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« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2007, 09:55:30 PM »

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... from a terrorism risk it's the Canadian border which is the far greater risk. radical muslims slip through the western Canadian border at will, far more often than choosing any peril passing through Mexico. Obviously these terrorists know who their friends are.

This is unsubstantiated garbage.  If you (and another poster) are going to present these wild statements as facts - list your reliable sources.   You won't find any - just other people retelling the same lies.



I don't appreciate our Department of State being referred to as "garbage" nor accused of making "wild statements" most especially by foreigners who attack other posters constantly.  

All of this is readily available with even the most cursory google search.  One just can't miss it as there are literally hundreds of well-documented articles on just this very subject.

Here is but one but it is a pretty complete one:

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Last week, the U.S. State Department released the 2005 edition of its annual "Country Reports on Terrorism" document, and the chapter dealing with the Western Hemisphere provides some interesting insights when the entry on Canada is compared to that for Mexico. For example, the report states: "Terrorists have capitalized on liberal Canadian immigration and asylum policies to enjoy safe haven, raise funds, arrange logistical support, and plan terrorist attacks." There is nothing even vaguely resembling such an indictment in the section on Mexico, which notes: "The Mexican government worked closely with the United States on all aspects of counterterrorism security and prevention."

 
 
Threats to the United States

On several occasions, Canada has been a point of entry for people who posed specific threats to the United States.

Some may recall the case of Ghazi Ibrahim Abeu Mezer, a Palestinian who was convicted of plotting a suicide bombing against the New York subway system in 1997. Mezer, who had been granted political asylum by Canada, reportedly was stopped by U.S. authorities twice while trying to enter the country illegally. His first two attempts to cross the border were made only days apart, in June 1996 (Mezer was jogging across the border when he was stopped the second time). His third attempt came in January 1997, when he was stopped at a Greyhound bus station in Bellingham, Wash., along with two other Arabs, after a successful border crossing.

At that point, Mezer was detained and, though he agreed to return voluntarily to Canada, the country refused to accept him upon release from U.S. custody, since he was not a citizen. What happened next involves a maze of legal technicalities: Abu Mezer was eventually released on bond and applied for political asylum in the United States. While that request was pending, he moved to Brooklyn. He later agreed to depart the United States voluntarily, in August 1997. His plans for a suicide attack against the New York subway system, however, were to have been carried out in July -- a month before he was required to leave the country -- had it not been for a roommate who got cold feet and tipped off police to the plot the night before it was to have occurred. Mezer and a co-conspirator, Lafi Khalil, were arrested in an early-morning raid at their apartment, where police found bombs assembled and ready for deployment.

The Millennium Bomb Plot

The best-known terrorism cases involving movement across the Canadian border are, naturally, related to al Qaeda. Most prominent among these is the so-called "millennium bomb" plot, for which Ahmed Ressam was arrested. Ressam is a textbook example of someone who, in the words of the recent State Department report, "capitalized on liberal Canadian immigration and asylum policies to enjoy safe haven, raise funds, arrange logistical support, and plan terrorist attacks."

In 1994, Ressam entered Canada under false pretenses, using a poorly altered French passport to fly from France to Montreal. When Canadian immigration officials confronted him about the document, Ressam admitted that the passport photo had been altered and then immediately claimed political asylum, saying that he had been tortured in Algeria because he had been accused of arms trafficking and other terrorist activities. Immigration officials released Ressam while a hearing on his asylum claim was pending -- but he never showed up for the hearing, and his asylum claim was later denied.

Ressam later testified, at his trial in the millennium bombing case, that he supported himself from 1994 to 1998 with petty theft and welfare payments he received from the Canadian government, as a potential refugee. By his own account, he was arrested four times for theft; other criminal activities involved credit card, financial and document fraud. During those years, Ressam also acquired an authentic blank baptismal certificate, which he completed and used to obtain an authentic Canadian passport.

