Natalee Case Discussion #841 6/22/10 - 6/27/10

[ozziesmom]

bitter and angry according to George, lol

[ozziesmom]

now I guess she wants to give american media interviews??? same chit as dutch interview...

[San]

This boy got chased five years.  He did not have a normal life.


Please this woman is nuts.

[San]

There will be more of the interview tonight on Nightline and tomorrow on GMA.

[ozziesmom]

This boy got chased five years.  He did not have a normal life.


Please this woman is nuts.

She regrets not speaking to Beth, ummmmm...Beth came to your house, Anita!!!!! You described Natalee's underwear!

What a deranged woman.....

[San]

Part of what Anita said on GMA this morning:

I hope that he gets a chance to talk with the parents of Stephany Flores in a normal way and that he can tell them what happened.  And I apologize for them that he’s my son.  He is not a monster and he can be very gentle but it could be that he has a bipolar personality.  I hope he gets the help to be a better human being.

[sylvia]

Gotta head to work so sorry this is written quickly and just a synopsis:
from GMA

Joran left Anita a note saying don't want to go to NL wanted to go to Peru to gamble,  wanted to figure our what he wanted to do with his life.  Anita very angry had planned to send him to clinic in NL to deal w gambling and if there's a personality disorder.
She heard about Stephany couldn't believe it, numb.  Joran on run calls fron taxi she tells him to turn himself in.

When Joran captured - Anita can't believe it's happening again.  Part of me wants to believe it's a dream.  Immediately thought of parents of the girl, hopes to talk to Stephany parent.  Aplogize that he's my son.  Joran is gentle but could be he has bi-polar personality.  Hope he gets the help he needs.  Not going to visit him keep distance, not ready to deal with the emotions.  She's a mom.  If he's guilty needs to be punished.  He didn't have normal life for 5 years.  She believes in karma very strongly.  He didn't do what we told him.

****ok hold on to your corn flakes she gets even more nauseating here******

Regrets not talking to Beth when they were looking for Natalee.  They couldn't get in touch, shielded by media.  wanted to tell her we were doing every thing we could. we tried to get everything out of him that we could but didn't succeed.  no relation any more.  did all she could to help her son he's an adult.

more on nightline tonight.

[San]

More Anita:

I’m not going to visit Joran in Peru.  I don’t have any feeling that it can add up to anything.  I want to keep distance.  I think it will bring emotions up that I am not ready for right now.  I’m not a police officer, I’m a mom.  If he is involved then he needs to be punished.

[Jo-An]

Did GMA show the Dutch interview or did Anita do another interview in English?

[Houdini]

You know, he just might "HAVE" to tell the truth about Natalee this time to get extradited out of Peru.  I just hope he includes all the names of his "real" accomplices.

[San]

More Anita:

Look at his state of mind.  Is that normal?  Does he have a personality disorder?  This boy got chased five years.  He did not have a normal life.  Everywhere where he came people stared at him, buttered him there was almost no place where he was safe.

I believe in Karma.  I believe that very strongly.  I believe if you do things that you shouldn’t do that a lot of shit happens to you.  He didn’t want to listen to his parents.  He didn’t listen to me this last time.  I tried to do my best.  I don’t think I could have done more.

[San]

Did GMA show the Dutch interview or did Anita do another interview in English?

Jo-An this interview was in English.

Either that or I am just an amazing translator....LOL

[Jo-An]

Did GMA show the Dutch interview or did Anita do another interview in English?

Jo-An this interview was in English.

Either that or I am just an amazing translator....LOL

Thanks San!
Well they could have subtitled it!

So I suppose, since she didn´t want to talk to the American press, that the Dutch interviewer also did a segment in English.

[San]

GMA Reporter:

And there is something else that Anita Van der Sloot regrets not doing.  Speaking to Beth Twitty when her daughter Natalee went missing.

