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« Reply #880 on: December 14, 2013, 05:48:06 PM »

Could it be that DeDe Spicher was less than truthful with Blink during the September interview?

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A Blink On Crime Exclusive: DeDe Spicher speaks for the first time about her ordeal in the Kyron Horman investigation- continued
Wednesday 11 September 2013 4:25 pm


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Spicher says Terri was adamant that she never had a sexual relationship with the now infamous landscaper Rudy Sanchez Estrada.   Spicher agrees that her friend had the propensity to be flirtatious but she never knew her to be sexually promiscuous.  Outside of the fact that she says at Kaine’s request to occasionally include an additional female in the bedroom,  to which Spicher declined, she was not aware that the Horman’s had a swinger lifestyle.

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http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/09/11/blink-on-crime-kyron-horman-investigation-exclusive-dede-spicher-interview-yields-allegations-of-illegal-steroid-use-terri-horman-took-to-police/


1.  NEVER HAD AN AFFAIR WITH THE LANDSCAPER?

Kyron Horman Missing And Endangered: Landscaper Rudy Sanchez Knew Kyron
Wednesday 14 July 2010 3:29 pm


11.  MaeBee says:
July 20, 2010 at 9:04 pm


I just listened to the radio show that blink was on. Did I hear you right that Terri admitted to an affair with Rudy Sanchez or only that she did know him because of the yard work? If she admitted to having a tryst with him, then it truly changes everything that I have been told by her. I need this to be clarifyed, just for my own peace of mind. Thank You.

I am told by sources that Terri was involved in an intimate relationship with Rudy Sanchez at some point. The extent of which, to my knowledge has not been verified.

http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/14/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-landscaper-rudy-sanchez-knew-kyron/#comments


Kyron's father wants step-mom Terri to leave home sooner
Posted on July 14, 2010 at 10:48 AM
Updated Thursday, Jul 15 at 6:09 PM


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Similarities to Murder-for-Hire plot

Monday's court filing also stated that police had told Kaine that Terri's "sexual overtures to Mr. Cook resemble those made to the man Respondent (Terri Horman) attempted to hire to murder Petitioner (Kaine)."

In the original restraining order filing, Kaine stated that police had told him Terri had tried to hire a landscaper to kill Kaine

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http://www.kgw.com/news/Court-doc-Kaine-Terri-Horman-kyron-horman-contempt-sexting-98270654.html

http://images.bimedia.net/documents/horman-affair.pdf


2.  A NEW DEFINITION OF FLIRTATIOUS?

Kyron Horman's stepmom won't contest husband's push out of their home; new court files allege sexual relationship
July 12, 2010 at 8:56 PM
updated July 16, 2010 at 10:31 AM


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Law enforcement found hundreds of text messages between Terri Horman and Cook, as well as photographs of Terri "in various stages of undress and graphic sexual activity" on Cook's cell phone, the filing says.

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http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyrons_stepmom_wont_contest_he.htm

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/redacted-text-messages.PDF

http://images.bimedia.net/documents/horman-affair.pdf
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« Reply #881 on: December 14, 2013, 08:10:27 PM »

when i read that partial depo of kaines, i thought i remembered
kaine saying that kiara never asked about mom,i thought to myself back
then bs,as much time as the baby spent with mom, and then mom is gone,
i think she would ask, here it is

By Lynne Terry | lterry@oregonian.com
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on November 15, 2010 at 12:15 PM, updated November 15, 2010 at 5:06 PM

Horman said his 2-year-old daughter Kiara asks about Kyron all the time, but never
asks about her mother.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/11/kaine_horman_says_he_didnt_rea.html
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« Reply #882 on: December 14, 2013, 08:44:06 PM »


the marriage failing and the landscaper, i dont remember reading this article
seems kaine knew early on when the MFH was,he uses the words (attempted murder-for-hire plot)
most of the time, it seems kaine cant articulate exactly what he is trying to say
its like he is trying to read from incomplete notes he sees in his minds eye

By The Oregonian
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on July 08, 2010 at 7:59 PM, updated July 15, 2010 at 3:03 PM
 
Horman said he thought his marriage to Terri Moulton Horman fractured within six months after she gave
birth in November 2008, the result of postpartum depression.

