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Topic: Zahra Clare Baker #5 10/28/10 - 11/4/10 (Read 175210 times)
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Itaryl Moosee
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Re: Zahra Clare Baker #5 10/28/10 -
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November 02, 2010, 10:45:30 PM »
Quote from: pink angel on November 02, 2010, 08:08:54 PM
Letter 2 (yellow paper) transcribed.......
Hi Damien,
Sorry its took me so long to get back to you, but I had to wait until my lawyers put a lil money in my account. Thanks for your moral support. I need it although I’m not sure I deserve it at this point. As you probably know my family has turned pretty much against me and everyone is telling so many lies. Yeah I had my lawyers shut my myspace down cause of the bad publicity but once I am out I will redo it. My birthday is
6-6-68
so people was reading too much into that an my opening song living dead girl thing is I have had that myspace before I met Adam or Zahra. I am not sure how it or my face book got opened they was both marked private, but the cops can do whatever they want. 98% of the media stuff is lies that’s why everyone wants me dead. But I have 2 of the best lawyers in the country and my own private investigator.
I am 42
, been told I don’t look my age even though my picture they are using on TV. Sucks If you have read my myspace you know quite a bit about me, but normally my hair is black and red and I have lost way too much weight. I never knew I was to look and act like everyone else in this stupid world. I don’t wanna be normal I have tried.
.......
(truncated)
........
well I guess I have said enough. Hope to hear back from you soon!
Dark Hearts,
Elesa Baker
Well, I can't say if she's told the truth on those letters, but she says there that she was born in 6-6-68? If that is so, then she is NOT 42 as she says, she is...44.
Another thing, what's with the Dark Hearts? I'm not following this 100%, so I may have missed this.
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Re: Zahra Clare Baker #5 10/28/10 -
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Quote from: Brandi on November 02, 2010, 10:02:53 PM
Quote from: 4 Donks on November 02, 2010, 09:46:03 PM
Quote from: Monkey King on November 02, 2010, 09:41:16 PM
Quote from: sassifrass on November 02, 2010, 09:24:05 PM
Quote from: Northern Rose on November 02, 2010, 08:11:30 PM
Is this Ma Baker and Adam's younger brother?
Also Adam is driving around with a find Zahara poster.
To the monkey that was looking for the footage of the backyard
, at the beginning of this video is that footage and you can clearly see where the dog house is.
http://www.wbtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=13297637
I don't understand how he is allowed back in that house. I'm sure he had a police escort but come on... what if something was overlooked. Then you have ma Baker and little Baker in there also.
Hey Sassi!!!
Has anyone noticed if the police tape has been removed?
I'm wondering if the house has been released.
I'm wondering where AB got the truck he's driving.
I wonder the same.
Anyone know if AB is still employed by the tree service. Maybe it's a company truck.
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Re: Zahra Clare Baker #5 10/28/10 -
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Entire letters - I have adjusted the brightness and contrast to hopefully make them easier to read:
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Re: Zahra Clare Baker #5 10/28/10 -
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November 02, 2010, 10:57:28 PM »
I am so sick of these innocent children getting killed by their parent(s). Abuse is a crime therefore should be reported to police and investigated by them. DSS should only become involved to offer services to the child eg: medical treatment,psychological councelling ,placement etc. Domestic violence is a crime investigated by police not DSS and adults have a lot more options than a child.
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Re: Zahra Clare Baker #5 10/28/10 -
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November 02, 2010, 10:59:46 PM »
Quote from: pink angel on November 02, 2010, 07:20:08 PM
......
(truncated)
......
I mean I never thought it would be this way
. My lawyers get death threats every day to. This is so crazy.
I just wonder if Zahra hadn’t survived Cancer and been from Australia if it would truly be like this. [/color]There are so many missing kids, but Zahra isn’t missing the cops know where she is and what he has done. If I hadn’t admitted to that stupid note I be out in 3 weeks but no they kept pushing an he did that too. Anyway how you spending Halloween? Have fun for me please. Its my favorite holiday an I hate missing it. No fair. Well I’ve said enough. I hope you write back soon and please send some pictures. I will talk to you soon I hope.
Dark Love Always,
Elesa
Be part of the freak show!
Your in my dark heart…
“Some girls wanna be princess’s when they grow up. I want to be a vampire!!!”
Goth’s Rule
Vamp’s Rule!
