Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland, OR #44 4/11/12 - 1/1/14

[grace-land]

Happy Birthday, sweet Kyron! 

Video at link

http://www.kptv.com/story/19501445/kyron-hormans-10th-birthday-passes-as-dad

Kyron Horman's 10th birthday passes as dad presses on
Posted: Sep 10, 2012 9:35 AM CDT Updated: Sep 10, 2012 9:50 AM CDT

PORTLAND, OR (KPTV) -
Sunday marked the 10th birthday of missing child Kyron Horman, who vanished from Skyline School in northwest Portland in June 2010 and hasn't been seen since.

Kyron's father, Kaine Horman, spent Sunday manning a booth at the Sublimity Harvest Festival, selling shirts and buttons to keep the search for Kyron going and to raise awareness about the missing boy.

Kaine Horman said he would celebrate his son's birthday with a cake and some presents with Kyron's half-sister. They live their lives as if Kyron could walk through the door at any moment.

"We miss him tremendously, just like we do every day. I wish he could be here and I wish he could have been here for the past birthdays that he has missed so far. It's time that we're not going to get back that he shouldn't have to miss," Kaine Horman said.
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[grace-land]

http://www.nwcn.com/home/?fId=169240216&fPath=/news/local&fDomain=10202

Terri Horman adds Portland attorney to legal team
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 3:57 PM
Updated today at 7:10 PM

PORTLAND -- Kyron Horman's stepmother is adding a new face to her legal team; Attorney Mark Wagner will help defend Terri Horman in a civil lawsuit.
 
Wagner, from the Portland law firm Hart Wagner, specializes in civil defense work. According to his staff, Wagner was out of the country Monday and not available for comment.
 
Divorce attorney Peter Bunch and criminal defense lawyer Stephen Houze will also continue to represent Terri Horman.
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Kyron's father Kaine Horman confirms he has been called to testify in an upcoming deposition. No trial date has been set in the civil suit.

[klaasend]

New Blink Post - Part I of the 3 part series:

Kyron Horman Disappearance Series Part I: Desiree Young V Terri Horman- Civil As An Oxymoron


http://blinkoncrime.com/2012/09/11/kyron-horman-disappearance-series-part-i-desiree-young-v-terri-horman-civil-as-an-oxymoron/

[can]

yipee...been waiting for it.  Thanks Klaas.  off to BOC 

[MuffyBee]

yipee...been waiting for it.  Thanks Klaas.  off to BOC 

I'm headed that way too!!    

[Puzzler]

Thanks for the link to Blink's new blog entry...wow, what an entry.  I can't wait to read the forthcoming parts II and III.

[cw618]

this is prob not  kyron but, close to portland the remains were found 30 mile east of portland
in west Skamania County, Washougal, WA
http://goo.gl/maps/MNFqC
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Human remains found in SW Wash. brush
 Reported by: KOIN Local 6 staff  Published: 9/28 11:59 am

Editor's note: KOIN has a crew investigating at the scene Friday.

PORTLAND, Ore. -- On Friday the Skamania County Sheriff's Office in southwest Washington released the following statement to KOIN Local 6:

"Human remains were located Sunday afternoon in western Skamania County off Turk Road.  A property owner was bulldozing brush and the remains were located.  A four day site investigation has concluded and the remains have been sent in for forensic work in an attempt to determine the identity and sex of the person. 

http://www.koinlocal6.com/news/local/story/Human-remains-found-in-SW-Wash-brush/P1Ft1zT7jE22QYu6o89GLw.cspx

map from article
http://www.koinlocal6.com/Map.aspx?content_id=d76d513f-fb34-4d8c-b641-8bbaa3cf462f&map=2c4f478e-8231-4c26-b90c-9b5b8e1b150c

[cw618]

Human Remains Uncovered in Skamania County
Human Remains found in Skamania County
September 28, 2012
By: Emily McCarty
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A statement was released today by the Skamania County Sheriff's office in regards to human remains that were discovered near Turk Road in Skamania County.

