Lively Case Discussion #548 11/26 - 11/27/2006

[LilPuma]

Oh, almost forgot about FBI sharing info:  

While we think of our FBI as being straight-laced oatmeal cookie types, our government has agencies such as the CIA and DEA that deal in manipulations, leaking info, disinformation, and more clandestine types of activities.  No doubt if it served their purposes in catching some of the big fish or putting them out of business, there could be a "leak" with regard to the Slooties.  Or it could be someone with access to this info pulling a "deep throat".  

Finally, I want to repeat one thing we know for sure:  

DeVries is hot.  Sizzlin'.  

[LilPuma]

Monkeys are quiet now.  Shhhhhhhhh.  Maybe they're napping.  

Klaas, I just posted over on o/t and got the dreaded DEBUG message.  

[memphis]

<SNIP>

DeVries:  
I think he found conflicts of interest and lame-brain decisions that shout coverup.  Who he's going to "out" remains to be seen, but that's what I think the deal is.

I agree.

[memphis]

<SNIP>  

Finally, I want to repeat one thing we know for sure:  

DeVries is hot.  Sizzlin'.  

I agree.

 

[Anna]

Oh, almost forgot about FBI sharing info:  

While we think of our FBI as being straight-laced oatmeal cookie types, our government has agencies such as the CIA and DEA that deal in manipulations, leaking info, disinformation, and more clandestine types of activities.  No doubt if it served their purposes in catching some of the big fish or putting them out of business, there could be a "leak" with regard to the Slooties.  Or it could be someone with access to this info pulling a "deep throat".  

Finally, I want to repeat one thing we know for sure:  

DeVries is hot.  Sizzlin'.  

You are right, LilPuma on both counts.  We do have ways of planting disinformation as well as leaking information.  Better listen to her, too, monkeys, for otherwise, she might scratch you!  




But as I understoond Joran's arrival, it was customs who detained him as he was on some sort of watch list.  That could be because he was a suspect in a murder investigation?  Not sure.  

And deVries is very hot.  Maybe the Dutch are into sending the ugly ones to Aruba, lol.  Just kidding!  





I'm going to get things caught up around here so I will be able to read during the deVries show uninterrupted, hopefully.




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[Kat_Gram]

The DEA agent was called by the FBI in the USA to assist the HT's once they got there.  He was on " vacation "
They certainly aren't going to tell us why so many FBI were there so quickly. I always thought it was because it was a suspected kidnapping at first and the early reports had Natalee leaving C & c's with a local drug dealer.

[memphis]

Oh, almost forgot about FBI sharing info:  

While we think of our FBI as being straight-laced oatmeal cookie types, our government has agencies such as the CIA and DEA that deal in manipulations, leaking info, disinformation, and more clandestine types of activities.  No doubt if it served their purposes in catching some of the big fish or putting them out of business, there could be a "leak" with regard to the Slooties.  Or it could be someone with access to this info pulling a "deep throat".  

Finally, I want to repeat one thing we know for sure:  

DeVries is hot.  Sizzlin'.  

This is really OT, but your description above reminded me of that show from the 80's, Scarecrow and Mrs. King. I loved that show. Anyone remember?  

[klaasend]

Monkeys are quiet now.  Shhhhhhhhh.  Maybe they're napping.  

Klaas, I just posted over on o/t and got the dreaded DEBUG message.  

Tom noticed that the DeBug message seems to show up when a thread gets long.  I may have to lock that thread.  Tom's going to be very busy today so I hope we don't have any unresolvable problems  

[carpe noctem]

LIAR LIAR HIS PANTALOONS

ARE ON FIRE

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6/10/2005

Joran ALE Statement

To you question as to whether I am under treatment from a doctor, I answer you that I am not. I am being treated by a dentist because I have toothache. I am also under treatment of
a psychologist. This because I felt bad about the fact that the girl had gone missing.

Before the girl went missing I was also under treatment of a psychologist. This was because I had taken 50 euro's from my dad and also took money from my mother and I used my brothers
mobile phone without asking for permission and after that I had broken the chip from his mobile phone. I also once fought with my brother in Miami but we are good friends now. My brother is fifteen (15) years old and his name is "Valentijn". He is the one I would like to talk to.

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3/2006 Greta on Fox


Interviewer:  What's the anger management stuff, though? At some point, correct me if I'm wrong, that you were getting some sort of... you know, that... were you going to some courses or classes or something? Was there a problem with that?

Joran van der Sloot:  No, I never went to any.

Interviewer:  Nothing like that? Never been an anger issue?

