Lively Case Discussion #582 2/10 - 2/15/2007

[Artcolley]

From the very beginning I thought that Paulus was up to his eyeballs in this tragedy.
One reason is because these so called "Kids" are not bright enough to have thought of all it took to pull this thing together.
The other thing is that I believed the Old Man is/was a pervert and wanted that young girl for himself.
I also believe as this thing unravels, more and more will come out that will prove most of the info here on the monkeys to be true.

ANd, yes. Anita knows exactly what happened and should have been hauled in and questioned.  Perhaps at some point she well.

[Artcolley]

Quite frankly Anita portrays Paulus as this soft spoken man and if you see him in interviews he lays the accent on pretty thick.  Now compare Anita and Paulus' accent.  Anita speaks really well and Paulus pretends he doesn't.  I think it is done by design.  Paulus knows someone has him on tape and he will claim that it is not him my English is not that good.

Paulus is not soft spoken and Tim Miller witnessed that first hand when he blew a gasket in front of his house.

You're right, San, its all part of the act.

[justinsmama]

From the very beginning I thought that Paulus was up to his eyeballs in this tragedy.
One reason is because these so called "Kids" are not bright enough to have thought of all it took to pull this thing together.
The other thing is that I believed the Old Man is/was a pervert and wanted that young girl for himself.
I also believe as this thing unravels, more and more will come out that will prove most of the info here on the monkeys to be true.

ANd, yes. Anita knows exactly what happened and should have been hauled in and questioned.  Perhaps at some point she well.

Art~ I was suspicious of Paulus' level of involvement, though had nothing concrete until this came out. Now that it has, I have to wonder just how complicit was Anita? Was Natalee kept at the Sloot's while Anita was there?

[justinsmama]

Taking it one step further, was Renfro directly involved? Is that the motivation behind her sick campaign?

[MsVada]

of course Anita acted as she has.  She is an obedient wife, she's a powerless Mother/Wife.  Her husband and son run the show and she spends her time trying to hide their double lives and make them look good in the public eye.  



O/T  we got 17" of SNOW and a 2nd day of no school.  Can't wait to get on the snowmobiles.

[Artcolley]

From the very beginning I thought that Paulus was up to his eyeballs in this tragedy.
One reason is because these so called "Kids" are not bright enough to have thought of all it took to pull this thing together.
The other thing is that I believed the Old Man is/was a pervert and wanted that young girl for himself.
I also believe as this thing unravels, more and more will come out that will prove most of the info here on the monkeys to be true.

ANd, yes. Anita knows exactly what happened and should have been hauled in and questioned.  Perhaps at some point she well.

Art~ I was suspicious of Paulus' level of involvement, though had nothing concrete until this came out. Now that it has, I have to wonder just how complicit was Anita? Was Natalee kept at the Sloot's while Anita was there?

Justins, You know, I think Natalee WAS there when Anita came home. In fact, I have toyed with the idea that Anita was instrumental in the disposal aspect of this. Of course, this is all my opionion...but things sure seem that way to me.
If you live in a home you know what goes on in that home. Anita was the woman of that house..she knew. You don't go hiding things like that in that tiny house they live in.

[Leslie]

Let's hope the Aruban public start to ask some questions after they read their newspapers.  This is the first time that I can recall where Paul was brought into the case directly.  I wonder if the public knows that Anita was out of town and that Paul was with Natalee at the casino.  I wish Jossy would print that casino picture.

[Artcolley]

Taking it one step further, was Renfro directly involved? Is that the motivation behind her sick campaign?

WEll, recalling her "involvement" in certain...ahum...industries...that was long ago discussed, she could well have been involved. She sure took great pains to inject herself at every opportunity to throw people off the track, didn't she?
She HAD a motive. Now...what was that motive?
You could be very right on this one, Justins.

[IBE]

Tibrogargan Glad you missed the wait for planes at LAX going to snow cities.

Well, the clean up crew was a class act and sexy too. Thanks My cat and dog didn't want them to finish so they could be around more and perhaps play afterwards. Have you gone to the Party sight to see the going home gifts?
chocky
About Oct of last year, someone posted a monkey massage gif.. we all could use one... with the party, shoveling snow and all.

