Lively Case Discussion #672 8/2 - 8/3/2007

[mrs. red]

EAT DESSERT FIRST

You know, I may have mistakenly found myself at the wrong forum. I thought the highway turn sign I followed pointed toward --> Sacred Monkeys.

that took me a minute to get...

[BTgirl]

and what it didn't contain the cocaine, for example... I would love to know if there is a tape... I mean wasn't freddy spending the night? 

I also refuse to believe that she wasn't raped, especially since Anita told Greta and Beth the details of her underwear...

Exactly. Under what normal circumstances would Anita have been able to describe the underwear of a young girl she never met.

[Tibrogargan]

EAT DESSERT FIRST

You know, I may have mistakenly found myself at the wrong forum. I thought the highway turn sign I followed pointed toward --> Sacred Monkeys.

 

And now you're thinking we're NOT sacred? 

We are not scared, either 

[Buckeye]

Found this when I was looking for some stuff.  I didn't save the link.  Anybody know anything about loesge??


1.   loesge Says:
April 22nd, 2006 at 5:41 am
Gunslinger Says:
April 21st, 2006 at 7:06 pm
they filmed her de-flowering.
who was the actor?
——————————————-
ODUBER
2.   loesge Says:
April 22nd, 2006 at 5:51 am
Gunslinger Says:
April 21st, 2006 at 7:34 pm
The video was filmed live and
on location at the neighborhood
Holiday Inn.
““““““““““““““““
no,
it was the Wyndham
3.   loesge Says:
April 22nd, 2006 at 6:00 am
connect the dots to Bob Smith, manager of the Wyndham who also is head of the “black-clad” visability team. It was those black-clad “guards” who intercepted Natalee from Joran, NOT the two guards who were arrested. Joran delivered Natalee to a “House his father was known to be at”= Casablanca= “white house”.
The visability guards handed her over to Paulus and he, ultimately to Oduber.
The Lions prefer nice accomodations for their deflowerings. Presidential suite, anyone?
It’s an ongoing racket.

[mrs. red]

EAT DESSERT FIRST

You know, I may have mistakenly found myself at the wrong forum. I thought the highway turn sign I followed pointed toward --> Sacred Monkeys.

 

And now you're thinking we're NOT sacred? 

We are not scared, either 

we aren't? LMAO>>>.

[mrs. red]

wow.... is that our gunslinger talking >>>

[BTgirl]

Age is irrelevant. I go by the adage (of Mickey Mantle):
"If I'd known I was going to live this long -- I'd taken better care of myself." 

nah... I like I don't want a well preserved body... I want to slide in to my grave with chocloate in one hand and a martini in the other.... saying wooo hooooo what a ride!!

So true, Mrs Red.  A balanced diet is one with a chocolate in each hand.   

CHOCKY!!

[Tibrogargan]

Hello again, Monkeys.
And welcome to all the new monkeys that have joined us.

I see we have been back to throwing banana peels so will leave a supply of litter bags at the door.  Best to start off as we mean to continue.

Klaas In the Shango/Simian thread Lala's and I were thinking that it would be good if we could bring over the S/S discussions we had last week before the forum change (I think) and perhaps even the discussions we had in June when we topped our attendance records and post in the thread to save hopping between threads.  What would be the easiest way to do this and is it something we could do or only a Mod or Admin do?

[Dayhiker]

Found this when I was looking for some stuff.  I didn't save the link.  Anybody know anything about loesge??


1.   loesge Says:
April 22nd, 2006 at 5:41 am
Gunslinger Says:
April 21st, 2006 at 7:06 pm
they filmed her de-flowering.
who was the actor?
——————————————-
ODUBER
2.   loesge Says:
April 22nd, 2006 at 5:51 am
Gunslinger Says:
April 21st, 2006 at 7:34 pm
The video was filmed live and
on location at the neighborhood
Holiday Inn.
““““““““““““““““
no,
it was the Wyndham
3.   loesge Says:
April 22nd, 2006 at 6:00 am
connect the dots to Bob Smith, manager of the Wyndham who also is head of the “black-clad” visability team. It was those black-clad “guards” who intercepted Natalee from Joran, NOT the two guards who were arrested. Joran delivered Natalee to a “House his father was known to be at”= Casablanca= “white house”.
The visability guards handed her over to Paulus and he, ultimately to Oduber.
The Lions prefer nice accomodations for their deflowerings. Presidential suite, anyone?
It’s an ongoing racket.

And now you know why Rob Smith just took over AHATA.

[oldfart]

How can you have bars / casinos that cater to underage activities not be held accountable?


