Lively Case Discussion #500 7/22 - 7/24/2006

[robots]

is this possible ?


they gave her DRUGS without her knowing

they panicked, because she passed out  

they called for someone to come and let her SLEEP it OFF at someone's house.

joran and k2 gave her the drugs, they brought her somewhere to "sleep it off"  


things go down hill from there


the people that kept her at the house, dont talk because JORN blames
them

JORAN doesnt talk because he will get blamed if he RATS them out


im just guessing  

[crazybabyborg]

Let's bring that part of the conversation forward, k? I do think it's important to see the flow of the conversation........
I'll try, give me a second.......

[SunFreak2]

So, what`do you all think "that sh*t" is that Joran is referring to?

It took me a while, and Tyler helped me out, but I think it's evidence that ties the crime back to Joran for sure, and maybe the Kalpoes. First thing that comes to mind is the shoe/s.

Head injury?

[Jacqueline]

is this possible ?


they gave her DRUGS without her knowing

they panicked, because she passed out  

they called for someone to come and let her SLEEP it OFF at someone's house.

joran and k2 gave her the drugs, they brought her somewhere to "sleep it off"  


things go down hill from there


the people that kept her at the house, dont talk because JORN blames
them

JORAN doesnt talk because he will get blamed if he RATS them out


im just guessing  

I have always thought that natalee died because of the actions of these "3" but that they did not intend to pick up a girl and kill her.

I think Joran, and his cohorts have done this sort of thing before, slip a tourist a date rape drug,   assault her, then the girl has a foggy memory , but before you know it she is back on a plane home.

I think your post is very plausible.

[SunFreak2]

G'nite y'all.  

Mr Sandman, bring me a dream.....

[Lala'sMom]

Where is my favorite purple person tonight? Has been in yet?

Nope, haven't seen him.  Maybe he's spending time with his lady??[/quot

I bet you are right.  Think it's time for me to go spend time with my DH too.  He had a bad day at work.  Night to all and hug Nemo for me.  

[crazybabyborg]

Joran: (to Deepak) Then you're going to tell shit about the ChoHer [choller]? I have helped you with that that shit of the choller friend.
Deepak: And, I also said that.
Joran: That I have not read. I have also read that statement.
Satish: That of the chollers was from me.
Deepak or Satish: I have already told that before. I have also said that in my first statement.
Satish: I said it in my own interest.
Joran: That is what the police tells me now. Police says now to me, like, if you two go against me, I'll go against you two.
Brothers: (laughing) Hehehehehehehe.
Satish: We don't put you in trouble. We just tell the truth.
Joran: That you two don't do. The half of what you two have said isn't the fxxxing truth. It will come forward. Just like they check me, they check you two also.
Satish: With us, with us, can they get evidence, but with you not. [ a bit unclear: It's: bij ons, bij ons. Kunnen zij bewijzen krijgen, maar bij jou nief] With lies, you don't get evidence,
Joran: All that shit of "Karen," all of you two don't know of no shit. Fxxx you two.
Deepak: You think that the girl has nothing on, you will see who fxxxed who (this sentence was not good to understand) [note of the police officer]

[whytegirl]

Hi everybody, how's it hangin'?

[mrs. red]

Where is my favorite purple person tonight? Has been in yet?

It's early for him... it's only 9 in CA... but when he arrives tell him he's way behind on his trivia!!

[Mrsn2itiv]

Hi everybody, how's it hangin'?

like chads!

[whytegirl]

I need to do something to my pic., I don't like being nekky for so long...where's Ang?

[whytegirl]

I need to do something to my pic., I don't like being nekky for so long...where's Ang?

[whytegirl]

Sorry for the double post...sleepy here.  

Too funny!!!!!  

[whytegirl]

I am anxiously waiting for Miss Universe...tomorrow eve.  Carlos Ponce will be the host and he's from Puerto Rico, check him out.  Will be with Nancy O'Dell.

I see my candidate amongst the first 20.  Us Latinos follow these things very seriously.  We have a "war" against Venezuela we are tied up for the crown.

[Jacqueline]

MRS Red: Foo fighters on now SNL....

[Mrsn2itiv]

MRS Red: Foo fighters on now SNL....

LMAO I was just about to ask you what's happening on SNL!!!  

[Jacqueline]

MRS Red: Foo fighters on now SNL....

LMAO I was just about to ask you what's happening on SNL!!!  

I saw Foo Fighters open for Red HOt Chili Peppers once.

One of my all time fav concerts ever!

 

Dave Grohl is  HOT

[mrs. red]

MRS Red: Foo fighters on now SNL....

thanks.. you know I LOVE them!!

[Mrsn2itiv]

I think I am gonna go watch a movie now monkeys.  Any suggestions? Pulp Fiction, maybe?

[AZLady]

is this possible ?


they gave her DRUGS without her knowing

they panicked, because she passed out  

they called for someone to come and let her SLEEP it OFF at someone's house.

joran and k2 gave her the drugs, they brought her somewhere to "sleep it off"  


things go down hill from there


the people that kept her at the house, dont talk because JORN blames
them

JORAN doesnt talk because he will get blamed if he RATS them out


im just guessing  

Robots, I do believe they gave her drugs without her knowing, but that's where the possibility of your theory ends.  They expected her to pass out.  They did not panic at her loss of consciousness, but expected that.  They took her to Joran's apartment.  They all raped her.  She most likely regained consciousness at some point because she was able to make at least one, maybe two, phone calls.  At that point, she could identify all of them, and they killed her.  That's it.  That's all there is.