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Re: Camille Cleverly 22yr old Missing Provo Utah 8/30/07(BODY FOUND 9/9)
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Quote from: bleachedblack on September 09, 2007, 09:32:41 PM
Maybe I am not following the events closely enough but something just doesn't add up here. Camille didn't return home after heading out for a bike ride. The day after she was last seen her debit card is used at a convenience store to buy juice and donuts. Bike found with 2 flat tires. Camille's body is found at the foot of Bridal Veil Falls cliff.
How likely is it for a bike to get 2 flat tires? Did she stay out all night and then decide to have a snack and continue riding climbing? After reaching the top of the cliff she
fell
off? Maybe it's just me.........
I agree, something isn't adding up. Hopefully it will become clearer in coming days.
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Re: Camille Cleverly 22yr old Missing Provo Utah 8/30/07(BODY FOUND 9/9)
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I am sure you are right
Klaas
, the truth will come out. Sorry my previous post should have read
fall
not
fell
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Re: Camille Cleverly 22yr old Missing Provo Utah 8/30/07(BODY FOUND 9/9)
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Could she have rode over something that caused the tire to go flat then darkness fell, causing her to lose her way and fall over the cliff?
There are places within half a mile from my house where a person could just step off a 200 ft bluff with no guard rail, warning, etc. Just bushes that hide the edge of the bluffs. Not a place to be in the dark at all.
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Nah, that wouldn't explain how her debit card was used. Unless she had dropped it trying to find her way and somebody found it. But most likely, it was taken from her at some point by parties unknown.
Something doesn't add up is right.
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Re: Camille Cleverly 22yr old Missing Provo Utah 8/30/07(BODY FOUND 9/9)
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http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695208770,00.html
Camille's body is found
Searchers locate the missing BYU student east of Bridal Veil Falls
By Elizabeth Stuart
Deseret Morning News
Published: Sept. 10, 2007 12:08 a.m. MDT
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Police had not determined the cause of death Sunday but said Cleverley "succumbed to her injuries." Pending completion of a full investigation, police did not rule anything out, including suicide and foul play.
After speaking with Cleverley's parents, Joel and Susan, Bardsley said the family seemed to be "doing real well."
"I am glad for the family: They got their closure," he said. "At least they know where she is."
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What ever the cause of Camille's being at the bottom of Bridal Veil Falls cliff, "succumbed to her injuries" sounds as though she were alive prior to the fall. It can mean she fell, it can mean she was thrown or pushed. Who would do anything like that to such a beautiful girl?
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Re: Camille Cleverly 22yr old Missing Provo Utah 8/30/07(BODY FOUND 9/9)
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So very sad. I am completely confused though. It doesn't sound like an accident to me either.
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I guess we will just have to wait and see, as usual. It broke my heart to read the headline though. The only solace I can think of in this situation is that at least the family is no longer in limbo as far as wondering where she is. Now the investigation and hopefully it was a tragic accident, but the details just don't add up that way right now. I wish them peace and closure. RIP Camille
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Body of Missing BYU Student Found in Canyon
Monday, September 10, 2007
PROVO, Utah — The mayor ordered flags lowered to half staff on Monday after a 10-day search for an a Brigham Young University coed ended where it began in earnest — near a popular canyon waterfall where her body was found at the bottom of a hanging cliff.
Search crews in Provo Canyon had spent days gingerly climbing around 607-foot Bridal Veil Falls, but wasn't until Sunday afternoon that they stumbled across the woman's body a quarter mile from the falls at the base of a 200-foot cliff, said Utah County Sheriff James O. Tracy.
Tracy said it appeared Camille Cleverley, 22, had made her way up a rocky talus slope halfway up the falls, then followed a series of angled ledges to an outcrop where she fell. Her body was found hidden by pine trees and heavy brush on the steep slope.
