I tend to waffle on WHO is the most manipulative and sometimes, really most I lean toward Billie for many, many reasons. I know I am going to forget a few but here is a brief rambling summary:
1-I think Billie did use 911 on Feb 2010 and I don't think she was worried about David (that was an afterthought and was what she mentioned last), it was about SA coming in her home when she wasn't there, kind of a control issue and I'll show you........remember he was involved with that Andrea girl in February, the one that looks like a skeleton and defends him as much as Billie. So IMO she knew he wanted to go grab his belongings and it was more of "hell no you are not", then she rattles on about how he might take her son's XBOX, TV etc, oh and yeah my son might be there, if I were truly worried about my son, I'd have left work to go home and make sure that David was staying someone else, locked my windows and doors. Then she calls to say he is threatening her and Clint in the next call, then SA calls about the possible overdose and although it could be him doint the tit fo tat, as Titch states if he was truly worried about it he did put Billie over himself so great point Titch, I never thought of that and if she knew and she had to about his affair with Andrea I can see her saying "I took all the klonopin in order to manipulate Shawn to come back to her...not that I believe she did, I think it was an effort to manipulate"
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2-When she decided that she was in a panic about Hailey being missing before checking with MB PERSONALLY or even MB's mother, and didn't call Shawn to make sure he had the not mixed up the friend name since IMO a BF wouldn't be as aware of her friends as a mother should be, well she asled Clint to call 911 which I think is a big red flag, IMO it shows distancing just as it did when she had DD text MB when she could have easily called herself and even then why did Hailey have to come home at noon when she wasn't due home until 7pm, I mean it is Christmas break and I would rather my child be at the home where there was someone else with her than home all alone for 7 more hours. Also, why not call 911 herself to tell them she was coming to file a report, she had a phone at the office and knew far more details than Clint would have, and obviously she had no problem callin 911 from work since she did it last yr wrt the t-shirt, I just think a missing child is far more important than a BF wanting to come get his shirt and other belongings.
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3-She stated on NG that she didn't find out the Hailey was staying with MB until after she and Shawn returned home from their drug run later that evening, yet in her latest PC she stated she knew at noon on Monday when Shawn called and she asked about the kids. Here is a link from WS since I would have to search for hours to look thru all of CZ's post:
January 3 - post by Billie's friend czgtz:
01-03-2011, 08:03 PM czgtz
I am on the phone with Billie right now:
When Billie got home from work Monday, her BF told her that he came home early and that Hailey had left shortly after that. Last edited by czgtz; 01-03-2011 at 08:13 PM.
Shawn called me while I was at work that afternoon. I asked him about the kids. He told me that David wasn’t home yet, and that Hailey had left to go to Clint’s, and then was going to a friend’s to spend the night.http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127444FROM HER BTR INTERVIEW ANOTHER DIRECT CONTRADICTION
Around three o’clock, Shawn got to the house.
Just shortly after, he said within 15 minutes, Hailey was walking out the door. She told him she was stopping by her dad’s house, and then gonna go spend the night with a friend.--------------------------------
4-She told NG on Jan 3rd that Shawn was at work when she had known since the Dec 29th that he "was fired" and she also knew this within 24 hrs of her reporting her missing so I don't buy the explanation that "it's what she had thought was truth for so long she just misstated accidentally.........BS, she knew the truth 500% longer than the lie, so why lie on the very first appearance on NG?
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5-She stated Shawn went straight to his mothers house and would NOT have gone thru CCity as it was shorter not to go thru Ccity, yet latere when the ping info is released he needed a reason to show his phone pinging from Ccity so voila, NOW he drove to him GMA's at 6am, but she wasn't home?? Then drove to his mother's home.
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6-She never asked about the blow up or argument at work, and from Shawn and Billie IIRC she didn't want him to quit so why wouldn't she ask WTF were you thinking Shawn, who did you get into an argument with, I know I'd have been pizzed and asked a million questions if I was telling someone don't you dare quit your job.
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7-Shawn fails his poly after refusing 2, and walks out when the questions are tough, and weeks later she still hasn't asked him why?
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8-this snip from NG: GRACE: So, I mean, if he`s going to go somewhere, he`s got to use that vehicle and there it is parked right out front. And they told you he wasn`t home.
