Natalee Case Discussion #701 12/5 - 12/6/2007

[LilPuma]

You all aren't getting the whole picture. It all started because Natalee was sloppy drunk and hyped on cocaine and vamped Joran from dancing on the bar and then begging him to take jelly shots. None of this would have happened had she just been able to understand that he couldn't ravage her because he didn't have a condom! 

I recall an Aruban woman, protesting against Beth, telling Greta that there was no crime, Natalee got into the car with J2K willingly.  This is the face of Aruba's tourism. 

[klaasend]

Posted at RU:

Siddalee Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:17 pm   
THE LATEST TIME OF RELEASE

Glenda currently does not have computer access at Kia but wants you to know the judge is still in chambers reviewing the case and Joran will probably be released at 11:00 tonight (10:00 EST). 

[Puzzler]

I want to throw something.  Break something.  Like the head of JVDS or Judge Smid or Van der Straaten and Dennis Jacobs. 

I think Mos had something new.  How could they not with all the time they re-investigated.  He talked a good game in the hopes J2K would panic and give more information.  Unfortunately, these guys know that the legal system in Aruba is well slanted in their favor.  What's inexcusable is leading the family to believe they had something solid.  Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

I posted on the FP this week that Louis A. Posner is president of Aruba Aloe.  Anyone know if he's related to Michael Posner? 

Wonder what Mos thinks of the judge(s) he's come up against in Aruba?

[MuffyBee]

Please light a candle and say a prayer for Natalee:

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=NAH

Godspeed Tim Miller, the crew and ship.  Praying Natalee will be found and taken home.

[the big hammer]

Mos = Incompetent

******* writes: "I certainly do not think Mos is genuine and honest with the facts after what he told Natalee's family. But if he was,then he certainly got a wake up call what he is up against. He's an absolute fool thinking he could blame the family and the media. How can he solve this case if he is giving immunity to the obvious dirtbags that destroyed evidence,killed this case and know the truth? "

Certainly that's one way to smoke out the truth.

The other night on Greta, JQ Kelly called Mos "incompetent," without actually saying so out loud.  He let Greta say it instead, and she did, a few times: "incompetent."

They were both right.

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[klaasend]

Posted at RU:

Siddalee Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:17 pm   
THE LATEST TIME OF RELEASE

Glenda currently does not have computer access at Kia but wants you to know the judge is still in chambers reviewing the case and Joran will probably be released at 11:00 tonight (10:00 EST). 

[Tylergal]

Yes.   My understanding is that everything had to be put in another family member's name given Michael's criminal status.  Yes, the same Mike Posner that some of the Aruban oracles referred to as a fine citizen.

[Nut44x4]

I knew better than to throw Clinton into any conversation, cause it seems the world is divided into the hate him or love him, and his wife surely doesn't need him adopting a potentially polarizing issue. However, while one can debate his moral compass, his past record of abstinence of sins of the flesh, his forthrightness concerning those transgressions, it is much more difficult to debate his brilliance, his innate need to please, his administrations accurate assessment of Aruba as a cesspool of drug trafficking etc, and nor his political acumen. So in the interest of world peace, I retract his name from my wish list and your silence on the subject will be taken as an AMEN:))))))))

I don't think anyone's response was a slam at you in any way.  You know that Clinton has his eye on that United Nations job...he won't hurt those chances and given the reputation and history of UN voting...you don't bit the hand that feeds you.   

Sorry privateeye...I was just thinking more along the lines of Gloria Allred
http://www.gloriaallred.com/

[crazybabyborg]

Have any of you seen or heard anything in the news about Joran's release?

Mere, I haven't seen anything in the news. It's just been posted here that Joran is free. I don't even know if they've gone through the formality of hearing yet.

Mere, we need a little laugh, and this makes me smile and think of you: 

Do you have a cow?

    
No mere, I have exclusive rights to the cow. I recently retired the pig and moved on up.

I'm currently hunting for a buffalo to reflect my butt and an elephant to match my legs.

[Observer]

[Tamikosmom]

As I just related in an email to a discouraged friend ...

Do not give up yet.  God is still on His throne and He is the author of each of our lives and only He knows what the last chapter of Natalee Holloway's life story is going to reveal.  I wish I could peek at that last chapter but ... this is what is referred to as "Waiting on God".

Janet

[crazybabyborg]

Posted at RU:

Siddalee Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:17 pm   
THE LATEST TIME OF RELEASE

Glenda currently does not have computer access at Kia but wants you to know the judge is still in chambers reviewing the case and Joran will probably be released at 11:00 tonight (10:00 EST). 

There you go again. Every post of yours pulls my heart strings one way or another. Now, despite what my brain screams to me, there's a pesky little glimmer of hope.

[Mere]

NYC....where did you get your information?

[klaasend]

Posted at RU:

Siddalee Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:17 pm   
THE LATEST TIME OF RELEASE

Glenda currently does not have computer access at Kia but wants you to know the judge is still in chambers reviewing the case and Joran will probably be released at 11:00 tonight (10:00 EST). 

[San]

So we are to believe that she died of a self induced overdose and they panicked and disposed of her?

To me, this would be worse for Aruba than just dropping the case. And on top of that if Natalee's remains are found, another bad thing for Aruba.

What happened to the kidnapping charges?

This is exactly what they want us to believe.  They have been trying this pitiful excuse for a long time and it just has not stuck.  They brought in this new prosecutor who most thought (not me) was going to finally bring some sort of justice.  He gained everyones trust and then pulled the rug right from underneath us.

Someone asked a question last night so what next.  This is exactly what Aruba wants us to do.  They want us to close shop and stop bringing the unwanted attention to their island so they can continue with their daily activity of drug smuggling, money laundering, drugging tourists and raping them and no will will have to suffer the consequences.

So we either think of other ways to bring the attention to what they are doing so no other tourist is ever harmed on that POS island or we say goodbye.

I'm not ready to say goodbye so for me it is spread the word and continue to BOYCOTT ARUBA.

[crazybabyborg]

So we are to believe that she died of a self induced overdose and they panicked and disposed of her?

To me, this would be worse for Aruba than just dropping the case. And on top of that if Natalee's remains are found, another bad thing for Aruba.

What happened to the kidnapping charges?

This is exactly what they want us to believe.  They have been trying this pitiful excuse for a long time and it just has not stuck.  They brought in this new prosecutor who most thought (not me) was going to finally bring some sort of justice.  He gained everyones trust and then pulled the rug right from underneath us.

Someone asked a question last night so what next.  This is exactly what Aruba wants us to do.  They want us to close shop and stop bringing the unwanted attention to their island so they can continue with their daily activity of drug smuggling, money laundering, drugging tourists and raping them and no will will have to suffer the consequences.

So we either think of other ways to bring the attention to what they are doing so no other tourist is ever harmed on that POS island or we say goodbye.

I'm not ready to say goodbye so for me it is spread the word and continue to BOYCOTT ARUBA.

YES, YES, YES!!! POST OF THE DAY, RIGHT HERE!!!!

[Observer]

[Anna]

Instead of



We got





Guess Hans forgot to tell us to whose benefit this would be.  Apparently, the suspects.  Just beyond cruel is all I can say.

.

[San]

Yeah, I'm not sure that book was ever published. I wonder what happened to good ol' Stanley. Is he still alive? 
(j/k, can't help myself...Aruba's one big, sick, twisted joke, IMO)

 

What I would like to know is if that book was never published was there at least a copy of what Stanley wrote (notes) floating around.

[truthseeker2]

Can anyone here get in touch with Jossy?  i know someone here communicates with him.

I just emailed him to see if he's heard the news as well.

Thanks!