention what they would be resuming?? Clueless and pizzed at this point.

ETA ~ ::justice2NJ:: JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE

[Kat_Gram]

Baez had such a chit eating grin on today, he is pulling some sort of underhanded sneaky crap.. just like he did yesterday when the judge to the bailiffs to bring them in to be sworn and Baez started with his challenges.. he's a dangerous momo 

Something other than a plea deal or the copyright of the name.
Baez isn't going anywhere.
Where has big red azz Bolin been this week ?
Is someone getting let go ?
I don't know, Baez wanted a continuance and he might have to get it by filing a motion against CJBP for the way the jury selection is being handled. Maybe KC's rights have been violated in some manner.

[wreck]

I found this (a case in Florida where plea bargaining was apparently okay DURING the actual trial:

 ::snipping2::

.....the state offered Davis a plea to the
substantive offense for five years concurrent and coterminous
with the probation violation sentence. Davis, however,
rejected the offer and proceeded to trial. During trial, the
parties attempted to resolve the case with a plea bargain.
Over the state’s objection, Davis accepted the court’s offer
of four years in prison concurrent and coterminous with the
probation violation sentence in exchange for a guilty plea.......

[crazybabyborg]

One of things that makes this so hard to figure is trying to determine what it could be that would require the lead atty to facilitate! I would think filing a legal motion could be done by staff in his office.

I have a question: This is an Orange County case. If Baez wanted to file an interlockutory about jury selection, would he have to file it in Orange County?

JP went home tonight.

[Gypsy DD]

I think she's saying "do it".

Now I'm leaning towards Bozo left to file a motion against the Anthony's.
Casey is not happy with their copywriting plans and she wants to quash it.

That's what I am thinking Curly.

[CookieMonster]

Same video as "just do it", ICA has a long one-on-one talk with the new lawyer from 8:44-11:25.  It's interesting to watch her facial expressions as she's talking.  You can tell she's kvetching/gossiping about something.  She keeps talking while the new lady is trying to walk away.
http://www.wftv.com/video/27938803/index.html

[crazybabyborg]

I found this (a case in Florida where plea bargaining was apparently okay DURING the actual trial:

 ::snipping2::

.....the state offered Davis a plea to the
substantive offense for five years concurrent and coterminous
with the probation violation sentence. Davis, however,
rejected the offer and proceeded to trial. During trial, the
parties attempted to resolve the case with a plea bargain.
Over the state’s objection, Davis accepted the court’s offer
of four years in prison concurrent and coterminous with the
probation violation sentence in exchange for a guilty plea.......

Wreck! I started to post that I thought a plea deal could be reached even during trial but didn't want everyone to know how dumb I was for thinking it!   

[strawberry thunder]

I do think the defense is enjoying some optimism bolstered by the Farming Church Lady. The first phase has to be unanimous and she worries me.

me too...me too

Remind me again why she wasn't stricken by the state?

[wreck]

I found this (a case in Florida where plea bargaining was apparently okay DURING the actual trial:

http://www.3dca.flcourts.org/opinions/3d01-3451.pdf

 ::snipping2::

.....the state offered Davis a plea to the
substantive offense for five years concurrent and coterminous
with the probation violation sentence. Davis, however,
rejected the offer and proceeded to trial. During trial, the
parties attempted to resolve the case with a plea bargain.
Over the state’s objection, Davis accepted the court’s offer
of four years in prison concurrent and coterminous with the
probation violation sentence in exchange for a guilty plea.......