Home
Blog
Radio
Missing Persons
Crime
June 01, 2024, 09:27:49 AM
Welcome,
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
1 Hour
1 Day
1 Week
1 Month
Forever
Login with username, password and session length
News
:
NEW CHILD BOARD CREATED IN THE POLITICAL SECTION FOR THE 2016 ELECTION
Home
Help
Login
Register
Scared Monkeys Discussion Forum
>
Natalee Holloway
>
LCD Archive
> Topic:
Lively Case Discussion #591 3/19 - 3/21/2007
Pages:
«
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
»
Go Down
« previous
next »
Print
Author
Topic: Lively Case Discussion #591 3/19 - 3/21/2007 (Read 109820 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
carpe noctem
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 9286
History repeats itself. It's a cyclical beast.
Lively Case Discussion #591 3/19 - 3/21/2007
«
Reply #60 on:
March 19, 2007, 09:46:15 PM »
Quote from: "klaasend"
Posted by Moonshadows at FOB:
Paranoid Personality Disorder as a pervasive distrust and suspiciousness of others such that their motives are interpreted as malevolent, such as:
* suspects, without sufficient basis, that others are exploiting, harming, or deceiving him or her;
* is preoccupied with unjustified doubts about the loyalty or trustworthiness of friends or associates;
* is reluctant to confide in others because of unwarranted fear that the information will be used maliciously against him or her;
* reads hidden demeaning or threatening meanings into benign remarks or events;
* persistently bears grudges, i.e., is unforgiving of insults , injuries, or slights perceives attacks on his or her character or reputation that are not apparent to others and is quick to react angrily or to counterattack;
Sound familiar???
Yes, Moonshadows it does. Sounds like you just described RU and FOB members to a "T"
F-O-R
R-E-A-L
Those RU-bies and FOB-Tards are all about as daft
as a noxious fart trapped in a wet suit.
I am sooooo over these friggin' mental munchkins.
Bunch of effffffin' JEHHHHHKS, the lot of them! -Ozzy Osbourne
Logged
For Natalee and Stephany, whatever it takes.
-JUSTICE FOR NATALEE ANN - BOYCOTT ARUBA
------------------
"Don't talk about what you have done or what you are going to do." Thomas Jefferson
"The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first."Thomas Jeff
klaasend
Administrator
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 74276
Lively Case Discussion #591 3/19 - 3/21/2007
«
Reply #61 on:
March 19, 2007, 09:48:51 PM »
Up next: Yamila Castellano
http://www.crnjapan.com/people/cay/en/
Japanese Father, Tsugunari Yamada Takes Daughter from Cuba and Denies Contact to Mother Yamila
Then he divorces her in Japan by allegedly forging her signature on documents.
September 24, 2005
Logged
Kat_Gram
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 7018
Lively Case Discussion #591 3/19 - 3/21/2007
«
Reply #62 on:
March 19, 2007, 09:52:56 PM »
Quote from: "klaasend"
Posted by Moonshadows at FOB:
Paranoid Personality Disorder as a pervasive distrust and suspiciousness of others such that their motives are interpreted as malevolent, such as:
* suspects, without sufficient basis, that others are exploiting, harming, or deceiving him or her;
* is preoccupied with unjustified doubts about the loyalty or trustworthiness of friends or associates;
* is reluctant to confide in others because of unwarranted fear that the information will be used maliciously against him or her;
* reads hidden demeaning or threatening meanings into benign remarks or events;
* persistently bears grudges, i.e., is unforgiving of insults , injuries, or slights perceives attacks on his or her character or reputation that are not apparent to others and is quick to react angrily or to counterattack;
Sound familiar???
Yes, Moonshadows it does. Sounds like you just described RU and FOB members to a "T"
Is she talking about ME ?
I did try to go to a Paranoids Anonymous Meeting, but they wouldn't tell me where the meeting was !!
