Lively Case Discussion #552 12/1 - 12/3/2006

[Ono]

I did not know that Jossy had a tape, but Dompig has said this before.
The problem is that Joran told so many stories at different times that
how can they pick ONE out and make it stick ? Because he denied it later. And they have nothing but witness who were later suspects who constantly changed their stories. Without any sort of outside evidence,
with the only " evidence " coming from the prime suspect who recants,  
how can they lay the charges ?
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The judge, don't know which one ( s ) was well aware of these stories and still let them out.

As Jossy said a long time ago: it's the judiciary at fault. I read some of what Rammerstein posted today in his frantic defense of the judges, and the poor guy doesn't even realize that he is defending tyrants and tyrannical behaviour. The judges totally rule there...they are mini-kings. No wonder Paulus wanted to become one. They have total power. Corruption reigns supreme

Is Rammstein one of Paulus' friends?  I have always thought so.

I also have wondered; Well, whoever he is, he is totally oblivious to the fact that a legal system which gives all powers to the judiciary, is a flawed legal system which gives no thought or consideration to the inherantly flawed human condition and it's many temptations, especially of those in high office. No wonder Aruba is as it is.

[crazybabyborg]

I'm just musing out loud here, but if we take what Jossy said literally, all we have is that Dompig says he has enough to get a rape/kidnapping. This case has taught us all that all that means is that there is a statement by the one time chief investigator (video ot taped) with an opinion. Without the evidence to back that statement up, it's worthless. My question is ,"Based on what, and is it hard enough to stick?"

See the patience in that rant?   It's only the curiosity that comes through, right?  

[Sue]

Dana
any chance you can get De Vries on the show??

[crazybabyborg]

Sorry, but I'm on a roll here................

I, too, feel that there is WAY ENOUGH circumstantial evidence to convict of rape, kidnapping, AND murder, but obviously the powers that be in Aruba, disagree. Wouldn't they just "disagree" with Dompig, too? Unless there is NEW evidence, it seems to me that Aruba's judicial system has already determined the veracity of existing evidence.

Does that make sense to anyone but me?

[Altruist]

CBB, it makes sense to me too.  At this point I am wondering if we will be hearing that the case will be prosecuted in the Netherlands with Karin Janssen as the Head Prosecutor.

[crazybabyborg]

If somebody doesn't say something, I'll just keep talking.  

If the case to be made was against LE, then I agree, there is mounting hard evidence. The DeVries interview establishes progress in that direction. I'm looking for "stickable" evidence toward the perps, that Aruba hasn't already determined to ignore.

OK, I quit.  

[crazybabyborg]

CBB, it makes sense to me too.  At this point I am wondering if we will be hearing that the case will be prosecuted in the Netherlands with Karin Janssen as the Head Prosecutor.

It would be encouraging to hear that an Aruban or Caracau (sp?) judge would not have impact on anything. Wow, anybody other than a "friend of the family" would be good news.

[Anna]

CBB, it makes sense to me too.  At this point I am wondering if we will be hearing that the case will be prosecuted in the Netherlands with Karin Janssen as the Head Prosecutor.

 

Yes, I am afraid any statement will be made out to have been made prior to some new evidence being brought forward that changes everything.  But I like this line of thought and there is legal precedent for Dutch having been tried and convicted in the NL for crimes committed in other countries.

Not sure this will ever happen but I do like the idea.

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[Altruist]

Well, if there is to be a follow-up DeVries television then we know there is more information that has not been made public.

Seems the information will eventually sift out just at a much slower pace than NH deserves.

[crazybabyborg]

Well, if there is to be a follow-up DeVries television then we know there is more information that has not been made public.

Seems the information will eventually sift out just at a much slower pace than NH deserves.

The best thing KJ could do is to introduce DeVries as a witness, and then sit down and shut up.

[Altruist]

Well along with the perpetrator's being brought to account for their miserable deeds I am truly hoping that those who have been the corruption stalling this & hindering NH from having a proper burial & her family from receiving her back home are totally prosecuted & serve as long, if not a longer, sentence along with the guilty for as far as I am concerned they chose to become accomplices & deserve to be punished severely.

[Altruist]

Forgot to add:

PVDS is a Criminal NOT a Genius.

[Altruist]

Forgot to add:

PVDS is a Criminal NOT a Genius.

IMO

[Katysmom]

I'm just sorry that DeVries didn't get involved sooner.  We're on the clock and time is running out.  I believe he said he would be doing at least one follow-up show, possibly two.

[Ono]

I followed the case of Laci Peterson & can recall that the sperm & egg donor's of the murderer wanted to publish a book of lies & NO PUBLISHER came forward with a deal for them as ALL THE PUBLISHERS KNEW THERE WOULD BE NO MARKET FOR THE LIES UTTERED BY SUPPORTER'S OF A MURDERER.

Thanks to Laci's wonderful mother and family and attorney and the California Legal System, for Scott Peterson to profit from murdering his wife, was not allowed. It was NOT due to any publisher's conscience. If only the magnificent Modesto Police had been in charge of Natalee's disappearance, we would not be here today and the case would have been solved and positively prosecuted. Instead we are all asked to rely on a legal system so foreign and so illusive,  that justice will never be served if the criminals have anything to do with it. Things are upside down on that stinking island called Aruba. But truth will out, no matter how arrogant those on Aruba are.

[justinsmama]

Peaches, how are you feeling?

Another day on the daisy side of the dirt.  Now that I have had my coffee and some Percoset, I am pretty good.  I'm nearly caught up here and that's always good.  So I'm getting psyched to watch the Huskers play Oklahoma tonite.  That should be a great game.  Such an old rivalry.

Are you still having bone pain?  

Yes.  It's very weird.  Comes and goes.  Usually happens in the big bones like femur, hips, back.  Percoset works well.

Have you talked with your onclogist about this pain yet? I'm worried, Peaches.

[crazybabyborg]

Merry Christmas, Anna!  

[justinsmama]

That would be oncologist.

[Anna]

Merry Christmas, Anna!  

Thanks so much, CBB!  I love it.       Yes, I am decorating both here and in real life at home!

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[crazybabyborg]

Merry Christmas, Anna!  

Thanks so much, CBB!  I love it.       Yes, I am decorating both here and in real life at home!

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LOL! I've got to get off here and get started. You didn't have to use it, feel free to replace without hurting my feelings, I was just looking at hats and thought it might work on your avatar.