ANITA (this part she is speaking in Dutch but it is being translated):

We were not able to get in touch with her.  She was really being shielded by the media.  I can only imagine what was going through her mind.  I tried to put myself in her shoes.  I wanted to just put my arm around her and give her a big big hug.  I really wanted to tell her that we did everything we could.  If Joran had done something wrong or a friend of his or whoever we tried to get that out of him but we didn’t succeed.

GMA Reporter:

And now five years later she herself is a mother in mourning.  Mourning the death of her relationship with her son.

ANITA:

There is no relation.  There is no relation anymore.  No.

[San]

Thanks Sylvia for your synopsis of the interview.

[San]

Did GMA show the Dutch interview or did Anita do another interview in English?

Jo-An this interview was in English.

Either that or I am just an amazing translator....LOL

Thanks San!
Well they could have subtitled it!

So I suppose, since she didn´t want to talk to the American press, that the Dutch interviewer also did a segment in English.

I don't know Jo-An.  It just said GMA Exclusive.  But it said in a heartbreaking interview with a Dutch Television Crew.

[nonesuche]

Hi Jo-An

The video and write-up are already up on the ABC site. Here is the link and you can watch the video, it is in english

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/joran-van-der-sloots-mother-punished-involved-peru/story?id=10986211

[MisGivings]

Some of the very old archived posts about Lorenzo in June 2005:

To American in Aruba: Are you sure about that identity? Fox News says he has the initials SGC and is the son of a prominent member of the judiciary. How can that be, if his father committed suicide?

OK im sosorry for mixign this up...its just i have liek 30 people on my back at the same time and im at work answerign the phone! LOl
ok the Boy taht hsi father commited suicide (Lorenzo is his name) he was arrrested YESTERDAY...the one of TODAY (SGC) i have not been confirmed a name yet...but i dont know who his parents are

IF THEY ARE GUILTY THEY ARE UNLIKELY TO GIVE A STORY THAT LEADS COPS TO EVIDENCE AND WITNESSES.  SO THEY HAVE FOCUSED IT ALL ON THE LIGHTHOUSE WHERE THEY DID NOT GO AND ON THE HOTEL AREA WHERE THEY DID NOT GO EITHER.  JORAN SAID HE WENT HOME.  THEY TORE THAT PLACE APART TOO.  WHAT DID THEY FIND?   NOW, HAVE THEY SEARCHED LORENZO'S BASEMENT YET?  DID WE EVER GET A CORRECT NAME ON LORENZO?

lorenzo:  we do not know his last name.  it is probably not van rijn but van gijn.  if lorenzo is as crazy as we understand him to be from aruban sources, he is probably incapable of runing a business.   i suspect they lost the dealership when the dad suicided.  we really know very little about lorenzo, except he is crazy and organizes parties for money.  wht about max?

Two Max characters, right?
Little Maxito, of tickle.com fame?
Big Max.
Last names similar?  Arends, Arendz??
Who runs those companies today would be good info.

(I'm running so far behind.  Feel like the last runner in a race when I try to keep up)

I remember something being said about finding some of Natalee's clothes in Lorenzo's basement, and a supposed rave party that night.

[Jo-An]

Hi Jo-An

The video and write-up are already up on the ABC site. Here is the link and you can watch the video, it is in english

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/joran-van-der-sloots-mother-punished-involved-peru/story?id=10986211

`This video is not available in certain territories outside of the United States due to rights or contractual limitations.

We apologize for the inconvenience.`

But I guess if she was wearing a white blouse and sitting in the garden, that it´s the same interview/same Dutch tv-crew.

[Blonde]

This woman reporting I think from Aruba on JVM says Paulus had an illigit son who was a drug dealer on Aruba, did we know THAT???????????????????????

Lorenzo van Rijn

Who is the reporter?  I'm not watching.

I don't recognize her, she is American, I know she is not Renho.  Said his nickname was Ecstacy.  I did not know about him.....

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