Terri Horman was put on medication for the depression, and her doctor told Kaine to keep an eye on her
to make sure she was OK, he said. But she wasn't OK.

"She's had a lot of emotional outbursts," he said. "I think it's still with her. I don't know if it's postpartum
or something else." 
 
Horman wrote that the attempted murder-for-hire plot occurred at the end of 2009.
On June 18, they began circulating fliers with her photo and a picture of the white truck she drove to and
from the school on the day Kyron vanished.

About that time, investigators tracked down a landscaper who told authorities that Terri Horman had tried
to pay him to kill her husband. Then on June 26, detectives sent the landscaper back to the Horman
home to get taped corroboration of the alleged murder-for-hire plot.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_hormans_father_recalls_w.html
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« Reply #883 on: December 14, 2013, 08:53:30 PM »

another thing i dont remember reading or hearing
while i was looking for the kiara statement i found this about kyron
why would they be in separate stairwells, wonder if that is when
tanner saw kyron and had the cool electric one convo, did tanner
see kyron in the stairwell or the hall? i could be remembering wrong
i thought it was in a hall tanner saw kyron

@ about 2:24 Lieutenant Mary Lindstrand, says that she was told
that the stepmother went up one stairwell and kyron another stairwell
and she saw kyron walking down the hall toward his classroom
http://www.katu.com/news/local/95691389.html?tab=video&c=y
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« Reply #884 on: December 15, 2013, 12:24:41 PM »


"TERRI PUT EVERYTHING IN WRITING WHICH GOD LOVE HER HAS BEEN A BLESSING FOR US."
Desiree Young - Dr. Phil Show - September, 2013


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« Reply #885 on: December 15, 2013, 06:06:28 PM »

The December 19th custody hearing is fast approaching.  Will Terri's attorneys be granted the requested emergency hearing regarding the selective deposing of the landscaper?

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EMERGENCY HEARING

Terri Horman's lawyers ask for hearing over landscaper allegations
Published: Dec 8, 2013 at 11:00 PM PST


Lawyers for Terri Horman have asked the judge presiding over her divorce from Kaine Horman for an emergency hearing to discuss allegations made by a landscaper who claims Terri tried to hire him to kill Kaine. ....

In court papers, Kaine’s lawyers draw a connection between that and the disappearance of his son, Kyron, who was last seen shortly after being dropped off at school by Terri, his stepmother, almost four years ago.

They use the landscaper’s allegations to argue that Terri should not be allowed to spend time with their daughter, now 4 years old. ....

In court papers of their own, Terri’s lawyers argue the other side is presenting “an incomplete and inaccurate accounting of events ... to prevent parenting time and to further smear (Terri) before the court and in the public record."

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http://www.katu.com/news/local/Terri-Hormans-lawyers-ask-for-emergency-hearing-234981351.html


Landscaper says Terri Horman wanted him to get rid of her husband: court records
December 09, 2013 at 9:20 AM
updated December 09, 2013 at 6:55 PM


Lawyers for Terri Moulton Horman are seeking an emergency hearing on what evidence can be considered as she seeks temporary custody of her daughter after her estranged husband alleged in court papers that she solicited a landscaper to kill him.

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Lawyers for Terri Horman argue in court papers that Kaine Horman "has opened the door to further discovery,'' through his lawyers' questioning of Sanchez based on information that could only have come from law enforcement. ....

Bunch is asking the court for permission to depose law enforcement officials and Sanchez about a final 15-minute meeting between Sanchez and Terri Horman. And if not, he argues the court should strike Kaine Horman's court pleadings that refer to Sanchez's deposition. ....

