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« Reply #460 on: September 23, 2013, 03:43:45 PM »

per this,see qoute,has me looking at whats what,and ending up questioning why TMH,would
not use a door on kyrons classroom floor to exit building
Quote
Desiree says that TMH was at the east door,and there is a wall and she dosent think
TMH could see the hall from there, kaine agrees
@ about 9:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xudmj4Oqco

supposedly,TMH,went up this stairwell A,to take kyron to his class,and could not see past a wall
i think you have to make a right,to continue up stairwell,B and B2,is close up of wall, C is longview
down hall from east to west
A

lg img
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t166/ubrmel/SKYLINE%20SCHOOL/WESTsideDOOR.jpg
B

B2

lg img
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t166/ubrmel/SKYLINE%20SCHOOL/IMG_20130922_063724_zps07274c42.jpg
C

lg img
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t166/ubrmel/SKYLINE%20SCHOOL/LOOKINGinEASTdoor.jpg
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when you go into the school from the south entry,img A, and you go up stairs,this is 
where you would be,see img B
notice the wall at the west entry stairwell,why wouldnt TMH just go to the east,or south doors
to leave the building,instead of going back down the stairs, and leave out what door?

A

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http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t166/ubrmel/SKYLINE%20SCHOOL/FrontDOORlookingIN_edited-1.jpg

B

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http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t166/ubrmel/SKYLINE%20SCHOOL/IMG_20130922_063724_zps07274c42.jpg

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« Reply #461 on: September 23, 2013, 04:08:24 PM »

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« Reply #462 on: September 23, 2013, 04:43:57 PM »

At approximately 10:00 AM on June 4, 2010 ...Andrea Leckey affirms Terri Horman's claim that Kiara was not well.  However ... less that two hours later ... after allegedly driving rural roads ... Terri is at the gym working out for an hour.  Did any 24-hour Fitness employee testify at a Grand Jury hearing that a sick Kiara was at the establishment? 

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August 17, 2010 11:19 AM
Kyron Horman Update: Witness Saw Stepmother Day 7-Year-Old Vanished


A woman who spoke with Kyron Horman's stepmother the day the 7-year-old disappeared shared her story with the Multnomah County grand jury last week, calling part of the encounter "odd."

Kyron vanished June 4 following a science fair at Skyline Elementary School.

That same day, between 9:30 and 10 a.m., Andrea Leckey ran into his stepmother, Terri Horman, at a Fred Meyer Department store in Beaverton, west of Portland. Lecky said it was the longest encounter they ever had.

During the conversation, Leckey said Terri mentioned just coming from the science fair at Skyline School, even showing her a picture of Kyron.

"The only thing that I think was significant about that time is that she showed me a picture of Kyron next to his project," said Leckey according to CBS affiliate KOIN. "I think the thing that seems odd about it perhaps is that we were just passing each other by and in a few seconds, with her daughter being sick in her arms, made a point to show me the picture."

Leckey formerly worked as a manager at Terri Horman's gym where they spoke to each other frequently, but always briefly.

At the time of their Fred Meyer encounter, Leckey said she was being polite and making chit-chat because she knew Horman's daughter was not feeling well.

"Did she seem different? Did she seem out of the ordinary? I can't say that she seemed any different to me than any other day," said Leckey.

<snipped>

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20013828-504083.html


Sources detail Terriís timeline day Kyron disappeared
Published: Jul 23, 2010 at 7:17 PM PDT Last Updated: Jul 24, 2010 at


PORTLAND, Ore. - According to multiple sources, Terri Moulton Horman claims she left Skyline School at 8:45 in the morning without Kyron the day he disappeared and that between 8:45 a.m. and 10:10 a.m. she ran errands at local grocery stores and can prove it.

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Between 10:10 in the morning and 11:39, Terri claimed she drove her daughter Kiara around on rural roads in the familyís white truck because Kiara had an earache. She claimed she was trying to soothe the toddler with the motion of the vehicle.

At 11:39 a.m., Terri checked in at a 24-hour Fitness in Beaverton on Waterhouse Avenue and worked out for about an hour until 12:40 p.m.

