Caylee Marie Anthony - MURDER TRIAL - PRE-TRIAL 5/21-5/23/2011

[Cappuccino]

I have noticed she is getting braver and braver in court - She very well may demand to take the stand to "tell her side of the story."  I can't wait............hehehe

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yes she needs to feel she is in control of the way things are going...its going to be fascinating tomorrow when Bozo speaks...there will be alot of "BOMBSHELLS"

I look forward to that ounce of stupidity because she will get crucified on the stand & it will open the door to let in the little that the defense has managed to keep out of the trial.  Also, there is no history of mental health examination prior to Caylee's murder.   Her own mother insisted that she was healthy & had no mental health issues to the FBI investigators during an interview so anything and everything the defense brings in as "subjective" will not be backed up in her previous history.   Any "expert" that comes in to state what Casey's issues are would be offering theories to fit an excuse or mitigating factor after the fact (the murder) versus a preexisting condition.  I have to maintain being confident that the jurors will be able to get thru the muck & realize it is nothing but a bunch of bunk.

[pharlap]

After hearing/seeing all Casey's lies, who in the world believe anything she says?
Cry wolf (lies)99 per cent of the time....so to speak
 

[ShariVari]

KC has never said in any interviews with LE that there was an accident.
Before Caylee was found, it was Zanny the Nanny, and she has never utterered another peep about it.
So, now that the baby was found and there was the duct tape and the chloroform, how can they talk their way out of that.
If she had told this story of an " accident " before, it would never have gone this far.
LE had no choice but to investigate and the State had no choice but to lay the charges and lay them high based upon what the investigation revealed. She is not being persecuted.
They decided to brazen it out and hope that Caylee was never found.
I don't know if she will get the DP, but she isn't walking away with just a few years like she might have two years ago or right after Caylee was found.
She is a victim of a bad lawyer and bad legal advice.

ITA with everything here, except that Casey is a victim.  If she is getting bad legal advice, I am guessing that she deserves it.  Casey, Karma is a Biotch and so are you!

[Kimmy53]

How in HE// did I miss this:   http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/07/was-casey-anthony-molested.html

This says what I said when it happened............"George has just shined as a sexualized narcissist himself. His daughter is in jail and he addresses her as "gorgeous"? Then, the release of letters showed us even more of his sexualized behavior. His daughter is in jail, facing lethal injection, and George obsesses about her "beauty" and her appearance, worried that she is getting fat?

This is a red flag for sexual abuse. The father not only uses terms that upset parents, but the focus of his letters is on Casey's physical appearance, and his desire to see her, if only for a moment, or, perhaps, if only by a "glance" in the courtroom"

I just wanted to point out that there's also a phone convo Casey has with Lee from jail where he calls her "Darling" in a totally gross lovey way.  It seems to me that none of the Anthonys really know how to properly treat one another, and then they come across looking totally creepy when their emotions are totaly "off" in public. JMHO.

I agree ShariVari!  I have known families before who treat each other as crap (to put it mildly) and when they try to act civil to each other in  public, it comes off as fake or totally "out there" -  I believe they really don't know how to interact without the argueing, fighting etc.

[flamom]

Good Morning Monkeys!  ::justice2NJ::

The anticipation is INTENSE!!
I have TTV on and the host Ryan whatsi his name said he spent 7 thats right 7
hours interviewing Bozo..WTF?? didnt he have the most important case of his career and a clients life on the line????? What the heck happened to preparation? doing your homework? no wonder it took so long to pass the bar...   

[Cappuccino]

Very telling phone call about who Casey thinks about from summer of 08.
 

http://www.wftv.com/video/16991942/index.html

This jail call speaks volumes & I hope the entire call is heard at trial.

