Natalee Case Discussion #702 12/7 - 12/8/2007

[Nut44x4]

MOS AND JORAN = SAME THING they both LIE

A vigilante is a person who ignores due process of law and enacts his/her own form of justice when they deem the response of the authorities to be insufficient. Several groups and individuals have been labeled as vigilantes by various historians and media. Their stories are often interesting when their intent often turns into unintended consequences.[1] Vigilantes have been central to several creative fictional works and are often depicted as being heroes and retaliatory against wrongdoers.

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[Observer]

Picture from todays Awemainta Newspaper. Don't know about you guys but it bothers me big time that Tacopina is so involved in this case.

[Helen Back]

Wow.....I thought you guys liked me.

Well, I do still think Mos is a very smart guy.  Do I trust him?  No, because he's a lawyer.  I haven't met many that are trustworthy, and in my opinion, they too often swing with the breeze.  Even the ones that have worked for me, I don't always trust. 

Am I happy about the way things have gone this week?  Not just no, but Hell No!  But I don't think Mos is in this current situation because he is an idiot, like Joe T. 

I am holding on to the caveat that Mos gave himself regarding his decision on whether to bring charges by December 31.  He said in the event that new evidence surfaces, such as Natalee's body being found, or a video tape being discovered, he would allow himself the caveat of not complying with Dec. 31 deadline to make a decision.  However small that sounds, it is the glimmer of hope that I need to keep.

I don't need you to agree with me, but don't ask me not to be hopeful.  It's just not in me.  Will Mos turn out to be a hero or the biggest loser in the history of the world?  I don't know.  But I do believe that this case will be solved.  I do believe that Natalee will be found and the truth about what happened to her will come into the light.  It just may happen because of a a bunch of open-hearted people who will continue to search for her in a garbage dump or in a nasty crack house or in the ocean.  It just may happen because of Mos and someone in the Dutch Judiciary or the KLPD or the FBI that gives a damn about the truth.  It just may happen because of one tired old renegade like me, who will never give up.  I believe.

I am optimistic about the ocean search, and Mos or no Mos, I will never give up.

Klaas, I've never wanted an avatar. But if I had one, it would be this:

http://www.salagram.net/never-give-up.gif

Wish I knew how to paste it here!

[klaasend]

This was posted at RU, actually a link to a blog but I made a screen capture. The truth is, Joran will live with what he did to Natalee the rest of his life.  He will always be known as the person to killed Natalee and got away with it.

[dennisintn]

This was posted at RU, actually a link to a blog but I made a screen capture. The truth is, Joran will live with what he did to Natalee the rest of his life.  He will always be known as the person to killed Natalee and got away with it.

sociopaths don't have a conscience.  the only thing that bothers or will ever bother jvds is something that inconveniences him in some way.
dennisintn

[klaasend]

Wow.....I thought you guys liked me.

Well, I do still think Mos is a very smart guy.  Do I trust him?  No, because he's a lawyer.  I haven't met many that are trustworthy, and in my opinion, they too often swing with the breeze.  Even the ones that have worked for me, I don't always trust. 

Am I happy about the way things have gone this week?  Not just no, but Hell No!  But I don't think Mos is in this current situation because he is an idiot, like Joe T. 

I am holding on to the caveat that Mos gave himself regarding his decision on whether to bring charges by December 31.  He said in the event that new evidence surfaces, such as Natalee's body being found, or a video tape being discovered, he would allow himself the caveat of not complying with Dec. 31 deadline to make a decision.  However small that sounds, it is the glimmer of hope that I need to keep.

I don't need you to agree with me, but don't ask me not to be hopeful.  It's just not in me.  Will Mos turn out to be a hero or the biggest loser in the history of the world?  I don't know.  But I do believe that this case will be solved.  I do believe that Natalee will be found and the truth about what happened to her will come into the light.  It just may happen because of a a bunch of open-hearted people who will continue to search for her in a garbage dump or in a nasty crack house or in the ocean.  It just may happen because of Mos and someone in the Dutch Judiciary or the KLPD or the FBI that gives a damn about the truth.  It just may happen because of one tired old renegade like me, who will never give up.  I believe.

I am optimistic about the ocean search, and Mos or no Mos, I will never give up.

Klaas, I've never wanted an avatar. But if I had one, it would be this:



Wish I knew how to paste it here!

Personally I'm not ready to give up either!  I think alot of us are venting our frustrations and regrouping.  Not giving up!

[Helen Back]

This was posted at RU, actually a link to a blog but I made a screen capture. The truth is, Joran will live with what he did to Natalee the rest of his life.  He will always be known as the person to killed Natalee and got away with it.

And the story goes on to say:

A wrinkly old 150 year-old-woman, named Helen Back, toddled up with the aid of her walker, slapped that smirk off his toothless face, and called him a lying sack of sh*t.  As she toddled off, onlookers heard her say, " I knew they would get you....I never gave up!"

[Magnolia]

Aruba is the worst place that I have ever seen.

Except for Jossy we haven't encountered even one likable person.
It is an island of misfits.  Mama Kalpoe was right.  They all lie.
There is no law...there is no justice.  Drugs and prostitution and
gambling are mainstays.  They are only nice to tourist because
they are dependent on their dollars and they hate the tourists for
that.  They have no cercern for their fellow human being.
The people on that island deserve each other.
Any American that even wants to go there is out of their mind.
JMHO

[Anna]

Pita... I was just going to post that same thing. Ready to hit post and saw Janet's reply!