**Also a doodle of a candelabra and a spider**
Thanks Pink Angel for such a nice work at transcribing.
My two green quotes... she never expected "it" this way.
Which way, Elesa?
It wasn't supposed to be "this way."
How was it supposed to be?
I am guessing she expected to get away with it.
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Re: Zahra Clare Baker #5 10/28/10 -
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November 02, 2010, 11:00:48 PM »
Quote from: Itaryl Moosee on November 02, 2010, 10:45:30 PM
Quote from: pink angel on November 02, 2010, 08:08:54 PM
Letter 2 (yellow paper) transcribed.......
Hi Damien,
Sorry its took me so long to get back to you, but I had to wait until my lawyers put a lil money in my account. Thanks for your moral support. I need it although I’m not sure I deserve it at this point. As you probably know my family has turned pretty much against me and everyone is telling so many lies. Yeah I had my lawyers shut my myspace down cause of the bad publicity but once I am out I will redo it. My birthday is
6-6-68
so people was reading too much into that an my opening song living dead girl thing is I have had that myspace before I met Adam or Zahra. I am not sure how it or my face book got opened they was both marked private, but the cops can do whatever they want. 98% of the media stuff is lies that’s why everyone wants me dead. But I have 2 of the best lawyers in the country and my own private investigator.
I am 42
, been told I don’t look my age even though my picture they are using on TV. Sucks If you have read my myspace you know quite a bit about me, but normally my hair is black and red and I have lost way too much weight. I never knew I was to look and act like everyone else in this stupid world. I don’t wanna be normal I have tried.
.......
(truncated)
........
well I guess I have said enough. Hope to hear back from you soon!
Dark Hearts,
Elesa Baker
Well, I can't say if she's told the truth on those letters, but she says there that she was
born in 6-6-68? If that is so, then she is NOT 42 as she says, she is...44.
Another thing, what's with the Dark Hearts? I'm not following this 100%, so I may have missed this.
BBM...
Ummm, 2010-1968=42...
She wrote on her letters, "you're part of my dark heart"
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Re: Zahra Clare Baker #5 10/28/10 -
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November 02, 2010, 11:02:22 PM »
Elisa Baker's alleged jailhouse letters say Zahra not missing
NEWTON, N.C. (WBTV) - WBTV has discovered letters allegedly written by Elisa Baker from her Catawba County jail cell.
In the handwritten letters, Baker discusses everything from Halloween being her favorite holiday to pinning the disappearance of her stepdaughter, Zahra, on her husband, Adam Baker.
"He knows what happened to Zahra and yet I'm the one in here at least for now," Baker writes in the letters that also have spiders drawn on them and phrases like "Vamps Rule!" and "Be part of the freak show!"
The owners of a website, Serialkillersink.net, say they reached out to Elisa Baker and started writing to her. The site has interviews and letters from some of the country's most notorious serial killers.
One of the owners, Jessika Gein, told WBTV by phone Tuesday night her husband used a pen name when he wrote to Baker. "We don't doubt the authenticity of it," said Gein regarding the letters.
But some of what Baker allegedly writes is disturbing when she talks about what happened to the little girl who's been missing for nearly a month. She again blames her husband, Adam, writing,"we really didn't kill her but what he did after the fact is kinda horrifying." She goes on to say that she is afraid of her husband.
In another letter she writes, "Zahra isn't missing. The cops know where she is and what he has done. That's right what he has done."
The letters stop short of saying where Zahra is or what happened to her.
When Gein was asked how they know the letters are authentic she said, "if we write to that person and we get something back and it's stamped by the prison or the jail, the envelope, then we pretty much know it's legit."
Gein went on to say
the police know about the letters
.
"They said that they have copies of all the letters that are coming and outgoing and that they know they're legit letters,"
she said. "So they don't doubt it and neither do we."
Police told WBTV it's possible the letters are real, but that they don't have them.
WBTV contacted Elisa Baker's attorneys but they have not returned our calls.
http://www.wbtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=13433475
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Re: Zahra Clare Baker #5 10/28/10 -
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November 02, 2010, 11:03:12 PM »
The letters are sick, just sick.
Apparently EB took a note from Casey Anthony and thought writing letters would be a GOOD idea. Lord.
And apparently the real name of the guy who received them is Eric Gein. I so keep seeing Ed Gein, the serial killer, instead. I wonder if they are related.