IndyDan your beautiful picture of MVille IN made me homesick! Looks like the 1/2 acre we had; lots of grass to cut in the summer.

If the sun would shine more during the winter in Indiana, as I understand it does in Colo, even tho cold I could hack it. It was the dark, gray days that got to me after living in CA... the cold I think I could have adjusted to again with hydroponic tomatoes in the basement and an indoor endless pool/sauna. When retired and limited family you sometimes don't have that many places to go. Actually if I were in love there, it would all be brighter anyway!

Is Easter early or late this year... there always seemed to be a snow during Spring Vacation that shocked the daffadills. One school I taught at never had a Spring Vacation so they could get out early in May for the crops (popcorn=all around Lafayette area) One second grade teacher's whole year's salary went to just buying 1 tractor. We made $300 a month then.

To me snow days meant more days of school in June UGH when it was too nice to be in school.

Sorry, after such a nice party among friends last night, I am alittle down this morning.

[Peaches]

FYI - Medleyrelay and Moonshadows are not happy at all with todays ruling.

BFD

Good morning.

[Kimmy53]

From the very beginning I thought that Paulus was up to his eyeballs in this tragedy.
One reason is because these so called "Kids" are not bright enough to have thought of all it took to pull this thing together.
The other thing is that I believed the Old Man is/was a pervert and wanted that young girl for himself.
I also believe as this thing unravels, more and more will come out that will prove most of the info here on the monkeys to be true.

ANd, yes. Anita knows exactly what happened and should have been hauled in and questioned.  Perhaps at some point she well.

Art~ I was suspicious of Paulus' level of involvement, though had nothing concrete until this came out. Now that it has, I have to wonder just how complicit was Anita? Was Natalee kept at the Sloot's while Anita was there?

Justins, You know, I think Natalee WAS there when Anita came home. In fact, I have toyed with the idea that Anita was instrumental in the disposal aspect of this. Of course, this is all my opionion...but things sure seem that way to me.
If you live in a home you know what goes on in that home. Anita was the woman of that house..she knew. You don't go hiding things like that in that tiny house they live in.

I agree with you guys - Anita in the very least knew what went on.  I can't forget sweaty Paulus, and Anita speaking for them.  He was sweating for a reason and it wasn't because he has some kind of condition - he was scared.  He is in it up to his beady eyeballs.  

Leslie - I hope they do start to ask questions...I hope they are sick of the Van der Sloots and the ruin they have brought to their island.

[Peaches]

OT- sorry. Just wanted to share this pic looking out my backdoor tonight:
http://tinyurl.com/2vly98

It's so beautiful.

But I still don't miss shoveling or driving in it.

[Artcolley]

FYI - Medleyrelay and Moonshadows are not happy at all with todays ruling.

BFD

Good morning.

Mornin' Peaches!  

[Kimmy53]

I ran the Diario story through the Pap translator and saw this section:
"where mencion is wordo haci of declaracion of testigonan y also informacion of tapmento of telefoon, cu is show or is give indicacion cu paul van der sloot will was have two trip contacto personal cu natalee during the night of desaparicion of natalee!!
-
I read it as Paul had two contacts with Natalee the night she disappeared with evidence obtained from sworn testimony and telephone wiretaping.

Again, that son of a bitch! As Deepak stated "You're own father"!

Yep.  Deepak few words are haunting.

I have thought about those words.  Do you think Deepak was trying to shift more attention towards Paulus?

Deepak is placing Paulus right in the middle.  Did Deepak mean that it was unbelievable that Paulus would let Joran take all the blame while he knew full well that Paulus was involved?  What ever it was, it was bad enough for Deepak to think badly of it.  That tells alot, because I am sure his level of morality is pretty low.

[Artcolley]

of course Anita acted as she has.  She is an obedient wife, she's a powerless Mother/Wife.  Her husband and son run the show and she spends her time trying to hide their double lives and make them look good in the public eye.  



O/T  we got 17" of SNOW and a 2nd day of no school.  Can't wait to get on the snowmobiles.

We got lots of snow here too!!! It Is Gorgeous!!!
The roads are still pretty "iffy" though. Lots of sideways gliders!