Logged
Tamikosmom
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 37229
Lively Case Discussion #591 3/19 - 3/21/2007
«
Reply #63 on:
March 19, 2007, 09:57:11 PM »
Quote from: "Kat_Gram"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Posted by Moonshadows at FOB:
Paranoid Personality Disorder as a pervasive distrust and suspiciousness of others such that their motives are interpreted as malevolent, such as:
* suspects, without sufficient basis, that others are exploiting, harming, or deceiving him or her;
* is preoccupied with unjustified doubts about the loyalty or trustworthiness of friends or associates;
* is reluctant to confide in others because of unwarranted fear that the information will be used maliciously against him or her;
* reads hidden demeaning or threatening meanings into benign remarks or events;
* persistently bears grudges, i.e., is unforgiving of insults , injuries, or slights perceives attacks on his or her character or reputation that are not apparent to others and is quick to react angrily or to counterattack;
Sound familiar???
Yes, Moonshadows it does. Sounds like you just described RU and FOB members to a "T"
Is she talking about ME ?
I did try to go to a Paranoids Anonymous Meeting, but they wouldn't tell me where the meeting was !!
Kat ... can I come to that meeting with you. I fit into every category.
Janet
Logged
Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
mrs. red
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 9318
Lively Case Discussion #591 3/19 - 3/21/2007
«
Reply #64 on:
March 19, 2007, 09:58:29 PM »
HI Monkeys.....
Can I admit for the first time, I am watching Dancing with the Stars??/ I am such a huge Apollo Ono fan!
don't tell Red...
Logged
To accomplish great things we must not only act but also dream, not only plan but also believe.
Author: Anatole
Cat
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 1248
Lively Case Discussion #591 3/19 - 3/21/2007
«
Reply #65 on:
March 19, 2007, 09:59:14 PM »
BT,Klas I agree on what you said.I feel we know 98% of the details.Natalee was drugged ,taken ,raped ,fought,beaten,and killed.Her body was hidden,the crime was covered up,old boys took over.etc.Who helped and how many are the 2% of the details.Whatever justice comes,we will only the little boys,you will not some the key figures get nailed.I would dump the VC family out of aruba.Betrayel of trust by police,etc.deepak and satish,gone.Guido,Koen,Freddy,Jamie,etc gone.I could keep going,but we know the cast of jerks.When you demonstrate in Boston,sing,it works.i would sing the the famous song"I thought I saw Joe Hill today"Just change the name.famous union song in Boston.Lawrence Textile mills.Just a silly cat
Logged
Live with hope,looking for justice
klaasend
Administrator
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 74276
Lively Case Discussion #591 3/19 - 3/21/2007
«
Reply #66 on:
March 19, 2007, 10:00:33 PM »
Message to us from Medleyrelay:
Just for the record as I know that there are some severely +++++++ Monkey Poos out there that seem to wonder why Medleyrelay has not posted about the court hearing today. You all are thinking that Medley is so very worried and just beside herself -- Well You all would be very WRONG. Medley is actually quite happy -so put that in your little crack pipe MONKEYS!!!
Can we borrow your crack pipe? We don't happen to have one.
Logged
mrs. red
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 9318
Lively Case Discussion #591 3/19 - 3/21/2007
«
Reply #67 on:
March 19, 2007, 10:01:11 PM »
Hi Cat...
I agree with you totally!!
Logged
To accomplish great things we must not only act but also dream, not only plan but also believe.
Author: Anatole
Cat
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 1248
Lively Case Discussion #591 3/19 - 3/21/2007
«
Reply #68 on:
March 19, 2007, 10:01:11 PM »
Hey Mrs Red,We have really missed you.I was watching same thing.Will you send me the prayer you sent me before.CAT
Logged
Live with hope,looking for justice
Bobo2
Scared Monkey
Offline
Posts: 240
Lively Case Discussion #591 3/19 - 3/21/2007
«
Reply #69 on:
March 19, 2007, 10:01:26 PM »
Quote from: "mrs. red"
HI Monkeys.....
Can I admit for the first time, I am watching Dancing with the Stars??/ I am such a huge Apollo Ono fan!
don't tell Red...
I must have been under a rock but never heard of him. But wow can he dance! And a cutie too...