So as of June 1st 2005, he was done with Aruba. No authority at the van der Sloots, correct. Or should have been.

Or should I say May 31st 2005

Ramm is the one who pointed this out to me and said that Witt would be out of the picture now for which I was very happy.

But if he was appointed to this higher court and took that oath, what was he doing canceling search warrants for his friends on that date?

Perhaps there is some provision for finishing up cases on which they have already started?

I would really like to know the answer to this and would like to be sure Mos is aware of it as well.  Doesn't seem right.  But then anything goes in Aruba.  They change the laws to suit themselves and just keep moving the goal post every time.

Maybe NYC can answer this for use or maybe Klaas will send it to Jossy and see if he can shed some light on it.  Very interesting if they want to play technicalities.

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[Helen Back]

Oh, thanks Klaas!   

[Observer]

Bondia.com

[wreck]

Wow.....I thought you guys liked me.

Well, I do still think Mos is a very smart guy.  Do I trust him?  No, because he's a lawyer.  I haven't met many that are trustworthy, and in my opinion, they too often swing with the breeze.  Even the ones that have worked for me, I don't always trust. 

Am I happy about the way things have gone this week?  Not just no, but Hell No!  But I don't think Mos is in this current situation because he is an idiot, like Joe T. 

I am holding on to the caveat that Mos gave himself regarding his decision on whether to bring charges by December 31.  He said in the event that new evidence surfaces, such as Natalee's body being found, or a video tape being discovered, he would allow himself the caveat of not complying with Dec. 31 deadline to make a decision.  However small that sounds, it is the glimmer of hope that I need to keep.

I don't need you to agree with me, but don't ask me not to be hopeful.  It's just not in me.  Will Mos turn out to be a hero or the biggest loser in the history of the world?  I don't know.  But I do believe that this case will be solved.  I do believe that Natalee will be found and the truth about what happened to her will come into the light.  It just may happen because of a a bunch of open-hearted people who will continue to search for her in a garbage dump or in a nasty crack house or in the ocean.  It just may happen because of Mos and someone in the Dutch Judiciary or the KLPD or the FBI that gives a damn about the truth.  It just may happen because of one tired old renegade like me, who will never give up.  I believe.

I am optimistic about the ocean search, and Mos or no Mos, I will never give up.

Klaas, I've never wanted an avatar. But if I had one, it would be this:

http://www.salagram.net/never-give-up.gif

Wish I knew how to paste it here!

No one here is giving up. We are just channeling our efforts and resources to other avenues besides the non-existent Aruban justice system.

[Tamikosmom]

This was posted at RU, actually a link to a blog but I made a screen capture. The truth is, Joran will live with what he did to Natalee the rest of his life.  He will always be known as the person to killed Natalee and got away with it.

And the story goes on to say:

A wrinkly old 150 year-old-woman, named Helen Back, toddled up with the aid of her walker, slapped that smirk off his toothless face, and called him a lying sack of sh*t.  As she toddled off, onlookers heard her say, " I knew they would get you....I never gave up!"

    

These two posts are worthy of a Scared Monkey's FP exposure.

I promised myself that I would only lurk off and on today ... lots to do.  However ... I have been known to break promises to myself in the past and ... this is one of those times.

Helen and Klassend ... I LOVE your sense of humor and ... believe me ... I needed some humor today.  The happening in Aruba right now have real gotten to me.

Thank you Klaas and Helen.

Janet

[Nut44x4]

Bondia.com

  is that Angela Muffdiver in the background?

[Helen Back]

This was posted at RU, actually a link to a blog but I made a screen capture. The truth is, Joran will live with what he did to Natalee the rest of his life.  He will always be known as the person to killed Natalee and got away with it.

And the story goes on to say:

A wrinkly old 150 year-old-woman, named Helen Back, toddled up with the aid of her walker, slapped that smirk off his toothless face, and called him a lying sack of sh*t.  As she toddled off, onlookers heard her say, " I knew they would get you....I never gave up!"

    

These two posts are worthy of a Scared Monkey's FP exposure.

I promised myself that I would only lurk off and on today ... lots to do.  However ... I have been known to break promises to myself in the past and ... this is one of those times.

Helen and Klassend ... I LOVE your sense of humor and ... believe me ... I needed some humor today.  The happening in Aruba right now have real gotten to me.

Thank you Klaas and Helen.

Janet

We all need a good laugh right now.  I know that the Monkeys have always been here for Natalee and for truth for her family.  It takes courage to keep going in the face of what appear to be insurmountable odds.  We've had some big disappointments, but I know that no Monkey will ever give up.  It's what keeps us all coming back.....the truth for Natalee.

[Nut44x4]

That really was funny Helen...good one!

[Observer]

Bondia.com

  is that Angela Muffdiver in the background?

No thats the pitbull Rosemarie Arnold. You can see her hugging Joran in the other picture. Angela's butt is like 10 times the size of everyone so she is easy to spot 

[Helen Back]

That really was funny Helen...good one!

 :lol:Don't be thinkin I won't do it...Give us all something to look forward to.

 

[Nut44x4]

Lol *******...thanks...I can see that now.

[klaasend]

That really was funny Helen...good one!

 :lol:Don't be thinkin I won't do it...Give us all something to look forward to.

 

I've suggested to Red he make a front page post out of it.  Red has some good comments to go along with it as well