Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR #32 10/02/10 - 10/07/10

[Claycat]

Source: Kyron search now a recovery effort

http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/topstories/story/Source-Kyron-search-now-a-recovery-effort/TK8a5e4l6kamcz-eOG46Fw.cspx

I'm not surprised.  I believe they know he is dead.  They just need to find his body.   

[Grey]

Something may happen soon. Tuba is watching the stars.

Post #453
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5661198

In Post #454 she mentions linden trees. She has mentioned those before but later found they can be found throughout the Portland area. They are not native to Portland.

[Grey]

Source: Kyron search now a recovery effort

http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/topstories/story/Source-Kyron-search-now-a-recovery-effort/TK8a5e4l6kamcz-eOG46Fw.cspx

I'm not surprised.  I believe they know he is dead.  They just need to find his body.   

Yeah. Too many ground searches in too many areas. Sad but obvious.

[Claycat]

Can any of the locals answer this?  Are there any areas of quicksand on Sauvie Island?

[Puzzler]

Source: Kyron search now a recovery effort

http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/topstories/story/Source-Kyron-search-now-a-recovery-effort/TK8a5e4l6kamcz-eOG46Fw.cspx

I'm not surprised.  I believe they know he is dead.  They just need to find his body.   

Yeah. Too many ground searches in too many areas. Sad but obvious.

Agree.  Obvious, but really sad to see it stated in the news.  I'm sure Desiree is devastated.

[fatcatlurker]

Source: Kyron search now a recovery effort

http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/topstories/story/Source-Kyron-search-now-a-recovery-effort/TK8a5e4l6kamcz-eOG46Fw.cspx

I wonder what this means;

Investigators still have not named Terri Horman, Kyron's stepmother, a person of interest, but new evidence could tie her to Sauvie Island, where searchers were seen last weekend.

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I've felt LE knew it was a recovery from very early on.  There actions kinds looked that way to me.  jmo. 

[wildmala]

Source: Kyron search now a recovery effort

http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/topstories/story/Source-Kyron-search-now-a-recovery-effort/TK8a5e4l6kamcz-eOG46Fw.cspx

I wonder what this means;

Investigators still have not named Terri Horman, Kyron's stepmother, a person of interest, but new evidence could tie her to Sauvie Island, where searchers were seen last weekend.

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I've felt LE knew it was a recovery from very early on.  There actions kinds looked that way to me.  jmo. 

I wonder if it is at all tied to the mention from Blink about info gathered wednesday before last?  (or was it last Wednesday?)...can't remember.

[klaasend]

May have already been posted:

http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/topstories/story/Source-Kyron-search-to-continue-this-weekend/TK8a5e4l6kamcz-eOG46Fw.cspx


Source: Kyron search to continue this weekend; Kaine, Terri in court

Published: 6:42 am
Last Update: 8:49 am


Investigators still have not named Terri Horman, Kyron Horman's stepmother, a person of interest, but new evidence could tie her to Sauvie Island, where searchers were seen last weekend.

Over 160 searchers combed parts of the island Oct. 2 and 3, and will be back on Oct. 9 and 10 to search for the missing boy.

One source told KOIN Local 6 that searchers were in the area following up on cell phone pings from the area.

That source said those pings were linked to Terri Horman's cell phone back on June 4th, the day Kyron was last seen.

Investigators said they may be able to find new evidence because weather has changed, making some sections of the island easier to get to.

Also Thursday divorce proceedings and an order to show cause will be heard in a Multnomah County courtroom.

At issue: whether the divorce will be held in abatement and where Terri got the alleged $350,000 in attorney fees to pay Stephen Houze.

For the latest on today's court proceedings, stay tuned to KOINLocal6.com and follow KOIN on twitter.