A hearing has been set for Dec. 19 on Terri Horman's motion for temporary parenting time with her daughter. It's not clear if Judge Henry Kantor will set an earlier hearing on this latest dispute.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/12/landscaper_says_terri_horman_w.html#incart_m-rpt-2

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/Emergency%20Hearing%20Motion.pdf

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/kainehorman.pdf

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« Reply #886 on: December 15, 2013, 06:22:18 PM »

Did I miss something?  What is going on regarding the depositions of Easter Mathews, Kristina Porter and Susan Hall by Terri's attorneys ... depositions that the court approved.

Think about it.  The December 19th custody hearing is fast approaching and  I have yet to locate any posted documents related to the depositions of these alleged witnesses ... alleged witnesses who Kaine had obviously been unaware existed despite ongoing briefings with investigators.

The foundation of the June 2010 RO denying Terri contact with her daughter for the past 3 1/2 years was comprised of TWO investigative positions ... the "probable" involvement of Terri in the MFH plot against Kaine as well as the disappearance of Kyron.  Terri's attorneys appear to be focusing on ONLY the landscapers deposition.  Why?

Could it be that Terri's attorneys were taken by surprise when the request to depose these alleged witnesses was granted by the judge?   Could it be the alleged witnesses will now  become non-issues ... the alleged witnesses who Terri's attorneys claimed could testify that Terri was not the last known person to be seen with Kyron on the morning of June 4, 2010.

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REMINDER

Attorney: Terri Horman wasn't last person to see Kyron
Posted: Sep 13, 2013 10:27 AM PDT
Updated: Sep 13, 2013 9:56 PM PDT


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"It's not true," Houze said of the claims Terri Horman was the last person to see Kyron that day. "We have witnesses who will say, in fact, they know facts first-hand that demonstrate that is not true."

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http://www.kptv.com/story/23425918/attorney-terri-horman-wasnt-last-person-to-see-kyron-horman-at-school


Judge to rule by Monday on what discovery Terri Horman can obtain prior to divorce, child custody hearing
September 13, 2013 at 1:24 PM
updated September 24, 2013 at 8:53 AM


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Court records indicate that Terri Horman's lawyers subpoenaed O'Donnell, as well as three Skyline School employees  Kyron's second-grade teacher Kristine Porter, kindergarten/first grade teacher Easter Mathews and school secretary Susan Hall. They subpoenaed to depose three children who attended Skyline School, and staff of Fred Meyer, Magic Cleaners and 24 Hour Fitness.

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http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/09/judge_to_rule_by_monday_on_wha.html


Judge rules Terri Horman's lawyers can't depose investigator or students, but can question Skyline School teachers, various business staff
September 16, 2013 at 9:49 AM
updated September 17, 2013 at 9:26 AM


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Lawyers for Terri Moulton Horman can't question one of the lead sheriff's investigators in the disappearance of her stepson Kyron Horman, but can start deposing faculty at the missing boy's school and adults at area businesses, according to a judge's ruling Monday.

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http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/09/judge_rules_terri_hormans_lawy.html


Kaine Horman wants Kyron records from Terri
Posted on October 9, 2013 at 6:07 AM
Updated Wednesday, Oct 9 at 11:06 AM


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The court documents indicate Kaine Horman's lawyer requested information from Terri Horman on the person or persons "you contend have knowledge that Terri Horman was not the last person to see Kyron Horman on June 4, 2010 at Skyline School."

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http://www.kgw.com/news/Legal-fight-in-Horman-divorce-heats-up--226998691.html
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« Reply #887 on: December 16, 2013, 11:03:01 AM »

I fail to comprehend how a deposition from the owner of Magic Cleaners in Beaverton will further Terri's defence.  She may be able to attest that Kyron was not with Terri but ... in the video at the following link the owner who served Terri on the morning of June 4, 2010 claims that Terri was alone when she was in the establishment.  Where was Kiara?  Who was with Kiara?

Maybe Sari Shanti has been deposed but ... I have yet to locate an article/document that indicates that a deposition has taken place and ... the December 19th hearing is fast approaching.