In early 1998, Ressam flew to Pakistan and then was taken across the border into Afghanistan, where he trained at al Qaeda's Khaldan facility. There, he learned a range of skills, including training in small arms and urban warfare as well as surveillance techniques, document fraud and bomb-making. In 1999, after nearly a year of training, Ressam returned to Canada and began making preparations to carry out an attack against the United States. In fact, his return flight to Canada stopped over in Los Angeles; while waiting in the airport there, he hit upon the idea of targeting LAX.

Although several of the men who reportedly had planned to assist Ressam in the millennium plot were not able to gain entry to the United States or Canada, Ressam managed to cobble together a team of acquaintances -- many of whom were seeking refugee status while living in Canada -- to aid his project. Mokhtar Haouari, a friend and fellow Algerian asylum-seeker living in Montreal, provided financing and agreed to be a communications link with Ressam's partner in the United States, Abdelghani Meskini. In November 1999, Ressam flew to Vancouver, where another Algerian asylum-seeker, Abdelmajid Dahoumane, helped him rent a hotel room. There, the two men brewed the explosives that Ressam later attempted to smuggle into the United States via ferry -- traveling from Victoria, British Columbia, to Port Angeles, Wash. Ressam was cleared by U.S. immigration in Victoria but was arrested by a U.S. Customs inspector as he was preparing to exit the ferry, and the plot was eventually outed.

Jihadist Connections

The post-9/11 annals of terrorism history contain several other mentions of Canadian citizens who have been arrested by the United States or allied countries. These include:


Abdurahman Khadr, a member of a fairly notorious family who was captured in Afghanistan and imprisoned for a time at Guantanamo Bay. He is now living in Toronto. Khadr's father, Ahmed Said Khadr, allegedly served as a finance and logistics operative for al Qaeda and, before his death in a Pakistani counterterrorism operation in 2003, reportedly had close ties to Osama bin Laden. Some of Ahmed Said Khadr's other sons also are embroiled in criminal cases: Omar Khadr remains imprisoned at Guantanamo for killing a U.S. medic in a grenade attack in Afghanistan; Abdullah Khadr -- who is in Canadian custody while an extradition request is pending -- has been indicted in the United States for conspiring to kill U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan, conspiracy to use weapons of mass destruction, and conspiracy to possess a destructive device to commit violent crimes.


Mohamed Mansour Jabarah, who was born in Kuwait but raised in St. Catherine's, Ontario. Jabarah has pleaded guilty to several charges in connection with a foiled plot to bomb U.S. embassies in Singapore and Manila. The plans had been hatched prior to the 9/11 attacks but were not discovered until after the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan. Jabarah reportedly was a key link between al Qaeda leaders in Afghanistan and Jemaah Islamiyah (JI) operatives in southeast Asia; he is said to have delivered cash from al Qaeda to JI leader Hambali, who is believed to have planned the 2002 Bali nightclub bombings. Jabarah initially was arrested in Oman in 2002 and sent to Canada. He then was sent to the United States and reportedly is cooperating with American officials.


Mohammed Momin Khawaja, who was born in Canada to Kuwaiti parents and has lived in Ottawa. Momin Khawaja is believed to have been an important link between New York-based Mohammed Junaid Babar and a group of co-conspirators in London, who were planning a string of attacks there. Babar was identified as a potential problem following the 9/11 attacks, when he made threats against the United States on a Canadian television program. Momin Khawaja is the first person ever charged under Canada's Anti-Terrorism Act -- which is in itself significant, since the attacks he allegedly was planning would not have been carried out on Canadian soil.


The recent State Department report labels several more people who are living in Canada as known or suspected terrorists. These include Mohammed Mahjoub of the Vanguards of Conquest, a radical wing of Egyptian Islamic Jihad; Mahmoud Jaballah, a senior member of the Egyptian Islamist organization al-Jihad and al Qaeda; and three suspected al Qaeda members.

