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sassifrass
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Where are you Kyron?
Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland, OR #44 4/11/12 -
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Quote from: cw618 on October 23, 2012, 02:22:26 PM
TY for the update sassifrass
i thought at one time there were pics of dede with the hormans,and she had said
she didnt know kaine or kyron well
::snipping2::
Spicher even declined to identify a photo of Terri Horman, or whether she knew Terri Horman's husband, Kaine Horman , Young, or had ever met Kyron.
http://mobile.oregonlive.com/advorg/db_/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=1cs0A1jO&full=true#display
You're very welcome.
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The indexed deposition with Dede
.
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/DeDe.PDF
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland, OR #44 4/11/12 -
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http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/10/terri_hormans_friend_dede_spic.html
Comment by a BGinOR:
October 23, 2012
"Spicher refused to answer any questions posed by Young's lawyers on Oct. 5 that involved Terri Horman, Kyron's stepmom, or Kyron -- each time asserting her Fifth Amendment constitutional right not to incriminate herself.
Spicher also refused to answer questions about where she was on June 4, 2010."
She may as well have said she knows where Kyron is but won't tell.
WHERE IS KYRON TERRI MOULTON AND DEDE SPICHER??????
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland, OR #44 4/11/12 -
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Quote from: sassifrass on October 23, 2012, 02:31:52 PM
The indexed deposition with Dede
.
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/DeDe.PDF
Hi Sassi
The link isn't working and I'm very curious about it.
Thank you for keeping us updated. I can't say I'm surprised and I do not believe Dede would go this length for Terri which suggests to me she, Dede, was in some way involved.
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Quote from: Amys Sister on October 23, 2012, 04:02:51 PM
Quote from: sassifrass on October 23, 2012, 02:31:52 PM
The indexed deposition with Dede
.
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/DeDe.PDF
Hi Sassi
The link isn't working and I'm very curious about it.
Thank you for keeping us updated. I can't say I'm surprised and I do not believe Dede would go this length for Terri which suggests to me she, Dede, was in some way involved.
Hold on, let me get that for you.
Go here, at the original news article. When you see the 142 questions in the first paragraph, it will be highlighted. Click on it and it will bring you to the PDF file of the deposition.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/10/terri_hormans_friend_dede_spic.html#incart_river_default
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland, OR #44 4/11/12 -
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I found it. I'm on page 10 of 20. Dear Lord. The questions are telling... about what Desiree believes happened with her baby and about the flawed investigation. LE did not subpoena or even ask for Dede's telephone or computer records even though she had unaccounted time that day.
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Quote from: Amys Sister on October 23, 2012, 04:38:11 PM
I found it. I'm on page 10 of 20. Dear Lord. The questions are telling... about what Desiree believes happened with her baby and about the flawed investigation. LE did not subpoena or even ask for Dede's telephone or computer records even though she had unaccounted time that day.
I know! How idiotic is that? WTH were they thinking, or rather not thinking of? This case has been screwed up from the very beginning. Shame on them.
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland, OR #44 4/11/12 -
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Others have suggested this case may be related to Terri Horman supplying steroids to members of LE. Relatively shortly after Kyron disappeared some officers were accused of using steroids and were either arrested or lost their jobs.
I have to reconsider the possibility. Wouldn't it be horrendous if a member or members of LE were responsible for the disappearance of this little boy?
Sassi, remind me who the retired police officer is that we've all wondered about? The owner of a houseboat, I believe. Do you know?
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Quote from: Amys Sister on October 23, 2012, 04:59:03 PM
Others have suggested this case may be related to Terri Horman supplying steroids to members of LE. Relatively shortly after Kyron disappeared some officers were accused of using steroids and were either arrested or lost their jobs.
I have to reconsider the possibility. Wouldn't it be horrendous if a member or members of LE were responsible for the disappearance of this little boy?
Sassi, remind me who the retired police officer is that we've all wondered about? The owner of a houseboat, I believe. Do you know?
Steve Harmon.
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland, OR #44 4/11/12 -
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October 23, 2012, 05:56:38 PM »
DDS, brother, was involved in construction, when KH disappeared, if my memory serves me correctly
I wonder if the child's remains are on a construction site?