Chief Criminal Deputy Pat Bond. “We still
have further investigation before we can finalize this case.”
  ::snipping2::
“We anticipate that we will have further information to release on this case within a week”
stated Undersheriff Dave Cox. “Those that were involved with the examination of the
brush covered scene did a miraculous job of recovering evidence that was crucial to this
case, and we are very thankful for their assistance,” he said
http://www.examiner.com/article/human-remains-uncovered-skamania-county

[melisb]

Thank you CW!  Area looks like where Morgan H. was found and even though I want Kyron to be alive I don't think he is.  I get a little different feeling from this article but I am probably wrong.  If he is not with us anymore....please let this be him!  If not, God Bless the family who will find closure finally.  How do you feel about the article?  I think I'm just hopeful that this poor little boy gets to go home.

[cw618]

Thank you CW!  Area looks like where Morgan H. was found and even though I want Kyron to be alive I don't think he is.  I get a little different feeling from this article but I am probably wrong.  If he is not with us anymore....please let this be him!  If not, God Bless the family who will find closure finally.  How do you feel about the article?  I think I'm just hopeful that this poor little boy gets to go home.

i dont understand why  Undersheriff Dave Cox ,or Chief Criminal Deputy Pat Bond
did not ID who,.... those....., are
it seems they would call, The Washington State Patrol Crime Scene Response Team (CSRT)
 

“Those that were involved with the examination of the brush-covered scene did a miraculous job of recovering
evidence that was crucial to this case, and we are very thankful for their assistance,” he said.
http://www.columbian.com/news/2012/sep/28/human-remains-found-skamania-county/

press release from Skamania County Sheriff's office,it reads like the news articles
http://skamaniasheriff.com/1424/press-release/human-remains-located-in-western-skamania-county/

CSRT Capabilities
http://www.wsp.wa.gov/crime/csrt.htm

i looked here and a gen search of the net, for who ....those...  might be/or consulted with
U.S. Law Enforcement Task Force and SWAT Unit Acronyms
http://www.accuracyproject.org/PoliceAcronyms-US.html

[cw618]

i was curious how anyone could access the area,after looking at the Gmap,snooped around
the county gis  and found this info,where it looks like the land is belongs to GLW Ventures LLC
and boarders the Gifford Pinchot NF USDA
after looking at the gis and the topo maps,i searched the co. and found a dispute with the USDA.
if im reading this right it is a dispute with the ,United States Department of Agriculture, U.S. Forest Service
over and about the Conservation Easement Deed,under the Columbia River Gorge Act
 i just skimmed you will want/need to read it for yourself
if you google GLW Ventures LLC,they seem to be all over the country,at least i think it is the same
co.listed in the G search,could be a few co. with same name

a view of the gis plot can be viewed here
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/VcYpNtpp3HvV0SHwWHPQCMxqU01Et13TvFB2EJGBpjromj50qP-pA-_Ih9T2tqh-kOSrlVWzMp9XWL4JbKcgHFwiGmdkkHP64r0gm2NEvMYmFksWd-9s

found this about the GLW Ventures LLC , i got the co. name from the gis site
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/washington/wawdce/3:2012cv05140/182183/
pdf info
Case Information
Case:
GLW Ventures, LLC. v. United States Department of Agriculture, U.S. Forest Service et al
State:
Washington
Court:
Western District Court
Judge:
Ronald B. Leighton
Type:
Real Property: Other
Filing:
25
Filed:
September 26, 2012
Retrieved:
September 27, 2012
http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/washington/wawdce/3:2012cv05140/182183/25/

dirs below to work the gis
http://www.skamaniacounty.org/assessor/assessor/mapsifter/

under legend
check mark
sections
roads
label owner
parcels
aerials
in search search this
72 Sharleen Rd

on this topo you can see where the Gifford Pinchot NF
meets what looks like the mgs i posted b4
http://tinyurl.com/8uj6s64

Gmap of area
http://goo.gl/maps/NuXUA

[melisb]

Thanks Cw, my uneducated guesses would be...1.  this county seems mostly rurual and probably didn't even consider that this case could be part of a bigger case or even to call out the bigger guns and 2. good ol' boys network could have called (kyron's team to Skamania Co.)and said "is this a child and do you need us to come out' and they could have said 'no' and 3. maybe something big is going on because it was evident it was a child but didn't want anyone to get hopes up.  I know, I could read one word 5 million different ways, lol!  Just hoping for an end to the suffering for all who love Kyron. 