By 1:21, Terri claimed she'd traveled home - a distance of nearly 11 miles - and was posting photos on Facebook she'd taken that morning of  Kyron standing with his science project and of his friend, Kurtis, standing with his.

Sources said she also e-mailed the teacher to find out when she could come pick up the project as she had not taken it home.

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http://www.katu.com/news/local/99151549.html
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« Reply #463 on: September 23, 2013, 05:06:13 PM »


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Desiree says that TMH was at the east door,and there is a wall and she dosent think
TMH could see the hall from there, kaine agrees
@ about 9:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xudmj4Oqco


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cw618 ... your are amazing!!  Thank you!

If Terri stated to investigators that she did not enter Kyron's classroom as Desiree claimed ... the question presented by Dr. Phil is huge ... the question "WHEN did Terri take the photo of Kyron in front of his display?"

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« Reply #464 on: September 23, 2013, 05:32:30 PM »


per this,see qoute,has me looking at whats what,and ending up questioning why TMH,would
not use a door on kyrons classroom floor to exit building


Quote
Desiree says that TMH was at the east door,and there is a wall and she dosent think
TMH could see the hall from there, kaine agrees

@ about 9:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xudmj4Oqco


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cw618

Could it be that 8:45 AM was the moment in time that Terri left the building unnoticed through a back door and ... according to my theory ... handed Kyron over to another person who was parked out of sight nearby?

Think about it.  Less than one hour later ... Andrea Leckey had what she perceived as an "odd" encounter with Terry at at a Fred Meyer Department store in Beaverton.  Leckey states to the GJ that "it was the longest encounter they ever had."

Janet

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Kyron Horman disappearance: Skyline school parents and students will be interviewed Sunday
June 05, 2010 at 9:57 PM, updated June 18, 2010 at 4:59 PM

<snipped>

The stepmother said she last saw Kyron at about 8:45 a.m. walking down the hallway toward his classroom, according to a sheriff's office news release.

It was not clear, however, whether Kyron, like every other student in the school, then participated in a classroom-to-classroom inspection of other science projects.

Parent-led groups of about four students walked among the classrooms, said Gina Zimmerman, president of the Skyline PTA.

"You were supposed to stay with your group," Zimmerman said. "I don't know what group he was in."

However, the sheriff's office news release says school staff did not see Kyron after 8:45 a.m. and that he did not make it to his classroom.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/search_for_missing_portland_bo.html
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« Reply #465 on: September 23, 2013, 06:52:52 PM »

The revelation by Desiree on Dr. Phil that Terri's story regarding the morning of June 4, 2012 did not include a visit to Kyron's classroom ... Kyron's classroom where his project was located ... leaves some unanswered questions regarding when the last photo of Kyron was taken.  Could it be that the little girl and person with a checkered shirt that was captured in the background provide the answer?

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« Reply #466 on: September 23, 2013, 06:54:08 PM »

Are the two images below the same photo?  IF they are the same photo ... why does one reveal Kyron's arm and the other doesn't?

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« Reply #467 on: September 24, 2013, 12:11:57 AM »

per this,see qoute,has me looking at whats what,and ending up questioning why TMH,would
not use a door on kyrons classroom floor to exit building
Quote
Desiree says that TMH was at the east door,and there is a wall and she dosent think
TMH could see the hall from there, kaine agrees
@ about 9:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xudmj4Oqco

supposedly,TMH,went up this stairwell A,to take kyron to his class,and could not see past a wall
i think you have to make a right,to continue up stairwell,B and B2,is close up of wall, C is longview
down hall from east to west
A

lg img
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t166/ubrmel/SKYLINE%20SCHOOL/WESTsideDOOR.jpg
B

B2

lg img
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t166/ubrmel/SKYLINE%20SCHOOL/IMG_20130922_063724_zps07274c42.jpg
C

lg img
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t166/ubrmel/SKYLINE%20SCHOOL/LOOKINGinEASTdoor.jpg
 ----------------------------
when you go into the school from the south entry,img A, and you go up stairs,this is 
where you would be,see img B
notice the wall at the west entry stairwell,why wouldnt TMH just go to the east,or south doors
to leave the building,instead of going back down the stairs, and leave out what door?