[Peaches]

AC!!!!   How are ya?

It's fabulous to see you and know you must be feeling better and better every day.  God is good all the time.  I am so happy for you and your family.  Your ACDC..aka Seamonkey is delightful.  So nice of her to keep us advised following surgery.  I know we were all worried sick.   And now we can sit back and thank God for a terrific outcome.  

Morning, Kimmie, Leslie, and anyone else my brain is keeping me from mentioning.

[Artcolley]

From the very beginning I thought that Paulus was up to his eyeballs in this tragedy.
One reason is because these so called "Kids" are not bright enough to have thought of all it took to pull this thing together.
The other thing is that I believed the Old Man is/was a pervert and wanted that young girl for himself.
I also believe as this thing unravels, more and more will come out that will prove most of the info here on the monkeys to be true.

ANd, yes. Anita knows exactly what happened and should have been hauled in and questioned.  Perhaps at some point she well.

Art~ I was suspicious of Paulus' level of involvement, though had nothing concrete until this came out. Now that it has, I have to wonder just how complicit was Anita? Was Natalee kept at the Sloot's while Anita was there?

Justins, You know, I think Natalee WAS there when Anita came home. In fact, I have toyed with the idea that Anita was instrumental in the disposal aspect of this. Of course, this is all my opionion...but things sure seem that way to me.
If you live in a home you know what goes on in that home. Anita was the woman of that house..she knew. You don't go hiding things like that in that tiny house they live in.

I agree with you guys - Anita in the very least knew what went on.  I can't forget sweaty Paulus, and Anita speaking for them.  He was sweating for a reason and it wasn't because he has some kind of condition - he was scared.  He is in it up to his beady eyeballs.  

Leslie - I hope they do start to ask questions...I hope they are sick of the Van der Sloots and the ruin they have brought to their island.

Kimmy, yes, old Paulus was sweating up a storm just from fear alone.
What a sickening piece of excrement he truly is.

[Artcolley]

I ran the Diario story through the Pap translator and saw this section:
"where mencion is wordo haci of declaracion of testigonan y also informacion of tapmento of telefoon, cu is show or is give indicacion cu paul van der sloot will was have two trip contacto personal cu natalee during the night of desaparicion of natalee!!
-
I read it as Paul had two contacts with Natalee the night she disappeared with evidence obtained from sworn testimony and telephone wiretaping.

Again, that son of a bitch! As Deepak stated "You're own father"!

Yep.  Deepak few words are haunting.

I have thought about those words.  Do you think Deepak was trying to shift more attention towards Paulus?

Deepak is placing Paulus right in the middle.  Did Deepak mean that it was unbelievable that Paulus would let Joran take all the blame while he knew full well that Paulus was involved?  What ever it was, it was bad enough for Deepak to think badly of it.  That tells alot, because I am sure his level of morality is pretty low.

I have wondered about those words myself..they could mean a couple of things.

[Artcolley]

AC!!!!   How are ya?

It's fabulous to see you and know you must be feeling better and better every day.  God is good all the time.  I am so happy for you and your family.  Your ACDC..aka Seamonkey is delightful.  So nice of her to keep us advised following surgery.  I know we were all worried sick.   And now we can sit back and thank God for a terrific outcome.  

Morning, Kimmie, Leslie, and anyone else my brain is keeping me from mentioning.

Peaches, its so nice to be back here as well!
My little SeaMonkey is truly a special person and has always been such a comfort and joy to me, even as a tiny child!
ANd, you monkeys, and all your prayers and good thoughts helped more than you'll ever know!!!!

[Kimmy53]

AC!!!!   How are ya?

It's fabulous to see you and know you must be feeling better and better every day.  God is good all the time.  I am so happy for you and your family.  Your ACDC..aka Seamonkey is delightful.  So nice of her to keep us advised following surgery.  I know we were all worried sick.   And now we can sit back and thank God for a terrific outcome.  

Morning, Kimmie, Leslie, and anyone else my brain is keeping me from mentioning.

Good Morning Peaches!  I am going thru a huge pile of filing.... Gakkkk I hate to file