[klaasend]

http://twitter.com/KOIN_Local_6

#    Judge Keith Meisenheimer, who will hear arguments in the Kaine/Terri proceedings just arrived.     2 minutes ago  via web

# Terri Horman and Kaine Horman both at the Multco Courthouse for abatement, show cause proceeding #kyronhorman 10 minutes ago via web

# Source: Kyron search now a recovery effort - http://bit.ly/9MB1Ca about 1 hour ago via TweetDeck

[klaasend]

http://twitter.com/KOIN_Local_6

#    Judge Keith Meisenheimer, who will hear arguments in the Kaine/Terri proceedings just arrived.     2 minutes ago  via web

# Terri Horman and Kaine Horman both at the Multco Courthouse for abatement, show cause proceeding #kyronhorman 10 minutes ago via web

# Source: Kyron search now a recovery effort - http://bit.ly/9MB1Ca about 1 hour ago via TweetDeck

 Divorce abatement for Terri, Kaine will be held first; order to show cause for suit money to follow #kyronhorman     less than 20 seconds ago  via web 

[fatcatlurker]

Source: Kyron search now a recovery effort

http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/topstories/story/Source-Kyron-search-now-a-recovery-effort/TK8a5e4l6kamcz-eOG46Fw.cspx

I wonder what this means;

Investigators still have not named Terri Horman, Kyron's stepmother, a person of interest, but new evidence could tie her to Sauvie Island, where searchers were seen last weekend.

_____________________________________________________________________________

I've felt LE knew it was a recovery from very early on.  There actions kinds looked that way to me.  jmo. 

I wonder if it is at all tied to the mention from Blink about info gathered wednesday before last?  (or was it last Wednesday?)...can't remember.

Pure speculation on my part;  Maybe they have received video footage from that long list of streets/businesses they asked for awhile ago?   I'm wracking my brain as to what could have turned up that they didn't already have.  JMO.

[jill]

video of arrival:

http://www.kgw.com/video?id=104495219&sec=547977

[klaasend]

Kaine and Terri arriving at court this morning:

[jill]

hey guys - heads up that the 3 boys are found safe, amber alert is over:

http://www.kirotv.com/news/25308807/detail.html

[Tamikosmom]

May have already been posted:

http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/topstories/story/Source-Kyron-search-to-continue-this-weekend/TK8a5e4l6kamcz-eOG46Fw.cspx


Source: Kyron search to continue this weekend; Kaine, Terri in court

Published: 6:42 am
Last Update: 8:49 am


Investigators still have not named Terri Horman, Kyron Horman's stepmother, a person of interest, but new evidence could tie her to Sauvie Island, where searchers were seen last weekend.

Over 160 searchers combed parts of the island Oct. 2 and 3, and will be back on Oct. 9 and 10 to search for the missing boy.

One source told KOIN Local 6 that searchers were in the area following up on cell phone pings from the area.

That source said those pings were linked to Terri Horman's cell phone back on June 4th, the day Kyron was last seen.

Investigators said they may be able to find new evidence because weather has changed, making some sections of the island easier to get to.

Also Thursday divorce proceedings and an order to show cause will be heard in a Multnomah County courtroom.

At issue: whether the divorce will be held in abatement and where Terri got the alleged $350,000 in attorney fees to pay Stephen Houze.

For the latest on today's court proceedings, stay tuned to KOINLocal6.com and follow KOIN on twitter.

Between the times of 7:58 AM (below) and 8:49 AM (above) ... the mention of a recovery effort was edited from the report.

Maybe the "source" was not reliable.

Janet

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Source: Kyron search now a recovery effort

Published: 6:42 am
Last Update: 7:58 am

The search for Kyron Horman has now become a recovery effort, a source tells KOIN Local 6.

Investigators still have not named Terri Horman, Kyron's stepmother, a person of interest, but new evidence could tie her to Sauvie Island, where searchers were seen last weekend.

Over 160 searchers combed parts of the island Oct. 2 and 3, and will be back on Oct. 9 and 10 to search for the boy.

One source told KOIN Local 6 that searchers were looking for the Kyron's body, after investigators were following up on cell phone pings from the area.

That source said those pings were linked to Terri Horman's cell phone back on June 4th, the day Kyron was last seen.

Investigators said they may be able to find new evidence because weather has changed, making some sections of the island easier to get to.

Also Thursday divorce proceedings and an order to show cause will be heard in a Multnomah County courtroom.

At issue: whether the divorce will be held in abatement and where Terri got the alleged $350,000 in attorney fees to pay Stephen Houze.

http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/topstories/story/Source-Kyron-search-now-a-recovery-effort/TK8a5e4l6kamcz-eOG46Fw.cspx

[wildmala]

hey guys - heads up that the 3 boys are found safe, amber alert is over:

http://www.kirotv.com/news/25308807/detail.html

Wooo hoo!     Thank you!!!