[Cappuccino]

KC has never said in any interviews with LE that there was an accident.
Before Caylee was found, it was Zanny the Nanny, and she has never utterered another peep about it.
So, now that the baby was found and there was the duct tape and the chloroform, how can they talk their way out of that.
If she had told this story of an " accident " before, it would never have gone this far.
LE had no choice but to investigate and the State had no choice but to lay the charges and lay them high based upon what the investigation revealed. She is not being persecuted.
They decided to brazen it out and hope that Caylee was never found.
I don't know if she will get the DP, but she isn't walking away with just a few years like she might have two years ago or right after Caylee was found.
She is a victim of a bad lawyer and bad legal advice.

ITA with everything here, except that Casey is a victim.  If she is getting bad legal advice, I am guessing that she deserves it.  Casey, Karma is a Biotch and so are you!

That too, she's acting like a paralegal in her own defense so she's perfectly aware & lucid enough to have realized that she may not be getting represented sufficiently....too bad, so sad.    Casey is no victim, she is a narcissistic sociopath predator.

[Northern Rose]

everyone is saying that they think Casey will take the stand, she is so good at not telling the truth and sounding convincing i wonder if she will sway the jurors

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she is good and she is very quick on her feet in lying..however, Jeff and Linda will cut her to shreds if she dares to get on the stand..
 
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i sure hope so, she is arrogant enough to take the stand...did anyone see the clip of the judge asking Baez and Casey if they were satisfied with the jury and she said something like most of them or something didnt catch it but she was not happy with some of the jurors

I have noticed she is getting braver and braver in court - She very well may demand to take the stand to "tell her side of the story."  I can't wait............hehehe

When JP asked her if she had was able to participate and was happy with the process you will see Bobo telling her exactly what to say and she repeats him.  I will see if I can find the clip 

[Gypsy DD]

I have a feeling that by the time the State is done with their opening statements some members of the jury will be in absolute tears..and others will be angry as he//.

If the State hits the ball out of the park during the opening Statements, and I have every reason to believe they will, the defense will have to start mitigating at once..and I believe they will.  If they go after George that will be a huge error on their part.  George testified before the GJ...he is not going to recant that testimony at this point and he isn't going to soften it either if Baez blames him a sexual or physical abuse defense.

[luvmyboys]

I saw it. She said something like with objections. Cause remember baez had some objections. And baez told her to say with objections..

[Curly]

I saw it. She said something like with objections. Cause remember baez had some objections. And baez told her to say with objections..

Yeah, they were "vigorously" objecting to the jury on the last day of jury selection.
Guess Bozo doesn't think they picked the perfect jury for his Casey in distress.

[luvmyboys]

Lol and he got VIGOROUSLY DENIED

[trimmonthelake]

http://www.wftv.com/news/27985618/detail.html
Legal Analyst Previews Casey Trial Opening Statements
Posted: 10:14 pm EDT May 22, 2011Updated: 12:08 pm EDT May 23, 2011
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WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said the 12 jurors deciding Casey's fate will hear some of the most important remarks of the entire trial.

He said the defense will likely try to explain Casey's bizarre actions, while the state will focus on the emotional side of the case.

"I think it will be a pretty dramatic opening for the state. I imagine the state will want to put a face on little Caylee... they'll show those darling pictures of her," said Sheaffer.

Sheaffer also said they'll play the 911 call where Cindy Anthony talks about smelling a dead body in Casey's car, and lay out their forensic evidence against her.
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[alagary]

At about the middle of the page, the jury will be able to smell a sample from the car.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gkbK0Wxf_xUpvJqv4qqD8LC6ncjA?docId=947d73c68ca3450b90e554a96b411e84

[ShariVari]

After listening to Baez and the Badens and Geraldo it seems to me they are going to try and go with an accident of drowning and she just panicked and that is where the BS is going to come in and say because she was so afraid of her parents blah blah blah that's why she lied and didn't tell any one.  If that was the case why didn't she say that at the beginning and take the plea deal. Why sit 3 years in jail if it was an accident even neglect.  That's what it sounded like to me any way.

