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« Reply #660 on: April 07, 2009, 08:17:15 PM »

One of my favs was when Johan said he interviewed a nut job from Den Dolder that drinks beer with Joran!! 

That was probably Mr. Rammstein - world citizen 
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« Reply #661 on: April 07, 2009, 08:22:59 PM »



Johan, you are forgetting the word SQUARE.

Call some of those experts and they will explain it to you.

This has nothing to do with a square but with a triangle
higher arithmetic Magnolia 




Do they even teach arithmetic at Den Dolder, Johan?


can you post your calculations lifesong ! with a map  etc . thank you !

I do believe that Kyle Kingman made it perfectly clear in his perfessional analysis.

Janet

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To calculate the diagonal you multiply the length of one side of the square by the square root of 2.

Thank you, Janet!!!
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« Reply #662 on: April 07, 2009, 08:24:01 PM »



Johan, you are forgetting the word SQUARE.

Call some of those experts and they will explain it to you.

This has nothing to do with a square but with a triangle
higher arithmetic Magnolia 




Do they even teach arithmetic at Den Dolder, Johan?




can you post your calculations lifesong ! with a map  etc . thank you !


Johan,

How about you respond to Tamikosmom's post regarding Kyle's quotes, measurements and qualifications first?

You have very rudely overlooked her questions and responded instead to mine.  Perhaps you could preface your response to her with an apology and certainly an apology to Magnolia is warranted as well.

Treat the people here with respect, sir, and I'll play "math" with you all damn day.

Sincerely,

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« Reply #663 on: April 07, 2009, 08:29:29 PM »

Calculating...........................

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« Reply #664 on: April 07, 2009, 08:29:56 PM »



Johan, you are forgetting the word SQUARE.

Call some of those experts and they will explain it to you.

This has nothing to do with a square but with a triangle
higher arithmetic Magnolia 




Do they even teach arithmetic at Den Dolder, Johan?


can you post your calculations lifesong ! with a map  etc . thank you !

I do believe that Kyle Kingman made it perfectly clear in his perfessional analysis.

Janet

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To calculate the diagonal you multiply the length of one side of the square by the square root of 2.

Thank you, Janet!!!


108 centimeters = 42.5" inch !!

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« Reply #665 on: April 07, 2009, 08:30:30 PM »

Calculating...........................



 
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« Reply #666 on: April 07, 2009, 08:34:33 PM »

OK, that does it.

I just posted in the wrong thread.  Would someone please delete or move to the Sandra Contu thread and I will go watch NG.

Sorry. 

If you will do this for me, I promise never to ask for an edit ever again.


 

 

 

Anna you had me here.  I thought someone was going to be arrested in the NH case... my heart was beating....and then you said you posted in the wrong thread.  Dang.
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« Reply #667 on: April 07, 2009, 08:35:41 PM »



This is a little off the current day's subject.  A couple of weeks ago, I think, I asked the question and still no answer from the "we know so much more than you do" crowd over at Misery Loves Company.

The question is this:

Since the time that Beth and Dave were finally made aware by Natalee's Freebirds of the hidden ROV videos from the crab trap found during the ocean search and Kyle Kingman's messages, has Louis Schaefer or Tim Trahan made those videos available to Natalee's family to be seen in their entirety?

There has been plenty of time for this to occur.  I am curious if it has.



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« Reply #668 on: April 07, 2009, 08:35:57 PM »

Hubby is hunting for his Abacus which came over on the boat from Japan with his family over fifty years ago.  His calculations are always right on counting those beads.

 

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« Reply #669 on: April 07, 2009, 08:48:42 PM »

 


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4246.msg590244#msg590244

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« Reply #304 on: December 18, 2008, 02:36:11 PM »

"Yes i saw also some bones on the screenshots ( on another pic )
But i have big doubts about the skull.
And if it were human remains were are they Now ?

Yes i saw also some bones on the screenshots"





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« Reply #670 on: April 07, 2009, 09:06:33 PM »

DANA PRETZER SHOW ON NOW!

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« Reply #671 on: April 07, 2009, 09:10:39 PM »

Considering Natalee Holloway's height in comparison to the probable  height of the Aruban diver ... logic dictates that Natalee's body in the fetal position could have easily fit inside the trap.