Cw, I know none of my business but are you an engineer?  No specifics needed just admire how good you are with the reading of and explaining maps/diagram, etc.!  Your skill is mucho appreciated and admired!

[Sister]

Thanks Cw, my uneducated guesses would be...1.  this county seems mostly rurual and probably didn't even consider that this case could be part of a bigger case or even to call out the bigger guns and 2. good ol' boys network could have called (kyron's team to Skamania Co.)and said "is this a child and do you need us to come out' and they could have said 'no' and 3. maybe something big is going on because it was evident it was a child but didn't want anyone to get hopes up.  I know, I could read one word 5 million different ways, lol!  Just hoping for an end to the suffering for all who love Kyron. 

Cw, I know none of my business but are you an engineer?  No specifics needed just admire how good you are with the reading of and explaining maps/diagram, etc.!  Your skill is mucho appreciated and admired!

[cw618]

no not an engineer, i just like mapping, i know it helps to see where it is ,that the media
are talking about sometimes,happy to do it, your welcome

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2012/10/human_remains_found_near_washo.html

Human remains found near Washougal identified as man missing since 1980
Published: Thursday, October 04, 2012, 4:19 PM     Updated: Thursday, October 04, 2012, 4:27 PM
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Remains found by a property owner clearing brush near Washougal, Wash., are that of a 39-year-old man missing since 1980 who lived about a half-mile away.

Kenneth P. Stovner had been reported missing in April 1980 from his home on Belle Center Road, Skamania County Undersheriff Dave Cox said in a news release. An intense search at the time found no trace of him, Cox said.

[cw618]

found an older vid about the remains found and one of the investigating counties
was Multnomah County,Oregon
nice to know the Multnomah County LE are still looking, even though it didnt
say it was kyron, they were investigating at that scene,id like to think kyron
was part of why they were there

Reported by: Faris Tanyos
Published: 9/28 5:18 pm
http://www.koinlocal6.com/news/local/story/Human-remains-found-on-property-east-of-Washougal/CMjPymolN0Spnauw1ckyVg.cspx

[melisb]

I just don't know what I would do if my loved one disappeared and I never knew what happened. The unknown scares me bad!

[MuffyBee]

I just don't know what I would do if my loved one disappeared and I never knew what happened. The unknown scares me bad!

I know exactly what you mean melisb.  I've tried to put myself in others shoes in that regard, and I just can't begin to imagine.  Everyone minute of the day, every hour, and for some not only day after day, but year after year.    

[Sister]

no not an engineer, i just like mapping, i know it helps to see where it is ,that the media
are talking about sometimes,happy to do it, your welcome

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2012/10/human_remains_found_near_washo.html

Human remains found near Washougal identified as man missing since 1980
Published: Thursday, October 04, 2012, 4:19 PM     Updated: Thursday, October 04, 2012, 4:27 PM
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Remains found by a property owner clearing brush near Washougal, Wash., are that of a 39-year-old man missing since 1980 who lived about a half-mile away.

Kenneth P. Stovner had been reported missing in April 1980 from his home on Belle Center Road, Skamania County Undersheriff Dave Cox said in a news release. An intense search at the time found no trace of him, Cox said.

Hope this bring some peace to his family.

[sassifrass]

http://mobile.oregonlive.com/advorg/db_/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=1cs0A1jO&full=true#display


Terri Horman's friend DeDe Spicher declines to answer any questions about Terri Horman in deposition
Maxine Bernstein, The Oregonian
Posted:  10/23/2012 10:00 AM


Desiree Young's lawyer has filed a motion asking a judge to compel DeDe Spicher, a friend of Terri Moulton Horman, to answer his questions after she refused to answer 142 questions during a deposition he took earlier this month stemming from Young's civil lawsuit against Horman.

Multnomah County sheriff's investigators looking into the disappearance of Kyron Horman, a second-grader who went missing from Skyline School on June 4, 2010, were interested in the whereabouts of Spicher on that day.

Spicher refused to answer any questions posed by Young's lawyers on Oct. 5 that involved Terri Horman, Kyron's stepmom, or Kyron -- each time asserting her Fifth Amendment constitutional right not to incriminate herself.

Spicher also refused to answer questions about where she was on June 4, 2010.

"Are you aware that Kyron Horman has disappeared?" asked Young's lawyer, Elden Rosenthal.