Perhaps, DDS, is covering for more than one person? This is all speculation on my part. IMO
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland, OR #44 4/11/12 -
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Quote from: sassifrass on October 23, 2012, 04:41:52 PM
Quote from: Amys Sister on October 23, 2012, 04:38:11 PM
I found it. I'm on page 10 of 20. Dear Lord. The questions are telling... about what Desiree believes happened with her baby and about the flawed investigation. LE did not subpoena or even ask for Dede's telephone or computer records even though she had unaccounted time that day.
I know! How idiotic is that? WTH were they thinking, or rather not thinking of? This case has been screwed up from the very beginning. Shame on them.
Just to clarify- DeDe has no way of knowing, unless it was shared with her and verifiable proof was presented, what records were or were not subpoened or gained by LE. She responded to the question asked of her, which was if she had ever given LE permission to access, or if she turned them over, etc.
I do not believe for 10 seconds that LE does not have her cell records, and I believe they duped her hard drives on any electronics if they were included in the subpoena to search her residence. Her online account access would also be transparent to LE review if LE had a subpoena for it as well.
I am on record to say that this was a botched investigation unfortunately, but facts are facts..
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland, OR #44 4/11/12 -
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October 23, 2012, 06:03:52 PM »
Quote from: sassifrass on October 23, 2012, 04:41:52 PM
Quote from: Amys Sister on October 23, 2012, 04:38:11 PM
I found it. I'm on page 10 of 20. Dear Lord. The questions are telling... about what Desiree believes happened with her baby and about the flawed investigation.
LE did not subpoena or even ask for Dede's telephone or computer records even though
she had unaccounted time that day.
I know! How idiotic is that? WTH were they thinking, or rather not thinking of? This case has been screwed up from the very beginning. Shame on them.
I now remember daddy was a member of a search team...for another case.
He would have had connections and strings to pull, IMO.
DDS knew she could get away with M, in my opinion.
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland, OR #44 4/11/12 -
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Flashback
Terri Moulton Horman, focus in stepson Kyron Horman's disappearance, shows for divorce hearing
Published: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 2:40 PM
Updated: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 2:57 PM
<snipped>
Kyron Horman has not been seen since the morning of June 4 when he attended a science fair at Skyline School. No arrests have been made. Terri Horman was the last known adult to have seen the boy.
While authorities have not named a suspect or person of interest, they remain intently focused on Kyron’s stepmother, trying to track her movements June 4, and that of her friend,
DeDe Spicher
, saying both were unaccounted for during a nearly three-hour overlapping period from about 10:15 a.m. to 1 p.m.
<snipped>
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/terri_moulton_horman_appears_i.html
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New flier asks residents if they saw Horman, Spicher
Story Published: Aug 10, 2010 at 3:20 PM PST
Story Updated: Aug 10, 2010 at 10:15 PM PST
PORTLAND, Ore. - Investigators working on the Kyron Horman case released a new flier Tuesday that asks residents near Kyron's elementary school if they saw his stepmother, Terri Horman, and her close friend,
DeDe Spicher
the day he disappeared.
The two-page flier includes pictures of Horman, Spicher and the white pickup truck Horman was driving on June 4 the day Kyron vanished, and in it police ask residents if they saw the two or the pickup between the hours of 9:45 a.m. and 1 p.m. that day.
<snipped>
http://www.katu.com/news/local/100392859.html
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland, OR #44 4/11/12 -
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The family of Kyron Horman released this statement
Thursday evening, July 22, 2010
<snipped>
We have been briefed by law enforcement on the most recent developments in Kyron's case.
We have been informed that they have identified a person that has been in close communication with Terri Moulton Horman since Kyron went missing and her name is
DeDe Spicher
. She has not only been in close communication with Terri but has been providing Terri with support and advice that is not in the best interests of our son.
Additional information provided shows that she is refusing to cooperate with law enforcement, she is also going as far as to suggest to others that may have information regarding Kyron's disappearance, not to cooperate as well.
We implore
DeDe Spicher
to come forward and cooperate with the investigators in any way that they need in order to assist us in finding our son. We will state further that if we find out through the investigation that she caused a delay in us finding our son due to her lack of cooperation, we will pursue civil remedies in this matter.
We as a family cannot understand how anyone can look at Kyron's smiling face, having information and choose not to help bring him home. Please remember what this is about, it's about bringing a wonderful little boy back to his family.