MIKKILINENI: Right. They told me he was not home. But police say that he`s almost always at home.
GRACE: I want to go back to Billie Dunn. Back to the question the caller presented earlier. Between 7:00 and 9:00 a.m.. Why? Why? Let`s see that ping record again, Liz. The map. Why would he go into work, Billie, take a look at his boss, 6:00 a.m., take a sip of soda and walk out? Then tell you he got fired or quit or some such story as that when the boss said that`s not what happened at all. He just turned around and walked out.
Then his pings placed him back around your home between 6:30 and 7:00 a.m. Then between 7:00 and 9:00, nothing. Then the pings put him at his mother`s house around 9:00 up until 2:40 p.m. What do you see in that scenario, Billie Dunn? What`s he doing back around your home?
DUNN: I don`t know. That`s all stuff I need a lot of answers to, that we all need a lot of answers to.GRACE: Well, have you tried to ask him?
DUNN: No.
GRACE: Why?
DUNN: I haven`t spoke with him. He`ll send a text every now and then. But I haven`t asked him, why did you come back to the house? He never let me know that. I didn`t know that until the affidavits came out and showed his pings. That he had come back here first, then to Big Spring. GRACE: Well, why haven`t you asked him?
DUNN: I haven`t spoke with him.
GRACE: Yes, I know that. My question is, why? I would want to know why. What were you doing back around my house?DUNN: I want to know too.
GRACE: Well then why haven`t you asked him? Oh, because did the cops tell you not to talk to him?
DUNN: I`m not allowed -- no. When I call over there, they don`t let me talk to him. They won`t put him on the phone.
GRACE: What about a cell phone?
DUNN: He doesn`t have a cell phone.
GRACE: So when you call over there, what do they say?
GRACE: Well, text him.
OK......IF HE HAS NO CELL PHONE HOW IS HE TEXTING HER, SORRY I CALL BS
SO, when EXACTLY did she learn he was allegedly at his mother's house during that time as she stated in her *cough* timeline?
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9- Another snip from NG
GRACE: They`re in the middle of a divorce. It`s been going on three years now, but they`ve united in the search for their daughter tonight. Mr. Dunn, have you submitted to a polygraph?
CLINT: I told them that I would take one, too.
GRACE: I`m sorry. I couldn`t hear you. Repeat?
CLINT: I told the FBI yesterday that I would take one.
SO, IF CLINT WAS TALKING TO THE FBI THE DAY BEFORE WHICH WAS ALSO THE DAY BEFORE BILLIE TOOK HERS, I WOULD THINK THE FBI WOULD HAVE ADMINISTERED HERS AND NOT SOME RANDOM POLYGRAPHER FROM BS...COULD BE WRONG, I JUST NOW CAUGHT THAT RESPONSE FROM CLINT.
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10-Another from NG
BILLIE: She usually asked me first. And then would ask the other family. Sometimes she would ask them first. I thought, yes, they knew she had intentions of spending the night.
They should have known.HOW COULD THEY HAVE KNOWN IF THEY NEVER KNEW SHE HAD PLANNED TO SPEND THE NIGHT THERE???
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11-NG snip
GRACE: First thing I want to clear up, Ms. Dunn, I have in these documents that I`ve with me and I`ve read them very carefully, that you did, in fact, have a New Year`s Eve party at your home. That would have been within 72 hours of reporting Hailey missing.
BILLIE: Well, we did not. I know it wasn`t on my mind at all that it was even New Year`s Eve. I had an uncle and aunt, and they brought their grandbaby from out of town. They came up. They stayed at my house Friday during the day. They spent the night at my brother`s. They were back over here Saturday. I think they went home on Sunday. We had family over here. I`ve had a lot of fat of family here. But that weekend, an aunt, an uncle and their grandbaby and my two brothers came over
WASN'T ONE OF HER BROTHERS IN JAIL ON NYE? I REMEMBER SEEING THE INFO WHERE HE WAS RELEASED ON 1/1/11 SO HOW COULD HE BE AT HER HOME?
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12-GRACE: Did you know that your live-in walked out of two polygraphs?
BILLIE: They told me he couldn`t take the first one because he had taken the anxiety medication also.
GRACE: OK. What about the second one?