Love the alias, Damien, though. I'm just waiting for Satan to make an appearance. It's going to happen.
Jeebus. Like this case couldn't get any creepier and crazier.
Keep writing, EB, you'll be always be a celebrity in your own tiny, insane mind!
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November 02, 2010, 11:03:42 PM »
Quote from: Northern Rose on November 02, 2010, 11:02:22 PM
Elisa Baker's alleged jailhouse letters say Zahra not missing
NEWTON, N.C. (WBTV) - WBTV has discovered letters allegedly written by Elisa Baker from her Catawba County jail cell.
In the handwritten letters, Baker discusses everything from Halloween being her favorite holiday to pinning the disappearance of her stepdaughter, Zahra, on her husband, Adam Baker.
"He knows what happened to Zahra and yet I'm the one in here at least for now," Baker writes in the letters that also have spiders drawn on them and phrases like "Vamps Rule!" and "Be part of the freak show!"
The owners of a website, Serialkillersink.net, say they reached out to Elisa Baker and started writing to her. The site has interviews and letters from some of the country's most notorious serial killers.
One of the owners, Jessika Gein, told WBTV by phone Tuesday night her husband used a pen name when he wrote to Baker. "We don't doubt the authenticity of it," said Gein regarding the letters.
But some of what Baker allegedly writes is disturbing when she talks about what happened to the little girl who's been missing for nearly a month. She again blames her husband, Adam, writing,"we really didn't kill her but what he did after the fact is kinda horrifying." She goes on to say that she is afraid of her husband.
In another letter she writes, "Zahra isn't missing. The cops know where she is and what he has done. That's right what he has done."
The letters stop short of saying where Zahra is or what happened to her.
When Gein was asked how they know the letters are authentic she said, "if we write to that person and we get something back and it's stamped by the prison or the jail, the envelope, then we pretty much know it's legit."
Gein went on to say
the police know about the letters
.
"They said that they have copies of all the letters that are coming and outgoing and that they know they're legit letters,"
she said. "So they don't doubt it and neither do we."
Police told WBTV it's possible the letters are real, but that they don't have them.
WBTV contacted Elisa Baker's attorneys but they have not returned our calls.
http://www.wbtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=13433475
Before the website owner blacked out the return address on the envelopes, it was the address of the jail.
I have no doubt that these letters are real. IMO
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Re: Zahra Clare Baker #5 10/28/10 -
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Best links for the letters
Read the letters (note: these are large image files)
Letter 1:
Page 1
http://www.wbtv.com/global/link.asp?l=463993
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http://www.wbtv.com/global/link.asp?l=463994
Page 3
http://www.wbtv.com/global/link.asp?l=463995
Letter 2:
Page 1
http://www.wbtv.com/global/link.asp?l=463996
Page 2
http://www.wbtv.com/global/link.asp?l=463997
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Quote from: sassifrass on November 02, 2010, 09:59:12 PM
Hi Wyks!
I see you up there!
I sure would love to hear your thoughts on this case.
Hey Sass!
Finally catching up with the last couple of weeks of posting in here. Been offline for a move, yada yada, but am backkkkkk. lol
This case is mind-boggling. So many different things, it's hard to get a take on just what might have happened and/or what LE might be thinking etc.
In one of the news articles upthread, it was mentioned that the drywall was pink-tinged and grey. Evidence of an attempted cleanup? As other monkeys have said, am thinking the cupboards and stuff in the kitchen were taken down to get to the wall behind. Which by looking at the pics was likely the bathroom. Maybe the tub area? And this is a horrid thought (sorry).... what if she was dismembered in the tub before being taken to the um chipper? Oh ugh.
Am hoping that LE has a very close eye on Mr. Baker, so they know exactly where he is at all times. IMO, he ought to be sitting in jail as well, not out running around on bond, likely enjoying a lil visit with his Aussie family. With what this case 'seems to be' adding up to, there doesn't seem to be a chance in the world he isn't fully involved in whatever happened with Zahra. And not just 'after the fact' but before as well. Seems to me he had to have known the kind of treatment that Zahra was receiving at the hands of her stepmonster, and either allowed it or did nothing to stop it. Zahra's death may have come at the hands of the stepmonster, but am thinking that she had much help afterward in covering things up and etc.