Desiree, Kaine and Tony
http://www.kgw.com/news/local/Kyrons-family-calls-on-friend-of-Terris-to-tell-what-she-knows-99076714.html
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland, OR #44 4/11/12 -
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Flashback
(Good idea, Janet)
After 3,300 leads, Kyron search comes back to Skyline
By Anita Kissée
KATU News and KATU.com
Staff Published: Jul 24, 2010 at 9:13 PM PDT
Last Updated:
Jul 26, 2010
at 2:52 PM PDT
::snipping2::
Spicher's father, Don Spicher works for Klamath County - the same county that took the lead on the expanded search for Kyron.
However, the sheriff there assures us Deputy Spicher is part time and only works summers for marine patrol, and had nothing at all to do with the search and rescue operation. Even so, "he has to be very careful that he's not walking the edge, helping his daughter potentially avoid apprehension or in anyway hinder this case," McCain said.
::snipping2::
http://www.katu.com/news/local/99180424.html
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Flashback
DeDe Spicher?
Second person seen in truck while Terri at Kyron's school
Posted on August 10, 2010 at 11:55 AM
Updated Tuesday, Aug 10 at 12:10 PM
PORTLAND, Ore. -- KGW has learned that investigators are trying to determine the identity of a person who was seen sitting in the truck Terri Horman was driving the day Kyron Horman disappeared.
According to several sources in the Skyline community, including people who have spoken with investigators, the person was seen by at least two witnesses while Terri was in the school with Kyron.
<snipped>
http://www.kgw.com/home/2nd-person-seen-in-Terri-Hormans-truck-100301534.html
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Attorney: Spicher shared Terri Horman emails, texts with cops
Posted on July 26, 2010 at 11:09 AM
Updated Wednesday, Aug 18 at 7:05 AM
<snipped>]
However Spicher's attorney Chad Stavley said
DeDe
was gardening on the day Kyron disappeared and never left the area.
"She's getting asked questions, she's getting treated frankly, like she's a suspect, when she's not," he said.
Stavley also told NBC Dateline Monday that
Spicher
had been, and planned to keep, cooperating with investigators. He said that she had already shared text messages and emails sent to and from Terri with detectives.
"I would be, frankly, surprised if Terri Horman did not eventually face charges in this case," Stavley said. "I'd be surprised if the indictment didn't come down."
<snipped>
http://www.kgw.com/news/local/DeDe-Spicher-testifies-before-grand-jury-99252004-kyron-horman-missing-portland.html
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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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Flashback
Kyron Horman latest news: Report says DeDe Spicher refuses to take a polygraph test
Aug 21, 2010
Kyron Horman latest news: Report says
DeDe Spicher
refuses to take a polygraph test
New information has been released in the Kyron Horman case and the latest news says that DeDe Spicher refuses to take a polygraph test. DeDe Spicher is good friends with Terri Horman and according to an interview Spicher gave with People magazine, she spent 11 days living with Terri Horman after Kyron’s disappearance. Though neither Terri Horman nor DeDe Spicher have been named suspects in the case, the two were featured in a flyer distributed to Portland, Oregon residents. Why would
DeDe Spicher
refuse to take a polygraph test?
<snipped>
http://primewriter.com/news-1246-headlines/?p=9084
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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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Quote from: Blink34 on October 23, 2012, 06:03:03 PM
Quote from: sassifrass on October 23, 2012, 04:41:52 PM
Quote from: Amys Sister on October 23, 2012, 04:38:11 PM
I found it. I'm on page 10 of 20. Dear Lord. The questions are telling... about what Desiree believes happened with her baby and about the flawed investigation. LE did not subpoena or even ask for Dede's telephone or computer records even though she had unaccounted time that day.
I know! How idiotic is that? WTH were they thinking, or rather not thinking of? This case has been screwed up from the very beginning. Shame on them.
Just to clarify- DeDe has no way of knowing, unless it was shared with her and verifiable proof was presented, what records were or were not subpoened or gained by LE. She responded to the question asked of her, which was if she had ever given LE permission to access, or if she turned them over, etc.
I do not believe for 10 seconds that LE does not have her cell records, and I believe they duped her hard drives on any electronics if they were included in the subpoena to search her residence. Her online account access would also be transparent to LE review if LE had a subpoena for it as well.
I am on record to say that this was a botched investigation unfortunately, but facts are facts..
Yes, good point. She did answer the question asked of her. I do think she would know if LE had subpoenaed her computer though, wouldn't she? Not that this is what was asked.
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===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
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