In a very recent case, former Canadian resident Ehsanul Islam Sadequee has been accused of conspiring with a Georgia Tech student, Syed Haris Ahmed, to attend a militant training camp in Pakistan and planning terrorist attacks against targets in the United States.

Ahmed was indicted in April on charges of conspiring to provide material support for terrorism. Sadequee was interviewed at JFK International Airport in August 2005 before boarding a flight bound for Bangladesh and thus far, it is believed, has not returned to the United States. Federal authorities since have filed an affidavit supporting an arrest warrant for Sadequee that provides great detail about the allegations in the case.

The affidavit claims that Sadequee -- a U.S. citizen who attended high school in Ontario -- made false statements to FBI agents when he was interviewed about a March 2005 trip to Canada. Sadequee told the bureau he had traveled alone, but the FBI had evidence that he and Ahmed had been traveling together. The purpose of the trip, according to the affidavit, was to meet with Islamist "extremists" in Canada. Ahmed reportedly said during his interview that they discussed possible targets for a terrorist strike in the United States, such as oil refineries, military installations and the global positioning system, and made plans to attend a military training camp in Pakistan.

The affidavit also notes that three people Ahmed and Sadequee met with in Toronto are subjects of an FBI international terrorism investigation (and thus, presumably, were under the scrutiny of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and CSIS.) Also, Ahmed and Sadequee reportedly traveled from Georgia to Toronto and back via bus. Though they still had to pass through immigration and customs inspection points, the security procedures applied to bus passengers are far less intensive than those used by the airline industry.

Conclusion

In the grand scheme of things, suspects like Ahmed and Sadequee can be viewed as examples of grassroots jihadists -- part of the evolution of al Qaeda from a focused organization to a looser ideological movement. Such jihadists are not likely to be major players in the international terrorism scene -- but as illustrated by cases such as "shoe-bomber" Richard Reid, London rail attacks cell leader Mohammed Sidique Khan or Ahmed Ressam, they still are capable of causing significant, though localized, damage.

Jihadist sympathizers who attend training camps like those in Pakistan or Afghanistan often become further radicalized, and -- history has shown -- frequently become involved in the planning or execution of a terrorist attack upon leaving such institutions. This is why the FBI sought an arrest warrant for Sadequee; charges of making false statements are not very significant, but federal authorities clearly believe Sadequee has gone overseas for training and they want to have a reason to detain him if he returns to the United States.

Though the affidavit filed in Sadequee's case contains many interesting details, there also are several significant omissions. For example, it gives no indication as to the current location or activities of the Toronto men who were the subject of the FBI terrorism investigation. It is not clear whether federal authorities believe any of them have traveled overseas with Sadequee to seek training, or whether they have remained in Toronto to "capitalize on liberal Canadian immigration and asylum policies" while fleshing out plans for potential attacks.

That, at its core, is likely the best explanation of why the Canadian border is so frequently overlooked in discussions of immigration and U.S. border security. American concerns about the southern border with Mexico are deeply rooted in geography, history and culture and are, at bottom, sovereignty issues -- whereas the threats that have emerged from Canada are embedded in a more liberal political system.

Stated differently, the security risks to the United States arising from Canada are not so much products of fundamental, structural issues as they are the outgrowth of political attitudes and preferences. As a result, these security concerns tend to command less emotion and attention -- but they are, for all of that, no less real.
 
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I believe you owe Nonesuche an apology as well as that other poster whom you attempted to smear without even naming.

Just for good measure, here are a few more references to Canada and the Terrorist threat that it poses:

1.)  If terrorists are being bred in Canada — of all places — and crossing the US-Mexico border is easier than crossing a busy intersection at rush hour, then we have a real problem--and it ain't the Mexicans.

America remains a glaring target for terrorist attacks, yet the security of our borders amounts to a red carpet for the terrorists. We might as well execute attacks on ourselves. Border security is one of the very few "no duh" issues that Americans will encounter during the course of their lives. Thus, the debate is wasted.