This Old Fart, is why the AHATA hotel and casino owners piled on the cover-up. They fear being sued for this and the revealing of money laundering of drug money that takes place on their premises. Here is why they feared the FBI and tried to stop them at every turn, throwing money at the Van der Sloot legal bills and scheming in back rooms the AHATA line that she overdosed herself.

SB
I ageree that AHATA is a big part of this...
BUT simple old common since says "If someone OD's ... they do not make themselves vanish..."

Like I said

I want all those involved in the conspiracy to cover up her disappearnace held accountable.

I hate to say it.. but that about all we ask for.

I did emphasis the all because.. it is not just the punks, their family or some members ALE / Aruban Legal system.

[Buckeye]

wow.... is that our gunslinger talking >>>

I have no idea.  I must have saved it for a reason...but beats me.  Was hoping someone else would recognize it......Oh...Klaaaaasssss...

[sb]

Even IF she showed the signs of being drugged ("evidence"), though, does that prove that Joran or K2 did it? Especially under the so-called Aruban "laws" where no one is EVER guilty of ANYTHING.

I am saying that the guys would not have killed her JUST to destroy "evidence", that they had a darker and more sinister motive in some way, or that it happened as an unplanned result, or that it happened as a crime of passion (anger)

[sb]

BTW that post by loesge is something to chew on for a while.

First time I have seen it.

[mrs. red]

it's a whole new level to consider.... for me at least, I think that most people arrived there before me.  I however, have always wondered how just three kids could cause this much damage and how could an entire country cover up for three punks???

[Buckeye]

Even IF she showed the signs of being drugged ("evidence"), though, does that prove that Joran or K2 did it? Especially under the so-called Aruban "laws" where no one is EVER guilty of ANYTHING.

I am saying that the guys would not have killed her JUST to destroy "evidence", that they had a darker and more sinister motive in some way, or that it happened as an unplanned result, or that it happened as a crime of passion (anger)

I just can't get away from "heavy" battery.....

[San]

Hello again, Monkeys.
And welcome to all the new monkeys that have joined us.

I see we have been back to throwing banana peels so will leave a supply of litter bags at the door.  Best to start off as we mean to continue.

Klaas In the Shango/Simian thread Lala's and I were thinking that it would be good if we could bring over the S/S discussions we had last week before the forum change (I think) and perhaps even the discussions we had in June when we topped our attendance records and post in the thread to save hopping between threads.  What would be the easiest way to do this and is it something we could do or only a Mod or Admin do?

Tibro you can highlight the post you want and just copy and past it.  Make sure you preview it first to see how it comes out.

[klaasend]

Hello again, Monkeys.
And welcome to all the new monkeys that have joined us.

I see we have been back to throwing banana peels so will leave a supply of litter bags at the door.  Best to start off as we mean to continue.

Klaas In the Shango/Simian thread Lala's and I were thinking that it would be good if we could bring over the S/S discussions we had last week before the forum change (I think) and perhaps even the discussions we had in June when we topped our attendance records and post in the thread to save hopping between threads.  What would be the easiest way to do this and is it something we could do or only a Mod or Admin do?

Let me think about it.  I'm still learning all the features here.  I don't want to screw anything up.    The problem would be finding all those posts.  The only reasonable thing would be to merge a couple of threads, other SS threads.  But to find all the separate posts would take a lifetime, IMO.

[klaasend]

wow.... is that our gunslinger talking >>>

I have no idea.  I must have saved it for a reason...but beats me.  Was hoping someone else would recognize it......Oh...Klaaaaasssss...

I'm trying to figure out where it was posted.  My guess is the front page of SM but I believe there are still some 2006 comments missing.  I know Dugga is going to work on those though.  I'll ask him about it.

[San]

Even IF she showed the signs of being drugged ("evidence"), though, does that prove that Joran or K2 did it? Especially under the so-called Aruban "laws" where no one is EVER guilty of ANYTHING.

I am saying that the guys would not have killed her JUST to destroy "evidence", that they had a darker and more sinister motive in some way, or that it happened as an unplanned result, or that it happened as a crime of passion (anger)

I just can't get away from "heavy" battery.....

Me either Buckeye.  Can't ignore those charges.  What made them charge him with these charges.  What evidence do they have.

Of course we all know they saw the body but how did they charge him with those charges without a body a whole year later.

[Dayhiker]

it's a whole new level to consider.... for me at least, I think that most people arrived there before me.  I however, have always wondered how just three kids could cause this much damage and how could an entire country cover up for three punks???

Anywhere else they would be in prison by now. Not Aruba. They have too much to hide.