BILLIE: And the same thing with the one they set up — the same thing. We didn`t know it was set up for Monday. It was set up for Wednesday. I made sure he didn`t get near any of that
NOT ACCORDING TO THE AFFADAVITS, HE REFUSED THE FIRST TWO IIRC
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13-BILLIE: With Shawn getting the cell phone pings coming back to Colorado City that morning,
I want to know who she talked to on the phone, it`s very important to me if she was on that phone and they`re not saying that anybody is an accountable witness it seems that has seen her on Monday. So I want to know who called my cell phone that morning and that afternoon, and who she called, and those are answers that I know they have, that they still haven`t gotten back with me on.
SHE STATED LATER ON AND CZ ALSO STATED THAT SHE WENT THRU THE TEXT AND SAW THE 2:16 TEXT TO MB, SO HOW WOULD SHE NOT ALREADY KNOW WHO SHE TALKED TO ON THE PHONE?
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14-GRACE: Now, tell me what happened when you got home from work, does Adkins come pick you up?
BILLIE: No, Tuesday when I got home, when I realized she didn`t spend the night at Mary Beth`s, I came straight home, my sister-in-law gave me a ride. And then Shawn met me here.
SHE DIDN'T EVEN THINK OF CALLING SHAWN SO HE COULDN'T HAVE JUST MET HER THERE AS THIS SOUNDS LIKE HER MET HER THERE AS SOON AS SHE WENT TO THE HOUSE BEFORE SHE WENT TO LE
FROM HER PC: I got home from the police station around three.
Shawn called me on my cell and talked to David who told him I was going, who told him what all was going on, so Shawn left and got to the house around 4 o’clock with me and David.
BILLIE SPEAK REQUIRES A MIND FOR BS AND A BOTTLE OF SOMETHING STRONGER THAN VODKA
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15-Tuesday morning on the 28th, Shawn and I both got up around 5:30. We left the house together around 6:20 to go to work. It’s not unusual for Shawn to take me to work. He always has to be there by seven. Sometimes he had to go in earlier, but he was always told the night before, and I would arrange to get another ride on those days
FROM HER PC......OK, THIS WAS JUST LAST WEEK AND SHE KNOWS DAMN WELL HE DIDN'T GO TO WORK THAT DAY, WHY NOT STATE "HE TOOK ME TO WORK AND THEN WENT TO HIS MOTHER'S HOUSE"???
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16-My sister-in-law gave me a ride home from Snyder to Colorado City.
I stopped at the house first to make sure Hailey hadn’t come back home, grabbed my cell phone, started texting Hailey’s friends, while my sister-in-law took me around to a couple of their houses before going to the police station.
AGAIN FROM HER PC......WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU TEXT HER FRIENDS WHEN YOU ARE SO PANICKED, WOULDN'T YOU CALL THEM, ASK A TON OF QUESTIONS
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17-How long have you and Shawn been together as a couple?
Two and a half years.WE KNOW THIS IS A LIE FROM THE MS PHOTOS THAT SHOW THEM TOGETHER IN JAN OF 08, AND SHE STATED SHE DIDN'T EVEN MEET HIM UNTIL AFTER A MONTH OF TALKING SO THAT AT THE LATEST WOULD HAVE BEEN DEC OF 07 AND MAYBE EVEN FURTHER
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THIS IS FROM HER BTR INTERVIEW
18-Caller Michael: My question is, how can you still correspond, and say that you’re in love with the law enforcement’s number one suspect, when he told you he would kill you and others in a way that he would always be remembered. How can you, in your heart, still even communicate with him?
I know him very well, and that was over a year ago, in the beginning of our relationship 
OK, IF YOU HAVE BEEN TOGETHER 3 YRS-HOW CAN YOU SAY A YR AGO WAS IN THE BEGINNING OF THE RELATIONSHIP?
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19-Caller Katrina asks about the couches.
Okay, the couches were taken out a couple of weeks ago, just because my brother got new furniture, and brought me his old furniture, which was in better shape than mine. We set them out in the front yard.
Some guys that worked at the power plant, I don’t even know the people,
but they came by and offered to take them to the dump, the local Colorado City dumpNOW, I KNOW THIS IS ANOTHER CONTRADICTION
FROM CZ WRT THE COUCHES
czgtz
Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 305
I would like to clear something up about the couches.