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Judge: Terri Horman's lawyers cannot question investigator
Posted on September 16, 2013 at 9:30 AM
Updated Tuesday, Sep 17 at 4:18 PM


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Judge Kantor Monday granted a motion filed by Kaine Horman's attorneys to stop Terri Horman's attorneys from questioning deputy O'Donnell.

However, Terri Horman's attorneys can conduct their own investigation. They will be allowed to interview witnesses, including teachers at Skyline Elementary and employees of Fred Meyer,Magic Cleaners and 24-hour Fitness. They will not be allowed to question Skyline students.

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Video
http://www.kgw.com/news/Judge-Terri-Hormans-lawyers-cannot-subpoena-lead-investgator-223927381.html
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« Reply #888 on: December 16, 2013, 11:31:44 AM »


The questioning of the owner of Magic Cleaners has been edited in the following video.  Could it be that Sari Shanti's words has been deemed evidence by investigators in the Kyron Horman case?

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THE ORIGINAL

Kyle Iboshi:  Terri Horman's lawyers also hope to question the owner of Magic Cleaners in Beaverton.  She says that Terri came in alone and dropped off some clothes the day Kyron disappeared.

Sari Shanti:  She dropped off two shirts for cleaning.  There was nobody with her.

Reporter:  A little kid?

Sari Shanti: No.


Video

http://www.kgw.com/news/Judge-Terri-Hormans-lawyers-cannot-subpoena-lead-investgator-223927381.html
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« Reply #889 on: December 16, 2013, 12:30:03 PM »

Magic Cleaners?   Why was it not revealed until September, 2013 that Magic Cleaners was one of Terri's stops?  When Terri's timeline in her own words is considered ... could it be that it was the Sari Shanti who contacted authorities and reported that Terri was in the establishment alone on the morning of June 4, 2010?

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Judge to rule by Monday on what discovery Terri Horman can obtain prior to divorce, child custody hearing
September 13, 2013 at 2:16 PM


Terri Moulton Horman's lawyers have issued about 10 subpoenas, demanding to question Tuesday one of the lead sheriff's investigators in the disappearance of her stepson Kyron, as well as faculty of Skyline School, the boy's former classmates and employees of various businesses, including Fred Meyer, 24-Hour Fitness and Magic Dry Cleaners.

The depositions, Horman's lawyers argued in court Friday, are necessary to gather information to defend Terri Horman as a fit parent who deserves to spend time with her daughter, Kiara, a 4-year-old. Terri Horman hasn't been permitted to see her daughter in more than three years. Kiara has lived exclusively with her father.

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http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/09/judge_to_rule_by_monday_on_wha.html


Terri Horman e-mails: 'They are blaming me'
Published: Aug 10, 2010 at 10:17 PM PS
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Meantime, KATU News has obtained e-mails written by Terri Horman which indicate the woman knew suspicions were settled on her long before news of the alleged murder-for-hire plot and sexting affairs were made public.

"They are blaming me in the blogs. I just want to scream," she wrote in one e-mail to a KATU News source the day after her stepson, Kyron Horman, vanished from Skyline School during a science fair.

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"I have a receipt showing I was checking out at Fred Meyer 7 miles away at 9:12am. I went to another FM looking for meds for Kitty they didn't have at the first FM. Then I was trying to get Kitty to sleep in the truck for a few minutes, but no go, so off to the gym at 11:20. Out at 12:20. Home at 12:45. Kaine home at 2. Bus at 3:30. That was my day - they keep asking me. Now on my 5th interview with them."

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« Reply #890 on: December 16, 2013, 01:00:43 PM »

TIMELINE DISCREPANCIES

Terri Horman agrees to leave house
Posted on July 8, 2010 at 5:53 PM
Updated Monday, Jul 12 at 12:44 PM


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Sources also told KGW Saturday that  investigators have been creating a detailed timeline of what Terri did the day her stepson disappeared.
 