Dancing with the Stars is the only show I plan my schedule around - love it, love it love it!!!
Logged
klaasend
Administrator
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 74276
Lively Case Discussion #591 3/19 - 3/21/2007
«
Reply #70 on:
March 19, 2007, 10:01:57 PM »
Quote from: "mrs. red"
HI Monkeys.....
Can I admit for the first time, I am watching Dancing with the Stars??/ I am such a huge Apollo Ono fan!
don't tell Red...
I think my husband would divorce me if I made him watch that show, lol
Logged
Cat
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 1248
Lively Case Discussion #591 3/19 - 3/21/2007
«
Reply #71 on:
March 19, 2007, 10:02:00 PM »
Gee,it is nice to be agrred with today.CAT
Logged
Live with hope,looking for justice
mrs. red
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 9318
Lively Case Discussion #591 3/19 - 3/21/2007
«
Reply #72 on:
March 19, 2007, 10:02:25 PM »
Quote from: "Cat"
Hey Mrs Red,We have really missed you.I was watching same thing.Will you send me the prayer you sent me before.CAT
I will go and look Cat... I may not have it any more...
Logged
To accomplish great things we must not only act but also dream, not only plan but also believe.
Author: Anatole
sb
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 2117
Lively Case Discussion #591 3/19 - 3/21/2007
«
Reply #73 on:
March 19, 2007, 10:03:32 PM »
One thing they left out about paranoid people: They always accuse others of doing to them the exact same bad things they do themselves to others. Never fails. They have a pot-calling-the-kettle-black mentality about their own shortcomings.
I am assuming the poster at fob was accusing Beth and the family of such things.
Remember the old saying, "When you point a finger at someone else, you point four fingers back at yourself".
Logged
Natalee's family/friends still need our prayers.
Cat
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 1248
Lively Case Discussion #591 3/19 - 3/21/2007
«
Reply #74 on:
March 19, 2007, 10:03:38 PM »
So few know the power of a song.so few.it is fun to see more of the ole gang back.CAT(spartecus)
Logged
Live with hope,looking for justice
Patti
Monkey Junky Jr.
Offline
Posts: 987
Lively Case Discussion #591 3/19 - 3/21/2007
«
Reply #75 on:
March 19, 2007, 10:03:57 PM »
Quote from: "Tamikosmom"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Richard"
With all the people perceived to be in the cover-up, the implication cannot escape us that bigger stakes than three punk kids and a failed wannabe judge are at risk for someone.
The question is ... what can those stakes be?
Does anyone think Aruba would do all this just for these lowlifes?
I know a lot of people will disagree with me, but, yes, I do think Aruba would do all this just for these lowlifes.
Of course, I don't think at the beginning they thought they would be doing much. A tourist girl was killed and Paulus wanted his buddies in Law Enforcement to cover it up as a favor to him. The Aruban version of the "old boy" network went into action. It was only when Natalee's family showed up and raised holy heck that things snowballed. By then, the coverup was well under way, and it was too late to turn back.
BT, I agree.
The Island of Aruba did not anticipate a determined mother by the name of Beth Twitty. By the time that Aruba realized that this amazing woman was not about to be silenced until her quest for answers regarding her precious daughter were answered ...
it was too late to turn back
. It was no longer about covering up for Paulus and Joran ... attemting to distance them from being implicated in the events of that fateful morning ... it was about revealing those within the Aruban investigation who were responsible for the coverup.
Janet
That's what I think happened, too. There weren't a bunch of people
involved in the crime... only the cover up.
Richard is right to an extent:
If it had of been Deepak and Kalpoe, there probably wouldn't have been a
cover up. The one that manipulated the cover-up is the same person that
called that meeting around the pool... Paulus.
Poor Paulus, would rather have the world suffer the consequences of
having a sociopath on the loose, killing girls, than to admit that he may
have made a mistake in raising his eldest child... and he used all his
friends and associates to see that he met his objective. It wasn't for
Joran... it was for Paulus, that they did their dirty work.