i think so too

I don't think any of the jurors will buy it. NO ONE that is not trying to hide the method of death drives around with their dead child in their trunk. Even if she were afraid of her parents she would not have gone to such lengths to cover up the death and this also where the 31 days partying ruins the excuse. She was not afraid enough not to go in and out of that house all that time, so HOW would she know they would not come home? She also saw George and talked to him on their "secret" phones throughout that time. And Cindy talked to her everyday according to her and many of the records.

not only that but the fact that she had been using the same excuse (Caylee is with with the nanny) for a long time before this is a good indication something else had been going on for a loooong time.  If you take the accident theory on it's face, then there was at least some neglect and probably abuse going on before this.  Where was Caylee all the times that Casey said she was with the nanny.  We know where she ended up when she was last with the nanny.  There is a lot of time that Caylee's whereabouts really are unaccounted for if you take into consideration all the times the family says Casey talked about Caylee being with the nanny.  I don't think it is a far leap to assume wherever she was wasn't a good place or appropriate.  Her story and behaviors after Caylee's death seem very consistent to what was going on BEFORE Caylee's death.  I wouldn't be swayed that this is a person who panicked after an accident.  Her behavior didn't really change.  She had MORE freedom but it seemed that she was doing the same things she did before, just without any concern for little Caylee.  She still went to bf's houses, she still got tattoo's, she still partied.  The only difference was instead of Caylee coming back from the nanny's - she didn't.

ITA with the above and it made me wonder again why Casey didn't give up her custody to Cindy long ago. Sure, Casey could've been concerned about what friends would think but she still could've lied and said her parents were babysitting or something. ITA with the fact that CAylee was used as a pawn between both ICA and Cindy, but sometimes I think that Cindy wasn't as willing to take over the parental rights as she claims now.  What did she say when Casey wanted to go out and wanted Cindy to babysit?  My guess is that she said no to CAsey many times and when she wanted to go out.  I think that Cindy calling 911 and acting concerned about Caylee was somewhat truthful, but like others have said, more concern should've been coming from Caylee's grandparents from the start and we wouldn't be where we are now.  Just thinking out loud here, but maybe Cindy was somewhat resentful because Caylee was George's or Lee's daughter.  Just a thought.

[ShariVari]

How in HE// did I miss this:   http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/07/was-casey-anthony-molested.html

This says what I said when it happened............"George has just shined as a sexualized narcissist himself. His daughter is in jail and he addresses her as "gorgeous"? Then, the release of letters showed us even more of his sexualized behavior. His daughter is in jail, facing lethal injection, and George obsesses about her "beauty" and her appearance, worried that she is getting fat?

This is a red flag for sexual abuse. The father not only uses terms that upset parents, but the focus of his letters is on Casey's physical appearance, and his desire to see her, if only for a moment, or, perhaps, if only by a "glance" in the courtroom"

turbo, I agree with you on this one.  I am inclined to believe that there may have been sexual abuse and not by Lee.  Things would make some sense if this was the case.  I know Casey lies and that isn't why I tend to believe it but rather the other things put forth, like above.  I know some things are unexplainable and inexcusable, especially what happened in this case, but her actions at least after the fact would make some sense to me if G was the father.

IIRC, Mallory was pregnant with Lee's child right?  Or am I imagining that those two had a baby together?

[Puzzler]

How in HE// did I miss this:   http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/07/was-casey-anthony-molested.html

This says what I said when it happened............"George has just shined as a sexualized narcissist himself. His daughter is in jail and he addresses her as "gorgeous"? Then, the release of letters showed us even more of his sexualized behavior. His daughter is in jail, facing lethal injection, and George obsesses about her "beauty" and her appearance, worried that she is getting fat?