While Terri Horman has said she was in certain locations, investigators have placed her elsewhere using bank card records and cell phone pings, according to sources.
 
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http://www.kgw.com/news/Desiree-Young-on-Terri-Moulton-I-know-shes-lying-98075814.html


Little Boy Lost
Dateline NBC
7/26/2010 6:51:10 PM ET


TRANSCRIPT

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Tony and Desiree say the biggest question marks revolved around Terri's whereabouts that morning that Kyron went missing.

DESIREE YOUNG: She couldn't explain to them for about two hours worth of time where she was or what she was doing.

And there was something else that gave Desiree and Tony a sinking feeling that something wasn't right. They say Terri's cell phone records apparently didn't match up with where she said she was on the morning of Kyron's disappearance.

TONY YOUNG: That to me is strike two. That's huge… There's starting to be some structural problems with what she's saying at that point. And then it continues to stack up.

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« Reply #891 on: December 16, 2013, 01:14:14 PM »

Any updates!!  The emergency hearing began over an hour ago.  I don't tweet or do Facebook.

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Horman couple due back in Multnomah County court Monday morning in child custody case
December 16, 2013 at 9:00 AM
updated December 16, 2013 at 9:07 AM


Lawyers for Terri Moulton Horman and Kaine Horman are due back in a Multnomah County courtroom Monday morning to argue over what testimony from the Horman landscaper should be allowed as evidence as Terri Horman seeks temporary custody of their daughter.

Terri Horman's lawyer Peter Bunch asked for an emergency hearing once Kaine Horman, the father of missing Kyron Horman, cited testimony from landscaper Rodolfo Sanchez to argue that his estranged wife is dangerous and shouldn't be allowed any parenting time with their daughter, Kiara, now 5.

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The hearing starts at 9:15 a.m. before Judge Henry Kantor. I'll be there, and reporting updates from the courtroom in the comments below.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/12/horman_couple_due_back_in_mult.html
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Horman couple due back in Multnomah County court Monday morning in child custody case
December 16, 2013 at 9:00 AM
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The hearing starts at 9:15 a.m. before Judge Henry Kantor. I'll be there, and reporting updates from the courtroom in the comments below.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/12/horman_couple_due_back_in_mult.html



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« Reply #893 on: December 16, 2013, 06:22:29 PM »

The implication appears to be that the custody hearing scheduled for December 19/20 has been cancelled.  Do I have that right?

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Judge: Horman gardener can testify
By Carla Castano and KOIN 6 News staff
Updated: Monday, December 16, 2013, 12:25 PM PST
Published: Monday, December 16, 2013, 11:28 AM PST


PORTLAND, Ore. (KOIN) – A judge ruled Monday that a landscaper who claims Terri Horman offered him money to kill her estranged husband Kaine can indeed testify in their ongoing divorce and custody saga.

Multnomah County Circuit Court Judge Henry Kantor ruled that Rudolpho Sanchez-Estrada could testify before him. However, Kantor said he may still choose not to use that testimony in their custody case. Furthermore, Kantor ruled that Terri's lawyers will not be allowed to cross-examine him, but Kaine’s lawyers will.

Sanchez could testify before Judge Kantor as early as Thursday or Friday, according to his attorney Adam Thayne.

The decision came after Horman’s criminal attorney Stephen Houze argued today that Sanchez’s testimony should not be trusted over fears that investigators had already cut a deal with him. Houze claimed any testimony by Sanchez should be thrown out because it does not show a full picture of the conversations between him and Terri.

Sanchez was deposed early this month by Kaine’s lawyers. That deposition is what prompted Monday’s emergency hearing.

On June 4, 2010, a then 7-year-old Kyron Horman disappeared from Skyline Elementary in Northwest Portland, launching the largest search in state history. Terri is believed to have been the last person to see him alive. She has never been officially named as a suspect in the case.

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Terri did not attend Monday’s hearing. Along with Houze, her civil attorney Peter Bunch was in the courtroom. Kaine and his attorney Peter Engel were also present.