It's bad enough that we have to worry about our own "homegrown Jihadists." We should not have to worry about someone else's as well.

http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/06/06/203848.php

2.)  It is your professional opinion that terrorists have gone through Angle Inlet into the mainland United States?
[DALLAS BLOCK, SHERIFF, LAKE OF THE WOODS COUNTY]: Yes, it is.

TUCHMAN: And that’s through intelligence you have?

BLOCK: Yes. We have pretty accurate, pretty reliable intelligence that that has happened. I don’t think Osama bin Laden’s going to check in there, but. So you’re really on your honor system.

http://tinyurl.com/224c6a


3.)  I am certainly not about to pay Canada Press for this article but maye you have access without paying, being Canadian and all that.
U.S. again brands Canada terrorist haven
Canadian Press

Ottawa — Canada has been branded a "favoured destination for terrorists and international criminals" by the research arm of the U.S. Congress. Generous constitutional freedoms, weak law enforcement and lightly patrolled borders have made the country an inviting place for dangerous extremists to set up shop, says a new report by the Library of Congress in Washington.
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4.)  Mention border security and illegal immigration to someone and the border between the United States and Mexico likely comes to mind. But what about the U.S. border with Canada?

With the recent arrest of terrorist suspects in Canada, we decided to take a look at border security in the area near Buffalo, New York. U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials say that in terms of cars and trucks it is the busiest crossing on the northern border. Only about two hours from Toronto, millions of vehicles enter Buffalo from Canada through a number of bridges in the area. Checkpoints are in place for those vehicles. But the border itself in that area is all water. Securing it, as we found out, can be difficult.

The U.S. Coast Guard, Sector Buffalo patrols a 600 mile stretch of the coastline, which is just a small fraction of the roughly 4,000 mile long northern border. The unit took us along to give us a sense of what it's like on the front lines of this nation's border defenses.

Outside of Buffalo, the Niagara River separates the United States and Canada by less than a mile in some stretches. Coast Guard boats patrol the river for everything from boaters in distress to safety violations; they also look for smugglers and terrorists.

They say one of their most difficult tasks is trying to spot suspicious behavior in these waters due to the traffic of pleasure and commercial boats. They tell us that people have tried to slip through the border by using this waterway -- some use little boats, others use life jackets, many try to cross using a cloudy morning or the darkness of night as their cover.

While the number of illegal immigrants trying to get through the northern border is much smaller than on the southern border, the job of securing the Canadian border is coming under increasing scrutiny with the recent arrest of 17 terror suspects in Toronto.

Some terrorism experts say there are two main reasons to be concerned about the possibility of terrorists slipping through our border with Canada. One reason is the terrain. Because the border is made up of vast stretches of water and forest, it is nearly impossible to seal.

The second reason is that Canada has more lenient laws than the United States when it comes to political asylum. The Canadian ambassador has denied that claim. But some experts say Canada's recent arrests should get our attention. They say a problem in Canada could easily become a problem in the United States.
Posted By Mary Snow, CNN Correspondent: 5:39 PM ET
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5.)  Canadian border open to terrorists: terrorists have exploited Canada's lax immigration laws to plan and execute attacks against the United States. Is the Canadian government taking corrective action? - SPECIAL REPORT: U.S.-Canada Relations - John Manley - Statistical Data Included

Kenneth R. Timmerman
The United States has a problem with terrorists who have found safe haven to the north. In the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks on the United States, the Canadian government is seeking to enact a new antiterror bill that would enhance police powers, define acts of terrorism, crack down on money-laundering and allow preventive detention of individuals suspected of belonging to a terrorist network.

The new legislation is referred to in Canada as Bill C-36. But to terrorism experts it is better known as the Ahmed Ressam Act of 2001, after an Algerian-born disciple of Osama bin Laden who eluded Canadian authorities for more than five years and was caught, only by chance, just two weeks before a planned attack intended to kill hundreds of Americans.