Billie's brother bought new couches, and gave her his old ones. Billie's old ones got stuck in the back of that broken down truck in her front yard for lack of anywhere else to put them.
The couches sat there for 2 or 3 days, and then a woman came by and asked if she could have them. Billie said yes, and the woman had a couple of guys pick them up for her.-----------------------------------------------------------
20-Why haven’t you been out to Hailey’s bridge?
I have.
I don’t stop out there. It’s very emotional for me.
I’ve stopped out there probably once or twiceFROM HER BTR INTERVIEW......A CONTRADICTION IN UNDER A SECOND FLAT, EITHER YOU DONT STOP THER OR YOU HAVE, IT CAN NOT BE BOTH BILLIE
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And, just random crazy stmts that make me pause and think "WTF, did I hear that right?"
And Nancy, I wanted to get a message out to Hailey, if she is watching and she happens to get to a phone, to call 911. Because I do not have my cell phone.
GRACE: And what is your message? To call 911?
DUNN: Yes. Get out there, if you can get to a phone, run to a phone and call 911. Because I don`t have my cell phone with me. And I know she knows that number.
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BILLIE DUNN: Oh, all over, Nancy. There are some from Odessa, Amarillo, I mean, 100, 200 miles away, people are coming down here to find my daughter. People care from all over.
I`m getting letters from all over the United States telling me people are praying for me.
it was just
good for me to get out
WHAT ABOUT HAILEY, ARE THEY PRAYING FOR HER OR IS THIS ALL ABOUT ME ME ME ME BILLIE, AND WHAT ABOUT WHAT IS GOOD FOR HAILEY?
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BILLIE DUNN: I`m still looking for a living, breathing Hailey. SHADES OF CINDY ANTHONY IMO
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The important thing people need to remember is
not slandering me,” said Dunn.
CBS News, January 13, 2011 REALLY, THAT IS WHAT YOU CONSIDER IMPORTANT ????
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We asked Billie what was the lowest point for her over this past month. Her response: when the investigation turned to her former boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, the only suspect named in the case of her missing daughter.
ANOTHER WTF MOMENT IMO, TO ME FINDING OUT MY CHILD IS MISSING WOULD BE THE LOWEST OF THE LOW
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On top of Hailey missing have people saying horrible things and making horrible accusations and after I get Hailey home I’ll deal with the slander and the defamation of character. I definitely will“.
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Host: “Are there problems between Hailey and Shawn?“
Billie: “Not anymore.“ THAT WAS A DOUBLE SHOT TEQUILA MOMENT FOR ME.........
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Every day that they don’t find something is
good for me. NO CHIT, HOW GOOD IS IT FOR HAILEY?/
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Wrt Shawn coming home after learning abou Hailey missing:
He came straight home. He had been pretty upset, he appeared shaken to me also and
started being supportive to me. ----------------------------
BILLIE: Well, I wanted to come on to clear some of that up.
I don`t want to be perceived as a bad person even by people who don`t know me. But the main reason I am here, I don`t want people to get away from the fact that the whole reason we are here and we are talking to media is because my 13-year-old daughter isn`t in my house. Somebody knows where she is.
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didn`t worry about her being a bad kid
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I`ve done a wonderful job with my kids.
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BILLIE: We all watched horror movies. Like I said before, we have mostly comedies in this house. But comedies can`t be looked down upon.
GRACE: Comedies can`t be what?
BILLIE: Looked down upon.
GRACE: I`m not talking about the comedies, I`m happy about the comedies.
BILLIE: I know.
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There are some people who are going around demanding or begging for money. I am disgusted that these individuals who never held down jobs are exploiting Hailey to get a handout.
I’ve always worked and supported my kids by myself, and I will return to work as soon as I am able.
I do not want a handout, and if anyone asks for money on my behalf, please know the request isn’t coming from me, and
I’m not getting money. 
OK WHAT ABOUT THE VAN, THE GRANT AND NUMEROUS DONATIONS YOU ARE USING TO PAY YOUR BILLS WITH....I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT IT WOULD BE INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT TO RETURN TO WORK THIS QUICKLY BUT WHY LIE ABOUT GETTING DONATIONS AND MONEY WHEN THERE IS A PAPER TRAIL PROVING SHE INDEED IS GETTING MONEY???