Hard to believe that humans could be so evil.
When NG calls the stepmonster 'stepmommie' I want to SCREAM!! She was never any type of 'mommie' to that precious child.
(sorry, just had to vent that).
Am hoping they have taken the dogs and re-homed them with loving caregivers.
What's your take on this case, Sass?
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Quote from: emeraldsky on November 02, 2010, 11:03:12 PM
The letters are sick, just sick.
Apparently EB took a note from Casey Anthony and thought writing letters would be a GOOD idea. Lord.
And apparently the real name of the guy who received them is Eric Gein. I so keep seeing Ed Gein, the serial killer, instead. I wonder if they are related.
Love the alias, Damien, though. I'm just waiting for Satan to make an appearance. It's going to happen.
Jeebus. Like this case couldn't get any creepier and crazier.
Keep writing, EB, you'll be always be a celebrity in your own tiny, insane mind!
Eric Gein is a pseudo name he uses for running the website.
Explained here:
http://www.folioweekly.com/documents/main_081710_000.pdf
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Quote from: Monkey King on November 02, 2010, 10:02:35 PM
The house has probably been released to the owner.
I wonder if the reason the door is missing because they located more evidence on the door when they were removing Zahra.
I'm back to the woodchipper and feeding Zahra to the dogs- if I were to believe what EB indicates in her letter.
Sounds discusting and horrific and unimaginable. Sub-human.
Huh???? to the dogs???
Dang, I gotta go back and read those letters. Missed that inference. Ugh.
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Quote from: Nana29 on November 02, 2010, 11:00:48 PM
BBM...
Ummm, 2010-1968=42...
She wrote on her letters, "you're part of my dark heart"
Haha! Sorry, one of the many lately. I may need a break.
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Tearing the kitchen cabinets, walls, and plumbing may mean that the crime happened in the home, and stuff may have been washed down the sink or toilet.
MOO.
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November 02, 2010, 11:21:03 PM »
Quote from: pink angel on November 02, 2010, 11:07:35 PM
Quote from: emeraldsky on November 02, 2010, 11:03:12 PM
The letters are sick, just sick.
Apparently EB took a note from Casey Anthony and thought writing letters would be a GOOD idea. Lord.
And apparently the real name of the guy who received them is Eric Gein. I so keep seeing Ed Gein, the serial killer, instead. I wonder if they are related.
Love the alias, Damien, though. I'm just waiting for Satan to make an appearance. It's going to happen.
Jeebus. Like this case couldn't get any creepier and crazier.
Keep writing, EB, you'll be always be a celebrity in your own tiny, insane mind!
Eric Gein is a pseudo name he uses for running the website.
Explained here:
http://www.folioweekly.com/documents/main_081710_000.pdf
Ah, I didn't know that. Still creepy, though.
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I am sure LE is watching AB very close. Hopefully with tracking devices on the vehicle and phones, like what was done with the Anthony's. Don't they say criminals always go back to the scene of a crime?(or maybe the burial site)
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I can't say for sure but I thought I read very early in the case that one of the dogs bit an officer and they were both very aggressive and that they were put to sleep. I do not have the link but will look tomorrow and see if I can find the story.
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Quote from: Wyks on November 02, 2010, 11:11:58 PM
Quote from: Monkey King on November 02, 2010, 10:02:35 PM
The house has probably been released to the owner.
I wonder if the reason the door is missing because they located more evidence on the door when they were removing Zahra.
I'm back to the woodchipper and feeding Zahra to the dogs- if I were to believe what EB indicates in her letter.
Sounds discusting and horrific and unimaginable. Sub-human.
Huh???? to the dogs???
Dang, I gotta go back and read those letters. Missed that inference. Ugh.
I don't believe the feeding to the dogs theory. Pitties are a medium size dog and one was still a puppy. Zahra weighed 55 lbs and I have 3 giant breed dogs that wouldn't be able to consume that much in the time line that is proposed.
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Quote from: Itaryl Moosee on November 02, 2010, 11:17:22 PM
Tearing the kitchen cabinets, walls, and plumbing may mean that the crime happened in the home, and stuff may have been washed down the sink or toilet.
MOO.
At this point I truly believe that something happened to Zahra in/on her bed, that she was dismembered in the tub and put into the woodchipper.
Isn't there supposed to be a press conference tomorrow?
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===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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