Ressam, trained in bin Laden's camps in Afghanistan, has become known in the United States as the "Millennium Bomber." But to government officials in Ottawa he is worse than just a terrorist: He has become the face of Canada's failure to confront terrorism.

"The issues surrounding [Ressam's] ability to operate in Canada have been addressed," Canadian Foreign Minister John Manley boasted to New York City's Foreign Policy Association on Nov. 5. "Do we believe that terrorist sympathizers have operated on Canadian soil? Unfortunately, yes, this is probably the ugly truth -- as it is in the United States, Germany, Britain and many other countries around the globe."

The French judge who pursued Ressam across the Atlantic to his safe haven in Canada warned that the bin Laden-trained terrorist was extremely dangerous and bent on mayhem. But the Canadian government didn't seem to care. It refused to act on a Rogatory Letter -- a formal, 40-page arrest warrant sent by the French judge on April 7, 1999 -- that spelled out his violent crimes in minute detail.

Sensing that Ressam was preparing to act, the French judge and the head of the French counterespionage service paid a high-profile visit to Ottawa in October 1999. Yet Canadian authorities refused to arrest the suspect. "The Canadians have been less than forthcoming," French terrorism judge Jean-Louis Bruguiere told INSIGHT laconically in a recent interview in Paris.

Canada has a problem and the government in Ottawa knows it. Lax immigration and political-asylum laws have made America's neighbor to the north a safe haven of choice for international terrorists of bin Laden's al-Qaeda network. But while the government now seeks to close some of the legal loopholes, it may be too late.

The Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) claimed in a report released in May 2000 that it was watching some 50 terrorist organizations and 350 "individual targets," but that liberal policies governing foreigners claiming political asylum prevent them from cracking down. In that report, CSIS Director Ward Elcock noted: "With perhaps the single exception of the United States, there are more international terrorist groups active here than in any other country in the world."

Although none of the 19 hijackers who carried out the Sept. 11 attacks came through Canada, there is mounting evidence that bin Laden has established a spider's web of support networks to America's north. These networks raise money, acquire valid travel documents for would-be terrorists, provide backup for operational cells and, in the case of Ressam, serve as the staging ground for attacks on the United States. Until now terrorists have been able to come and go in Canada as they please.

Rene Mercier, a spokesman for Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC), the equivalent of the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service, says Canada now posts immigration-control officers overseas "to check out foreign sources of forged documents" used to apply for immigration visas. "Since 1995," he tells INSIGHT, "we have denied entry to 35,000 people who have shown up at ports and airports with improper documents."

The important thing, he adds, was to catch people who posed a potential security risk before they entered the country. "Once they gain entry, they're in"

Ressam was picked up by U.S. Customs agents on Dec. 14, 1999, five years after he faked a claim for political asylum. When he drove off the car ferry from British Columbia, an alert officer at Port Angeles, Wash., became suspicious from his nervous behavior and poor English. She ordered Ressam out of his car; then the terrorist tried to flee. A search of his rented Chrysler turned up 130 pounds of explosives, homemade detonators and plans of the Los Angeles International Airport stashed in the spare-tire compartment of the trunk.

The Canadians never alerted U.S. authorities that Ressam was about to cross the border, and his name was not on any U.S. watch list. "He was arrested totally by chance," Bruguiere says. "The Canadians knew about him two months earlier, but they let him slip through their fingers. If your Customs people hadn't been lucky, there would have been a major attack in America, with many dead."

Ressam told U.S. prosecutors he was planning to blow up the Los Angeles airport as part of a broader plot to wreak havoc in the United States during the millennium celebrations. He had picked it as a target because he had flown through Los Angeles on a return flight from Pakistan. "An airport is sensitive politically and economically," the terrorist told a New York court last July.