AND... once certain things were done, they couldn't be undone without
all those friends and associates taking a fall. So what started out as a
favor, turned out to be a mission to cover their own a$$es. Beth really
lit the fire underneath them and it is only because of her that we're still
here talking about it. If not for her, the cover-up would have been a
success. The security guards would be in jail for a crime they didn't
commit and none would be the wiser.
Oduber would have us think that it was all because of tourism that he
played his part in the cover-up... hoping to look like a hero to his own
people; but, even, he may have been part of the original plan to cover
the crime and was only thinking of himself on June 10 and 11... making
sure that the case didn't unravel and end up right smack in his lap, as
well. Oh yeah, I forgot, he was thinking of Natalee the whole time!
Logged
Something
Bad Happened!
But Aruba says...
Joran is innocent
mrs. red
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 9318
Lively Case Discussion #591 3/19 - 3/21/2007
«
Reply #76 on:
March 19, 2007, 10:04:10 PM »
Quote from: "Bobo2"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
HI Monkeys.....
Can I admit for the first time, I am watching Dancing with the Stars??/ I am such a huge Apollo Ono fan!
don't tell Red...
I must have been under a rock but never heard of him. But wow can he dance! And a cutie too...
Dancing with the Stars is the only show I plan my schedule around - love it, love it love it!!!
I always watch the Olympics.... and one of my friends used to work for Nike... and met him... said he was unbelievebly nice.... and yes, he is very easy on the eyes!!!
Logged
To accomplish great things we must not only act but also dream, not only plan but also believe.
Author: Anatole
Angiex911dsptchr
Monkey All Star
Offline
Posts: 11005
Lively Case Discussion #591 3/19 - 3/21/2007
«
Reply #77 on:
March 19, 2007, 10:04:13 PM »
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Posted by Moonshadows at FOB:
Paranoid Personality Disorder as a pervasive distrust and suspiciousness of others such that their motives are interpreted as malevolent, such as:
* suspects, without sufficient basis, that others are exploiting, harming, or deceiving him or her;
* is preoccupied with unjustified doubts about the loyalty or trustworthiness of friends or associates;
* is reluctant to confide in others because of unwarranted fear that the information will be used maliciously against him or her;
* reads hidden demeaning or threatening meanings into benign remarks or events;
* persistently bears grudges, i.e., is unforgiving of insults , injuries, or slights perceives attacks on his or her character or reputation that are not apparent to others and is quick to react angrily or to counterattack;
Sound familiar???
Yes, Moonshadows it does. Sounds like you just described RU and FOB members to a "T"
F-O-R
R-E-A-L
Those RU-bies and FOB-Tards are all about as daft
as a noxious fart trapped in a wet suit.
I am sooooo over these friggin' mental munchkins.
Bunch of effffffin' JEHHHHHKS, the lot of them! -Ozzy Osbourne
ROFLMAO!! <Howdy Carpe>
Catching up.
Logged
BTgirl
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 9235
Lively Case Discussion #591 3/19 - 3/21/2007
«
Reply #78 on:
March 19, 2007, 10:05:35 PM »
Quote from: "sb"
One thing they left out about paranoid people: They always accuse others of doing to them the exact same bad things they do themselves to others. Never fails. They have a pot-calling-the-kettle-black mentality about their own shortcomings.
I am assuming the poster at fob was accusing Beth and the family of such things.
Remember the old saying, "When you point a finger at someone else, you point four fingers back at yourself".
I was thinking the poster at FOB was accusing us monkeys of such things.
