Natalee Case Discussion #718 2/01 - 2/02/08

[Destiny]

typical of the sloot family.  granny sloot says jvds is in hiding.  anita says he's not in hiding.  why would anyone expect any different from any of them.
dennisintn

Apparently we could just call and ask him. He loves to talk!

I love to make calls!  Anyone have a number bwahahahh....me bad monkey. Post Grannie's number...I will call the Sporter.

[San]

Sorry, I have been out for a few hours.  In reading back I am confused again!

Was a request for a re arrest sent to the judge in Holland as CNN said, or has a request not be sent???

According to reports today, a request has NOT been sent yet.

He wants to watch the Superbowl first and then he said they can arrest him 

[San]

typical of the sloot family.  granny sloot says jvds is in hiding.  anita says he's not in hiding.  why would anyone expect any different from any of them.
dennisintn

Apparently we could just call and ask him. He loves to talk!

I love to make calls!  Anyone have a number bwahahahh....me bad monkey. Post Grannie's number...I will call the Sporter.

 

[Nut44x4]

http://www.parool.nl/nieuws/2008/FEB/02/p2.html


Helen at RU says the link speaks of this>>
According to Grard Spong there's a change that the taping was illegal and De Vries commited a crime. One is not always allowed to secretly tape in private. If the infiltrant has even a slight connection with the justice department it's over and done.

[crazybabyborg]

typical of the sloot family.  granny sloot says jvds is in hiding.  anita says he's not in hiding.  why would anyone expect any different from any of them.
dennisintn

Apparently we could just call and ask him. He loves to talk!

I love to make calls!  Anyone have a number bwahahahh....me bad monkey. Post Grannie's number...I will call the Sporter.

Which Granny is it? Anita's mom or Paulus'? What's Anita's maiden name? (I can't picture Anita as a maiden. Well maybe a tanker going on a maiden voyage........)

[Bearlyhere]

typical of the sloot family.  granny sloot says jvds is in hiding.  anita says he's not in hiding.  why would anyone expect any different from any of them.
dennisintn

I'm guessing the Sloots don't know where the heck he is. They're afraid to turn on TV lest they see him on Larry King.

She doesn't have to worry, his lawyer has the perfect defense:

He's a sleezy lying jerk therefore he couldn't have done it.

I am also wondering if there is some truth to the "not having a condom" story.  Once he thought she was dead, he had to get rid of Natalee because he knew there was definitely DNA evidence.

[robots]

when you have a liar like joran that lies at will about everything

its only a matter of time before they sink themselves


i have seen it a hundred times before


uhhhhhhhhh...make that 101 times


latest rumor is that  FREDDY is talking

 

[San]

http://www.parool.nl/nieuws/2008/FEB/02/p2.html


Helen at RU says the link speaks of this>>
According to Grard Spong there's a change that the taping was illegal and De Vries commited a crime. One is not always allowed to secretly tape in private. If the infiltrant has even a slight connection with the justice department it's over and done.

I wouldn't expect it any other way.

[robots]

hello this is granny sloot, how can i help you ?


yes, may i speak to joran please


ummmmmmm.... hold on,  joran its for you....


hello this is joran

i hate you

[JA]

Freddy is the US?

[Spock]

Food for Thought:

I wonder if Dutch law enforcement will seek and injunction preventing the airing of the D'Vries video until Joran is in custody. If I was the prosecutor, I would want to confront him with the evidence before it is made public.

[robots]

spong is an accomplice

as fas as im concerned

[San]

Freddy is the US?

Freddy is in Aruba.  He was the one who was brought in for questioning for filming a minor.

[CapsLockWizard]

Marco@RU
translation Joran's interview on pauw & witteman

question: How did this all happen, with this so called confession:

Joran: Yes, I did say something to someone I should not have said, it's a story
to someone I have know for a while.

[question: How long have you known him?

Joran: about 6 months.

quistion: what did you tell him:

Joran: Yes, well everyone will see it this sunday, ha ha ha , but I can easily proof that what I said is not true, it's a whole lot about nothing, and it's kinda sad that they brought the mother over here and that they told her, but we'll see it all.

question: Is it now not right to say right now what you said, and why it is that what you said is not true.

Joran: I talked to my parents and my lawyer and they told me how it is, and they said also , just don't say anything.

question: The news said tonight that it's about the news that after you made out with Natalee that you , that she got sick, and became lifeless, and that you called a friend and he came with a boat and that you went on the boat with her and that you threw her in the water , you glide her in the water.

Joran, Yes, that's what I said.

question: Is that not very dumb of you to say that?

Joran: Yes it is very dumb, but what I'm trying to say is that I have build up a relationship with someone for 6 months, and yes, that person, it's very difficult to explain, but that person did very brave (?), and I told him what he wanted to hear.

question: How did you know what he wanted to hear?

Joran: Well I had my suspicion a little bit, because he talked to other friends of mine, I did not have a super good feeling towards him,

question: but then, Joran it is unbelievable dumb to just say this, if it's not true.

Joran: It's so dumb, it's so dumb, it's so dumb, it's really dumb.

question: do you think you will be arrested again?

Joran: No, I don't think so.
Maybe it could be, they have arrested me before for less than this, but I have been tricked.

question: Have you talked more to this friend who got this story from you?

Joran: I just had a conversation with him, for about 20 minutes.

quistion: and did you (uitgekafferd) **** (lol) on him?

Joran: No, I still talk with him normal.

question: But he betrayed you, or not?

Joran: Yes, but he does not want to talk, he says, what is coming is coming on sunday.

quiestion: but we've heard that he received money from peter van de vries, to get a confession from you.

Joran: Yes, I don't know, I think he has more than enough money himself, but, we'll see.

question: what kind of boy is he?