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« Reply #894 on: December 16, 2013, 06:35:48 PM »


Kyron Horman Missing: Kaine And Terri Horman Face Off In Family Court
Thursday 7 October 2010 11:24


Terri Horman had her own personal black Friday this year.
 
<snipped>

She called 911 THE DAY AFTER CHRISTMAS. Regular contributors and readers of blinkoncrime.com doubt she had sale flyer questions.

Following this afternoon’s legal melee, blinkoncrime.com Editor In Chief asked prominent Washington State Family Law Attorney, Lea Conner, to weigh in:

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There’s a disconnect between Mr. Bunch’s argument that Ms. Horman cannot defend herself because she would incriminate herself in the disappearance of her stepson, and his statement that “If Mr. Horman is really interested in what‘s best for the child, then Mr. Horman wouldn’t object to any visitation by this child’s mother.”

The apparent logic is that Ms. Horman admits that if she speaks, she will incriminate herself in some as-yet-to-be-named crime related to Kyron’s disappearance, yet Mr. Horman is now supposed to trust her to care for his other child, because that’s so obviously in their daughter’s best interest.

http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/10/07/kyron-horman-missing-kaine-and-terri-horman-face-off-in-family-court/



Horman divorce hearing focuses on murder-for-hire evidence
by Kyle Iboshi and KGW.com Staff
Posted on December 16, 2013 at 10:16 AM
Updated today at 3:19 PM


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As for Sanchez-Estrada's deposition, Terri Horman's attorneys argued that statements made in that interview would open the door for other evidence in the criminal case to be used in the divorce. They said the deposition should not be allowed

Kaine Horman's lawyer argued that Terri's attorneys were filing motions in the divorce case just to find out what was happening with the criminal case.

Court records also revealed Monday that Terri was called for a deposition on Dec. 4. She repeatedly asserted her Fifth Amendment rights and refused to testify about her earnings or living expenses.

http://www.kgw.com/news/local/Horman-divorce-hearing-looking-at-murder-for-hire-evidence-236054061.html
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« Reply #895 on: December 16, 2013, 06:47:05 PM »

I think the following article implies that the December 19th custody hearing will proceed as scheduled ... proceed with the testimony of the landscaper.

Also ... Kyle Iboshi has posted ongoing updates/tweets of this morning's emergency hearing in the comment section of the following link.  Thanks Kyle!!!  Despite the constant urgings of others ... I have yet to register for a Facebook account and I don't Tweet.

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Horman divorce hearing focuses on murder-for-hire evidenc
by Kyle Iboshi and KGW.com Staff
Posted on December 16, 2013 at 10:16 AM
Updated today at 3:19 PM


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The judge Monday ruled that Terri Horman's attorneys will not be allowed to ask the landscaper any additional questions. Although he is expected to be called to testify as a witness during the hearing later this week.

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« Reply #896 on: December 16, 2013, 07:04:58 PM »

Horman child custody case: Landscaper can testify, but won't be cross-examined about his work with law enforcement
December 16, 2013 at 12:34 PM
updated December 16, 2013 at 3:18 PM


Kaine Horman's lawyers will be able to call landscaper Rodolfo Sanchez as a witness to testify later this week about an alleged murder-for-hire plot he says Terri Moulton Horman concocted in 2010 as Terri Horman seeks temporary custody of her daughter.

But Terri Horman's lawyers will not be allowed to cross-examine Sanchez about his last 15-minute meeting with their client, organized as a sting operation by law enforcement after her stepson Kyron Horman's disappearance from Skyline School in June 2010, a judge ruled Monday.

Multnomah County Circuit Judge Henry Kantor, though, said he still had not decided whether to allow Sanchez's testimony to be entered as evidence in deciding the child custody case.

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If Terri Horman's attorneys are not allowed to question Sanchez, Houze argued that the court is left with "an incomplete and self-serving account of events.'' He also pointed out that Terri Horman has never been charged with solicitation for murder.