Logged
I Stand With The Girl
Cat
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 1248
Lively Case Discussion #591 3/19 - 3/21/2007
«
Reply #79 on:
March 19, 2007, 10:05:38 PM »
ThaNKS MRS RED.HEY SB<YOU ARE SO RIGHT.MY LITTLE SPROUT WILL NOT LET ME GO TO Boston,no one to go my bail.Atticus cat
Logged
Live with hope,looking for justice
Pages:
«
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
»
Go Up
Print
Scared Monkeys Discussion Forum
>
Natalee Holloway
>
LCD Archive
> Topic:
Lively Case Discussion #591 3/19 - 3/21/2007
« previous
next »
Jump to:
Please select a destination:
-----------------------------
FORUM RULES
-----------------------------
=> Forum Rules and Tips
-----------------------------
Polls, Polls and more Polls
-----------------------------
=> Missing Persons Polls
=> Current Events/News Polls
=> Crime and Trial Polls
=> Just For Fun Polls
-----------------------------
Missing Persons - High Profile
-----------------------------
=> Missing Persons High Profile
===> Dylan Redwine, 13yrs old, last seen 11/19/12, Vallecito, CO
===> Kyron Horman - Portland Oregon
===> Caylee Marie Anthony - Florida (BODY FOUND)
=====> Caylee's Law - by State
=======> Caylee's Law - text
=======> ALABAMA
=======> ALASKA
=======> ARIZONA
=======> ARKANSAS
=======> CALIFORNIA
=======> COLORADO
=======> CONNECTICUT
=======> DELAWARE
=======> DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
=======> FLORIDA
=======> GEORGIA
=======> HAWAII
=======> IDAHO
=======> ILLINOIS
=======> INDIANA
=======> IOWA
=======> KANSAS
=======> KENTUCKY
=======> LOUISIANA
=======> MAINE
=======> MARYLAND
=======> MASSACHUSETTS
=======> MICHIGAN
=======> MINNESOTA
=======> MISSISSIPPI
=======> MISSOURI
=======> MONTANA
=======> NEBRASKA
=======> NEVADA
=======> NEW HAMPSHIRE
=======> NEW JERSEY
=======> NEW MEXICO
=======> NEW YORK
=======> NORTH CAROLINA
=======> NORTH DAKOTA
=======> OHIO
=======> OKLAHOMA
=======> OREGON
=======> PENNSYLVANIA
=======> PUERTO RICO
=======> RHODE ISLAND
=======> SOUTH CAROLINA
=======> SOUTH DAKOTA
=======> TENNESSEE
=======> TEXAS
=======> UTAH
=======> VERMONT
=======> VIRGINIA
=======> WASHINGTON
=======> WEST VIRGINIA
=======> WISCONSIN
=======> WYOMING
=====> Caylee Marie Anthony Murder Trial Archives
===> Sierra Lamar, 15yrs old, Morgan Hill, CA Missing Since March 16, 2012
===> JO ANN (JODIE) BAIN AND 3 DAUGHTERS MISSING 4/27/2012(2 murdered 2 safe)
===> Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6 yrs old missing 4/21/12 Tucson, AZ (Body Found)
===> Jennifer Kesse - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Susan Powell 28yrs old, missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
===> Michelle Loree Parker, Last Seen 11/17/11, Orlando, FL
===> Celina Cass, 11yrs old missing 7/25/11 New Hampshire
===> Aliayah Lunsford, 3yrs old, Weston, West VA, missing since 9/24/2011
===> Lisa Irwin, 10mo old missing since 10/4/2011 KC, MO
===> Robyn Gardner missing in Aruba August 2, 2011
=> Missing Persons - High Profile - Archives
-----------------------------
Virginia Area Missing and Murdered - possible connections
-----------------------------
=> Morgan Dana Harrington, 20yrs missing VA Tech 10/17/09(BODY FOUND)
=> Hannah Elizabeth Graham missing since 9/13/14 Charlottesville, VA
=> Alexis Murphy, missing since 8/3/13 Charlottesville, VA
=> Samantha Ann Clarke 19yrs. old Orange Va. Last seen 09/13/10
=> Dashad Sage Smith missing since 11/20/12 Charlottesville, VA
=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
-----------------------------
High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
-----------------------------
=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
-----------------------------
Missing, Exploited and True Crime
-----------------------------
=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
-----------------------------
Natalee Holloway
-----------------------------
=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
-----------------------------
Current Events and Musings
-----------------------------
=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
-----------------------------
The Monkey Lounge
-----------------------------
=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
-----------------------------
Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
-----------------------------
=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
-----------------------------
General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
-----------------------------
=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
Loading...