AGAIN FROM HER BTR INTERVIEW
Are you and Clint, with the donations that are coming in, are you offering any money to the searchers for their gas or for anything like that to help them out for being how they’re putting it out of their own pockets?
No, some of the money I got I put on my bills, but I would, I will gladly offer that up right now. I’ll give anything that I can, and certainly after I get back to work, I’d certainly will.-----------------------
FROM HER BTR INTERVIEW :
When she was a baby, I was fortunate enough that I was able to stay home with her, until she was probably three or four. That’s when I had to start working, but before then, I got to spend all day long with her.
ALSO SHE LIVES IN THE HOUSE THAT CLINT INHERITED SO NO RENT FROM WHAT I WAS TOLD, THAT IN AND OF ITSELF IS HELP IMO. FRANKLY IF I WERE CLINT I'D KICK HER OUT AND MOVE MY FAMILY IN SINCE SHE HAS NO KIDS STAYING WITH HER, HAILEY IS GONE AND DAVID WAS TAKEN AWAY FROM HER.
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I do hope this will lay to rest the confusion and speculation surrounding Hailey’s disappearance, on
my part anyway.
I do not want to have to defend myself or anyone else.
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She was a very clumsy little girl
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When she got up to teenager, we had our little issues with her hormones
PAST TENSE WRT TO "HAD" AND THE HORMONE ISSUE AND SHE HAS STATED THIS NUMEROUS TIMES AS HORMONE AND A LITTLE ATTITIDE REMIND ME OF ADAM BAKER
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Yeah, we do talk on the phone.
I guess we’re together.
We still try to be there for each other. We really, we need to lean on each other. I have good friends and family support, and he’s got really good family support, but it’s nice to be able to talk to each other, and answer questions for each other also, and he’s not living with me, just
because of all the mess that’s going on right now.
so I’m gonna do my best to be there for him as much as I can, and
as soon as I can get Hailey back, he can come back home too, but he’s staying gone just because people can be pretty mean.
POOR HAILEY-IF SHE WAS ALIVE AND HIDING, THIS WOULD BE LIKE A SLAP IN THE FACE IMO
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I was prescribed some Ativan, and they’re similar. I don’t take it anymore,
but right after Hailey left, I was prescribed some and I took it.
SO SHE JUST LEFT?? ODD VERBAGE IMO
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Caller Roy: Tell us some questions that were asked by the examiner.
OK, just related to Hailey, they asked other questions, related to Hailey, they asked if I did anything to cause her disappearance, or if I was, I think, if I knew anything of her disappearance that I was holding back.
They didn’t tell me, just that it showed I was being deceptive. They explained to me this one line that I could see on there, there were several lines. There was one line that went up to the number 10. That’s, I guess, the highest it goes. When I purposely told a lie, they showed me it went up there so that I would understand it.
It hit up to about number 4 or 5 each time a question was asked regarding Hailey, so I guess that shows some deception. I’m not sure. I don’t understand the polygraphs at all, but that’s what I was told.
SO, THE ONLY DECEPTION SHOWN ON THE LDT WERE QUESTION WRT TO HAILEY.....SO I AM EXTRAPOLATING FROM THAT THE NON-HAILEY RELATED QUESTIONS SHE SHOWED NO DECEPTION ON? HOW SHOCKING.....NOT
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Why weren’t you at the balloon release the other day?They did let me know about it, probably a week ago or longer.
They told me they were gonna do it. I was hoping I would get a call to remind me, or let me know exactly what day and time. I would’ve loved to have been there. It’s nobody’s responsibility to personally contact me, but I definitely would’ve liked to have been there.
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If you left on your own, and there’s a problem, I’ll, we can fix anything in the world. I want you home.
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She’s
my daughter. I want her back in
my house.
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Oh, she was such a funny baby, very outspoken
HOW CAN A BABY BE OUTSPOKEN???
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Sorry this is so disjointed and long, but it took me a coupe of hrs to put together and isn't even complete, but the inconsistencies aka lies and the snippets above lead me to believe that Billie is in full blown defense mode of SA, and tossing others or thrying to under the bus like MB, MB's mother, Clint and Naomi and now her own version of cousin Joe, so I have to consider she was involved in either the disappearance or the coverup after the fact........