A

lg img
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t166/ubrmel/SKYLINE%20SCHOOL/FrontDOORlookingIN_edited-1.jpg

B

lg img
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t166/ubrmel/SKYLINE%20SCHOOL/IMG_20130922_063724_zps07274c42.jpg

ubrmel's Library/
SKYLINE SCHOOL
http://s160.photobucket.com/user/ubrmel/library/SKYLINE%20SCHOOL

TY bluetilt and ubrmel










I'm not clear on what you are saying.
I'll just clarify images and repost here (I did put descriptions on image titles and in description on photobucket)
(All are looking through the doors)

East entrance (2013) you can see all the way down the hall to the stairwell that goes down to the West Entrance


East entrance (7/2010) same as above


Front entrance of school (2013) go up to 2nd level, go down to lower level. To the Left is west,to the right is East.


Front entrance of school (7/2010)



West entrance (7/2010)
Walk up stairs to lower level, walk up another flight to get to second level (brings you right next to Classroom 213)


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« Reply #468 on: September 24, 2013, 04:29:26 PM »

BOTTOM LINE

Kyron Horman disappearance: Skyline school parents and students will be interviewed Sunday
June 05, 2010 at 9:57 PM, updated June 18, 2010 at 4:59 PM


The stepmother said she last saw Kyron at about 8:45 a.m. walking down the hallway toward his classroom, according to a sheriff's office news release.

<snipped>

However, the sheriff's office news release says school staff did not see Kyron after 8:45 a.m. and that he did not make it to his classroom.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/search_for_missing_portland_bo.html
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« Reply #469 on: September 24, 2013, 05:25:39 PM »


If Terri implied to investigators that she did not enter Kyron's classroom as Desiree claimed ... the question presented by Dr. Phil is huge ... the question "WHEN did Terri take the photo of Kyron in front of his display?"

Janet

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... and when was the picture of Curtis taken?

Janet

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Sources: Terri Horman vague on Kyronís doctor appointment date
Jul 21, 2010 at 8:38 PM PDT


<snipped>

Kim Holmís son, Kurtis, who Terri Horman photographed with his science project around the time she took a picture of Kyron that morning, said her son knew about the appointment too. ...

At 1:21 that afternoon Terri Horman posted the science fair photos on her Facebook page.

<snipped>

http://www.katu.com/news/local/98981009.html


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« Reply #470 on: September 24, 2013, 05:27:34 PM »

Thanks cw618

I was hoping a video would emerge of the entire Desiree/Kaine interview with Dr. Phil.

Janet

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The Desiree/Kaine Dr. Phil Interview

Dr. Phil Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xudmj4Oqco

Dr. Phil Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkicnZndc0s

Dr. Phil Part 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFgQRPA7u6o

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« Reply #471 on: September 24, 2013, 05:50:06 PM »

Could it be that Michael Cook is a piece of the puzzle ... the puzzle encompassing the disappearance Kyron Horman?

Think about it.  Less than three week following the disappearance  of her stepson and four days following Kaines departure with her daughter ... Terri Horman was sexting with a friend of her husband ... a friend that she just recently met.

Something is hinky.  A caring mother is not being reflected.

Janet

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Kyron's father wants step-mom Terri to leave home sooner
Posted on July 14, 2010 at 10:48 AM
Updated Thursday, Jul 15 at 6:09 PM


<snipped>

The motion also states police told Kaine that Terri exchanged hundred of text messages with Cook and several photographs of Terri Horman "in various stages of undress and graphic sexual activity." According to the filing, the "sexual nature" of the relationship between Cook and Terri Horman began on or about June 30, four days after Kaine Horman moved out of the family's Northwest Portland home.

Cook was a high school classmate of Kaine Horman, and also helped organize the first vigil for missing 7-year-old Kyron Horman.

Monday's court filing also stated that police had told Kaine that Terri's "sexual overtures to Mr. Cook resemble those made to the man Respondent (Terri Horman) attempted to hire to murder Petitioner (Kaine).

In an interview with KGW on Monday, Cook admitted that he had used his cell phone to photograph the sealed restraining order, and that he had engaged in "sexting" with Terri Horman.

Cook also admitted having "inappropriate communication" with Terri Horman but he denied having sexual relations with her. "I never slept with her," Cook told KGW.

