Lively Case Discussion #497 7/18 - 7/19/2006

[klaasend]

Well that clinches it for me - Lorenzo has to be PvdS's basta' child. Paulus is a wimp, Joran is a wimp, now it sounds like Lorenzo is a wimp too.  Dutch weanies. All of them.

Sun, I believe Jossy verified that Lorenzo is PVDS's illegitimate child.  I'd sure like to know more about that one.

AZLady - to be fair I believe Jossy was only repeating the same rumors we have heard.  Remember those rumors came from Arubans.

[SunnyinTX]

Jossy may be out of tomorrow nites Dana show ... but Tim Miller & TES to the rescue.  

God Bless Tim and TES!!!

[AZLady]

I'm down with that XXX.  I put Joran/Deepak on one level and Satish on another. Joran always sounds like he 'has' something on Satish and is using that to keep Deepak in line.

If you look at the timeline tho, the more likely combination is actually Joran/Satish.  Deepak has computer activity running from 2:00 to at least 3:30 and possibly as late as 4:30.  And Joran wouldn't have been sending Deepak casual IM's like "What's up" if at that point they both knew Natalee was dead.  However Satish could have shown up on the beach (or whereever) with Joran and Natalee as early as 15 minutes after Joran's 2:26 call to Deepak.

Shiz, I think you may be assuming that Deepak is on his own account.  I would guess it is more likely that there is one computer in the Kalpoe home and that Satish was on it, if anyone, that night.  Perhaps Satish was taken home to make sure the transmissions came through and were saved on the computer's HD.  I wouldn't put much credibility in who was using whose account as they most likely shared each other's or at least knew how to access each other's accounts.  Joran's casual IM's could have been signals to verify if certain tasks had been accomplished, like downloads of video that took 8 1/2 minutes to transmit.

[AZLady]

Well that clinches it for me - Lorenzo has to be PvdS's basta' child. Paulus is a wimp, Joran is a wimp, now it sounds like Lorenzo is a wimp too.  Dutch weanies. All of them.

Sun, I believe Jossy verified that Lorenzo is PVDS's illegitimate child.  I'd sure like to know more about that one.

AZLady - to be fair I believe Jossy was only repeating the same rumors we have heard.  Remember those rumors came from Arubans.

Klaas, my mistake, then.  I was under the impression that Jossy said, yes, Lorenzo was PVDS's son as if it were a known fact.

[SunnyinTX]

Yes Jossy is now not available, I will re book at a later date.
So the guest line up now is
9pm est- Tim Miller from Texas Equsearch
9:30pm -Larry Garrison


Hope you can tune in.

Dana
www.cbandtalk.net

Wouldn't miss it for the world!!

[blah]

Anyone think Joran has read Daves book?  We should send him a copy.

[Shizaru]

Jossy may be out of tomorrow nites Dana show ... but Tim Miller & TES to the rescue.  

God Bless Tim and TES!!!

RWV Natalee board... scrux... now FOB... wasn't there another one that went down too?

[AZLady]

The NY courts and JQK have been ominously silent.  Any one hear anything?  I'm getting so curious as to the plan of action here.

[AZLady]

Jossy may be out of tomorrow nites Dana show ... but Tim Miller & TES to the rescue.  

God Bless Tim and TES!!!

RWV Natalee board... scrux... now FOB... wasn't there another one that went down too?

Are you talking about message boards or Dana's show?  puzzling....

[Kat_Gram]

Anyone think Joran has read Daves book?  We should send him a copy.

You are too funny ! !
He read it. But his lips got sore. ( Move your lips when you read ? )  

[blah]

Anyone think Joran has read Daves book?  We should send him a copy.

You are too funny ! !
He read it. But his lips got sore. ( Move your lips when you read ? )  

I doubt the lip licking piece of shit could get past the 1st paragraph to be honest with you.

[AZLady]

By the way, any more Joran spottings lately?  Last we heard, he was on Aruba gambling at the Marriott with a blonde lady friend.  Anyone seen him or heard tell of him?

[oldfart]

Hi Monkeys


I need to thank RED for getting me here... had a brain melt down and botched the sign-in password big time  

Maybe cause we had Weather sirens going off for about 45 min.. and even the photocell lights came on at 6:30  

I'v been attempting to find a couple of things and I'm betting the Monkeys can help

a transcript or clip of Kimberly Guilfoyle 4/22/06 interview with Anita??
a transcript or something about Greta's & Beths 90 min meeting with the Sloots on 6/21/05 ?
And any news item that states when & who returned with Anita from Holland around 6/1/05?
and the article that mentions DK  putting a porn DVD on when Natalee was in the car

I'm sorry I have not kept better personal records... but would appreciate any help.. E-mail me or post in a new thead would be great..
Thanks

[tidycat]

Shell:  

I notice and pay attention. I just don't always speak up. Since I put my foot in my mouth so often, I find I am better off mostly lurking Smile

Same here Shell!  I mostly leave it to those who really work on the case here and know so much more than I do about all the playas.  

Sunny, where are you going in September??

tidy

[blah]

By the way, any more Joran spottings lately?  Last we heard, he was on Aruba gambling at the Marriott with a blonde lady friend.  Anyone seen him or heard tell of him?

i heard he was last seen at the dollar store picking up some mascara, lipstick and nail polish.  same colors he used for Greta's interview.

[Hotshot]

Yes probably.

I wont miss it.  Thanks Dana!

[Jacqueline]

Shell:  

I notice and pay attention. I just don't always speak up. Since I put my foot in my mouth so often, I find I am better off mostly lurking Smile

Same here Shell!  I mostly leave it to those who really work on the case here and know so much more than I do about all the playas.  

Sunny, where are you going in September??

tidy

Tidy and Shell.......

I read every post. Yours count just as much as everyone elses.

Post often!

[tidycat]

OldFart, I would be most interested in reading a transcript of Greta, Beth, and the VDSs.  I've been looking all over for it, and got excited when Greta included it in her "special" recap a few weeks ago.  But I want to hear everything Anita and Paulus said.  I never could find the video myself.

tidy

[Leslie]

Hotshot: You have that video!

[Shizaru]

I'm down with that XXX.  I put Joran/Deepak on one level and Satish on another. Joran always sounds like he 'has' something on Satish and is using that to keep Deepak in line.

If you look at the timeline tho, the more likely combination is actually Joran/Satish.  Deepak has computer activity running from 2:00 to at least 3:30 and possibly as late as 4:30.  And Joran wouldn't have been sending Deepak casual IM's like "What's up" if at that point they both knew Natalee was dead.  However Satish could have shown up on the beach (or whereever) with Joran and Natalee as early as 15 minutes after Joran's 2:26 call to Deepak.

Shiz, I think you may be assuming that Deepak is on his own account.  I would guess it is more likely that there is one computer in the Kalpoe home and that Satish was on it, if anyone, that night.  Perhaps Satish was taken home to make sure the transmissions came through and were saved on the computer's HD.  I wouldn't put much credibility in who was using whose account as they most likely shared each other's or at least knew how to access each other's accounts.  Joran's casual IM's could have been signals to verify if certain tasks had been accomplished, like downloads of video that took 8 1/2 minutes to transmit.

They probably had different logins tho.  And supposedly Deepak was chatting with friends online during that time.  And possibly the 2:26 call was to Deepak's cell not the Kalpoe home phone.  So it probably was Deepak, and if it's true that he was chatting with friends and that can be proven then it almost certainly was.

And I don't think it's plausable they were IMing in code, if they were thinking about their computer activity being checked then their stories wouldn't have been contradicted by their computer activity.