This is a red flag for sexual abuse. The father not only uses terms that upset parents, but the focus of his letters is on Casey's physical appearance, and his desire to see her, if only for a moment, or, perhaps, if only by a "glance" in the courtroom"

turbo, I agree with you on this one.  I am inclined to believe that there may have been sexual abuse and not by Lee.  Things would make some sense if this was the case.  I know Casey lies and that isn't why I tend to believe it but rather the other things put forth, like above.  I know some things are unexplainable and inexcusable, especially what happened in this case, but her actions at least after the fact would make some sense to me if G was the father.

It would make a lot of sense in the realm of family secrets and why everyone tried so hard to keep KC quiet. I have never gotten past her statement when she was first arrested when she said " Don't worry I haven't told them anything." I think that was to let the Anthonys know she was not only not telling LE the family secret but at that time not bozo either.

Cindy from the beginning has tried to keep the focus off of KC - anytime anyone asked about her and would she do such a thing, she would get angry with them and go off on one of her tangents. That told me in the beginning they were hiding a lot. A grandparent really interested in finding their granddaughter would tell any and everything they knew to help find her. That is the reason I have been convinced from the beginning that Cindy and George KNEW Caylee was dead and went into cover up mode. IMO they were not tying to protect KC so much as protect themselves. Tomorrow the horse will be out of the barn, and there will be no going back for them. ISPY was right in his preemptive strike idea, but I can assure you that will never happen. They still believe that KC will not give them up and more than anything I hope the cameras focus on them when bozo is making the opening statements. We all know there will be that look of "gotcha ya" on KC's face but I really want to see them. I have a feeling there is something on Cindy too that KC is hiding. I don't believe the monkeys here will be shocked about anything that comes out but I would bet the general public will.

KC told Lee of the huge fight on Father's Day with Cindy - Cindy strangled Casey - that's going to come out in court, IMO!!

[ShariVari]

Does anymonkey remember the professional porno pictures of Casey that were circulating the internet?  The one I saw is clearly a photo of ICA giving a guy a you-know-what-job.  It's a closer up of her face (and it's totally her, I have 20/20 vision and can guarantee it was her) as the picture is totally clear.  I remember it because I posted it on a topix forum under my name and it came up when I did a Google search for myself!  I reported it to topix and it got taken down, but I definitely think that if ICA was letting people take pics of her in compromising positions like that, she could've definitely been working as an escort.  This can help to explain the multiple cell phones, too.

[cookie]

How in HE// did I miss this:   http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/07/was-casey-anthony-molested.html

This says what I said when it happened............"George has just shined as a sexualized narcissist himself. His daughter is in jail and he addresses her as "gorgeous"? Then, the release of letters showed us even more of his sexualized behavior. His daughter is in jail, facing lethal injection, and George obsesses about her "beauty" and her appearance, worried that she is getting fat?

This is a red flag for sexual abuse. The father not only uses terms that upset parents, but the focus of his letters is on Casey's physical appearance, and his desire to see her, if only for a moment, or, perhaps, if only by a "glance" in the courtroom"

turbo, I agree with you on this one.  I am inclined to believe that there may have been sexual abuse and not by Lee.  Things would make some sense if this was the case.  I know Casey lies and that isn't why I tend to believe it but rather the other things put forth, like above.  I know some things are unexplainable and inexcusable, especially what happened in this case, but her actions at least after the fact would make some sense to me if G was the father.

IIRC, Mallory was pregnant with Lee's child right?  Or am I imagining that those two had a baby together?

no baby..
Caylee was the only grand child and still is/was as far as I know..

[SunnyinTX]

Morning to all. It is interesting to see some of the 'old stuff' dug up and batted around again. As well as some of the opinions...whether I agree with them or not, it's interesting to reread. I am confident the State have their ducks in a row. the opening statements are going to be some of the most anticipated opening statements EVER! It's interesting to listen to the various attorney's give their opinions on whether or not she will take the stand. Two of the attorneys I most admire are on opposite sides of will she/won't she...interesting to see who will be right. OK back to taking care of what I need to and will be right here tomorrow morning.