Kaine Horman's lawyer, Brett Engel, countered that he tracked down the landscaper on his own, not through the help of law enforcement. In court documents filed Monday, Engel said he found quite a bit of information on the case on the Internet "posted by bloggers, sleuths and lay persons interested in helping locate Kyron Horman. Through my own research, I obtained Mr. Sanchez's name.''

When the alleged murder-for-hire plot occurred about five months before Kyron Horman's disappearance, no law enforcement was involved, Engel said.

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http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/12/post_389.html

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/hormancourtdocs12162013.pdf
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« Reply #897 on: December 16, 2013, 07:57:28 PM »

Inquiring minds still want to know why the depositions approved by the judge ... depositions Terri's attorney claimed were required to defend the custody lawsuit ... are now a non-issue.

Were Susan Hall, Kristina Porter and Easter Mathews deposed?  Were employees of various business deposed?  Could it be that the request by Terri's attorneys was all a strategy.  Think about it.  The judge's ruling/response revealed that none of these alleged witnesses were in a position to compromise the Kyron Horman investigation if deposed.

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Judge to rule by Monday on what discovery Terri Horman can obtain prior to divorce, child custody hearing
September 13, 2013 at 1:24 PM
updated September 24, 2013 at 8:53 AM


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Court records indicate that Terri Horman's lawyers subpoenaed O'Donnell, as well as three Skyline School employees  Kyron's second-grade teacher Kristine Porter, kindergarten/first grade teacher Easter Mathews and school secretary Susan Hall. They subpoenaed to depose three children who attended Skyline School, and staff of Fred Meyer, Magic Cleaners and 24 Hour Fitness.

The depositions, Horman's lawyers argued in court Friday, are necessary to gather information to defend Terri Horman as a fit parent who deserves to spend time with her daughter, Kiara, a 4-year-old. Terri Horman hasn't been permitted to see her daughter in more than three years. Kiara has lived exclusively with her father.

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http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/09/judge_to_rule_by_monday_on_wha.html


Judge rules Terri Horman's lawyers can't depose investigator or students, but can question Skyline School teachers, various business staff
September 16, 2013 at 9:49 AM
updated September 17, 2013 at 9:26 AM


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Lawyers for Terri Moulton Horman can't question one of the lead sheriff's investigators in the disappearance of her stepson Kyron Horman, but can start deposing faculty at the missing boy's school and adults at area businesses, according to a judge's ruling Monday.

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http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/09/judge_rules_terri_hormans_lawy.html

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« Reply #898 on: December 16, 2013, 08:44:54 PM »

Think about it.  The the foundation of the June 2010 RO denying Terri contact with her daughter for the past 3 1/2 years was comprised of TWO investigative suspicions ... the involvement of Terri in the MFH plot against Kaine as well as the disappearance of Kyron.

Why is Terri's attorneys only focusing on discrediting the landscaper?  What about the alleged witnesses who could attest that Terri was not the last known person seen with Kyron on the morning of June 4, 2010?  Were these alleged witnesses deposed?

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Attorney: Terri Horman wasn't last person to see Kyron
Posted: Sep 13, 2013 10:27 AM PDT
Updated: Sep 13, 2013 9:56 PM PDT


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"It's not true," Houze said of the claims Terri Horman was the last person to see Kyron that day. "We have witnesses who will say, in fact, they know facts first-hand that demonstrate that is not true."

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« Reply #899 on: December 16, 2013, 08:47:59 PM »

REMINDER

Father of Missing Oregon Boy Suspects Stepmom
Published July 09, 2010


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The order contained the first publicly released suspicion by Kaine Horman that his wife was connected to Kyron Horman's disappearance.

"I believe respondent is involved in the disappearance of my son Kyron who has been missing since June 4, 2010," Kaine Horman's petition reads. "I also recently learned that respondent attempted to hire someone to murder me. The police have provided me with probable cause to believe the above two statements to be true."

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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/07/09/father-missing-oregon-boy-suspects-stepmom/
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