Cook did admit that he had Googled Kaine Horman's new address on his cell phone.
"She wanted to find out where Kiara was," Cook told KGW.

"I'm a pretty straight shooter," said Cook. "I didn't have sex with her."

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http://www.kgw.com/news/Court-doc-Kaine-Terri-Horman-kyron-horman-contempt-sexting-98270654.html




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« Reply #472 on: September 24, 2013, 07:36:57 PM »

Are the two images below the same photo?  IF they are the same photo ... why does one reveal Kyron's arm and the other doesn't?

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The right arm in the second photo is actually a copy of the left arm flipped horizontally. (The shading looks exactly the name but flipped)

They probably felt it looked like he had no arm when they cropped him out of the background so they edited it so the "missing" arm wouldn't be distracting.

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« Reply #473 on: September 24, 2013, 07:39:31 PM »

Oh and they also copied/flipped the sleeve also. (You can see it juts out exactly the same as the left side - different/more than in the originally photo)
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« Reply #474 on: September 24, 2013, 07:45:10 PM »

MICHAEL COOK

Kaine Horman describes how Terri Moulton Horman 'vented' after flunking her polygraph
July 16, 2010 at 9:48 PM
updated July 23, 2010 at 10:13 AM


In his responses sent late Friday, Kaine Horman touches on the strife in his marriage, his belief that a third party was involved in his son's disappearance and how he is now coping with being a single father

<snipped>

Q: What are you reactions to this week's developments in court documents, which said Terri Horman had struck up a relationship with your high school friend, Michael Cook, and was sexting him days after you moved out and filed for divorce?

A: We will deal with the issue as part of the legal matters in front of us, it does not even approach the priority of finding Kyron so we will deal with it then.  I have only seen Michael Cook recently since high school, which was during the week after Kyron when missing, so I cannot really comment on any relationship we had. We had just gotten reconnected and were trying to figure all that out.

I am not aware that Terri had met Michael prior to Kyron's disappearance

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http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kaine_horman_describes_how_ter.html
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« Reply #475 on: September 24, 2013, 07:48:45 PM »

Oh and they also copied/flipped the sleeve also. (You can see it juts out exactly the same as the left side - different/more than in the originally photo)

Samantha ... where is the arm in the image of Kyron taken in front of his project?

Thanks

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« Reply #476 on: September 24, 2013, 07:57:10 PM »

Samatha ... I looked and looked and looked and looked in my attempt to find a difference (other than missing arm) between the two images.  I missing the sleeve and ... the flipping of the left sleeve and arm would never have entered my mind.

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« Reply #477 on: September 24, 2013, 07:59:48 PM »

Self-edit

and ... the flipping of the left sleeve and arm s/b and ... the flipping of the right sleeve and arm ...
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« Reply #478 on: September 24, 2013, 08:20:00 PM »

Are the two images below the same photo?  IF they are the same photo ... why does one reveal Kyron's arm and the other doesn't?

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The right arm in the second photo is actually a copy of the left arm flipped horizontally. (The shading looks exactly the name but flipped)

They probably felt it looked like he had no arm when they cropped him out of the background so they edited it so the "missing" arm wouldn't be distracting.



Samantha

I have been thinking.  If the right arm and sleeve from the photo of Kyron in front of the science project had been flipped and photoshopped to Kyron's right side ... would the arm not be positioned away from Kyron body?

Could it be that the photo with Kaine is the original ... the original that was photoshopped onto an image of the science project.  However ... a corner of the shirt and the arm were mistakenly cropped?

Am I making sense.

Janet
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« Reply #479 on: September 24, 2013, 08:22:43 PM »

IDK janet if MC is Connected to kyron, funny though how
close his job is to skyline, and the FM #1 that TMH went to at 9am

Michael Cook
Senior Account Executive at Pinnacle Exhibits
Portland, Oregon Area Marketing and Advertising
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/michael-cook/4/a91/44

skyline school to MC work and TMH FM #1
http://goo.gl/maps/uWBls

Pinnacle Exhibits
22400 NW Westmark Dr Hillsboro,OR97124
http://www.pinnacle-exhibits.com/work/clients
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