He said he had been trained in explosives, sabotage and assassination techniques in a camp near Khalden, Afghanistan, run by a Palestinian named Zeineddin Abu Zoubaida, identified by French intelligence in 1998 as a deputy to bin Laden. He returned to Canada from Afghanistan with small amounts of hexamine, a chemical that boosts fertilizer bombs, and plans for mixing explosives from commercially available fertilizer and nitric acid.

Despite detailed information presented to the Canadian government on two separate occasions in 1999 by the French, Ressam never was arrested or even questioned. And he was just one of a much broader network of bin Laden associates who found safe haven in Canada thanks to lax immigration and refugee laws.

Another accomplice, Bouabide Chamchi, was arrested by U.S. authorities after driving across the Canadian border into Vermont on Dec. 19, 1999. Chamchi was accompanied by a 35year-old mother of three from Montreal named Lucia Garofalo, whom U.S. prosecutors tied to more Afghan-trained Arabs who had gained asylum in Canada. They were planning separate millennium-night attacks.

In Brooklyn, police picked up 31-year-old Abdel Ghani and accused him of providing "material support" to the plot. Ghani's name and phone number were in Ressam's pocket when he was arrested. Through Ghani, police found 29-year-old Abdel Hakim Tizegha, another cell member who had sought refuge in Canada. He was arrested on Dec. 24, 1999, after sneaking across the U.S. border through the bushes near Blaine, Wash.

An even more important member of the bin Laden terror networks, Fateh Kamel, had obtained Canadian citizenship. The French managed to grab him -- not with any help from Canada, but only after they learned from their own sources that he was in Saudi Arabia and planning to cross the border by car into Jordan to commit a terror attack.

"I informed the Jordanian authorities and they arrested him as he tried to cross the border," Bruguiere says. Then the French judge went to Amman, Jordan, and got the Jordanians to extradite Fateh to France where he was convicted of plotting a terrorist conspiracy.

But neither Bruguiere nor the Direction de la Surveillance du Territoire (DST), the French equivalent of the FBI, got such cooperation from the Canadians. Instead, their appeals were ignored.

"There have been many changes since Sept. 11," says Canadian immigration board spokesman Mercier. "We have become more vigilant. Going through the border now is more difficult; we ask more questions. But we have to achieve a balance. We are not going to shut the door to legitimate political refugees, only to people with bad intentions," he tells INSIGHT.

Distinguishing between the two is a form of art the Canadians do not appear to have mastered. "We have an appallingly out-of-control immigration and refugee situation," David Harris, the former chief of strategic planning at CSIS, told Maclean's magazine recently. "We've seen the legacy of that in the Ressam case." Ressam originally claimed refugee status when he first arrived in Canada in 1994 but was turned down. Despite that, he stayed in Canada illegally.

Mercier tells INSIGHT that Canada will not expel Algerians caught in Canada illegally because they could be subject to persecution in their native land. A similar policy applies to natives of Afghanistan.

Under existing law, no security check of foreigners applying for refugee status is carried out until after they have been granted refugee status. Citizenship and Immigration Minister Elinor Caplan has proposed changes which are expected to become law by the end of the year, but clearly has put the focus on attracting new immigrants, not screening those already in Canada.

Mercier believes "terrorism is not an immigration problem. When you've got people fancy enough to do 9/11, you're not talking about your average refugee claimant." Nevertheless, he adds, "as soon as we get information on a specific case of someone who is believed to be a threat, we take action."

In the case of Ressam, Mercier hinted that the information from Bruguiere never had been passed on to Canada's immigration authorities. So INSIGHT called the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP), who would have been responsible for serving an arrest warrant on Ressam. "Certainly I've heard that the French judge and the head of the DST came here, but they never came to us," says Leo Monbourquette, an RCMP spokesman in Montreal who handled the investigation after Ressam's arrest in the United States.