Authorities early on scoured the canyon bike trails up to the falls, about 10 miles from her off-campus apartment, but found no sign of Cleverley or her only transportation, a mountain bike. Then, on Friday, a teenage couple came forward with a bicycle matching the description of Cleverley's, saying they took it from Bridal Veil Falls two nights after she disappeared.
Cleverley's parents, from Boise, Idaho, joined hundreds of students on Sunday night for a vigil-turned-memorial that echoed Mormon beliefs of eternal family afterlife at the school owned by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Cleverly was majoring in marriage, family and human development at BYU's School of Family Life who recently completed a church mission in Germany.
She had been scheduled to start her senior year on Sept. 4.
"We're very grateful for Camille's exemplary life," said her father, Joel Cleverley, referring to the mission, an option for Mormon women that is considered hard duty by the men. "She's had some trials this past year, and was prepared to meet her maker."
Her mother, Susan, thanked everyone involved in the search and said she believed her daughter was happy to be found.
"She was a great sister and I'm really sad that she's gone," said David Cleverley, Camille's brother.
Provo Mayor Lewis Billings ordered flags lowered to half staff Monday in honor of Camille, who "became one of us" when she first arrived at the university. "And now we mourn her passing."
Investigators, meanwhile, scoured the cliffs around Bridal Veil Falls, trying to determine how she fell to her death. The Utah medical examiner's office took her body from the canyon Sunday evening.
Inside her backpack were bottles of fruit drink authorities determined she bought with a debit card the day she was last seen bicycling in town.
She also bought chocolate-covered doughnuts with the purchase.
Her body had injuries consistent with a severe fall, but it was too early to rule out foul play, Provo police Capt. Cliff Argyle said.
"How she ended up there, we're not sure," Argyle said.
Authorities said it was possible for a hiker without ropes to reach the cliff where she fell, though most people stay closer to the falls. More than a dozen people, including children, were climbing th falls Sunday even as her body was being recovered.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296218,00.html
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Just thinking about the debit purchase. It is entirely possible she did make the purchase and it didn't show up on her transaction report at the bank until the next day. I've had that happen often to me when I go to the convenience store.
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Quote from: MsVada on September 10, 2007, 09:21:53 PM
Just thinking about the debit purchase. It is entirely possible she did make the purchase and it didn't show up on her transaction report at the bank until the next day. I've had that happen often to me when I go to the convenience store.
Very possible MsD. But whenever she made the purchase....it does appear she had the 2 bottles of juice in her backpack still at the time her body was found.
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Re: Camille Cleverly 22yr old Missing Provo Utah 8/30/07(BODY FOUND 9/9)
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Transaction date and posting date can be different and sometimes the merchant's computer simply stores all the transactions and then sends them at one time during the nighttime hours. Also merchant's computer can have a different time clock setting.
Bicycle: Kudos to the thieves who atleast came forward and produced the bike.
Flat tires: I wonder too. Usually a well maintained mountain bike would be in good condtion and two flats is suggestive of a parking lot accident or something involving a motor vehicle which would mean she took the bike to the rack to lock it and then accepted a lift from the nice motorist who had accidentally struck her. Nothing about the body indicates a crime however.
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Sep 10, 2007 9:56 pm US/Mountain
No Sign Of Foul Play In Camille Cleverley's Death
PROVO - The investigation into the death of a Brigham Young University student whose body was found in Provo Canyon has turned up no evidence of foul play so far, Provo police said Monday.
The body of Camille Cleverley, 22, was discovered Sunday by searchers at the base of a 200-foot cliff, 10 days after she was last seen.
Utah County Sheriff James Tracy said it appeared she had made her way up a rocky talus slope halfway up Bridal Veil Falls, then followed a series of angled ledges to an outcrop where she fell. Her body was hidden by pine trees and heavy brush on the steep slope.
An autopsy was performed Monday, but the results will not be immediately released, Provo police Capt. Cliff Argyle said.
``Nothing we have found so far has pointed us toward foul play,'' he said.
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http://kutv.com/local/local_story_253235719.html
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