Joran van der Sloot:  No. Never. No.

Interviewer:  That's just all made up?

Joran van der Sloot:  Yes.

Interviewer:  Totally... totally fiction?

Joran van der Sloot:  Totally made up.

Interviewer:  Ok.

Joran van der Sloot:  Totally fiction.

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Why would he yank the chip from his brother's cell? Was he
trying to score free service by cloning it?

[klaasend]

Dang, I just got the DEBUG error here as well.

[carpe noctem]

I got the message with the last post...

However, it did process my last one. It just looked like it failed
with some message about port 110.

I began noticing it last night.

[Tylergal]

The DEA agent was called by the FBI in the USA to assist the HT's once they got there.  He was on " vacation "
They certainly aren't going to tell us why so many FBI were there so quickly. I always thought it was because it was a suspected kidnapping at first and the early reports had Natalee leaving C & c's with a local drug dealer.

I do believe you are right about that, but I think some of this was picked up on a "bug" but not sure if Natalee's demise was related to the trafficking or just mean people.  I think if her disappearance (death) had been related to human trafficking we would know that by now.  I do have some information about why they would believe she was kidnapped but certain sources do not like that information divulged as it leads to further kidnaps for kash.  

Suppose her disappearance was at the hands of some involved in trafficking and drugging but she did not die as a result of those international criminal involvements, then our DEA and FBI, CIA (at the time) would have their hands tied to relate anything they gleaned from a bug.  

I do believe that Joran was dealing in drugs, and he is the drug dealer she left with and there are people aware of that.  My information has it that he was drug-running for poker tournaments and high rollers, which could involve more than one casino.

[igsigs]

Debug test

test

double-quote test...

[carpe noctem]

Last one went off without any hiccups!

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KALPOES ALE STATEMENTS 5/31/05

Their descriptions do not fit the Holiday Inn Security Guards..

What they describe is the uniform of 'BLACK TEAM MEMBERS'
that ride around the island on night patrol.

KALPOE STATEMENT COMPARISON:


ALE Statement
DEEPAK 5/31
SG Description

On your question if I can give you a better description of the large dark man, who had

walked up to the girl from the lobby, I can tell you the following:
- he is approximately 1.85 meters tall;
- he has a heavy set body;
- he has close-cropped hair;
- he wore a black t-shirt;
- he wore a black cotton long trousers which most of the keepers use and
- he kept walkie talkie in its hands and according to me he spoke by means of the walkie

talkie.
If I see the guard again, I will recognize him.

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ALE Statement

SATISH 5/31

SG Description

On your question if I can give you the description of large dark guard, who stood at the

lobby and walked up to the girl when we arrived there, I will answer you the following:

- he is approximately 1.70 meters tall;
- he has a strong build;
- he has close-cropped black hair;
- he wore a black t-shirt;
- he wore black cotton long trousers which most of the guards wear and
- he held a walkie talkie in his hands
If I see the guard again, I will not recognize him.

[klaasend]

I got the message with the last post...

However, it did process my last one. It just looked like it failed
with some message about port 110.

I began noticing it last night.

It has something to do with the email on the front page.  Tom has got it fixed now.

[scared-tom]

Debug test

test

double-quote test...

issue fixed. sorry for the headache

Tom

[Lala'sMom]

Hi Monskters!!  Is there any thing I can help you with Klaas?  I will monitor any site that will allow me in.  Just let me know.  I have my hall monitor badge at the ready...in case it's needed.

[klaasend]

Hi Monskters!!  Is there any thing I can help you with Klaas?  I will monitor any site that will allow me in.  Just let me know.  I have my hall monitor badge at the ready...in case it's needed.

Too funny Lala's!

Here are the sites and posters to be watching:

SM front page:

Amsterdamned
Arubaanse

Blogs for Natalee:

Rammstein
Mitral Valve

Refugees:

Lazlo
Dugo
HannieC

Freedom of Blog:

Victor
Tjeerd

[Buckeye]

Lala's
Did you see Colombo's post under the "Joran and the Beach" thread?  He posted yesterday. I think he's still on the possible MJ relationship. You'd understand it best.

[San]

http://www.peterrdevries.nl/



On the De Vries promo, there is a clip of a polis officer twirling his klop (batton) in front of the station.  

MF wrote at FOB  

Before we start though, just wanted to make clear.

The Police officer (S.S.) on the promo that was playing with his "klop" in front of the Oranjestad station was not aware that he was being filmed nor he had idea that his images were being used as a promo in a program that is known in the Netherlands to slander everything law, judicial system and police.

This guy looks familiar.