He suggested we try the Ministry of Justice. There, a spokesman explained the complexity of the Canadian system, which requires that valid extradition requests be presented to a Canadian court to determine if the proof would be sufficient to convict the suspect had his crime been committed in Canada. "If the court agrees, then the extradition request goes to the Minister of Justice, who again listens to both sides in the case before issuing an order of surrender," spokesman Patrick Charette tells INSIGHT. "In the meantime, the suspect can appeal the decision all the way to the [Canadian] supreme court. It can take years."

Bruguiere first learned about Ressam in 1996, three years before he sought his arrest in Canada. The judge was investigating a terrorist cell that came to be known as the "Roubaix Group," after the suburb of the northern French city of Lille where they assaulted a police station using AK-47 automatic rifles and RPG-7 rocket-propelled grenades.

"The Roubaix Group committed acts of an extreme violence we rarely see," Bruguiere says. "After fleeing the police station, they turned their automatic weapons on the driver of a passing car, slaughtering him in cold blood. A few weeks later, they held up an armored car, blowing a huge hole in the side with an RPG-7 rocket. They supported themselves through holdups."

It was a pattern that Ressam and other bin Laden operatives would repeat in Canada and elsewhere as they resorted to credit-card fraud and petty theft to support terrorist activities.

Eventually, the Roubaix killers holed up in a safe house, where they were assaulted by a French SWAT team. The gun battle was so fierce, Bruguiere recalls, that it set the house on fire. "In the cinders we found the charred corpses of four of the terrorists."

Two members of the cell escaped and crossed the French border into Belgium, where they got into a fresh gun battle. Belgian police officers killed one of them, a Bosnian Muslim. The other, Omar Zemrime, was arrested carrying fake Canadian, Turkish and Belgian passports. As Bruguiere did his detective work, he traced Zemrime to other bin Laden operatives in Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and China -- and to Ressam in Canada, who was one of the "live links" to bin Laden's command headquarters in Afghanistan.

U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft and his Canadian counterpart, Lawrence MacAulay, met in Washington on Oct. 2 and promised to tighten border security to prevent terrorist infiltration. Both countries pledged to increase the number of agents at ports and airports, as well as the border guards who are responsible for patrolling the 4,000-mile shared border.

The United States currently has 965 INS personnel at the northern border and some 9,000 on the border with Mexico, and has asked Congress for funds to hire an additional 550 Border Patrol agents, many of whom now will be moved to the north. Canada has asked for an additional 100 immigration officers to complement the current force of 560, whose job is to examine the 110 million travelers and refugee claimants who cross Canada's borders each year.

Canada's proposed new antiterrorism bill now is before the Canadian Parliament. It can be viewed on the World Wide Web at www.canada.justice.gc.ca/ en/terrorism/index.html.

http://tinyurl.com/yukwyg

 

KENNETH R. TIMMERMAN IS A SENIOR WRITER FOR Insight MAGAZINE.

COPYRIGHT 2001 News World Communications, Inc.
COPYRIGHT 2001 Gale Group


As I said, Google is just full of examples of terrorists in Canada and the fact that Canada poses a far greater threat in this regard than Mexico.

Calling reports promulgated by our Department of State "garbage" is just not acceptable coming from a citizen of the offending country and I really do think you should apologize to both Nonesuche and this mystery poster whom you refuse to name and seek to smear by innuendo as well.

Every poster here has been not only fair to Canada but actually very kind and some have gone out of their way to be kind, in fact.  Thanks for reminding me why that is a big fat wasted effort!  Think of what could have been said but wasn't about all that poisoned dog food we just got from where?  Mexico, I guess.  And I usually don't do research for people too lazy to do it themselves but this is just too easy for it's everywhere.  All Americans know it, too.  

Personally, I would rather have the Mexicans any day if this is an example of what Canadians are like!  And that's basically the official U.S. Policy as well.  Humm, something to think about there I do believe.

At the least, you could check out for yourself what's out there that someone might be referring to instead of labeling anything that doesn't fit in with your ego/agenda as garbage.  You evidently are very ignorant on the status of your own country with regard to terrorism.  This does not give you the right to cast aspersions on others, however.  


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