"I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right," Spicher replied,  according to a transcript filed in Multnomah County Circuit Court.

Spicher even declined to identify a photo of Terri Horman, or whether she knew Terri Horman's husband, Kaine Horman , Young, or had ever met Kyron.

Young's lawyer, Elden Rosenthal, asked Spicher about her relationship with Terri Horman, including when she met her, if they ever worked out at the same gym together, if she moved into the Horman home after Kyron disappeared, and whether Terri Horman ever spoke to her about her relationship with Terri's husband or sons, Kyron and James Moulton.

In his motion filed in Multnomah County Circuit Court Monday, Rosenthal asks the court to compel Spicher to answer his questions. Rosenthal argued that the Fifth Amendment provides that "no person...shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself..."

"Plaintiff believes that Ms. Spicher has inappropriately sought the protection of the privilege against self-incrimination," Rosenthal wrote. "The privilege is personal; it cannot be used to protect another person...Otherwise, the privilege could be used as a shield to protect a witness' friends, and to deny a civil litigant probative evidence."

Young's civil lawsuit accuses Terri Horman of kidnapping Kyron and asks a judge to compel her to bring him back, or divulge where his body was taken. The suit seeks $10 million in damages, with the option to seek additional punitive damages, and was filed three days before the two-year anniversary of Kyron's disappearance.

Two years ago, Multnomah County investigators searched Spicher's Tualatin condo, the garden property on Northwest Old Germantown Road where Spicher was working that day and her aunt's address as they sought to determine Spicher's movements.

In 2010, investigators also put out a flier with Spicher's photos on it, asking if anyone noticed her or Terri Horman between 9:45 a.m. and 1 p.m. on June 4, 2010.

On June 4, 2010, Spicher was doing gardening work for a homeowner in the Northwest section of Portland, and abruptly left about 11:30 a.m., when the homeowner and another person working at the home were ready to sit down for lunch. The homeowner tried calling Spicher on her cell phone, but got no answer, and Spicher returned to the house about an hour to 90 minutes later, detectives were told.

Spicher asserted her Fifth Amendment right when asked in the deposition about her actions that day.

No one has been charged in Kyron's disappearance and he has not been located.

Spicher did tell Young's lawyers during her deposition that she moved to her parent's house in Klamath Falls in September 2010 after losing a job. She said she now works for Skylakes Klamath Medical Clinic, helping coordinate patients' referrals to specialists.

Also in her deposition, Spicher said she had been doing a gardening internship for a woman in Northwest Portland in 2010. She identified the man she last was in a relationship with, and even gave her changing weight from the time she ran a marathon in 2008 to her current weight.

 
But Spicher declined to say whether or not she was paid for the work she did on June 4, 2010 at the garden property on Northwest Old Germantown Road home. She did say that she was receiving unemployment benefits at the time.

Rosenthal pointed out that Spicher, who gave an interview to People Magazine for a story that ran Aug. 17, 2010, also wouldn't answer any questions regarding direct quotations from the People interview, or whether she got paid for the interview.

Some of Rosenthal's questions were more probing and personal. He asked Spicher whether or not Terri Horman used steroids, whether or not Terri Horman ever had sex with Kaine Horman's friend Michael Cook who spent time at the Horman house after Kyron disappeared, and if Spicher is bisexual.

Each time, Spicher asserted her Fifth Amendment right, declining to answer..

On June 4, 2010, Terri Horman had driven Kyron to school for a science fair. She told authorities that she last saw him walking down the hall toward his classroom about 8:45 a.m. Kyron never made it there, but he wasn't reported missing until the afternoon, after his father, Kaine Horman, and Terri Horman discovered he wasn't aboard the school bus returning home.

Peter Bunch, Terri Horman's attorney, has characterized the goal of Young's lawsuit as an "end run" by Young and police to obtain information they couldn't get through the criminal inquiry into Kyron's disappearance.

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[cw618]

TY for the update sassifrass

i thought at one time there were pics of dede with the hormans,and she had said
she didnt know kaine or kyron well

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Spicher even declined to identify a photo of Terri Horman, or whether she knew Terri Horman's husband, Kaine Horman , Young, or had ever met Kyron.
http://mobile.oregonlive.com/advorg/db_/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=1cs0A1jO&full=true#display