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The fabric(s?) are not visible on either the Dec 29th or 30th dives. There is about an inch of sand over the fabrics. The fabrics are completely covered. The diver sampled the sand and found the fabric underneath the sand. He then bagged the blue fabric. If the other bag contains fabric, it was also in the sand. There was also something possibly recovered from far inside the trap.  In the video the diver is inside the trap with just below his knees showing. I don't know what was sampled far inside the trap if anything.

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« Reply #672 on: April 07, 2009, 09:35:29 PM »

good evening monkeys
just a thought
i zoomed the image of the cage up to 410 percent
and thee it was i finally seen the skull...i think
its not in a bag but behind them its not white but
dark brown ...it has some sea stuff?? growing just above the eye sockets
...both of which are clearly visable
if you take the drawing of the bone as if it is a snake with
its mouth open the skull is the darker colored thing a few inches to the right
yahoo i finally saw it
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« Reply #673 on: April 07, 2009, 09:40:55 PM »




This comment was posted to the Aruba Boycott blog's 12/14/07 post, which was the day after the 12/13 post about the Persistence.

miracle actually said...
Ramm said the Natalee's body will be found this week. He had read the Dutch investigation files and noticed a statement made by Joran about Koen's boat. However judge Smid will deny the evidence again because nobody know how Natalee got into the crab trap by herself. The Dutch law requires strong witnesses to file murder charges. There are just no witnesses and evidences in this case. FBI says they will accept the remains and take over the case from there based on the treaties signed by the Dutch and American governments. A cold case for the Dutch will be a hot case for USA. When that happens Joran, Deepak and Satish will be on the American government's suspects list website. Joran, Deepak and Satish should not arrive the USA without the companies of their attorneys, and they will escorted to the detention centers for interrogations by the US criminal codes.

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« Reply #674 on: April 07, 2009, 09:42:28 PM »




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« Reply #304 on: December 18, 2008, 02:36:11 PM »

"Yes i saw also some bones on the screenshots ( on another pic )
But i have big doubts about the skull.
And if it were human remains were are they Now ?

Yes i saw also some bones on the screenshots"





Photo Credit:  Johan's Photobucket




And clearly that is NOT a square but a rectangle.  The door was more than one square wide I do believe.

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« Reply #675 on: April 07, 2009, 09:55:31 PM »




http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4246.msg590244#msg590244

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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #786 12/17/08 -
« Reply #304 on: December 18, 2008, 02:36:11 PM »

"Yes i saw also some bones on the screenshots ( on another pic )
But i have big doubts about the skull.
And if it were human remains were are they Now ?

Yes i saw also some bones on the screenshots"





Photo Credit:  Johan's Photobucket




And clearly that is NOT a square but a rectangle.  The door was more than one square wide I do believe.


Your wasting your breath! Johan only sees hermit crabs and pink elephants.
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« Reply #676 on: April 07, 2009, 09:57:51 PM »

Just a "master of the obvious" comment:

If/when NH was placed in the trap, it was not as though they perfectly placed her in it. I'm sure they did not stretch her out as if she were in a coffin. Instead, her lifeless body was probably crammed in the cage in the most inhumane way imaginable. That cage seems more than adequate in size, to me, to serve their evil purpose.
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« Reply #677 on: April 07, 2009, 09:57:51 PM »

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The specific location may be related to the ongoing investigation into this case has not yet published, says spokesperson for the Royal Navy in the Caribbean, Karen Gelijns.
The suspect go-fast was Monday by a U.S. maritime patrol at sea reported. Then the crew got its naval frigate Van Amstel Majesty ordered the vessel to intercept and investigate. The distance of 75 miles between the ship station and the suspect go-fast was quickly overcome when this was stopped. On board were four people, a large amount of fuel and fourteen bales of cocaine about 25 pounds each. The crew of the go-fast to the authorities for further investigation into this drug trafficking case.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #678 on: April 07, 2009, 09:59:16 PM »

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #679 on: April 07, 2009, 10:12:32 PM »

I don't remember who was asking about the post from "Deepak's cousin".  There was a post made to WorldJournier, in Oct.? 2007.  It was almost identical to a post made about "Woman who Dreams" on Brian's site in Aug? 2007.  Both rather out there.

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