[fatcatlurker]

video of arrival:

http://www.kgw.com/video?id=104495219&sec=547977

In this...I feel bad for both of them.  JMO.

[can]

Kaine and Terri arriving at court this morning:

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Thanks Klaas.  Kaine looks thin, ashen, bereft, alone. 
So sad.

[klaasend]

http://twitter.com/KOIN_Local_6

#    Judge Keith Meisenheimer, who will hear arguments in the Kaine/Terri proceedings just arrived.     2 minutes ago  via web

# Terri Horman and Kaine Horman both at the Multco Courthouse for abatement, show cause proceeding #kyronhorman 10 minutes ago via web

# Source: Kyron search now a recovery effort - http://bit.ly/9MB1Ca about 1 hour ago via TweetDeck

 Divorce abatement for Terri, Kaine will be held first; order to show cause for suit money to follow #kyronhorman     less than 20 seconds ago  via web 

#    "Anything she says could be fodder for the state as it is gathering evidence," Bunch said of Terri. #kyronhorman     half a minute ago  via web

# Terri's attorney Peter Bunch deeply concerned with her fifth amendment rights in any divorce proceeding. #KyronHorman 1 minute ago via web

[neighbor]

neighbor - hi - welcome and TY for answering our many questions.

Do you know if Skyline School has a basement?
If so, how is it accessed, please.

Don't know.  Puzzler, are you referring to the lower level?  In my limited recollection, from East going West there are two classrooms, the cafeteria, the stairs going up to the office, the library and three more classrooms.  Maybe there is a basement below it all, but that would be new to me.

neighbor - TY
I was referring to a basement.  In a discussion (before you joined SM I believe) about volunteers cleaning up and doing maintenance work at Skyline School in May, a basement was discussed and that lockers and the volunteer room was in the basement.  Tha's what I'm questioning.

For some reason the first floor has also been referred to as the basement floor. Perhaps part of it is under ground since the school is built on a hill. Neighbor, is part of the first floor under ground? Here is a link to ubrmel's map.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t166/ubrmel/KYRON/Maps%20KYRON/BasementFPofSkylineSchool.jpg

and

neighbor - hi - welcome and TY for answering our many questions.

Do you know if Skyline School has a basement?
If so, how is it accessed, please.

Don't know.  Puzzler, are you referring to the lower level?  In my limited recollection, from East going West there are two classrooms, the cafeteria, the stairs going up to the office, the library and three more classrooms.  Maybe there is a basement below it all, but that would be new to me.

neighbor - TY
I was referring to a basement.  In a discussion (before you joined SM I believe) about volunteers cleaning up and doing maintenance work at Skyline School in May, a basement was discussed and that lockers and the volunteer room was in the basement.  Tha's what I'm questioning.

The lockers are in the lower level.  Most people would probably call that the basement.  Like many buildings in this area, the school is build on a slope.

TY - so when you go in the front doors of the school - aren't there stairs going up to a second floor? 

If so, then the main area is the first floor - is that the area that you're saying  "most people would probably call that a basement"?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8661.640
Post 640

If you go to post 640 there is a diagram of the school.  I see the "main entrance" area, which I assume are the double doors entering the school from the front.  Also in that area I see "basement floor plan". Then I see dotted red line section to the left of the library - do you know what that section is?  Could it be stairs down to the basement?  Or is the main entrance really called the basement?

 

Let's follow the names from the floor plan.

• Rooms 100 .. 112 are in the basement.  That includes the library, cafeteria, boiler and locker room.  See
  http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t166/ubrmel/KYRON/Maps%20KYRON/BasementFPofSkylineSchool.jpg
  
• The other rooms are on the 1^st level

The school is on a hill.  The hill slopes down from East to West.

• The East entrance is on the first level.
• The main entrance brings you to a split level.  Up goes to 1^st level; down goes to the basement.
• The basement classrooms 106,109,110 are ground level.
• The ball field is outside below that.

I do not remember details about the location of the locker room except that it is somewhere near the cafeteria.  I would guess it is the unnamed room west of 101B.  I will take a look when I am around there.

Judging from the basement floorplan, the boiler room has a door to the outside and one to the library.