Joran: You see, I don't know what they are going to show this sunday, but this is a boy, he's an older man, I met him, and we've met a lot, I found him to be fascinating, I was very interested in him, and I, ha ha ha, just told him what he wanted to hear,

question: but how did you not know then that he was not honest, that you told him just what he wanted to hear?

Joran: Yes well, he did a lot of thing you should not do, things that I would never do myself, some of these things he did do,

question: example?

Joran: I don't want to give an example, I don't want to talk someone down, but it now shows that he used me
(loose translation)

question: yes with a hidden microphone and a hidden camera, you never noticed that, it would seem.

Joran: These days these things are so little, but it's just been unbelievable dumb, really really, not normal dumb, and I hope that will become more peaceful because it seems that all hell is breaking loose.

question: Have you had contact with the boy that might have moved the body of Natalee?

Joran: Yes, no, that's just a boy I met on Aruba, just now, when I was there,

question: Did you speak to him?

Joran: But now I just met him.

question: Does the police have contact with this boy now?

Joran: Yes, well I don't know, I don't know it all.
I have talked to my parents and my lawyer, and I just don't know what's happening now.
I don't know what the OM is thinking.
I think they are going to investigate it all, and it will show that it is not that way.

question: you have contact with your dad, does your dad have contact with the OM?
Joran: I don't know, I think he had a conversation with Mr. Mos, but it's only about security.

question: Oh so it was not about an new investigation?

Joran: No

question: Because, Mr Mos has said, this is the missing part, your confession.

Joran: Yes, it's very (vervelend) nasty but what I said was not true, and they can found out if it's true or not.

question: So you did not go with Natalee in a boat into the water and put her in the water?

Joran: No of course not.

question: That did not happen for sure?

Joran: No,

question: And how can we find out that that is not true, as you say?

Joran: Yes, I don't know, it has to do with that person, that after two and a half years with that person, that's not possible (The Wrong person that MIU took? ) (Surie?) (You gave the wrong info to your dad)
(Joran talks in half sentences here)
No, I, it's just been very stupid.

question: do you blame de Vries?

Joran : NO, he does his job, I think that sunday night will bring very good tv night , but it's too bad that with this there are a lot of feelings for a lot of people involved here, and they will be hurt, and that's not a good tv program, but that's the way it is.

question: Joran, but now for all the people that are now thinking, Joran vd Sloot has lied from the beginning , and we talked around this table with Peter de Vries, and now it seems like again he lied again to someone else, why should we believe Joran vd Sloot?

Joran: Yes, I ask myself the same thing, there is no reason to believe me.

question: are you going to watch sunday evening?

Joran: I think I will watch sunday evening, I

question: will you consider to come to our program the next day to give your reaction?

Joran: I don't know, I think for myself I don't want to react, I'm pretty sober about it, but we'll see.

We'll call on monday again.
Thank you very much.

This P&W interview with does not set right with me.

On the advise of his attorneys and father ... Joran was able to keep keep silent following the November, 2007 detention yet ...

Hey ... Joran even claims he is not angry at Peter Devries or ... the guy who betrayed him.  Joran even claims he was suspicious of the informant yet ... he still spews forth this confession that only implicates him.  Joran seems resigned regarding the Sunday viewing of the tape.  Does not make sense!

The Aruban plan ... Joran reveals a confession only implicating himself and ... then proclaims to the world he lied but ... the world knows that he is a liar so ... the confession that only implicates Joran will be embraced as the truth.

Janet

[JA]

I take it Joran will be missing classes tomorrow?  Poor Joran getting behind on his studies.

[Nut44x4]

There is a chance that the picture has been obtained unlawfully.  ' '
possibly even freezes an indictable offence has committed, ' ' Spong
said. One can make not always in secret prerecordings in the private
life.  ' ' and if the infiltrant also but something to do has with
justice, then it is concerning.' '

For the Public Prosecution Service on Aruba the film reason was reopen
the research, which was closed in December. The small film does not
contain however sufficient reason of of the ditch, which by the end of
November for the second time in the matter was arrested and it was
released after two weeks, again to apprehend.

The American Council man of of of the ditch did not say concerned be
that the small film leads ' to a revealing ' in which its customer is
designated ' as a culprit '. Freeze for its part kept full that he
will prove lasting programme on SBS6 to Sunday in its two hours that
it is involved of of the ditch in the verwijning of the body.

It is remarkable that of of the ditch the existence of the boy
confirmed yesterday with a small boat. He however just after the
disappearance of Holloway learn that boy has known. The American
sender ABC bought the rights of freezes programme and transmits it
Monday on prime time.

http://www.parool.nl/nieuws/2008/FEB/02/p2.html

[Port Valerie]

http://www.parool.nl/nieuws/2008/FEB/02/p2.html


Helen at RU says the link speaks of this>>
According to Grard Spong there's a change that the taping was illegal and De Vries commited a crime. One is not always allowed to secretly tape in private. If the infiltrant has even a slight connection with the justice department it's over and done.

To say this, they must be scared.

[crazybabyborg]

Food for Thought:

I wonder if Dutch law enforcement will seek and injunction preventing the airing of the D'Vries video until Joran is in custody. If I was the prosecutor, I would want to confront him with the evidence before it is made public.

JMO: I think Peter DeVries knows what he's doing and has crossed his "t's" and dotted his "i's". I think the show will air as planned.

[JA]

Freddy is the US?

Freddy is in Aruba.  He was the one who was brought in for questioning for filming a minor.

[San]

Food for Thought:

I wonder if Dutch law enforcement will seek and injunction preventing the airing of the D'Vries video until Joran is in custody. If I was the prosecutor, I would want to confront him with the evidence before it is made public.

I don't believe Aruba has the power to do that.